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WingZombie38
10-21-2003, 01:24 PM
[This is a bit long because it was originally going to be about the bad day I had yesterday. I skipped most of my bad day and merged part of it with what this thread is about. I'm time conscious so that's why I'm able to give the correct time below.]

Yesterday, [4:30pm] I was on my way home from a very long midterm. I was on the A train heading downtown. When the train got to 34th Street [4:48pm] it stopped there and did not move. The doors were open and outside I heard the Uptown C and E wasn't running so those people had to go down and over to the Uptown A side.

It's 5:00pm and the train I was on did not move nor did we get the usual delay message. At the time I realized that no train had even come uptown or downtown since the A Express train I was on got there.

Two minutes after that, we get the message : "This train is momentarily delayed due to an injured passenger at 14th Street." Great ... it happens all the time.

After a bit the conductor tells us the same thing. Then right after you here the speakers go off on all of the 34th street Station. "Due to an injured passenger at 14th street, ALL Uptown and Downtown A, C, and E service is suspended." Perfect! Now there is no way I can get home!

Everyone on the train and station wondered what the heck happened to this person to make all service stop.

At around 5:20, my sis and I couldn't take it anymore so we trekked across Penn. Station to take the 9 train [and paid again]. Only later to findout they were going to re-route trains to the 1and 9 lines.

I didn't find out what happened until the this morning's news coverage. Service was stopped at 4pm, because some kid tried to prove how tough he was and got himself KILLED on the Northbound C Train!!

Here's the story :
Newsday - Teens Fatal Stunt (http://www.newsday.com/news/yahoo/nyc-nysub213503828oct21,0,5736011.story?coll=ny-newsaol-headlines)

Here's the clip I saw on the news this morning [it's a popup feed]:
WB11 News Feedroom (http://wpix.feedroom.com/iframeset.jsp?st=1066755617468&rdm=738006.0828658612)

This story hits very close to home because back in high school [and down the line] this is all my peers would do. Messing around between subway cars and actually trying to surf the top of the train. There are signs by the MTA [Metropolitan Transportation Authority] everywhere, including inside the train telling you can get killed messing around this way. But do these imature ones listen?

This is what I hate so much about my peers and contemporaries! Surfing a subway car!? This is not at all like cartoons or movies. You can't blame the media. Just looking at a train when it's in the station tells you there is no real clearance room up there! Those friends of him should have tried harder to stop the boy. But from personal experience, I KNOW there had to be "friends" there cheering him on. I cannot BELIEVE they waited so long to tell the train conductor what happened!

Most of all, I feel sorry for his mother. He was her only child and no doubt the world to her. Gah, I'm so upset I can't type anymore!

What do you all think?

Conekiller
10-21-2003, 02:40 PM
wow, I hope one person's lethat stupidity will at least prevent other such morons form committing similar actis of dumbness.

sorry you had to get delayed cuz of that. it sucks to be affected by others' folly.

Outlander00
10-21-2003, 02:58 PM
Ugh, I saw this this morning on WNBC news... Its sad that kids still try to do this (I heard stories from my college friends who did it a couple times). Whats worse, the kid was dared to do it, nevermind the fact he had done it in the past. However, kids do stupid things at times, and its unfortunate that it ended up like this.

*hugs WZ*

SlyBoy
10-21-2003, 03:06 PM
I'm guessing we'll see him in the next Darwin Awards book, right?

RZetlin
10-21-2003, 03:29 PM
...that we're stupid students and that we do stupid stuff.


Couldn't have said it better.

The worst part is he inconvenienced everybody else with his death.

If a person wants to do something stupid to kill him/herself, make sure it doesn't effect others.

Morpheus
10-21-2003, 03:32 PM
This is too depressing. I already had one person die in the last two months. My Girlfriend died, and this broke my heart. Also, I was delayed by it, living in the grand city.


(She is the reason I have the Coldplay quote in my sig)

WingZombie38
10-21-2003, 05:14 PM
I'm sorry about your girlfriend, Morpheus. You have my sincerest sympathies. :(

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My sis just came from school and told me about her ride home. She heard some kids talking about what had happened like it was the most coolest thing that ever happened. [Don't think this is far-fetched my ex-bestfriend thought 9-11 was the coolest thing ever :mad: ] As they were talking she recognized a few of the friends of the boy [Eric Alvarez] who got killed. My sister was sure it was them when she overheard them speak of what happened a bit differently then the cool talk. From what my sister says, they were not totally honest to the Press at all and sounded a bit guilty.

One of the girls from the news clip said they went to see where Eric Alvarez was. [Since the event happened between the second to last car, this means they ran to the last car to see where Alvarez was.]

My sis then heard one of the girls say that at first there was no blood but they panicked after a bit when they saw the blood. Long story short, Eric Alvarez was still alive and only died after the E train [During rush hour the E & C follow each other very closely] struck him. THEN, they ran up the cars to tell the conductor.

I am sickened more then before. Now I am wondering if the girl holding his legs wasn't just helping him get up. But if she was trying to stop him from getting up she might have been indirectly responsible for him loosing balance [whether or not he hit his head] in the tunnel [the tunnel they went through has a big long curve -- sometimes holding on in the cars of the train I've lost balance] and falling to the side instead of down. Falling down would have made her fall too.

I'm just far too suspicious now. :disappoin

Conekiller
10-21-2003, 06:11 PM
This is too depressing. I already had one person die in the last two months. My Girlfriend died, and this broke my heart. Also, I was delayed by it, living in the grand city.


(She is the reason I have the Coldplay quote in my sig)

Dude, that sucks, man I hope you're allright.

TimTwoFace
10-21-2003, 07:13 PM
Morpheus, I'm sorry to hear that, man. :(

We had a "Subway surfing" problem in Vancouver a few years ago, too, and I thought it was really disturbing that these kids could actually get away with doing it. I guess that's the price you pay for having automated trains and not enough security guards. :shrug:

-Tim