View Full Version : CN Premieres: February (UPD - Cyborg 009 repeats in Feb.)
Killtacular
12-24-2003, 11:40 AM
NOTE: CN is airing episodes of 009 that were previously banned on Toonami. Who knows if they'll adopt a TV-PG rating or if CN is just being nice.
"At the End of the Battle" aired during the Jan 31st marathon. "Satan of the Deep Sea" airs the week after. I don't think ANYONE knows why these episodes were banned on Toonami but I guess we don't make that decision. I can assume that "Mythos the Final Chapter" will also air, which wouldn't be until April, I think. So prepare the VCRs.
Otherwise, Cyborg 009 is merely a continuation from the marathon in Febraury. I assume they're leading up to a new season but I can't prove it, except for the fact that they have an encore at 1:30 AM and that signals to me that they really want people to watch it. Now, what does this mean? After all, Yu Yu Hakusho played on SVES but the new episodes are on Toonami. So you never know, Knux, Cyborg 009 might not be "leaving" Toonami after all.
In any case, we'll see what happens by the end of the spring.
2/6
7 PM (encores at 9:30 PM) - Ed Edd n Eddy - "Robbin' Ed/Case of Ed, A"
8 PM - SPECIAL - Private Eye Princess
2/7
7:30 PM - Transformers Energon - #2
9:00 PM (encore at 1:00 AM) - Teen Titans - "Fear Itself"
2/13
7 PM - Ed Edd n Eddy - "Hand Me Down Ed/Run for Your Ed"
8 PM - SPECIAL - Happy Valentines Day, Johnny Bravo
2/14
7:30 PM - Transformers Energon - #3
9:00 PM - Teen Titans - "Date With Destiny"
2/20
7 PM - Ed Edd n Eddy - "Stiff Upper Ed/Here's Mud In Your Ed"
8 PM - Johnny Bravo SEASON PREMIERE - "Johnny Goes Hollywood"
2/21
7:30 PM - Transformers Energon - #4
9:00 PM - Teen Titans - "Transformation"
2/27
7 PM - Ed Edd n Eddy - "Postcards from the Ed/Stuck In Ed"
8 PM - SPECIAL - Craig Bartlett's Party Wagon (90 minutes)
2/28
7:30 PM - Transformers Energon - #5
9:00 PM - Teen Titans - "Titan Rising"
Mugen
12-24-2003, 11:43 AM
I was wondering: Is Seth McFarland still doing some writing for Johnny Bravo?
Chad Bonin
12-24-2003, 11:43 AM
So that's Transformers Energon, a show that was announced for Toonami and a sequel to a show that began and ended on Toonami... and season 2 of Cyborg 009 that got it's ratings on Toonami.
I hate Cartoon Network sometimes.
Killtacular
12-24-2003, 11:45 AM
I think Cyborg 009 was moved because of its content. What can ya do. It's another of those shows that MIGHT have stayed on Toonami if Toonami were three hours long.
DianaGohan
12-24-2003, 11:47 AM
Cool. Cyborg 009 New Episodes In Febuary. I think you already posted all the other new episodes in the "January/Febuary premieres" thought Matt.
Chad Bonin
12-24-2003, 11:49 AM
Then we must question... why is Toonami not back at three hours?
Oh well, we all know that Energon will get the eventual Toonami Fridays slot and some premieres there, along with a weekday Toonami run.
Killtacular
12-24-2003, 11:56 AM
I think CN is getting good ratings out of the Totally Spies/Mandy hour and doesn't want that to change.
Chad Bonin
12-24-2003, 11:59 AM
Swap out Billy and Mandy with something like Zoids: Fuzors or TMNT and BAM! Third hour of Toonami instantly created.
Corrado
12-24-2003, 12:27 PM
New Ed, Johnny Bravo, and Teen Titans episodes are cool.
One question, are the 7:00 episodes repeated at 10:00??
Oh boy, I had a feeling that Cyborg 009 marathon meant the episodes would stay on SVES, pretty big blow for Toonami. Hopefully it's cuz of the content or else that's just not right.
