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Killtacular
11-01-2003, 04:52 PM
No character named Matt was ever good in a TV show or film. Especially Matt Wilson.
Do you remember Matt Wilson from Encino Man? Or Matt Wilson from Saved by the Bell? Villains! VILLAINS!
Mugen
11-01-2003, 05:02 PM
No threats today to Zoids fans? THIS CAN'T BE!
Btw, how's the pilot coming?
Artimus Gigan
11-01-2003, 05:14 PM
I threaten...TO WATCH THIS EPISODE!
And so the countdown begins...
wrenchien
11-01-2003, 08:11 PM
what a fall from grace for that kid. :(
Mugen
11-01-2003, 08:14 PM
I'm assuming this is what Matt Wilson was like when he was a kid(lol*kid*lol).
Razor
11-01-2003, 08:25 PM
I liked it. Seeing the Leoblaze was pretty cool, and the CGI seemed better. I would have liked to see R.D. find a way to take down the Buster Fury without the Fire Phoenix, but it was fine.
But Matt is gonna get a raw deal just for existing. I know it.
Supernovametalstar
11-01-2003, 08:27 PM
Hey, a little kid that isn't annoying! What a concept :p .
I liked this episode. It showed a spark of a good fight, but it fell through to build more of anticipation for when RD and Blake have it out later. I don't mind, since it gave way to a story that I was able to sit through. As long as Matt doesn't turn into a complete "mini-me" of RD (which we saw a glimpse of in that soda drinking scene), then I'm okay with him.
Another plus to the episode, Brian Drummond's voice as Blake. I never get enough of his talent.
Artimus Gigan
11-01-2003, 08:27 PM
Now this was a good episode, if this continues the series should really pick up...
Razor
11-01-2003, 08:28 PM
So, what, Nightwise, Unenlagia, and now Leoblaze.
Now all we need is Mosasledge. Though I doubt we'll get to see the Matrix Dragon, considering how everyone but Leoblaze has been portrayed.
Colodie
11-01-2003, 08:32 PM
Heck, I'll just give random thoughts..
Looks like Mach Storm also had a LeoBlase in their hanger, wonder what else will pop up...
Would using a Berserk Fury and Buster Eager to do less than legal things be all that smart? There rare, if not unique, so it'd kinda be easy to find out who did it...
Also., why don't they just let Buster Eagle go at Liger Zero by itself, Buster Eagle can fly, so it doesn't have to worry about claws, then it's just Buster Eagle's quite large cannons, vs. Liger Zero's small little chest cannons...
And yep..
DianaGohan
11-01-2003, 08:33 PM
It's The Last One Of It's Kind Review In The Zoid Fuzors Episode Review of "The Kid Name Matt".
(Note: This starts off topic a bit. Bear with me).
Last week, I offically gave up on Knights of The Zodiac. The bad plotting, the boring fights, the horrendous edits by DIC, and anything else that was part of KotZ made me finally quit on the show after about 11 or so episodes. People asked "why'd it take so long for you to realize how much it sucked" and stuff like that. Well, I like to give a series a while to grow on me before I completley turn away from it, however I do realize that there should only be so much of a limit given, and if a series isn't going to improve by some point, it isn't going to improve to what you want it to improve at. So what's the point with this? Plain and simple, my friends:
I GIVE UP ON ZOIDS FUZORS!!!!
To be honest, I really haven't watched that much of Chaotic Century/Guardian Force, and didn't really like the little I saw of it. I enjoyed Zoids Zero (it's a good "please remove brain and look at the action" type of show and it has some good humor at times) but Fuzors? Forget about it? Lame characters, plot that goes nowhere (blah blah, I'm a Fuzor now and my partner's a big flaming bird and everyone hates me because I'm an idiot and half of the people who hate me are jerks) and fairly cliche storylines (Like today's episode. Sure Matt looks a bit intresting now, but who wants to bet he becomes little more then the cute little child character on the show) and one charactermanship (aka only one character's important on the show and no one else really matters. Sure there are other cases, but none that bug me as much as Zoids Fuzors).
So in other words, adding a Matt to the cast dosen't help things. If it was Matt Wilson, it would at least be entertaining ("Hey R.D, you know that you are just plain useless and you're show is crap?" or something like that) but it just dosen't work this way. I think this episode was a bit better then the last two, but I just don't care anymore. C+
Overall Predicted Series Grade: D+
So I'm gone Zoid Fuzors. Get yourself some other sucker (Disappears from the zoid world forever).
