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Artimus Gigan
01-17-2004, 02:05 AM
Ya know the topic may or may not have been beaten to death, but how (if you were in control) would you make a Cowboy Bebop Season 2, character developement, plot-line, and such, entertain your fancies...or somthing.

Anime Guy
01-17-2004, 02:19 AM
And I question your mental stability because you spelled "people" wrong. Just kidding. I'd make it a look at each characters' life before Bebop. It could be one series that covers all the characters, or a few smaller series that cover each one individually.

Teo
01-17-2004, 02:35 AM
I don't think I'd like a season as much rather than a second movie or, ideally, a small set of maybe 6 OAVs. That way they could match the movie's level of animation, which was great, and insert a handful of small 40 minute or so stories into between the episodes. They could deal with deeper character development or experiment with cool adventure stories or anything in between. Maybe have one where it's just Spike, Jet, and Ein still or situations like which refer to chacter dynamics in that way. Any number of variations would be cool, but I don't think the series could gracefully pull off a full 26 new episodes and cram them as "middle episodes" into the timeline already established and essentially closed up at the end. I mean, they could do it but I think it'd dilute the cohesiveness and impact of the first season's pacing and ending. A series about backstory wouldn't be able to have all the cast together and that's half the fun of the show. More Bebop would be great though in any way they found to do it well.

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Gunnm

lostrune
01-17-2004, 05:20 AM
Well excuse me! My cyborg body is still very much experimental!
NASA and Sealab have warned me it's prone to breakdown, rust, and spontaneous meltdown. The "visitors" in Area 51 aren't exactly divulging on their elemental secrets! :mad:

ClockStomper
01-17-2004, 06:39 AM
I'd like to see what Spike and Jet did during those 3 years of partnership before the series starts.

CaptainRed
01-17-2004, 08:54 AM
Faye.

Jet's story seems to be pretty set. He used to be a cop, and now he's a cowboy. He'll continue to be a cowboy. He'll probably keep on pretty much the same as he did in the series. Faye, though, just figured out where she came from and who she was. After the end of the series is where she finds who she is.

Nevertheless, if someone wanted to throw some creativity Jet's way, I'd hardly be against seeing him star. I still think he got kinda underused and short changed in CB.

Whatever or whoever a second season/series focused on, it would need an ensemble cast. All the other stuff was cool, but the characters' interplay was the series' core.

*honks hugs and whatever else*
Cappy Red

Eddie G.
01-17-2004, 10:50 AM
I just want Ed the Series. Age Ed a little maybe by three or four years so it can be more of a stand alone series then just an extention of Bebop. Of course there would have to be atleast one episode where she has a reunion with the Bebop crew which is now Jet and Fay. As for an actual season 2 of Bebop I'm against it, Cowboy Bebop was a work of art... leave it alone.

RD!
01-17-2004, 10:58 AM
I just want Ed the Series. Age Ed a little maybe by three or four years so it can be more of a stand alone series then just an extention of Bebop. Of course there would have to be atleast one episode where she has a reunion with the Bebop crew which is now Jet and Fay. As for an actual season 2 of Bebop I'm against it, Cowboy Bebop was a work of art... leave it alone.

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Youko Recca
01-17-2004, 11:03 AM
No new Bebop....simple as that.

Behonkiss
01-17-2004, 11:19 AM
I'm with Youca. If it was brought back, it would likely experience a drop in quality(a la Big O). It would also wreck the wonderfully fitting end. Besides, the people behind it want to move on to new things.

Eddie G.
01-17-2004, 11:35 AM
con·tra·dic·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/ahd4/pronkey.html) (kntr-dkshn)
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1. The act of contradicting.
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4. Something that contains contradictory elements....cute.

I'm not realy contradicting myself, wanting a spin off is different than wanting to continue the series. Ed was a rather small character on Bebop, she was in the least episodes, recieved little character development, and with the exception of one or two episodes only showed up to act as comic relief or she looked something up on the computer to move the plot along. But in all honesty I loved her character and would like to see more of her. But I would like to see her in a show about her, aged and with different characters. Sure there would be a Bebop refrence, because that's fun. But I don't think a show about a 16 year old Ed with for the mostly new supporting cast member interfers with the Bebop legacy... too much.