Animation Otaku
12-24-2003, 01:36 PM
Cool. I'm glad 009 and Energon are on Saturday, I wouldn't be able to watch them if they came on Toonami anyways. More Eds, and new Johnny Bravo, plus TT Season 2 continues. Great.
Chad Bonin
12-24-2003, 01:50 PM
I'm questioning whether it's more of a content thing or timeslot thing. They hit the same demographics, but nobody will probably complain if the content is a little more adult near midnight than at 6.0.
I'm ticked at Energon though. We knew it would happen, but it was originally for Toonami and with Armada wrapping up on Toonami... I had hopes.
yeah, but I still have a feeling Energon will end up on Toonami in the long run.
But Cyborg 009 probably won't. I haven't seen yet a show go from Airing premieres on Toonami, then goiing to air premieres on SVES and come back.
Animation Otaku
12-24-2003, 02:45 PM
yeah, but I still have a feeling Energon will end up on Toonami in the long run.
But Cyborg 009 probably won't. I haven't seen yet a show go from Airing premieres on Toonami, then goiing to air premieres on SVES and come back.
Toonami Shows for 500: Transformers Armada is this.
LOL. really? My bad, I guess that just is another reason I see Energon coming to Toonami sometime during it's lifespan.
StrangerAtaru
12-24-2003, 03:59 PM
(starts grumbling some incomprehensible stuff)
Toonami gets some card game fad and SVES gets the next set of 009 eps? Sure it makes some sense, but it doesn't make it hurt any less.
Anime Guy
12-24-2003, 04:27 PM
Good, 009 airing once a week. For some reason, I never could get into that show. Probably the crappy line, "Mind your peas and carrots you crazy cook." God, it sounds like something out of looney tunes.
Bubblegum Girl
12-24-2003, 05:20 PM
Swap out Billy and Mandy with something like Zoids: Fuzors or TMNT and BAM! Third hour of Toonami instantly created.
I really hope that there's going to be new episodes of Billy & Mandy in 2004.
Corrado
12-24-2003, 06:07 PM
"I think CN is getting good ratings out of the Totally Spies/Mandy hour and doesn't want that to change."
That's good for fans of "Totally Spies."
DianaGohan
12-24-2003, 06:47 PM
Swap out Billy and Mandy with something like Zoids: Fuzors or TMNT and BAM! Third hour of Toonami instantly created.
Yeah, but Zoid Fuzors and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles would get lower ratings then Billy and Mandy. It (B&M) didn't get some spots on the highest ratings for November for nothing you know.
William C. Maune
12-24-2003, 08:30 PM
Dang, it looks like the Season finale of Justice League won't be airing in February after all.
Unfortunately, at the moment Toonami just has nowhere to expand to. It's a victim of the success of the hour before it. While I don't think it would happen now after all this time, I'm surprised that Totally Spies never joined the block or an expanded block.
The Drizzle
12-24-2003, 08:41 PM
A bunch of stuff I'm interested in. Y4y.
Botman
12-24-2003, 09:08 PM
While I'm glad to hear about the second season of Cyborg 009, they'll have to make some major changes to the first season before I will be able to watch it.
While I can accept the removal of filler episodes, when they skipped the final episode of the Greek Gods arc, it pretty much ruined the series for me.
With that, and the recent Big O fiasco, (which, unlike Cyborg 009, I did see on the first run) I wonder if it will be a requirement for me from now on to make sure to watch the first run before things get edited out.
Cyber E.
12-25-2003, 12:02 AM
I think the big questions on EVERYONES mind is... where is Knights of the Zodiac? =/
Infinity Blade
12-25-2003, 12:25 AM
Bleh. I could care less whether or not it's on Toonami.
Say this with me one more time class: ITS STILL ON CARTOON NETWORK AND THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE FREAKING COMMERCIAL BUMPERS.
...
Plus, we'll get 009's intro real intro and not something that just nabs random stuff from the first four episodes. Woo.
All-Star 1.5
12-25-2003, 02:04 AM
Dang, it looks like the Season finale of Justice League won't be airing in February after all.