Infinity Blade
11-01-2003, 08:47 PM
*finds it odd someone is criticizing Fuzors' plot for going nowhere but just excuses Zero as a "'please remove brain and look at the action' type of show"*
...right. Okay.
Well, to each their own... O_o
Catlover
11-01-2003, 08:54 PM
I'm really begining to like Zoids Fuzors. It might be an toy ad, but it's one of the better toy adds out there. This episode was pretty good, and the kid looks like he might not be annoying. B- For lacking on the fight.
Razor
11-01-2003, 08:54 PM
I'm going to have to ask how R.D. managing to be the prominant character is any different from the way things handled in ZERO. Bit was almost always the main character early on, and they didn't really focus on many of the others until further in. Even in Harry's introduction episode, which had Leena manipulating everyone, Bit was still the one to ultimately defeat the Dark Horn, wasn't he? Heck, Bit and Liger 0 defeated Naomi's gunsniper, didn't he?
And Fuzors has done a fairly good job of giving people character without exclusively focusing on them, I think. Like him or not, but someone like Sigma already has a lot more character than Brad in Zero did at this point. The only one that hasn't had much to define him is Helmet.
As for the plot going nowhere, neither did Zero's, and I still think that was a good show. A battle a day is not a running plot, and the Backdraft group become no different from the common challengers when it was revealed who they were.
And the bird armor mcguffin is no different than the original Zero's armor. I'd also reckon that as the series progresses, the Ligero 0 Phoenix will stop being a battle ender.
The one thing that brings Fuzors down in my eyes is that the CGI could use some work.
Anime Guy
11-01-2003, 08:56 PM
then it's just Buster Eagle's quite large cannons, vs. Liger Zero's small little chest cannons...
I sense innuendo.
So I'm gone Zoid Fuzors. Get yourself some other sucker (Disappears from the zoid world forever).
You'll be back, they all come back.
*in Brak's voice* Besides, what if a really cool episode airs and everyone else thinks it's cool and you don't know if it's cool or not because you didn't see it because you swore it off forever? Then what? I'd say, "AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!! I MISSED IT! THE BEST ZOIDS EPISODE EVAR AND I MISSED IT!" The moral here, don't quit watching!"
Razor
11-01-2003, 09:01 PM
Also., why don't they just let Buster Eagle go at Liger Zero by itself, Buster Eagle can fly, so it doesn't have to worry about claws, then it's just Buster Eagle's quite large cannons, vs. Liger Zero's small little chest cannons...
The lack of flying ability didn't stop the Liger 0 in the last series.
But the Buster Fury has a shield, flight, two giant cannons, and a charged particle cannon, so combining is really an advantage.
Well, maybe the Buster Eagle can fly faster than the Buster Fury...
DianaGohan
11-01-2003, 09:46 PM
Hmmm, comments about my decision. How un-surprising. Let's go over them, shall we?
*finds it odd someone is criticizing Fuzors' plot for going nowhere but just excuses Zero as a "'please remove brain and look at the action' type of show"*
...right. Okay.
Well, to each their own... O_o
I tried removing my brain for Fuzors, but it wasn't the same feeling. It was a "It dosen't matter what I do with this show, I just won't like it" type of feeling.
I'm going to have to ask how R.D. managing to be the prominant character is any different from the way things handled in ZERO. Bit was almost always the main character early on, and they didn't really focus on many of the others until further in. Even in Harry's introduction episode, which had Leena manipulating everyone, Bit was still the one to ultimately defeat the Dark Horn, wasn't he? Heck, Bit and Liger 0 defeated Naomi's gunsniper, didn't he?
And Fuzors has done a fairly good job of giving people character without exclusively focusing on them, I think. Like him or not, but someone like Sigma already has a lot more character than Brad in Zero did at this point. The only one that hasn't had much to define him is Helmet.
As for the plot going nowhere, neither did Zero's, and I still think that was a good show. A battle a day is not a running plot, and the Backdraft group become no different from the common challengers when it was revealed who they were.
And the bird armor mcguffin is no different than the original Zero's armor. I'd also reckon that as the series progresses, the Ligero 0 Phoenix will stop being a battle ender.
The one thing that brings Fuzors down in my eyes is that the CGI could use some work.
Okay, I have to admitt I came into Zero in the middle of the series, so I probably would get a diffrent liking of it if I watched it from the beginning. Yeah, I can see some of you're points, but I'm still pretty sick of Zoids Fuzors. And yes, I am quitting. No doubt.
You'll be back, they all come back.
*in Brak's voice* Besides, what if a really cool episode airs and everyone else thinks it's cool and you don't know if it's cool or not because you didn't see it because you swore it off forever? Then what? I'd say, "AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!! I MISSED IT! THE BEST ZOIDS EPISODE EVAR AND I MISSED IT!" The moral here, don't quit watching!"
