So..um..Twilight fans are trying to start a new religion. - Page 6

ShadowGUN · #**101** 11-03-2009, 08:45 AM

If Hideo Kojima and the manga creator of Evangelion like it, the series can't be that bad, can it

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**MonkeyFunk** · #**102** 11-03-2009, 09:33 AM

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Actually I hate everything mainstream because the mainstream just sucks. It's just so dumb and boring and shines light on what appears to be pure mediocrity in comparison to some amazingly talented work that never gets any credibility whatsoever.

Er... but your profile says

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Superjail!, South Park, Billy and Mandy, Flapjack, Higurashi, Elfen Lied, FLCL, Ren and Stimpy, Invader ZIM, Coraline, Wall-E, etc.

which baffles me greatly :S

**GWOtaku** · #**103** 11-03-2009, 09:51 AM

Twilight hate makes me laugh. It seems no better than Twilight fanaticism itself. The majority of the haters are probably not the intended audience for the book. So what the hell are they expecting? How many of them have actually read all of the books? I haven't, I know it's not for me. I am not a teenager. I'm a guy. I'm not very enthralled by vampires. So I could join the anti-Twilight chorus I suppose, but what would that actually mean? Nothing.

So I read other books and I don't say much of anything about it. Just read the genres you like and let the free market do its thing.

**Jave** · #**104** 11-03-2009, 01:44 PM

Interesting bit of trivia: The day before the Twilight DVD came out, tons of Twilight fans received death threats in their cell phones.

Even if this was intended as a joke, you can't say that getting a text message that says "Buy this DVD and you will be killed" is something to be taken lightly.

SSJ Jake · #**105** 11-03-2009, 04:46 PM

I agree with most others on the thread at hand. I don't like the way Twilight sounds either- I never actually read the books or seen the movies so I can't really judge, though the idea of Sun Sparkling Vampires sounds incredibly stupid to me- but it's best to ignore some fad you don't like rather than make a giant deal about it.

**MonkeyFunk** · #**106** 11-03-2009, 04:53 PM

I'm probably one of about three people here who's actually read the novel, and to be honest I thought the sparkling stuff was handled pretty well. It's explained as a means to lure in victims (akin to an angler fish's light) and provided a neat new reason for vampires to stay in the dark.

The book had its fair share of flaws, sure, but I don't think the sparkling was one of them.

Yash · #**107** 11-03-2009, 05:51 PM

What's nice about college compared to high school is that while Twilight fans still exist, they are also tech college students who happen to be Twilight fans and don't find they need to obsess over it every five seconds.

And I've read (and hated) the first novel, so my criticism is valid.

Urusei Yatsura · #**108** 11-03-2009, 06:55 PM

I hope no one believes they actually made a religion over this, it's just for fun... (I think...?)

The books are really mediocre.

**purplehairedwonder** · #**109** 11-03-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Yash

What's nice about college compared to high school is that while Twilight fans still exist, they are also tech college students who happen to be Twilight fans and don't find they need to obsess over it every five seconds.

And I've read (and hated) the first novel, so my criticism is valid.

Or, you know, if you go to a women's college there's still plenty of Twilight love... but it's not obsessive. Our English department has a large number of fans, me included.

The anti-Twilight hatred really gets old for me. I know plenty of girls who don't like it and that's fine. But the extreme hatred from the guys really bothers me since it's not aimed at them. You don't see me hating excessively on say, Rambo. It's not aimed at me and I know it's not my thing so I avoid it. Not sure why that's so hard.

Yash · #**110** 11-03-2009, 07:10 PM

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Or, you know, if you go to a women's college there's still plenty of Twilight love... but it's not obsessive. Our English department has a large number of fans, me included.

The anti-Twilight hatred really gets old for me. I know plenty of girls who don't like it and that's fine. But the extreme hatred from the guys really bothers me since it's not aimed at them. You don't see me hating excessively on say, Rambo. It's not aimed at me and I know it's not my thing so I avoid it. Not sure why that's so hard.

It's not so much the book, which I didn't think was that good to begin with, but the constant shoving of it down my throat by obsessive fangirls who can't comprehend the idea of someone not liking their favorite book. The "Twilight phenomenon" sucks.

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Urusei Yatsura · #**111** 11-03-2009, 07:11 PM

I'm a fan of Romance, and yet I'm not a fan of this book. (Used to be, though)

The romance between Edward and Bella just isn't natural. It's obsessive, not emotional and passionate.

And New Moon was a torture to read through, it was incredibly boring. I'm not going to bash someone who likes this book, considering that lots of my friends like this book, but I just don't like it. If you like it, fine, but don't push your obsession on me.

**purplehairedwonder** · #**112** 11-03-2009, 07:14 PM

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I'm a fan of Romance, and yet I'm not a fan of this book. (Used to be, though)

The romance between Edward and Bella just isn't natural. It's obsessive, not emotional and passionate.

And New Moon was a torture to read through, it was incredibly boring. I'm not going to bash someone who likes this book, considering that lots of my friends like this book, but I just don't like it. If you like it, fine, but don't push your obsession on me.

And you're welcome to your opinion. But the problem many people have is the over-bearing negative backlash the series receives from people it's not aimed at in the first place. I have plenty of books I prefer to Twilight (which to me is just a quick, fun read when I need a leisure book to speed through), but excessive negativity will make people defensive about what they like. Not speaking to you specifically here, but I do believe turnabout is fair play: you don't want the books pushed on you? Fans of the books don't want your hatred pushed on us. Pretty simple.