It probably will air sometime in Febuary; it just hasn't been annouced yet.
Anime Guy
12-25-2003, 03:11 AM
Plus, we'll get 009's intro real intro and not something that just nabs random stuff from the first four episodes. Woo.
Cool. I forgot about that. The intro may just change my mind about the show. Or I might just watch the intro and run away from my tv. :D
Parallax
12-25-2003, 01:54 PM
It probably will air sometime in Febuary; it just hasn't been annouced yet.
If it isn't on the schedule...I doubt it'll air this month. They usually don't leave important things like that off the schedule.
DianaGohan
12-25-2003, 02:32 PM
Plus, we'll get 009's intro real intro and not something that just nabs random stuff from the first four episodes. Woo.
Well the Toonami intro also used scenes from the tenth episode, but I know what you mean. Also, what is the intro to Cyborg 009 anyway? I've never heard it before.
Chad Bonin
12-25-2003, 04:58 PM
It, like nearly every other intro Toonami has "cut" is available at TDA.
DianaGohan
12-25-2003, 06:41 PM
True, but my computer's either
A. On it's period.
or
B. Hates me
Because I haven't gotten any video files for awhile. That's on a diffrent computer... which I haven't been able to get to recently.
Corrado
12-25-2003, 10:06 PM
"Dang, it looks like the Season finale of Justice League won't be airing in February after all."
Believe it or not, I was actually looking forward to that.
Perhaps they'll save it for March when "Clone Wars" airs.
DianaGohan
12-25-2003, 10:13 PM
That seems logical. I can just hear them saying "On The Next March Premieres, we got a brand new episode of Justice League" and then some info on part one of "Starcrossed" or whatever.
Infinity Blade
12-25-2003, 11:32 PM
Well the Toonami intro also used scenes from the tenth episode, but I know what you mean. Also, what is the intro to Cyborg 009 anyway? I've never heard it before.
Tenth episode? Really? Huh. I just distinctly remember them using stuff up through the 0010 stuff... must've forgotten something. ^^;
DianaGohan
12-25-2003, 11:37 PM
No, they used scenes from "Operation Aurchos". I remember them using the 005's "Clear the hallway" and that girl's "Weapons are designed for killing!" in the bumpers, so I'd imagine they use something from that episode as well in the Toonami Intro.
The Lizard
12-26-2003, 01:24 PM
Are the Johnny Bravo eps all new, or old ones that never aired?
-The Lizard :D
Corrado
12-26-2003, 01:50 PM
"Are the Johnny Bravo eps all new, or old ones that never aired?"
The Valentine Day episode premiered last year, and had Molly Shannon as a guest VA among others. There were also 2 Rock references on the show, too, adding fuel to the fire that he will star in the live-action Johnny Bravo movie.
The Hollywood episode is new.
Van Partible is working on that episode so that should be good.
Animation Otaku
12-26-2003, 07:18 PM
It, like nearly every other intro Toonami has "cut" is available at TDA.
Right, and watching something on a small computer screen at random times with sound and picture that sometimes are off from each other is the same as watching it on your TV in perfect quality right before the episode starts. Oh wait, they're not the same. Those two things are completely different.
DianaGohan
12-26-2003, 07:48 PM
The Valentine Day episode premiered last year, and had Molly Shannon as a guest VA among others. There were also 2 Rock references on the show, too, adding fuel to the fire that he will star in the live-action Johnny Bravo movie.
The Hollywood episode is new.
Van Partible is working on that episode so that should be good.
I still haven't seen the Valentine's Day episode. The Hollywood ep is a full 30 minutes. I wonder if the style of the show will still be 3 Seven minute segements in each episode.
All-Star 1.5
12-27-2003, 11:58 AM
If it isn't on the schedule...I doubt it'll air this month. They usually don't leave important things like that off the schedule.
Yeah. but Zoids:Fuzors still has nine episodes to go at the end of January and it is nowhere on the schedule. And I really doubt they are saving that for March premires seeing as how SVES normally runs the shows from start to finish. But I wonder if they are saving those episodes for a Toonami run???