[Adult Swim]
NEWS
Brak: This is Brak here for the Adult Swim news. However, since there is no news for Adult Swim, I'm just gonna talk about how much Zoids Fuzors sucks. People say my show is badly written but buddy, at least I don't crap all over my writing and call it gold. And now for you're viewing pleasure I will imitate an episode of Zoids Fuzors. AHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY NAME IS R.D AND I'M A STUPID MORON WHO EVERYONE hates. Well hey there buddy. My name's Brak. I hang in the same boat as you. Wanna go for some Creamawhoopers? I CAN'T BECAUSE I'M TOO BUSY FIGHTING IN ZOID BATTLES WITH PEOPLE WHO HATE ME WITH NO EXPLAINED REASON AND I CAN ONLY REAL WIN WHEN I COMBINE WITH A BIG FLAMING BIRD!!!! Wow! I like birds. That kinda reminds me of my old friend, Mr. Bawkbagawk, and he was flaming when Zorak had him for barbeque last night. I HAVE FRIENDS TOO!!!! I HAVE SWEET (WHOSE A GIRL WHO LIKES ME BUT TREATS ME LIKE CRAP WHO HAS NO REAL CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT) AND THIS HARD*** CALLED HELMUT AND THIS JACK*** CALLED SIGMA AND THEN THERE'S THIS NEW KID MATT WHOSE MY LITTLE CLONE AND THEN THERE'S SOME OTHER GUYS WHO AREN'T EVEN WORTH REMEMBERING AND... I HAVE A LIGER JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER STAR OF ZOIDS!!! And I have an ingrown toenail. Nice talking to you buddy! NOW I HAVE TO TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY WE SPENT ON CGI AND NOT ON THE SCRIPTS AND THE ACTING AND. Well that's it for the Adult Swim news. And this is why 9 out of 10 Zoid Trainers want they're news not of Liger's butt but rather mine.
[Adult Swim]
NEWS
Razor
11-01-2003, 11:03 PM
[Adult Swim]
NEWS
Brak: This is Brak here for the Adult Swim news. However, since there is no news for Adult Swim, I'm just gonna talk about how much Zoids Fuzors sucks. People say my show is badly written but buddy, at least I don't crap all over my writing and call it gold.
I don't think any Zoids Fuzors writers are calling their writing gold. I think they're putting a show out like anyone else. There's no overjoyous statements of saying "THIS SHOW HAS NO FLAWS! YOU SHOULD LOVE US AND EVERYTHING BAD BEING SAID ISN'T TRUE!" And people who disagree with you are going to try making counterpoints.
And now for you're viewing pleasure I will imitate an episode of Zoids Fuzors. AHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY NAME IS R.D AND I'M A STUPID MORON WHO EVERYONE hates. Well hey there buddy. My name's Brak. I hang in the same boat as you. Wanna go for some Creamawhoopers? I CAN'T BECAUSE I'M TOO BUSY FIGHTING IN ZOID BATTLES WITH PEOPLE WHO HATE ME WITH NO EXPLAINED REASON AND I CAN ONLY REAL WIN WHEN I COMBINE WITH A BIG FLAMING BIRD!!!!
Funny. I guess he defeated the Beserk Fury in episode 1 in a manner that didn't involve the Strike Laser claw. And the Killer Spiner didn't suffer from power failure.
And what if they explain the Savage Hammer rivalry? What if they ARE saving the exposition for later?
Wow! I like birds. That kinda reminds me of my old friend, Mr. Bawkbagawk, and he was flaming when Zorak had him for barbeque last night. I HAVE FRIENDS TOO!!!! I HAVE SWEET (WHOSE A GIRL WHO LIKES ME BUT TREATS ME LIKE CRAP WHO HAS NO REAL CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT) AND THIS HARD*** CALLED HELMUT AND THIS JACK*** CALLED SIGMA AND THEN THERE'S THIS NEW KID MATT WHOSE MY LITTLE CLONE AND THEN THERE'S SOME OTHER GUYS WHO AREN'T EVEN WORTH REMEMBERING AND... I HAVE A LIGER JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER STAR OF ZOIDS!!!
... Wow, nice over simplification there. One, it overlooks the fact that Sweet, much like everyone else, only acts like that towards him at times because RD does things to deserve it. As for no character development... it's FIVE EPISODES IN... In Zero, BIT didn't have any character development FIVE EPISODES IN. Hell, even CC didn't have much character development FIVE EPISODES IN.
