View Full Version : SVES Zoids Fuzors Talkback: "Matt Battled R.D" (Spoilers - Posts Merged)
Killtacular
12-20-2003, 06:36 PM
Sounds like a folk song.
Corrado
12-20-2003, 06:38 PM
Hey, doesn't Diana usually do the Zoids talkbacks??
How come you're doing it this week??
DianaGohan
12-20-2003, 06:44 PM
The title of this episode made it alone the most intresting of the Zoid Fuzor fans. And then Matt talking about battling it out with Zimed for #cartoonnetwork.com supremecy. So of course, there's gonna be a Matt vrs R.D battle in this episode. And what's in the parody of this episode you may ask? Well, I'll give you some hints.
1. Except some Christmas refrences into it.
2. Special Guest Appearences!
3. Matt Wilson is gonna fight all contenders to prove his supremecy.
But of course, that's for the parody. Talk here for the regular episode. When it airs later. See ya.
Corrado
12-20-2003, 06:48 PM
I have a feeling people are going to be talking about this parody for years. (I hope I'm in it like last week.)
What time is the parody tomorrow?? I may be out of town for the afternoon and night.
EDIT: Hey, it's merged.
DianaGohan
12-20-2003, 06:58 PM
Yeah I saw that. Don't you remember our deal Matt? You allowed me to do the Zoid Fuzors talkbacks. That still holds true. Don't try and cheat me out with that, espically if you're going to post short little talkbacks like "Sounds like a folk song". That just isn't fair. And even though life isn't fair, it is in the rules for message boards to be at least partily fair, okay?
Corrado
12-20-2003, 07:04 PM
"Sounds like a folk song".
That's not a good name for a folk song
A better name would've been "The Battle of cartoonetwork.com Supremacy."
Rabi~en~Rose
12-20-2003, 08:27 PM
wow that was pretty intense!
really loved that new(?) piece of bgm they had going a couple times this episode. kinda peaceful!
poor Matt....and R.D. they didn't deserve this. :(
Blake pouting? hahaha. He's a been a lame rival so far anyway so he deserves not to beat R.D.
A 4 Zoid fuzor geeeez I wonder what the power level on Matrix Dragon is anyway?
Another good episode.... http://members.aol.com/kimminakochan/chicken.gif
Umm...wasn't this episode called "Matt Battled RD"? You mean to tell me the episode title was based off of that battle in the beginning? Please!
The only thing I really liked here was the arrival of the original Fuzor: Matrix Dragon (as in, these four Zoids were the original Fuzor Zoids released on the market, long before the series was announced), which Raven could beat in 5 seconds (that's if he's feeling generous).
Throughout the rest of this episode, I was seriously hoping that we'd get some kind of background on Blake (who finally makes a re-appearence) and this organization he belongs to, but no.
Ah well, RD got his butt handed to him, so that's good.
DianaGohan
12-20-2003, 08:37 PM
The Episode Title Is A Lie As "Matt (Didn't Really) Battled R.D" In The Zoids Fuzors Episode Review, But It Was The Subject Of Much Talking About.
You know when you know you have a good parody? You're laughing at the jokes you make as the episode rolls along. But enough teasing about tommorow and what that holds. Today was pretty good. Return of our old "friend" Blake (where has he been the last 6 episodes), R.D gets his ass kicked by the Matrix Dragon and Matt gets REJECTED! (Probably self ejected, but you get the picture). The last new episode for awhile is next week, so who knows if this will end on a cliffhanger we'll be pondering for months or we'll rush through the episode and it will end this little saga, but it should be intresting. A-
Razor
12-20-2003, 08:42 PM
I dunnow, Duke. The Matrix Dragon was moving a lot faster than I ever saw the Genosaurer move... and it's a heck of a lot more aerodynamic than the Genobreaker.
Plus the energy blade slash it uses seems on par with a CPC blast.
EDIT - I mean in terms of versatility. On its own, it's not as potent, but it can be thrown rather quickly... used repeatedly, it could do a lot of damage to the 'Breaker, I think.
Hyper Shadow X
12-20-2003, 08:43 PM
Matrix Dragon is cool.
shoujoaifan
12-20-2003, 08:56 PM
I cannot wait for your parody DianaGohan. Even without this particular episode and the Matt Wilson/Zimed battle for cartoonnetwork.com supremacy, its bound to be good. Or at least better than my first stab at DBGT :D
And forgive me if I sound like an idiot, but what are the details to the Matt Wilson/Zimed battle for cartoonnetwork.com supremacy? :sweat: I have a vaque idea from other remarks about that in the last few weeks.
