View Full Version : Should Jim Samples Leave Cartoon Network?
cruiserbruiser
12-30-2003, 11:13 AM
Should he Leave the Cartoon Network
B.W.H.
12-30-2003, 12:13 PM
Yes. Seriously this guy has taken almost all classic cartoons of the network,and filled their time slots with repeats of Cartoon Cartoons[I do love them but after 500th time who've seen to Love A Pie it's time for something different.]
Mugen
12-30-2003, 12:33 PM
Isn't he gone by the end of the year? I remember reading somewhere that CN hired this guy named Bob Higgins to take over the scheduling department.
WingZombie38
12-30-2003, 10:48 PM
I'm outta the loop. Would anyone mind explaining who this guy is and what he has done? Although hearing he's responsible for taking out all those toons answers a lot. I just want to know more before I vote. Also, is anything known about the replacement guy an the things he's done?
Pilmedium
12-30-2003, 10:53 PM
I'm outta the loop. Would anyone mind explaining who this guy is and what he has done? Although hearing he's responsible for taking out all those toons answers a lot. I just want to know more before I vote. Also, is anything known about the replacement guy an the things he's done?
I am with you on being clueless here, but it would impossible for me to think that the person who was responsible for replacing classic cartoons with excessive repeats of cartoon cartoons should stay.
Nin-Nin69
12-30-2003, 11:38 PM
YES.
Sketch
12-30-2003, 11:43 PM
When will Cartoon Network realize that I'm the solution to their bad schedules? :p
Nin-Nin69
12-31-2003, 01:53 AM
That would be the day if they hired you. :anime:
ZumbidoMetal
12-31-2003, 06:10 AM
Bob Higgins has been hired as Senior VP of Programming and Development and he will be programming the schedules for both Cartoon Network and Boomerang as well as managing development of new programming and will be reponsible for acquiring other programs etc. Only thing he won't be doing is Adult Swim which of course is Lazzo's job.
Jim Samples is Executive VP and General Manager meaning Higgins will be working under him.
Pilmedium
12-31-2003, 11:06 PM
Bob Higgins has been hired as Senior VP of Programming and Development and he will be programming the schedules for both Cartoon Network and Boomerang as well as managing development of new programming and will be reponsible for acquiring other programs etc. Only thing he won't be doing is Adult Swim which of course is Lazzo's job.
Jim Samples is Executive VP and General Manager meaning Higgins will be working under him.
In other words, any schedule changes proposed by Higgins will need approval by Samples. That means that there is not a change in power at all, because it is unlikely that someone who was already in charge would even take advice from a corporate inferior.
rmarti3926
01-01-2004, 04:08 PM
He sould be gone. Classic cartoons are one of the reasons why I tuned in to Cartoon Network. Now it's nothing more than Dragonball Z, Edd, Edd & Eddy, Pokemon, and all kinds of other crap! (Save for Duck Dodgers, Totally Spies and KND)
Chad Bonin
01-01-2004, 04:14 PM
Um... Dragonball Z's not been on for a while.
If he spurred the creation of SVES, yes.
Lord Ashram
01-02-2004, 11:45 AM
Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes!
Saotome2U
01-02-2004, 12:10 PM
Ohhhh, so it was this guy's fault for the reason all of the classic cartoons were basically drummed off CN? Heh, yes this guy should leave. It just hit me about a couple of months ago about how I miss them showing The Flintstones, Looney Tunes, etc. I can do without the REALLY bad Hanna-Barbera cartoons like the dude who looks like He-Man with the "amoeba" looking things as friends (can't remember the name, that's how bad it is), but the good HB cartoons like Tom & Jerry (though still on around 1 pm), The Flintstones, The Jetsons, Scooby Doo (WITHOUT Scrappy),etc. are all missing.
It's very strange how all the Cartoon Cartoons are on during the time periods that usually everyone is home to watch them, but during school/work hours is when they decide to show Tom & Jerry, Scooby Doo, etc....or even late-late nights on Saturday when they show Looney Tunes when everyone is asleep. That's just not right. Don't get me wrong, I do like some of the Cartoon Cartoons - most notable mention goes to Ed, Edd, & Eddy, Dexter's Laboratory, Powerpuff Girls - but I definitely miss the older cartoons, especially since Boomerang isn't widely broadcast on cable providers.
Wolfcruiser
01-03-2004, 10:09 AM
I also think this guy should leave. Too much CC's,and not enough classics. It's totally lame. (just like Totally Spies. LOL)
Nah,but seriously,I loved Cartoon Network back a couple of years ago,when shows like Top Cat would come on,and the schedule was cool and Toonami was actually watchable. But now,it just all sucks.
Killtacular
01-03-2004, 12:56 PM
In other words, any schedule changes proposed by Higgins will need approval by Samples. That means that there is not a change in power at all, because it is unlikely that someone who was already in charge would even take advice from a corporate inferior.
What do you think this is, Hollywood? Fiction businesses may work that way but not CN, or even AOL/MGMTW (the most unpredictably absurd conglomeration of all time). Mike Lazzo reported to Jim Samples when he wanted to acquisition a show, create a show, or clear a programming lineup. And Samples never rejected. The last show Lazzo got greenlighted before relocating himself to Adult Swim? The Popeye Show.
The Dork Knight
01-03-2004, 04:09 PM
Indubitably.