And I suppose Helmet should just let RD's actions drag the team's performance down. You act like being serious is a bad thing.
As for Sigma, yes, he's a prick. There are also people who are like that.
Matt is far from RD's clone. Yes, they do have some similarities, and they've developed a buddy system, but Matt shows some resourcefulness and seriousness for his age. Yes, he does show some foolishness by taking the Leoblaze, but he doesn't greet everything with the bravado that RD does.
As for the Liger thing, it's a tradition. Kind of like how every digimon main character has goggles, or how most Transformer leaders are based on the Optimus Prime design.
And I have an ingrown toenail. Nice talking to you buddy! NOW I HAVE TO TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY WE SPENT ON CGI AND NOT ON THE SCRIPTS AND THE ACTING AND. Well that's it for the Adult Swim news. And this is why 9 out of 10 Zoid Trainers want they're news not of Liger's butt but rather mine.
The acting is no worse than anything else this group of voice actors have done, and they have done other things.
And I'd rather not get my news out of anyone's butt.
I do have to wonder when sensible, respective comments became less effective than ones like the above parody.
TacoHunter
11-01-2003, 11:39 PM
Dude, this episode ROCKED! I can't believe it was so bad until now. I actually felt some emotion when they started to go a bit in to RD's past, and also with the kid. I felt some emotion when the kid was trying to defend his apartment from that big lance zoid (I don't know its name). And the fights were great. It ended horribly anticlimactically, but what did happen was great. RD intro to the battle, and going all bad ass by dodging the Buster Fury's attacks. This episode really really impressed me. Thank god it has finally stopped sucking. I just hope next week's is as good or better.
Razor
11-01-2003, 11:43 PM
I felt some emotion when the kid was trying to defend his apartment from that big lance zoid (I don't know its name).
Lord Gale.
Anime Guy
11-01-2003, 11:47 PM
Thanks for sticking up for me, Razor, but Diana really handed my ass to me there. Oh well, I'll let Diana know if the series gets any better.
Ultra8
11-02-2003, 02:32 AM
Excellant episode :D !!
The old extorsion via zoid, great battle, and RD getting panicky dury a tv interview. Also the shows host was to cute.
I really wish they'd show previews at the end.
10/10 stars :anime:
DianaGohan
11-02-2003, 09:46 AM
To Razor's Comments: I can see what you're saying, and I can see it makes sense in some way, but I really just don't care about Zoids Fuzors anymore. It had 5 episodes, it didn't make me want to keep watching, so I'm done with it. I'm sorry if I sound offensive, I just really don't want to deal with Zoids Fuzors anymore. Thank you.
creeper
11-02-2003, 09:53 AM
To Razor's Comments: I can see what you're saying, and I can see it makes sense in some way, but I really just don't care about Zoids Fuzors anymore. It had 5 episodes, it didn't make me want to keep watching, so I'm done with it. I'm sorry if I sound offensive, I just really don't want to deal with Zoids Fuzors anymore. Thank you.
I'm right w/ you on not watching fuzors, but did i misread and hear you say that you didn't like CC/GF? So you haven't seen all of it?
Razor
11-02-2003, 10:06 AM
To Razor's Comments: I can see what you're saying, and I can see it makes sense in some way, but I really just don't care about Zoids Fuzors anymore. It had 5 episodes, it didn't make me want to keep watching, so I'm done with it. I'm sorry if I sound offensive, I just really don't want to deal with Zoids Fuzors anymore. Thank you.
There were better ways of saying that.
DianaGohan
11-02-2003, 10:43 AM
There were better ways of saying that.
I'm sure there are, but at this point (no offense) I really don't care anymore.
I'm right w/ you on not watching fuzors, but did i misread and hear you say that you didn't like CC/GF? So you haven't seen all of it?
I haven't. In fact, I believe I saw an episode or two of it, but nothing else. I probably should of saw more of it, but I haven't, which really isn't fair I guess but I really don't want to see anymore of it. Call me a jerk if you must but that's just the way I feel.
creeper
11-02-2003, 12:13 PM
I haven't. In fact, I believe I saw an episode or two of it, but nothing else. I probably should of saw more of it, but I haven't, which really isn't fair I guess but I really don't want to see anymore of it. Call me a jerk if you must but that's just the way I feel.
I will certainly not call you a jerk, but i will say, take a cue from mister Crichton and reconsider. It's a great series. Even though it doesn't have "Zero quality fights" it has a great story. But to each his/her own. Just think about it. *Sigh* course i'm sure you've probaly thought about it many times and come to the same conclusion huh?