And NO Sweet, its NOT going to be fine and YES Matt Jr., it is your fault. You don't deserve to be called Jr.. In fact, you don't deserve to be called a Matt. Your new name is Rad. Now get out of here.
And I DEMAND everyone go read my DBGT spoof RIGHT NOW! Er, while you wait for DianaGohan that is. ALL RIGHT, after you read Diana's. Uh, maybe by next Friday? A couple of weeks? A month.
Please? :(
Trust me, its not as lame as this joke :rolleyes:
I dunnow, Duke. The Matrix Dragon was moving a lot faster than I ever saw the Genosaurer move... and it's a heck of a lot more aerodynamic than the Genobreaker.
Plus the energy blade slash it uses seems on par with a CPC blast.
EDIT - I mean in terms of versatility. On its own, it's not as potent, but it can be thrown rather quickly... used repeatedly, it could do a lot of damage to the 'Breaker, I think.
You forget: Raven is piloting it with Shadow in the Zoid Core. The only pilots (IMO) that are better than Raven are Hilts and Van. (And even then, it's not by much)
Razor
12-20-2003, 09:13 PM
And even with Shadow merged, I never saw his Zoids move as fast or as aerodynamically as the Matrix Dragon did. You can over-come raw power with other abilities, like natural speed and agility...
Yes, it does depend on the pilot, but those those three guys seemed to fight rather effectively.
And even with Shadow merged, I never saw his Zoids move as fast or as aerodynamically as the Matrix Dragon did. You can over-come raw power with other abilities, like natural speed and agility...
Yes, it does depend on the pilot, but those those three guys seemed to fight rather effectively.
The only time the Genobreaker moves a lot is when it is in a serious fight. The only times it's in a serious fight are when he's fighting the Blade Liger. The Genosaur moved remarkably well when Raven wanted to, even though most of the time all he had to do was shoot his guns to be effective.
It's possible for a ground unit to take out air units as well. (Well, unless you're playing Advaced Wars, but still.)
Razor
12-20-2003, 09:27 PM
Yes, I know that, but while it can propel itself forward rather quickly, the Genobreaker is still mostly a hovering brick when it comes to manuevering around in the air. And yes, ground units can take out aerial units, but what does the Genobreaker carry? A CPC and some normal guns, most of which the Matrix Dragon could fly out of the way of rather easily...
Corrado
12-20-2003, 09:35 PM
I actually LIKED this episode, even if Matt didn't battle R.D.
I liked Matt's dream, and everyone blaming poor P.I.M.P. R.D for Matt and the Zoids. He was probably thinking of Tracey who wasn't in this episode.
And didn't Sandra look like Angel from the Big O?
Out of 5, I give it 4.
But tomorrow, I think that this parody could actually top "Brutal Battle Royal." I just hope no not nice people invade it, like "Comfort & Joy."
bladeliger
12-20-2003, 09:38 PM
Sorry, I gotta agree with Duke on Raven beating the Matrix Dragon. I mean those are four zoids fused into one with three piolits and they still had somewhat have a hard time dealing with RD. I gotta believe that since Raven is 100000x's better than RD that he would dominate the Dragon. Lets not forget, the charge particle cannon doesn't need a direct hit to be extremely usefull.
Now take into account this is comming from some one who is in love with the Bladeliger and cheers for Van over Raven and this is some heavy stuff... sorta... actually this is just a zoids fan giving his two cents so take it how you will.
Corrado
12-20-2003, 09:47 PM
"The last new episode for awhile is next week"
So that means 2 more parodies than that's it for a while??
Leo Arcadia
12-20-2003, 11:39 PM
This episode had a few surprises for me.
I figured Matrix Dragon would show the minute Nightwise and Mososledge popped into view. I can't say I'm a fan of the Dragon because it seems like such a Power Ranger's premise to have four Zoids combine. I'm dissapointed that the Blox Zoids are treated as equally powerful to their older cousins, seeing as how Blox are smaller, have thinner legs and joints, and almost no weaponry (excluding Leo Striker). Somehow, I always considered Blox weaker to old-school Zoids.
Anyway, back on the episode. This wasn't a shinning moment for Matt. That wasn't very smart, asking strangers to train him. I know Japanese culture isn't as paranoid about talking to strangers, but it just seems dumb to go around asking other people to teach you.
