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animefeind
10-24-2003, 10:57 AM
I'm a black guy who thinks the game is cool. But as usual there are those supposed black leaders all mad and calling the guy who made the game racist but rappers can talk about the same stuff and nobody is offended. just wanted to know what you think.
Joe Mama
10-24-2003, 11:13 AM
Is Ghettopoly the game you're talking about? If so what's it about?
Dark Spider
10-24-2003, 11:37 AM
Is Ghettopoly the game you're talking about? If so what's it about?
I don't know, but I imagine you have to gain control of various streets and charge some sort of rent for "using the street to sell on"...or just gain control of some crappy buildings. Houses in Monopoly are now drug dealers or crappy condos and 4 of them gets you a pimp or a whore house (in place of a hotel in Monopoly). The bank is now a shady loan shark. Community Chest and Chance cards have GTA3 style things and you get/lose money. The most trivial things gets you in jail and you are in there for a 5 rolls (because you're in the ghetto) and bail is now considered a police bribe worth $300 dirty dollars...
This game sounds much better than Monopoly....where can I get it? :D
Oh, and this post was in good taste...especially since I live in the ghetto myself...
Tienshin
10-24-2003, 11:52 AM
Here is the link to the Ghettopoly website (http://www.ghettopoly.com/)
Also if you search for the term "ghettopoly" on google news you'll get a a nice recap of the stories concerning the fallout over the game...
I'll comment on it a little later...
Joe Mama
10-24-2003, 01:00 PM
http://forums.toonzone.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif HA HA!! that looks pretty cool! Way better than that old monopoly game.
Dark Spider
10-24-2003, 04:01 PM
Here is the link to the Ghettopoly website (http://www.ghettopoly.com/)
Also if you search for the term "ghettopoly" on google news you'll get a a nice recap of the stories concerning the fallout over the game...
I'll comment on it a little later...
Except for a few minor things, my guess description hit the nail on the head.....damn I'm good... :D
RogueMartian
10-24-2003, 04:39 PM
That's the best monopoly I've seen yet.
SilverKnight
10-24-2003, 05:00 PM
My brother in law would love that game. I should tell him about it. He'd buy it in a heart beat. :D
Tienshin
10-24-2003, 06:22 PM
I gotta say...I am surprised that no one seems to find this game offensive.
Interesting.
okendri
10-24-2003, 07:44 PM
I gotta say...I am surprised that no one seems to find this game offensive.
Interesting.
The only thing about this game is the inclusion of Martin Luther King Jr and Malcolm X. Other than I see it as a parody of the ghetto culture. If he would have came out with the other versions first there wouldn't have been as much attention garnered.
Digu Volz
10-24-2003, 09:56 PM
Amusing, but it doesn't seem worth thirty dollars. Are most board games that much ?
Nick Biped
10-24-2003, 10:08 PM
I've heard about this game before. The only sort of problem I have with it is the use of people like Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. (both mispelled in the game) in it. The juxtaposition of them and the exaggerated "ghetto culture" in the game doesn't seem right.
Otherwise, I'm not quite sure how this is much worse than a number of rap videos that I've seen, and I don't really see groups like the NAACP protesting those.
At any rate, I wouldn't purchase this game.
okendri
10-24-2003, 11:03 PM
Otherwise, I'm not quite sure how this is much worse than a number of rap videos that I've seen, and I don't really see groups like the NAACP protesting those
Actually the protest quite a bit especially when gangsta rap first took off in the mid 90's. The thing is that it is not covered in the news as much.
The_NewCatwoman
10-25-2003, 01:24 AM
Actually the protest quite a bit especially when gangsta rap first took off in the mid 90's. The thing is that it is not covered in the news as much.
Actually, gansta rap really got its roots back in the eighties with NWA so on and so forth. A lot of people were protesting Dr. Dre, Eazy E, etc. for their anti-government music, as well as a variety of reasons. This in turn lead to gansta rap as it was seen in the mid-ninties, and then now.