Razor
11-02-2003, 12:42 PM
I'm sure there are, but at this point (no offense) I really don't care anymore.
Not caring about the show is fine, but you should care how well thought out your posts and comments are.
True Noir
11-02-2003, 02:14 PM
This wasn't in my opinion an interesting episode at alll. I didn't like it. So i give the episode a D
Wounded_Dragon
11-02-2003, 02:58 PM
I will certainly not call you a jerk, but i will say, take a cue from mister Crichton and reconsider. It's a great series. Even though it doesn't have "Zero quality fights" it has a great story. But to each his/her own. Just think about it. *Sigh* course i'm sure you've probaly thought about it many times and come to the same conclusion huh?
If the lack of backstory concerning RD's rivalry annoys Diana, than the CCC/GF long, long, too long to make the backstory worth anything, wait for the backstory behind Raven's hatred of Zoids will drive her nuts.
CGI...think they paid too much attention to how the toys work and not enough to how animals move.
Corrado
11-02-2003, 03:20 PM
"So I'm gone Zoid Fuzors."
Oh come on, don't say that. You should watch the show, then do one of your award-winning parodies of yours.
Sampo
11-02-2003, 04:35 PM
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Zoids/hug.jpg
Can't we all just get along, just like how Little Matt and R.D. did?
It was that bad?!!! I thought this was an meh/ok episode. It did delve alittle into R.D.'s character. Also watching little Matt bravely defend his home was a bit moving. Although at the sametime I wanted to barf as this little kid learned how to pilot a huge mech like that in such a short time. I will have to agree with Diana. If this little Matt turns into a mini-R.D I will stop watching this series too... But for now he does not appear to be as freakingly annoying as those Transformer Armada kids or that little Speed Racer twit.
Hmm, here's my 2 cents about DianaGohan's post. I do enjoy reading her posts, although I have to say the following. I believe we should repect the opinons of others, in this case Diana's post. But at the same time please keep in mind that if a post looks offensive to someone, that will be the reaction you will recieve and should expect.
Favorite part of this episode. Watching R.D. being a big brother to little Matt...
That sorta cute and bubbly Hostess (http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Zoids/host.jpg)
Today's guest is R.D. who is a little camera shy (http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Zoids/guest.jpg) Note, that (&(& Clone Wars promo thing is very annoying with those sound effects.
And Sweet is not too happy about it. (http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Zoids/ticked.jpg)
We will tear up your home for $12,000 (http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Zoids/12000.jpg)
Crowd reaction to the destruction. (http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Zoids/crowd.jpg)
Pic of uh, whats his name, infront of that zoid. (http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Zoids/pic.jpg)
Sweet with her ladel. (http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Zoids/ladel.jpg)
Wow how cute. Sweet and R.D. as kids... And that ladel. (http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Zoids/cute.jpg)
Two more pics of Sweet. (http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Zoids/sweet2.jpg)
Pics of Little Matt. (http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Zoids/littlematt.jpg)
When I saw this scene it screamed Speed Racer for some reason. (http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Zoids/speedracer.jpg)
I hope that's not Funi brand Root beer. (http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Zoids/cheers.jpg)
Shot of that Savage Hammer's zoid (http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Zoids/zoid1.jpg)
Shot of Liger with glowing eyes. (http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Zoids/liger.jpg)
R.D with his fused zoid. (http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Zoids/rd.jpg)
Blake with his fused zoid. (http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Zoids/dino.jpg)
raykremer
11-03-2003, 12:42 AM
If Matt stays around in the show, I hope there's a point to it.
It seems that they aren't just Zoid tournament fighters, they also do odd jobs (delivery service, mercinary work, etc.) on the side. I guess that sets it apart from NC Zero if nothing else, since Blitz Team and their opponents seemed to just do tournament fighting. Of course, that meant that NC Zero got to focus on the fights. It gave that show identity. I don't know what Fuzor's identity is yet.
oranthal
11-05-2003, 05:26 PM
Hey, a little kid that isn't annoying! What a concept :p .
"Barf me out! Hey, a little kid that totally isn't annoying! Like, oh my gawd! What a concept"
This what is what your first line would be when it is translated to Valley Girl speech.
Check out this link: http://www.80s.com/Entertainment/ValleyURL/
Copy and paste the first page of this talkback, and it will translate the page into Valley Girl speech. And for some reason, Matt was translated to Dork. No offense Matt Wilson.
raykremer
11-07-2003, 07:29 PM
Check out this link: http://www.80s.com/Entertainment/ValleyURL/
And this is relevant how?
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