RD lost, and in truth that was unexpected for me. Not that I thought RD was superior to the Matrix Dragon, but the new villains in this episode don't strike me as keepers. I figured them for flash-in-the-pan characters who would appear for one episode and then vanish (like the Sand Stingray gang or the countless underlings from Guardian Force). But it looks like they'll be back for another round. Pretty dumb of them not to make sure Liger Zero Pheonix wasn't down for good. I'm betting the three teams in the next episode will be RD, Blake, and the Matrix Dragon crew.
RD was both full of himself and nervous about losing at the same time in this episode. I guess he's making good on his bragging rights from the battle royal, but he still seems aware that he could lose. And we got to see a different side to Blake. I get the feeling he's a little fond of Matt. I wonder why Matt didn't recognize Blake from his last battle with RD. Speaking of which, I guess the BF has been under repairs since RD and Blake last fought. That might be the reason for his absence.
As for Raven vs Matrix Dragon, I'm not sure we have a clear scale. We know Raven and Van are good because they constantly defeated faceless pilots who were weaker. Zero and Fuzors don't follow that approach. Both Bit and RD have faced pretty prominent figures with only a few nameless pilots. Any character that warrents a face and name is usually intended to be powerful. So, I really can't say who would come out on top. I'm sure Raven would at least struggle a little.
wrenchien
12-21-2003, 12:11 AM
kinda missed this. and any parodies.
let's just say i wanted to see the governor of california in one of his, ehm, prior debates. especially with someone i think was called, james caan. at least i think that's what he was called. maybe they were debating the witness protection program, or something.
maybe next week, when i'm not tired from a vacation, i won't miss next week's episode.
Now take into account this is comming from some one who is in love with the Bladeliger and cheers for Van over Raven and this is some heavy stuff... sorta... actually this is just a zoids fan giving his two cents so take it how you will.
Yea, the Blade Liger is my favorite Zoid ever (Which is why I can't stand it being so frigging weak in this series), and I bet Van could beat the Matrix Dragon. He'd have to be far more creative about it, though (which is what Van does best).
DianaGohan
12-21-2003, 07:19 AM
So that means 2 more parodies than that's it for a while??
Well, I might make parodies of the first 5 episodes (the ones that almost got me to quit on the story) and maybe even "proper" parodies of episode 6 and 7. You know, none of that "Zods Fugors" crap.
Corrado
12-21-2003, 07:51 AM
"Well, I might make parodies of the first 5 episodes (the ones that almost got me to quit on the story) and maybe even "proper" parodies of episode 6 and 7. You know, none of that "Zods Fugors" crap."
Oh yeah, I remember that. You said you were going to quit ala Knights of the Zodiac and you nearly started a flame war with that. Glad you didn't.
I guess that means now I have to watch the repeats.
shoujoaifan
12-21-2003, 09:59 AM
And thus CN's/Hasbro's evil plan is underfoot: get parodiers to make fun of their show, thus causing them to watch the episodes and others as well! HAHAHAHAHA......or something like that.
As for the actual episode, I was kinda intirgued, hoping Matt might find a believable way to beat R.D. Van and uh, dang I'm not good with names, What'shisname :p from Zero weren't much older (not taking into account the dub's giving Van 4 extra years). For the most part if the zoids can absorb impact and the fights used non-lethal weapons and ended before it got serious, than MAYBE it would reasonable to let gifted and/or experienced kids go at it, but then What'shisname couldn't deal with the shaking from the Zero/Berserk Fury fight (which is the ONLY reason Bit actually won, because he was older with a bigger body :p )
And now onto slightly more critical stuff :D : Now unless these new zoids, the Z-Builders, even though they're not called that in the show, appeard out of nowwhere, how could people NOT know about fuzing? It might believable if they uncovered zoids from excavation, but if they were everyday stuff, wouldn't people notice all these parts and go: "Hmm, hey, I think these two parts connect together!" :rolleyes:
As for how powerful the Matrix Dragon is: Toys companies always come out with new stuff and says its better than their last toys.
We know that Fuzors are connected to ZERO from a library book and ZERO is connected to CC/GF becuase of them throwing the permantely fused Organoids in near the end to half explain Zero's and BF's power. Of course, fans don't have to connect each other in their minds, and ther's plenty of plotholes to explain how things don't match up.
Anyway, the Geno's were powerful even without Organoids, but BF took 3 on, but it might have been the shield. Either way, it was a way to make it look cool, which it did, but barely got away with not making the Geno's look totally weak.
In this, probably because they want to sell the Z-Bulider and see-through "Holotech" toys (which are cool looking, but COME ON, that's all they are, not to mention there's been see-thru's in Japan for awhile now), the two main zoids from the last show to attract kids watching the last one, epescially since they're the most popular, yet make them weak or average so they have to rely off fuzing.
