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Tienshin
09-17-2003, 12:15 PM
A couple days ago my girlfriend caught wind that her company may be looking to replace her with a more experienced employee. She is a marketing manager with only a few years experience, and she is completely new to the field she now works in. It seems that while her supervisors think she is a fine employee, they are looking for someone who can work independently, and has some background in the field (she works for a regional office supply chain) Of course this is bad news. But that’s part of the problem.

She has had 5 jobs in 4 years she was a victim of IT company layoffs twice, quit a job after filing a harassment claim against a coworker that the company didn’t resolve, another company she worked at folded after luring her away from another company. She hasn’t been exactly lucky.

I have always been supportive and helpful during these transitions, but no matter what I say she always takes these events personally and basically becomes uber-depressed. The last time she switched jobs, she was out of work for about four months, and every day we would have the same conversation where she would fret about being a failure, etc. And basically I became a therapist. I don’t mind being there for someone in need, but at a point it becomes over bearing, and our relationship really began to suffer because I would get frustrated, that we couldn’t even have a conversation without her feeling sorry for herself. And conversely she began to feel I was blowing her off and not taking her woes seriously. And luckily as things were starting to get really bad between us, she found her current position. Which leads us to this potential situation, where she may be replaced.

Well it has started again, We talked for two hours last night about it, and what her options are…and while I was trying to offer concrete advice (update resume, contact headhunters, be ready to interview) and trying to console her some…she was already on the being a failure, doubting herself, calling herself worthless routine. I thought we had come to the decision that since nothing was final in terms of the company letting her go, that she should simply prepare for the worst and have a sit down with her manager and discuss the issues. But since that conversation we have talked 4 more times in like a 3 hour span, and it’s the same self pity.

I feel terrible for getting annoyed, because she has had to go through some rough waters, but I feel like at a point she just needs to grow up and stop being such a baby about things. I don’t know if I can spend months being her personal therapist again, since she refuses to try and see things from any other perspective. I don’t know how to approach this, and I am worried I may lose it, and snap at her.

How can I take a step back and look at this situation and be helpful without becoming another problem?

Proto DUDE
09-17-2003, 01:10 PM
My idea is that you should come out guns loaded, and tell her that she isn't worthless, she's great, and that she should shut up about this. Then help her find a job.

Slash Tompson
09-17-2003, 05:31 PM
Convincing someone that they're not worthless is a hard thing to do. Trust me I used to be on the same boat your on. Its all a matter of showing her (subtley) that she's important no matter what her current professional status may be. For example, drop the subject, no matter what, for a long while and just take her out and have fun. Get her mind off things. Just make her have so much fun that That she forgets what her problems are. Then, at the end of the day, when she starts thinking about it again, discuss it, and comfort her so that she understands that no matter what you're there to back her up, just like you were the whole day before. Its just a matter of having her understand that its really not all that bad. Another thing, I got the impression from your story that maybe there's a good reason for her replacement. And since nothing is final she can still turn things around. Tell her to start working harder and put in some extra hours. You know, impress the boss. Let me know how it all works out Tienshin.

Proto DUDE
09-17-2003, 07:37 PM
Convincing someone that they're not worthless is a hard thing to do. Trust me I used to be on the same boat your on. Its all a matter of showing her (subtley) that she's important no matter what her current professional status may be. For example, drop the subject, no matter what, for a long while and just take her out and have fun. Get her mind off things. Just make her have so much fun that That she forgets what her problems are. Then, at the end of the day, when she starts thinking about it again, discuss it, and comfort her so that she understands that no matter what you're there to back her up, just like you were the whole day before. Its just a matter of having her understand that its really not all that bad. Another thing, I got the impression from your story that maybe there's a good reason for her replacement. And since nothing is final she can still turn things around. Tell her to start working harder and put in some extra hours. You know, impress the boss. Let me know how it all works out Tienshin.

You're a lifesaver.

Leaping Larry Jojo
09-17-2003, 09:50 PM
I've never heard of anyone being fired or replaced if they weren't doing a bad job. I'm not sure if some companies can always get away with that without exaggerating the replaced victim's faults.

If I were in her position, I'd take a stand, especially if I feel I have done a good enough job and have people within the company to support my argument.

RogueMartian
09-18-2003, 01:00 AM
Slash has the right idea, if your professinal life isn't going too well, you should just take the focus off it for a while. She still has the job now, so she can do her best to impress her boss and coworkers for a while, and if they don't see her value as an employee, that's their problem.

Although you may want to remind her that in this economy, her situation is not at all uncommon. I know many people (myself included) who have been victims of this economy. Bosses let people go randomly and few people are hiring. It's been this way for about 3 years now, so she shouldn't feel too badly.

Digu Volz
09-18-2003, 02:57 PM
There's a lot of ways this could go... You may need to be a bit blunt and rude about her worth, however I'd say that's certainly a final option. Believe it or not, but that actually works if the person isn't easily hurt or offended (though even then they might need to hear it) because, for some reason, people get comfortable on other people's shoulders. I hope it won't come to such brusque behavior, but don't rule it out.