Lord Dalek
01-17-2004, 12:07 PM
No new Bebop....simple as that.
At last we agree on something Recca.

RD!
01-17-2004, 12:08 PM
Cowboy Bebop was a work of art... leave it alone.

How is a spinoff any different?

Aurochs
01-17-2004, 03:31 PM
I'd do the whole thing in a completely non-linear order, think Pulp Fiction or The French New Wave or The Killing or Boogeypop Phantom. It'd be perfect. If they wanted to, they could do an episode about Spike's past and then do another episode about Ural Terpsichore and then do another episode that takes place between the first 26, and another that takes place when Ed is an adult and so on. And then pack it full of lots of homages and popular cultural references and put in a lot of cameos from reaccuring characters.

Master Moron
01-17-2004, 03:37 PM
I don't think I'd like a season as much rather than a second movie or, ideally, a small set of maybe 6 OAVs. That way they could match the movie's level of animation, which was great, and insert a handful of small 40 minute or so stories into between the episodes. They could deal with deeper character development or experiment with cool adventure stories or anything in between.
Again, I hate the idea of making new stories and inserting them in between episodes. You CAN'T have character development in these episodes. Think about it. In episode 26 the characters would have to be fully developed. If you go back and insert an episode in between episode 12 and 13 they would have to be only as developed as they were at that time. If they developed too much in that episode then later episodes wouldn't make sense. Inserting new stories into the series' timeline is just a bad idea.

If I made a new Bebop series it would start off with Ed and Ein meeting up with Samarai Andy. Eventually they would meet up with Faye, Jet, and those two people from that bounty hunter show. I don't see Ed's father having a big role in this series as he's not really that interesting. Maybe have him show up in one episode only to be killed off in that same episode.

NewLib
01-17-2004, 04:02 PM
I make a new Cowboy Bebop as a prequel, but it wouldnt contain any of the characters from the original. It be during the beginning of the rise of the space syndicates or near the time of the Earth gate crashing.

SSJPabs
01-17-2004, 04:58 PM
I agree with Blue Wolf as far as making a sequel "Cowboy Ed" but of course, not with Faye and Spike as a Bebop crew. I'd like to see Ed grown up and team with Meifa from Boogie Woogie Feng Shui, as Meifa could be a good balance to Ed's wierdness and some new characters on a ship looking totally different from the Bebop but maybe named Bebop II only as a homage. Have Faye and Jet as guest characters for 1 or 2 episodes, maybe have Faye own a casino or something.

Ein of course, would return. Or Ein II or something. I am sure he set up some Corgi Empire somewhere... maybe Ein would be bankrolling Ed?

I actually plotted a 26 episode fic for this that involved an alien race and portable gate technology but never really wrote beyond 2 episodes.

Youko Recca
01-17-2004, 05:12 PM
At last we agree on something Recca.
We agree on plenty,you're in my friggin sig :anime:

Eddie G.
01-17-2004, 05:13 PM
How is a spinoff any different?Can I ask you something did you see Tuesday's Cheers, you know the new episodes on Tuesdays at 9. Or that book with the kid and the escaped slave, you know The Adventures of Tom Sawyer II.

Cowboy Bebop ended, I liked the ending, I like the story the way it is so I want it left alone. However I really love the character of Ed, I think she should be spun off onto her own series taking place when she's like sixteen or seventeen, and have a completly new story. So I don't want the Bebop universe and the character Ed, Ein, and a few others to not be touched on or continued, however I would like the story the Cowboy Bebop not to be continued and left alone.

RTFirefly
01-17-2004, 06:25 PM
Bebop was a fascinating series, set in a fascinating universe. While I believe that Cowboy Bebop is best left alone as it was, I would like to see more of the Bebop world. A series featuring totally different characters - not even necessarily bounty hunters - could work very well if done right.