Maybe they come up with something like the organoids could finally be free or nothing and the fans will say it anyway :p , although Liger SEEMS to have his advance personality from ZERO. Well, kinda. He hasn't done much except one or two roars and listen to R.D. while he would occasionally do something with Bit, like laugh when he was being an idiot :D
Man, I spent WAY too much time coming up with this stuff and writing it. I'm going out to get some fresh air. :sweat:
lostrune
12-21-2003, 02:41 PM
1. OK, this is sorta the Optimus Prime trailer question: so... where do the rest of the unused Zoids parts go when there's a fusion? If they're left on the field, how come we don't see them or the opponents can't destroy them?
2. That new 4-zoid fuzor, when it first fused and still without its "energy wings," it looked like a flying plucked turkey! :D
3. RD really sucks at a pilot. He can fly fast using the Phoenix's capability, but he didn't use it to his advantage. He was a sitting turkey. :moon2:
Leo Arcadia
12-21-2003, 03:04 PM
We know that Fuzors are connected to ZERO from a library book and ZERO is connected to CC/GF becuase of them throwing the permantely fused Organoids in near the end to half explain Zero's and BF's power. Of course, fans don't have to connect each other in their minds, and ther's plenty of plotholes to explain how things don't match up.
That whole "permenantly bonded organoid" is fan speculation, never proven as fact in the show. It's a popular theory that is taken as fact, but never officially stated.
As for the library book, I just remember hearing that it was about the history of Zoids. No mention of Bit, Ultimate X, or any Zero-related material.
The writers for Zoids never do a good job of connecting the series. It's only accepted as continuity by a leap of faith.
oranthal
12-21-2003, 03:21 PM
poor Matt....and R.D. they didn't deserve this. :(
You're kidding me, right? Of course Matt deserved it. Not only that, he should have lost a limb for it. Now, I agree that R.D. didn't deserve it. He got his ass handed to him because of Matt, and Sweet was way too nice on Matt. At the very least, she should have scolded him. Sure, he feels bad for being tricked but he should feel bad.
How is that the Phoenix Zoid is always around when R.D. wants to fuse with it? Doesn't Phoenix have somewhere else to go or do than waiting to get paged by R.D.?
Now, when the Matrix Dragon was combined, the dudes were wondering if the 3 of them can control 4 Zoids, but then there was no other way for it to work. They were actually thinking about needing Matt in the fourth Zoid, but Matt wouldn't have gone along with attacking R.D., so wouldn't having Matt in the fourth Zoid actually make it worse for them to control the combined Zoids?
Apparently, the parodies is getting a lot more run than the actual show; half of this talkback content is about the paroday. It now looks like that the airing of Zoid Fuzors is for the sole purpose of it being spoofed by DianaGohan.
DianaGohan
12-21-2003, 03:42 PM
As for the library book, I just remember hearing that it was about the history of Zoids. No mention of Bit, Ultimate X, or any Zero-related material.
I think I remember Bit looking at one of the pages and showing it to Sweet and then reading out a wrongly spelt form of Bit's name. Not to sure, but that's what I remember.
BCVM22
12-21-2003, 04:51 PM
I think I remember Bit looking at one of the pages and showing it to Sweet and then reading out a wrongly spelt form of Bit's name. Not to sure, but that's what I remember.
Wrong.
R.D. was pointing out, to Sweet, a misspelling of "kitchen". It had absolutely nothing to do with Zero whatsoever.
Leo Arcadia
12-21-2003, 05:17 PM
Of course Matt deserved it. Not only that, he should have lost a limb for it. Now, I agree that R.D. didn't deserve it. He got his ass handed to him because of Matt, and Sweet was way too nice on Matt. At the very least, she should have scolded him. Sure, he feels bad for being tricked but he should feel bad.
I guess Sweet's too... well... sweet to kick Matt when he's down. If the writers are smart, they'll address Matt's guilt next episode. My words may come back to haunt me next week.
How is that the Phoenix Zoid is always around when R.D. wants to fuse with it? Doesn't Phoenix have somewhere else to go or do than waiting to get paged by R.D.?
There was that one time it didn't show, but I guess its a sort of Big O/G Gundam summoning gimmick.
Apparently, the parodies is getting a lot more run than the actual show; half of this talkback content is about the paroday. It now looks like that the airing of Zoid Fuzors is for the sole purpose of it being spoofed by DianaGohan.
Funny how that worked out. I guess this episode doesn't leave that much for discussion.