As for this game. I live in what could be considered a "ghetto" and honestly I don't find this game amusing or anything like that. I don't want to bash anybody who does, but I find it offensive. I am against the treatment of black culture in pop rap music of today, and in turn I am also against this.
My two bent cents,
tNC
Cartman
10-30-2003, 10:09 AM
I'm not a racist person, but I have to admit that I find the game to be a rather humorous parody of Monopoly. It looks awfully interesting to play.
Calhoun07
10-30-2003, 05:06 PM
I am going to get a little mean here, so forgive me if I step on your toes. I just wanted to say that I feel the "racist" term is bantered around too liberally in our society today. I really don't think the term is used for the right purposes either. And with Ghettopoply (I own the game, I've had my own game since last year) the term is really being blown out of porportion. First off, it does not, and I emphasise DOES NOT, just target black people. It targets whites, mexicans and asians, and the guy who created it is Asian for crying out loud. Secondly, the game does not, and I again emphasise DOES NOT, have squares targeted to attack Martin Luther King Jr and Malcom X personally. Martin Luther King Jr Blvd, for example, is a real life street known for it's crime and prostitution, and the game pokes fun at that. I suggest people with a problem with it stop ranting about the game when they haven't seen it personally to know what the hell they are talking about. It's a funny game full of great social satire and should be appreciated for what it is, not attacked or banned.
Eddie G.
10-30-2003, 07:04 PM
This isn't racist, however it does to contribute to our culture treating the ghetto and poor people as entertaiment. I really got now major problem with it, except for the logo, I don't like the guy on the front he could be considored offensive.
Tienshin
10-30-2003, 07:48 PM
Ok, my 2 cents on this game.
While the game does not offend me personally, I can see why and how some people are highly agitated by the premise of its concept. Call it satire but what is there to be gained by satirizing "any city USA ghettos" Lets see; there is poverty, crime, drug addiction, detoriated infrastructure, flight of business to suburbs, gentrification of those same areas in major cities, and a sense of hopelessness for those trying to better themselves. I grew up in those conditions, and its not nice. I had the opportunity to attend a private school for secondary education and as such matriculated to a top tier university, which further allowed me to obtain my current job. Now, as a professional I carry my own weight and work hard to be a good employee and continue to better my position in life.
Being a Black man, I do find at times that because of all the factors that have led to my current situation in life that I have to fight off others perception of me as being like the guy on the cover the Ghettopoly game. In other words, people sometimes see me and expect, a slang talking, angry, and generally unpleasant person. Case in point: I travelled this week to my corporate office, and met several people who I work with via email and phone and I got quite a few "oh, I didnt know you are black type comments" On the surface these things dont mean anything. But, my thoughts were: Why would you assume I was "default", i.e. white?
I guess my point is, I feel that I have worked hard to get where I am and have done so on my own merits, and to see a game like this that only reinforces the image of the stereotypical minority in America, I feel like some part of me is being invalidated in the eyes of those who dont know me, or may meet me in the future. Certainly I will not blame the creator of the game for this perceived effect. And honestly I think the game should still be sold. Because if rap artists, for example, can make millions of dollars by GLORIFYING the situation in America's ghettos then why cant another person make some dough by satirizing it? But in the same vein, I dont support financially any artist whose work makes light of the urban situation. So just like I wont buy a 50 cent album, I wont buy this game.
Fact is, its cool to be ghetto now. In fact Ghetto is MTV cool. By that I mean its cool to recreate the experience: to wear the baggy clothes, to indulge in the lifestyle, to use the slang, etc. Rap artists pioneer new clothing lines...targeted at the urban demographic..people already impovished in many cases and shamelessly sell them 100 dollar pairs of "Sean John" jeans, and it sickens me no to end. Funny thing is you see those same fashions in in the burbs, because its cool to be "down". In a way, this type phenom is uniquely American.