- The Dork Knight
nakak
01-05-2004, 12:23 AM
That guy should leave.
I wish that &%*!!-ing idiot brings back classics like "Pink Panther" and stuff.
And get rid of those crappy Cartoon Cartoons (only one I don't hate must be "Courage the Cowardly Dog")
Master Moron
01-05-2004, 02:41 AM
Why should Cartoon Network have Classic cartoons when they have Boomerang? I mean, if they made a Toonami network they wouldn't have Toonami on Cartoon Network anymore would they?
Sketch
01-05-2004, 03:08 AM
Why should Cartoon Network have Classic cartoons when they have Boomerang? I mean, if they made a Toonami network they wouldn't have Toonami on Cartoon Network anymore would they?
A couple of years ago maybe... but now they'd get rid of it and have another "action block" that would basically be SVES weekdays. Likely airing reruns of He-Man, Transformers, Teen Titans, Justice League, and Samurai Jack.
Nin-Nin69
01-05-2004, 03:57 AM
Why should Cartoon Network have Classic cartoons when they have Boomerang? I mean, if they made a Toonami network they wouldn't have Toonami on Cartoon Network anymore would they?
Not everyone has Boomerang on their Cable listings. And that is a big problem for those who don't have the choice to get Boomerang or not. So yes, classic cartoons like Flinstones, Jetsons, Popeye, Loony Tunes, Tom and Jerry, Tex Avery classics, Wacky Racers, Top Cat, Pink Panther, Yogi Bear, Thundercats, and Pirates of Dark Water should still be on CN. Get rid of everything Scooby Doo related after Scooby Doo, Where are you? and the many Ed Edd and Eddy blocks, then you can fit those shows in.
blitzkrieg
01-05-2004, 04:31 AM
Not everyone has Boomerang on their Cable listings. And that is a big problem for those who don't have the choice to get Boomerang or not. So yes, classic cartoons like Flinstones, Jetsons, Popeye, Loony Tunes, Tom and Jerry, Tex Avery classics, Wacky Racers, Top Cat, Pink Panther, Yogi Bear, Thundercats, and Pirates of Dark Water should still be on CN. Get rid of everything Scooby Doo related after Scooby Doo, Where are you? and the many Ed Edd and Eddy blocks, then you can fit those shows in.
Then there wouldn't be a point to having Boomerang around, would there? It be like showing stuff that is on TV Land on Nick at Nite just because not everyone has TV Land. There was a time when people didn't have Cartoon Network either. If people really want to get the channels then write to your cable companies and the such.
For the most part CN is no longer about classic cartoons. Really it hasn't been in a while. Just because you don't like what they show doesn't mean they should get rid of stuff. If they got rid of the stuff you think they should then a lot of people would get upset. More than likely more people would get upset if they showed Ed, Edd, and Eddy than people would be happy if they started showing Josie and the Pussycats.
They who bring the ratings control the broadcasts. Simple rule of television.
ZumbidoMetal
01-05-2004, 08:29 AM
To be honest. I don't believe some things like The Flintstones and maybe even The Smurfs should have been moved exclusive to Boomerang. When Lazzo was programming he made room for them. While you can argue The Smurfs, The Flintstones is a property that could still be utilized by the network maybe not to the point of it's fellow H-Ber Scooby Doo but kids are still aware of them and realy they should still be on CN.
CN can sell advertisers on hours of Scooby Doo but can't get any interest in The Flintstones?
I mean how many times can these kids watch The Mystery Inc. Gang run into The Addams Family,The 3 Stooges,Harlem Globetrotters and Sandy Duncan? (speaking of The New Scooby Doo Movies) I mean are the ratings realy that good that?
Oh and I LIKE Scooby Doo.
Boy Wonder
01-05-2004, 08:23 PM
FIRE HIM! Kids are even getting tired of this bullcrap. Craptoons should not be aired this excessively. And where is the classic cartoon programming? Late night Saturday night? WHY?!? Besides, kids would not mind seeing more Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck.
blitzkrieg
01-06-2004, 11:27 AM
I think a major reason why Scooby-Doo is still on CN is because it's still a living breathing franchise. Granted there was a recent Loony Toons movie but it did not do nearly as well as the Scooby-Doo movie and I'm sure the second Scooby-Doo movie will do big numbers too.
Also, just because you do not like something does not mean that other people share your opinions. If the older shows were doing as well in the ratings as what some of you might consider "craptoons" then they would still be on CN. On the other hand CN didn't just drop the shows which they could have, instead they gave them their own 24 hour channel which in a lot of ways resembles the CN of old. As I said before, why not support it and work to get it on more cable and satellite providers? It's no more CN fault that you don't get Boomerang than it was Turner's fault in the days when everyone didn't have CN.
Pilmedium
01-06-2004, 09:48 PM
What do you think this is, Hollywood? Fiction businesses may work that way but not CN, or even AOL/MGMTW (the most unpredictably absurd conglomeration of all time). Mike Lazzo reported to Jim Samples when he wanted to acquisition a show, create a show, or clear a programming lineup. And Samples never rejected. The last show Lazzo got greenlighted before relocating himself to Adult Swim? The Popeye Show.
It does not necessarily matter if someone has never rejected something so far, if he still has the power to do so in the future. Jim Samples is responsible for removing some shows from the schedule, or at least good time slots.
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