DianaGohan
12-21-2003, 05:27 PM
Apparently, the parodies is getting a lot more run than the actual show; half of this talkback content is about the paroday. It now looks like that the airing of Zoid Fuzors is for the sole purpose of it being spoofed by DianaGohan.
Just making sure you don't take Fuzors so seriously. The biggest dicussion though on whether or not the Matrix Dragon could take on Raven's Genosaur... which I kind of goofed on in my parody.
Leo Arcadia
12-21-2003, 09:41 PM
What does everyone think about the woman with the accent who sold oranges to Sweet? I've noticed that a foreign accent usually draws criticism from fans.
Ultra8
12-22-2003, 01:31 AM
Cool episode.
Matrix Dragon
Cr@ppy looking but massively powerfull.
Next week looks to be a good one. :D
What does everyone think about the woman with the accent who sold oranges to Sweet? I've noticed that a foreign accent usually draws criticism from fans.
She sounded a lot younger than she looks.
That's all I really have to say. <.< >.>
SSJPabs
12-22-2003, 02:36 PM
Well Diana, I gotta disagree with Duke here. The Matrix Dragon could take out the Genosaur, which I think is a shame but thats the way the cookie crunches. Doesn't mean that I don't think that Van and Raven could eat any of these pilots alive, I mean, there aren't Zoid wars anymore, and combat pilots can do things that sport pilots never will. I don't care how much you battle, unless you've experienced what it is to try your level best to kill another person who is doing the same you're going to come up short.
Oh yeah, nice accent too. Anyhow, A- episode of Zoids!
Well Diana, I gotta disagree with Duke here. The Matrix Dragon could take out the Genosaur, which I think is a shame but thats the way the cookie crunches. Doesn't mean that I don't think that Van and Raven could eat any of these pilots alive, I mean, there aren't Zoid wars anymore, and combat pilots can do things that sport pilots never will. I don't care how much you battle, unless you've experienced what it is to try your level best to kill another person who is doing the same you're going to come up short.
Oh yeah, nice accent too. Anyhow, A- episode of Zoids!
And, of course, next episode Liger Zero Phoenix will take it out by using its Laser Claw Attack on its back or something.
Actually, Matt will probably find someway to control the Leoblaze parts of the Matrix Dragon, then Liger will come up and beat it in one hit.
DianaGohan
12-22-2003, 03:19 PM
You know, how come the only REAL weapon that R.D's Liger Zero has is the Strike Laser Claw? I mean, Bit at least had diffrent armors later on (and in one episode tried a heavy cannon) but come on! Even the Liger Zero Phoenix has just basic variations of the Laser Claw attack! It's kind of annoying.
Leo Arcadia
12-22-2003, 09:10 PM
You know, how come the only REAL weapon that R.D's Liger Zero has is the Strike Laser Claw? I mean, Bit at least had diffrent armors later on (and in one episode tried a heavy cannon) but come on! Even the Liger Zero Phoenix has just basic variations of the Laser Claw attack! It's kind of annoying.
Especially when you consider that there are two big laser cannons and a big honking missile on its back! But he might not be able to use those since they're Fire Pheonix's equipment. It seems that a Fuzor pilot is responsible for his/her part of the weapons. Since Fire Pheonix can't seem to use those weapons on its own, it probably needs a pilot to fire the lasers and missiles. It might be interesting if someone became Fire Pheonix's pilot. Though I doubt that will happen.
Actually, Matt will probably find someway to control the Leoblaze parts of the Matrix Dragon, then Liger will come up and beat it in one hit.
How much of the Matrix Dragon does Leo Blaze form? The most I saw was a leg.
DianaGohan
12-22-2003, 09:14 PM
Especially when you consider that there are two big laser cannons and a big honking missile on its back! But he might not be able to use those since they're Fire Pheonix's equipment. It seems that a Fuzor pilot is responsible for his/her part of the weapons. Since Fire Pheonix can't seem to use those weapons on its own, it probably needs a pilot to fire the lasers and missiles. It might be interesting if someone became Fire Pheonix's pilot. Though I doubt that will happen.
If Fire Phoenix ever does get a pilot, I hope it's Sweet. Then she'll do something important.... besides being a basic prostitute in my parodies... and I won't have to make fun of her so much.
Leo Arcadia
12-22-2003, 09:15 PM
If Fire Phoenix ever does get a pilot, I hope it's Sweet. Then she'll do something important.... besides being a basic prostitute in my parodies... and I won't have to make fun of her so much.
I'd like that too, but I fear it'd probably be Matt. Then he'd be a more useful character as well.
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