Judging from a Japanese Cyborg 009 guide my sister got for Christmas, it's probably a good thing 009 was moved to 10:30 on Saturday. There's some intense and questionable stuff, notably a catgirl-type cyborg who wears next to nothing, save for some pasties on her rack. Of which I do not think they could get away with on Toonami. =/
(There's a 'Kill Bill'-type arc later on, fyi)
Then again, I didn't think they could get away with saying the 'Our Father/Lord's Prayer' on Toonami, so hey! I could be wrong there. :sweat:
Sketch
12-29-2003, 04:28 AM
Yes indeed the 4pm slot is doing quite well so then... make Toonami 5pm - 8pm!
5.0 - SD Gundam
5.5 - Yu Yu Hakusho
6.0 - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
6.5 - Dragonball
7.0 - Rurouni Kenshin
7.5 - Totally Spies
Then show CC's until 9:30 or 10.
Killtacular
12-29-2003, 12:52 PM
Johnny Goes Hollywood is considered a special but you can consider it a season premiere. However it seems the actual fourth season was delayed until a later point. Possibly March to coincide with Clone Wars.
Corrado
12-29-2003, 01:47 PM
"Johnny Goes Hollywood is considered a special but you can consider it a season premiere."
That's a 1-hour special, right??
DianaGohan
12-29-2003, 02:41 PM
I think it's only a half hour special. But I'm not to sure.
dawnyoshi
12-30-2003, 03:08 PM
who cares?! It's a new Johnny Bravo! Woo!!!
and not one of those crappy episodes featuring Carl and Pops...those were terrible.
Saotome2U
01-02-2004, 11:17 AM
My first post since registering, so be gentle. :p Kiddin'...
But anyway, this new Johnny Bravo and the special, are they being done by Van Partible, and has he returned? I may be in the minority on this, but I really enjoyed the 1st season of JB. But with the introduction of Carl and Pop, and the "new" Susie (Suzy, Suzie), it just wasn't as good to me. Has Van left his creation altogether?...what happened to him anyway? Last thing I remember him doing (aside from the Johnny Christmas special) was that Scooby Doo commercial with the Mystery Machine in the background and Johnny saing "What kinda name is Van, anyway?"
HumanWormbaby
01-02-2004, 11:21 AM
My first post since registering, so be gentle. :p Kiddin'...
But anyway, this new Johnny Bravo and the special, are they being done by Van Partible, and has he returned? I may be in the minority on this, but I really enjoyed the 1st season of JB.
You're not alone. Most Johnny Bravo fans think that the show went downhill after the first season. I think Van is returning for the next season, and the new episodes won't have Pops or Carl. It'll be kinda like the Christmas and Valentines specials.
Party Wagon is finally airing next month? Whoo! *dances*
wrenchien
01-03-2004, 01:47 AM
who cares?! It's a new Johnny Bravo! Woo!!!
and not one of those crappy episodes featuring Carl and Pops...those were terrible.
you kidding me? in a way it's like johnny bravo has had 2 series when the rest of the cn-cn'er toons seem to only have had one.. and it's certainly the funnier and better animated of the two.. carl is pretty funny, especially when he fooled bravo into thinking he was dying.. a pleasant and humorous surprise and daring as well.
in fact, i was kinda hoping that they'd make new episodes of the '2nd season' bravos with the formula that non-partible director made that were teh hilarious, as opposed to those made by partible anew.. cause well, donny osmond.. ew.
bigddan11
01-05-2004, 02:51 PM
January's debuts for Zoids Fuzors ended up being wrong because they are showing repeats all January long, so I think they'll go through all 13 episodes again before starting new ones up in April. Same thing with Knights of the Zodiac. As for an extended Toonami, it's not going to happen as long as they have Friday's the way it is, and since TMNT is on at 4 PM there's no way it'd go to Toonami for now. Toonami's new schedule is this in case you didn't know:
Monday thru Thursday
5 PM- SD Gundam
5:30- Yu Yu Hakusho
6 PM- Dragonball Z
6:30- Dragonball
Friday
5 PM- SD Gundam
5:30- Inflight Movie
6:30- Dragonball GT
InvaderEd77
01-06-2004, 04:41 PM
Why is Toonami always getting the short end of the straw... Remember when Tenchi, Outlaw Star, Sailor Moon all aired on Toonami. Now what do we have.
