If there is new Big O...

[MJC]

Would you rather see a new season or a movie? Maybe a series of OVAs?

[William C. Maune]

I say as long as the writers have good ideas, keep it coming! 26 more episodes is my pick.

[Artimus Gigan]

Well there is a Big O Season Two Manga....

I want Season three though....

[bassist]

13 episodes for continuation. 26 for spin-off. OVA for prequel and/or any other related story.

[Zach Logan]

No way, the ending was perfect.

[herbkir]

The ending brought Big O to a definite and satisfying conclusion. Some of the questions remained unanswered, sure, but the central mysteries were resolved. There are just enough loose ends to keep fans debating forever on what it all meant.

It would be hard to figure how the story could continue into another season without it getting ridiculous. Why ruin things by trying to force an extension onto a story that's been completed? (^_*)

[Karl Olson]

Cartoon Network's contract gives it the option to renew Big O for an additional 26 episodes. Does this mean that if it chooses to renew Big O it has to do it for 26 episodes or can it choose to order fewer episodes, say 13?

Of course, it's always possible to renegotiate a contract and that would make this point moot.


Renogotiate for the negotiator? ;)

I think a third season of Big O could work. It wouldn't have to change the impact of the ending either. If anything, it could enhance it. Konaka's a good enough writer the regardless of how many episodes CN gave him to play with (well, I wouldn't recommend another 52, but that almost definetely wouldn't happen,) it'd be a worthwhile addition to the universe.

[Big D'oh]

I'll probably get flamed for this, but I think it might be a good idea for AS to *add* another 13 episodes to their 26 option for 39 additional episodes total, and 65 Big O episodes overall. If AS is going to continue to invest in Big O, they might as well bring the episode count up to what is considered the ideal in the US: 65. I'm sure Konaka and the others would have all kinds of good ideas for extending the series without sacrificing quality.

[Karl Olson]

I'll probably get flamed for this, but I think it might be a good idea for AS to *add* another 13 episodes to their 26 option for 39 additional episodes total, and 65 Big O episodes overall. If AS is going to continue to invest in Big O, they might as well bring the episode count up to what is considered the ideal in the US: 65. I'm sure Konaka and the others would have all kinds of good ideas for extending the series without sacrificing quality.

If Konaka couldn't handle it by himself, he could tap some of the folks he worked with Lain and Texhnolyze on (Yoshitoshi aBe probably being the best candidate to aid Konaka because he now has shown he can write, organize and even create a series.)

[Meson]

The offer was for 26. CN should order 26, and renagotiate the contract for more if the new ones do great as well.

[DianaGohan]

*Ahem* Uh, MJC, I already made a "should there be more Big O" thread on this forum, so you didn't need to make one. You REALLY, REALLY, didn't need to make one. Okay?

[MJC]

*Ahem* Uh, MJC, I already made a "should there be more Big O" thread on this forum, so you didn't need to make one. You REALLY, REALLY, didn't need to make one. Okay?

I know, but this thread is more about what form a continuation should take than if there should be one (although I did include a "no continuation" option). But if a mod wants to lock it, so be it.

[Gary L Thompson]

I'll probably get flamed for this, but I think it might be a good idea for AS to *add* another 13 episodes to their 26 option for 39 additional episodes total, and 65 Big O episodes overall. If AS is going to continue to invest in Big O, they might as well bring the episode count up to what is considered the ideal in the US: 65. I'm sure Konaka and the others would have all kinds of good ideas for extending the series without sacrificing quality.

It would make sense for the owner of Big O's rights to enhance the value of the show (for CN as well, if they're sharing ownership of Big O II as co-producer).

[bassist]

*Ahem* Uh, MJC, I already made a "should there be more Big O" thread on this forum, so you didn't need to make one. You REALLY, REALLY, didn't need to make one. Okay?You're just bitter that it was your thread that was forgotten... too many times I have felt your pain, and yet still, it's not easy holding back the laughter... now, I must go be depressed about how I have mocked myself into a quandry of epic proportions...