Teo
01-17-2004, 10:41 PM
Again, I hate the idea of making new stories and inserting them in between episodes. You CAN'T have character development in these episodes. Think about it. In episode 26 the characters would have to be fully developed. If you go back and insert an episode in between episode 12 and 13 they would have to be only as developed as they were at that time. If they developed too much in that episode then later episodes wouldn't make sense. Inserting new stories into the series' timeline is just a bad idea.
Hey, I'm on your side on this one. I just meant something more in line with a handful of side stories that'd give the characters some interaction time like the Movie did. It didn't push development but allowed for some cool stuff to happen in a time that would plotwise allow it. With a few well crafted stories it could be done as well as the movie--not jarring to continuity but just cool to have everyone back together. It wouldn't change the overall arc but it'd be interesting to see some of events that occurred during the course of the show that weren't told in the original 26 eps. Another 26 eps of that would probably be tedious anyway. Just a few extras, maybe even just another movie.

And I might be a minority here, but I don't particularly want alternate universes and especially flashback episodes. The characters had their pasts enough revealed in the series and I'd rather see them interacting as they did there, not as their different past selves. I suppose something like that could turn out well, but it's less interesting to me.

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Gunnm

wrenchien
01-17-2004, 11:57 PM
it would be nice to see if those stranded on mars due to funds lacking, survived, and to find out whatever happened to ed. though i'm pretty sure at the end, the battle killed both ,and neither's story will continue onward.

Jimmy Kustes
01-18-2004, 12:02 AM
My half-life is 100 years, my metal stablity is fine.

I crack myself up.

Lord Dalek
01-18-2004, 12:23 AM
My half-life is 100 years, my metal stablity is fine.

I crack myself up.
I'm not sure about my metal stability, think my vallence shell is short a couple of electrons. But I still feel that a Bebop sequel is long dead and should be dropped. Just like I did two years ago when this came up last.

bassist
01-18-2004, 01:25 AM
I crack myself up.As long as you can put a stitch in your sides and repair the cracks after.

Pimmelmann
01-18-2004, 08:15 PM
Ya know the topic may or may not have been beaten to death, but how (if you were in control) would you make a Cowboy Bebop Season 2, character developement, plot-line, and such, entertain your fancies...or somthing.
If I were really in control, I'd choose not to make it. But failing that, I'd try and tell stories about different people in the same vein. The feel of the show is more important than the events it depicts which are specific to the lives of those particular characters.

Beat
01-18-2004, 08:39 PM
My mental stability is being questioned? Is it the cereal?


http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Beachcomber/1337_Cereal2.jpg

wrenchien
01-18-2004, 10:27 PM
My mental stability is being questioned? Is it the cereal?


http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Beachcomber/1337_Cereal2.jpg

no, it's not the cereal. for sure.

btw, i bet they make 'roxxors' cereal in the bargain bag cereal shelf... not as expensive, but man, it tastes just as good, without all the hyped funny cartoon viruses on the back saying 'eat this or lose your hd, buddy'.

G. Wen
01-19-2004, 02:16 AM
I don't want a 2nd season of CB, instead I would make another movie. I want Ed as the main character (she'll be in her 20's). On one of her hacking adventures, Ed discovers something about the Syndicate. Through a series of events, she eventually teams up w/ Jet and Faye and they try to bring down the Syndicate. There will be no flashback sequences in the story, everything will be revealed through clues and situations. Ed will discover exactly what happened between Spike, Vicious, and Julia. Jet and Faye will have to come to terms with their feelings about Spike.

Artimus Gigan
01-19-2004, 04:21 AM
no, it's not the cereal. for sure.

btw, i bet they make 'roxxors' cereal in the bargain bag cereal shelf... not as expensive, but man, it tastes just as good, without all the hyped funny cartoon viruses on the back saying 'eat this or lose your hd, buddy'.nah R0ffl35 is where it's at

they taste like money