Deformed Gundams, An AS Reject, Two shows that most fans have memorized by now, a sequel that shouldn't have been made, and crappy movies. I can't wait to see GI JOE SPYTROOPS or the DBZ movies that they aired 6 months ago. Toonami has become nothing. Cyborg 009 and Kenshin should have gone on one block and stayed there. I wouldn't have cared if they put them on SVES from the beginning, but their just airing the beginning episodes, the kid friendly episodes, and as soon as their is something offensive to anyone on this earth, it moves to late night saturday, forcing Toonami fans to give SVES ratings so Toonami can be screwed over more. It's an endless cycle that needs to stop.
I remember when SVES was going to be Saturday Night Toonami. What happened to that?
Cyber E.
01-06-2004, 04:45 PM
It is Saturday Night Toonami.
You're getting the same shows, just under different packaging. Whats the big deal? It doesn't matter how you wrap the present, its what is it that counts.
InvaderEd77
01-07-2004, 09:07 AM
Does it have Tom?
Does it have the Absolution?
It's doesn't matter that it's the same shows, it's using the brand name and making more people want to watch Toonami. Toonami is turning into the Dragonball show with educational sections. Do we really need to know how NASA works between SD Gundam and YuYu Hakusho? I don't think so.
Chad Bonin
01-07-2004, 09:16 AM
Dragonball, at various points in time, has been half of Toonami before. Sure it's not fun, but it gets ratings.
What's the big deal about the NASA interview? They tried to give us something different. Nobody's said anything bad about the New Found Glory interview...
Sure, the present counts, but I'd rather have a better-packaged present. Plus, Toonami: Super Saturdays would remind people (CN, too) that Toonami exists.
InvaderEd77
01-07-2004, 03:56 PM
Plus, Toonami: Super Saturdays would remind people (CN, too) that Toonami exists.
That's exactly what I've been trying to say! Instead of using an "80s Video Game" Theme, why not use the franchise that has already been on the channel for years.
Good news about Cyborg only having those three episodes air. Even if Toonami doesn't get some of the more mature episodes, it would still be nice for Cyborg to be (mostly) only Toonami :tom:
Parallax
01-07-2004, 09:56 PM
Do we really have to go through that whole thing again?
Botman
01-07-2004, 10:20 PM
Good news about Cyborg only having those three episodes air. Even if Toonami doesn't get some of the more mature episodes, it would still be nice for Cyborg to be (mostly) only Toonami :tom:
I would agree with you, if the episodes in question were merely filler episodes.
But we are talking about the final episode of the 2nd major story arc in the series.
Not everyone had the satisfaction of seeing the first run.
InvaderEd77
01-08-2004, 11:26 AM
Yeah I know that they are three very important episodes, and I'm not happy that they will air on SVES, but at this point I'm happy to hear that there is hope that new episodes will air on Toonami at all.
Brent Long
01-10-2004, 01:10 PM
Matt Wilson please put up the Knights of the Zodiac titles, it gets really annoying when you don't list them yet list everything else. They are new episodes after all.
The Drizzle
01-10-2004, 10:32 PM
Matt Wilson please put up the Knights of the Zodiac titles, it gets really annoying when you don't list them yet list everything else. They are new episodes after all.
He can't. The episode titles aren't on the grids.
bigddan11
01-11-2004, 12:47 AM
Yu Yu Hakusho wasn't an Adult Swim outcast. It was the #3 show on AS when it aired there. Funimation wanted it on Toonami, and that's how it got there. They wanted all their shows except for Blue Gender to be able to air on Toonami in the dubbed forms. Facts are a great thing to know before placing a comment that can be proven false.