GregX · #**113** 11-03-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by purplehairedwonder

Or, you know, if you go to a women's college there's still plenty of Twilight love... but it's not obsessive. Our English department has a large number of fans, me included.

The anti-Twilight hatred really gets old for me. I know plenty of girls who don't like it and that's fine. But the extreme hatred from the guys really bothers me since it's not aimed at them. You don't see me hating excessively on say, Rambo. It's not aimed at me and I know it's not my thing so I avoid it. Not sure why that's so hard.

Actually, the biggest "Twilight" critics I know are women. My friend, Amanda, even did two webcomics poking fun at it (and she got trolled over it, and at least one death threat).

http://shinga.deviantart.com/art/Hea...Sucks-85504254
http://shinga.deviantart.com/art/Hea...-Dawn-98016573

And this... (Language warning)
http://shinga.deviantart.com/journal/18722283/

BTW, I'm definitely not a hardcore hater. I just thing the above are funny, and might amuse some of you.

CartoonOverlord · #**114** 11-03-2009, 07:18 PM

Yeah, at this point I'd say the haters have become what they've been claiming to be against, a bunch of raving loonies. It's not like Stephanie Meyer murdered their parents or the fans wear sparkly Snuggies and like going door-to-door and subjugating people to thier will.

I have no interest in reading the books for many reasons, so I just do the simplest thing and just ignore it. I like ribbing at it once in a while, but not anything like this overwhelming bile some people have towards it. I say just get over yourself and move on.

**Antiyonder** · #**115** 11-03-2009, 07:27 PM

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It's not so much the book, which I didn't think was that good to begin with, but the constant shoving of it down my throat by obsessive fangirls who can't comprehend the idea of someone not liking their favorite book.

And that understandable, but constantly focusing negative attention on the obsessive fans is just as unhealthy as their interest in twilight.

Not saying you are obsessive, btw, but your comment was quoted to provide the basis for my post.

Yash · #**116** 11-03-2009, 10:13 PM

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And that understandable, but constantly focusing negative attention on the obsessive fans is just as unhealthy as their interest in twilight.

Not saying you are obsessive, btw, but your comment was quoted to provide the basis for my post.

Well, that combined with the fact that I just didn't like the book. It's funny, I don't really care that much, I come off as being a lot more passionate about things on the internet than I do in reality.

**Light Lucario** · #**117** 11-04-2009, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jave

Interesting bit of trivia: The day before the Twilight DVD came out, tons of Twilight fans received death threats in their cell phones.

Even if this was intended as a joke, you can't say that getting a text message that says "Buy this DVD and you will be killed" is something to be taken lightly.

Wow. That's just sad. Doing something like that takes the hatred towards the fans way too far. I don't have any interest in reading the books, but I wouldn't treat those who do like it with such disrespect. There was actually an article in my college's newspaper comparing the Twilight and True Blood
series. While I haven't read either series, I have to admit that the argument for True Blood was stronger than for Twilight. Of course, that reflects more of the skills of the writer of the article than of the novels themselves, but I thought that it was still pretty interesting.

Oddly enough, I never knew that True Blood, the TV series, was based off a series a books, just like I never heard of Twilight before the movie came out. Despite being a major bookworm, I really don't seem to know a lot of the mainstream/popular series.

EinBebop · #**118** 11-04-2009, 12:43 AM

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Oddly enough, I never knew that True Blood, the TV series, was based off a series a books, just like I never heard of Twilight before the movie came out. Despite being a major bookworm, I really don't seem to know a lot of the mainstream/popular series.

The awesome book series "A Game of Thrones" just began shooting next week for HBO.

Rho · #**119** 11-04-2009, 02:09 AM

Sounds more like gang members just threatening them for fun than an actual hatred for the fans. Dunno.

What gets me about the obsessive fans is that they will actually state that they want "a guy like Edward Cullen" and then when asked if they'd think it was romantic if some old man in the body of a teenager was stalking them and watching them sleep, they say they'd call the cops and hate the person.
"But.. It would be Edward!"

True, while not all of the alleged assaults on non-fans might be true, I'm sure at least some of them are, and I can confirm I've had an instance of that after I just rolled my eyes after seeing someone wearing a Twilight t-shirt.

If this stuff about Robert Pattinson actually disliking Twilight and thinking Meyer is insane is true... I have to say I respect the man a bit more.
I think a restaurant is going too far. Some promotional cereal or something, eh, I'd walk past it and go "oh wow", but a full-on restaurant?
I wouldn't even want a Code Lyoko or Total Drama Island restaurant, because I'd think it'd be going too far with that as well.

If the uberfans can learn to chill out and not take things too seriously, more people would probably not trash talk them all the time.

And yes, I did read the first book, and some of the third. I didn't like it. I found the plot to be bad and the majority of the characters to have little to no personality.
Also, I ended up thinking Bella's dad was her little brother or something, because Meyer portrayed him at the start of the third book as being foolish.

I'll give it this, Meyer did have somewhat of a good concept going, but she did close to everything wrong.
One of the top things: Sparkling. Vampires.
Dracula would not be amused.

Silverstar · #**120** 11-04-2009, 08:49 AM

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Meyer did have somewhat of a good concept going, but she did close to everything wrong.
One of the top things: Sparkling. Vampires.
Dracula would not be amused.

If Meyer's vampires disintegrated in sunlight, then all of the scenes would have to take place at night. Furthermore, nocturnal killer vampires wouldn't appeal to young girls, whom the books are primarily aimed at.

It's not etched in stone anywhere that all vampires have to be like Dracula. Vampires can be whatever their creators want them to be, since they're mythical creatures.