[Artimus Gigan]

You're just bitter that it was your thread that was forgotten... too many times I have felt your pain, and yet still, it's not easy holding back the laughter... now, I must go be depressed about how I have mocked myself into a quandry of epic proportions...
you want the red pill, the nuce, or a copy of Bio Dome to end your misery?

[bassist]

Bio Dome, one of the true anomolies of the 90s. It was both an extremely bad and depressing in that sense movie and a hilarious farce of the scientific community and the real biodome mistake.

[Pimmelmann]

I'll probably get flamed for this, but I think it might be a good idea for AS to *add* another 13 episodes to their 26 option for 39 additional episodes total, and 65 Big O episodes overall. If AS is going to continue to invest in Big O, they might as well bring the episode count up to what is considered the ideal in the US: 65. I'm sure Konaka and the others would have all kinds of good ideas for extending the series without sacrificing quality.

I'm not sure what is ideal about 65 episodes-for most syndication deals in the U.S., which are where the big money comes in (most shows lose money on the initial run, for example E.R.), the magic number is 100.

My ideal number of Big O episodes is, like, a million.

[RogueMartian]

I would like to see a prequel ova. I think that would save my confusion a lot more than any sequels. Though as confusing as it is, I do like this series, so a sequel of any size wouldn't be unwelcome.

I wonder if they'd do it like groundhog's day. Just have roger relive the moments, I wonder if Angel would remember who/what she is this time.

[Big D'oh]

I'm not sure what is ideal about 65 episodes-for most syndication deals in the U.S., which are where the big money comes in (most shows lose money on the initial run, for example E.R.), the magic number is 100.

There's certainly a percieved age factor that comes into play. While the 65 "rule' certainly applies to live-action as the absolute bare minimum episode requirement, it's usually applied to younger audiences. It's supposedly the most repetition you can get away on a 5-day-a-week sched with while still holding the attention of adolescent audiences. Of course, there's been a flux regarding business models since, say, classic He-man, but it usually still applies to animation, and I have no doubt most suits will apply it to anime as well. Certainly, 100 episodes or more is considered far better for live-action, sitcom or drama. And of course, this is just the US we're talking about.

In fact, IIRC, there was recently a situation where the Garfield series was stripped, and the broadcaster refused to buy the entire package. I can't remember the exact number, but I think it may have been airing around only 70% of the total eps made. The broadcaster simply felt they had enough episodes for their minimum requirement, and didn't need the rest. And a lot of the fans of the show were pissed.


My ideal number of Big O episodes is, like, a million.

As Beck would say, "Sing it, brother!".

[Gary L Thompson]

I'm not sure what is ideal about 65 episodes-for most syndication deals in the U.S., which are where the big money comes in (most shows lose money on the initial run, for example E.R.), the magic number is 100.

My ideal number of Big O episodes is, like, a million.


True, 100 episodes is generally regarded as the ideal minimum. But 65 is generally regarded as the absolute minimum because it means no more than four reruns a year.

In fact, IIRC, there was recently a situation where the Garfield series was stripped, and the broadcaster refused to buy the entire package. I can't remember the exact number, but I think it may have been airing around only 70% of the total eps made. The broadcaster simply felt they had enough episodes for their minimum requirement, and didn't need the rest. And a lot of the fans of the show were pissed.

Just a bit more confirmation of my pet theory that being empty-headed is prime qualification to be a TV executive.

[Artimus Gigan]

And since last night's cards said there would be no more anime in the 11:00 time slot, I'm under the impression that Cartoon Network will never coproduce another anime series for Adult Swim ever again.
never say never...if there is a market, there is a way to appease it...and milk it for all it's worth

CN did IGPX and Big O Season 2...both faired quite well

There is no Anime in the 11:00 slot currently...but who knows what tidings will come IN THE FUTURE!

[Lord Dalek]

If Konaka couldn't handle it by himself, he could tap some of the folks he worked with Lain and Texhnolyze on (Yoshitoshi aBe probably being the best candidate to aid Konaka because he now has shown he can write, organize and even create a series.)

Albeit one that started out going nowhere and ended up going nowhere (Haibane Renmei). Nah, Konaka is one of the four best screenwriters working in Anime right now, so he should have no problem figuring out a way to extend the series' lifespan. Unless, he's too busy with Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2041.