As for SVES being renamed the Toonami Super Saturday, I wouldn't mind the renaming to Toonami Super Saturday and the addition of that crew for going to commercial breaks and removing some of the dumber advertising, but I'd still rather see a shows real beginnings than the little Toonami intro they make to go with them. The real intro's tend to be so much better and more fulfilling, and they just make more sense than some of the toonami intro's. I also would have preferred Cyborg 009 and Rurouni Kenshin to have aired on SVES from the beginning due to the content. In both cases, CN said some of the content in them was never meant to be on Toonami, and it raised the age gender that Toonami was created for to high. That's why they got shipped off to SVES' late night. That's also why Knights of the Zodiac got shipped to a later time, and that's why the .hack series has always aired at the time it airs. They feel too much content for some of the younger viewers is involved.
Anime Guy
01-11-2004, 03:58 AM
That's why they got shipped off to SVES' late night. That's also why Knights of the Zodiac got shipped to a later time, and that's why the .hack series has always aired at the time it airs. They feel too much content for some of the younger viewers is involved.As I understand, KotZ was moved from 7 to 12:30 because of poor ratings or because the crappy puns killed some of the people who watched.
Chad Bonin
01-11-2004, 12:10 PM
Yeah, Kenshin and .hack// and KotZ were moved to late-night because of bad ratings, not censorship. While it's not that Saturdays has a different demographic, they can just get away with more stuff then, with regards to Cyborg 009's lost episodes airing. If Toonami was three hours, we might see Cyborg 009 back on the block. Now, we gotta question why it's NOT three hours.
Animation Otaku
01-11-2004, 02:02 PM
You'd rather the episodes got skipped again? And that more censorship would potential take place in Season 2.
William C. Maune
01-11-2004, 02:20 PM
Nothing has been less censored yet due to being on SVES than Toonami. It may happen, but I'll believe it when I see it.
Animation Otaku
01-11-2004, 02:22 PM
Other than the episodes Toonami skipped of 009 being scheduled for SVES?
William C. Maune
01-11-2004, 02:30 PM
Matt Wilson can probably confirm this (or tell me I'm wrong if I miss read), but I believe the skipped Rurouni Kenshin episode was supposed to air on SVES also, but it was pulled from the schedule.
Like I said, it may happen, but considering the track record, I'll believe it when I see it.
Finally, I don't think we still know why those episodes were pulled. Some did air the first time, but I think some never aired in the first place. It may have had nothing to do with editing and it could have been due to lost tapes, etc. (i.e. Zoids: Chaotic Century).
Killtacular
01-11-2004, 02:36 PM
Why would they lose three tapes in the same run?
Animation Otaku
01-11-2004, 02:42 PM
IIRC(correct me if I'm wrong), Zoids CC/GF was not lost tapes, but rather tapes they had never recieved. Thus, in 10 years they have only lost 1 tape(Cowboy Funk) to my knowledge. Even if there are other instances, it's something extremely rare. For them to lose three tapes not only from the same 26 episode show, but in the exact same run of that show, would be beyond absurd.
Killtacular
01-11-2004, 02:44 PM
Not to mention it was the same run that brought many edits to other episodes of the series.
William C. Maune
01-11-2004, 02:48 PM
Besides the Cowboy Bebop tape, I believe a Freakazoid tape was also lost. However, I was just stating other possibilities, especially since I haven't really seen much on why those episodes would be cut due to editing. The episodes being cut for content reasons is certainly a possibility.
The fact remains though that until they actually air on SVES, nothing has been less cut on SVES than Toonami.
Killtacular
01-11-2004, 02:49 PM
One of the episodes is in the initial marathon whose episodes were chosen way before the February C009 episodes were scheduled, so I think it's a safe bet to air.
William C. Maune
01-11-2004, 02:53 PM
That certainly increases the chances, but I'm not ready to declare that SVES edits less than Toonami, when they haven't until now, until it is actually on the television. I'm still curious as to what in that episode required it to be cut.
Edit: Found what I was looking for before. The Kenshin episode was pulled from SVES just about two weeks before it was supposed to air.
http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?p=1093373&highlight=a+small+life#post1093373
wrenchien
01-29-2004, 01:54 AM
about time cyborg 009 was going to have the unaired eps taken care of.
plus with it coming out on dvd, that's a great deal.
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