I cant help but wonder about the following question:
How would the game be perceived if if was created and sold, in its current form, but by a white supremicist? How would people react then?
Anyways...ending rant/incoherent babble/stream of consciousness
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
Sailor Gold
10-31-2003, 10:28 PM
I am a huge Monopoly collector myself and I don't think I will be wasting my money to add this one to my collection. If you wanna talk about a good monopoly game, there is a LOTR monopoly game out!!! Now that is worth the dough. :p
Calhoun07
10-31-2003, 11:27 PM
Ok, my 2 cents on this game.
While the game does not offend me personally, I can see why and how some people are highly agitated by the premise of its concept. Call it satire but what is there to be gained by satirizing "any city USA ghettos" Lets see; there is poverty, crime, drug addiction, detoriated infrastructure, flight of business to suburbs, gentrification of those same areas in major cities, and a sense of hopelessness for those trying to better themselves. I grew up in those conditions, and its not nice. I had the opportunity to attend a private school for secondary education and as such matriculated to a top tier university, which further allowed me to obtain my current job. Now, as a professional I carry my own weight and work hard to be a good employee and continue to better my position in life.
Being a Black man, I do find at times that because of all the factors that have led to my current situation in life that I have to fight off others perception of me as being like the guy on the cover the Ghettopoly game. In other words, people sometimes see me and expect, a slang talking, angry, and generally unpleasant person. Case in point: I travelled this week to my corporate office, and met several people who I work with via email and phone and I got quite a few "oh, I didnt know you are black type comments" On the surface these things dont mean anything. But, my thoughts were: Why would you assume I was "default", i.e. white?
I guess my point is, I feel that I have worked hard to get where I am and have done so on my own merits, and to see a game like this that only reinforces the image of the stereotypical minority in America, I feel like some part of me is being invalidated in the eyes of those who dont know me, or may meet me in the future. Certainly I will not blame the creator of the game for this perceived effect. And honestly I think the game should still be sold. Because if rap artists, for example, can make millions of dollars by GLORIFYING the situation in America's ghettos then why cant another person make some dough by satirizing it? But in the same vein, I dont support financially any artist whose work makes light of the urban situation. So just like I wont buy a 50 cent album, I wont buy this game.
Fact is, its cool to be ghetto now. In fact Ghetto is MTV cool. By that I mean its cool to recreate the experience: to wear the baggy clothes, to indulge in the lifestyle, to use the slang, etc. Rap artists pioneer new clothing lines...targeted at the urban demographic..people already impovished in many cases and shamelessly sell them 100 dollar pairs of "Sean John" jeans, and it sickens me no to end. Funny thing is you see those same fashions in in the burbs, because its cool to be "down". In a way, this type phenom is uniquely American.
I cant help but wonder about the following question:
How would the game be perceived if if was created and sold, in its current form, but by a white supremicist? How would people react then?
Anyways...ending rant/incoherent babble/stream of consciousness
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
You know, if you can't learn to laugh at our shortcomings once in a while, you will have a long life of drugery. Good luck on that. And it's just a game after all. Relax.
Tienshin
11-01-2003, 01:05 PM
You know, if you can't learn to laugh at our shortcomings once in a while, you will have a long life of drugery. Good luck on that. And it's just a game after all. Relax.
You didnt read my comments carefully.
Nightflower
11-01-2003, 01:56 PM
You didnt read my comments carefully.
I'm inclined to agree. I thought it was very well-written, and he didn't even say he was offended by the game personally.
EinBebop
11-01-2003, 05:37 PM
You know, if you can't learn to laugh at our shortcomings once in a while, you will have a long life of drugery. Good luck on that. And it's just a game after all. Relax.Laughing at our shortcomings is great, until we start taking them so lightly that they're not shortcomings anymore. Or in other words, if you keep putting negative imagery out there, after awhile it starts to seem normal. I call it the "Ricki Lake" effect.
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