Concerning evolution....

[Slash Tompson]

I was thinking about this last night when I was having a smoke... and you know... killing myself another helpless teenager... Okay. If all land and air animals evolved from a frog looking amphibian (and you can kinda see the resemblance in all forms of life) where do insects come from? Insects evolved from amphibians? I mean, I can't even see that happening. Which brings me to my bonus question, and whoever can enlighten me gets a bonus stab from me, Remember back when we all were iddy biddy kids and we all heard the kooky theory that bugs are actually aliens from another planet? Is there any scientific backing to this? Like did someone just pull that out of their ass or did someone observe that there is an insect that can survive that life hating conditions of space?

[jrh31584]

I was thinking about this last night when I was having a smoke... and you know... killing myself another helpless teenager... Okay. If all land and air animals evolved from a frog looking amphibian (and you can kinda see the resemblance in all forms of life) where do insects come from? Insects evolved from amphibians? I mean, I can't even see that happening. Which brings me to my bonus question, and whoever can enlighten me gets a bonus stab from me, Remember back when we all were iddy biddy kids and we all heard the kooky theory that bugs are actually aliens from another planet? Is there any scientific backing to this? Like did someone just pull that out of their ass or did someone observe that there is an insect that can survive that life hating conditions of space?
Insects brached off very early during the "Cambrian explosion," maybe even before then. It's late and I will provide as detailed as possible of an explanation tomorrow. Only mammals, reptiles, amphibians, and birds came from a frog-looking amphibian.

[Outlander00]

Insects came from mommi and daddy insects :p


Seriously... Insects came from a different organism than mammals for the most part. Where mammals evolved from amphibians, insects evolved from prehistoric forms of worms that had telescopic legs, head, and entennae


Here a brief synopsis I found on-line about insect evolution. (http://hannover.park.org/Canada/Museum/insects/origins/origins.html)

[jrh31584]

Here is a link that may answer some questions.
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/help/taxaform.html

[Squall]

I have a tangent question for everyone concerning evolution... Why do most people think that God and evolution are incompatible events? Why can't evolution be true, but it was God's doing? Personally, I believe that God created the Universe and set it into motion through evolution. After all, what's "a day" to God? 50 million years to us Humans on Earth? :p

[Outlander00]

I have a tangent question for everyone concerning evolution... Why do most people think that God and evolution are incompatible events? Why can't evolution be true, but it was God's doing? Personally, I believe that God created the Universe and set it into motion through evolution. After all, what's "a day" to God? 50 million years to us Humans on Earth? :p


I beleive its due to the dogma and/or arrogance that surrounds either side of those believe either side. People have become too comfortable and/or stubborn to think that way.

[Romanesque]

I have a tangent question for everyone concerning evolution... Why do most people think that God and evolution are incompatible events? Why can't evolution be true, but it was God's doing? Personally, I believe that God created the Universe and set it into motion through evolution. After all, what's "a day" to God? 50 million years to us Humans on Earth? :p

I beleive its due to the dogma and/or arrogance that surrounds either side of those believe either side. People have become too comfortable and/or stubborn to think that way.

Or maybe it's because there are certain schools of theological reasoning which see the two as mutually exclusive... in certain cases, for particular religions. Some take that reasoning one way, some take it the other. Whether that reasoning is right or wrong, not everyone who sees things that way is automatically a victim of dogma, arrogance, or stubbornness...

Romey
--Really not in the debating mood, right now...

[Slash Tompson]

I have this scene from a play that's about two lawyers debating about the very same thing. One is an atheist and the other is a Christian. They debat about whether or not evolution should be a subject in a school room. The atheist, of course, wants it to be taught to children, and the Christian does not. I think it was based on a real live Supreme Court case and the two lawyers were at that time considered the best in the country and the one christian was a runner in the presidential election tha year. I believe he lost, because if he didn't i would probably remember his name. Anyway I'm gonna try and find that scene and post it here. Its really great.

[jrh31584]

The play was probably "Inherit the Wind." It was based on the Scopes "Monkey Trial" in 1925 in Dayton, Tennessee. The actual trial did involve two of the most prominent lawyers and greatest orators in U.S. history, Clarence Darrow, who defended a biology teacher who taught evolution, which was against state law at the time, versus three-time (more?) presidential candidate William Jennings Bryant.

[Joe Mama]

I have a tangent question for everyone concerning evolution... Why do most people think that God and evolution are incompatible events? Why can't evolution be true, but it was God's doing? Personally, I believe that God created the Universe and set it into motion through evolution. After all, what's "a day" to God? 50 million years to us Humans on Earth? :pWell the diffrence between that is, Evolutionists think the earth is billions of years old, when you add up the dates in the Bible, and such it only approximates 10,000 years at the most I bielieve. Plus the book of Genesis say that God created the world in only SIX days, and rested on the seventh (Sunday).

[Outlander00]

Or maybe it's because there are certain schools of theological reasoning which see the two as mutually exclusive... in certain cases, for particular religions. Some take that reasoning one way, some take it the other. Whether that reasoning is right or wrong, not everyone who sees things that way is automatically a victim of dogma, arrogance, or stubbornness...

Youre also right, Romey... but, for the most part, when you do have two sides that see either mutually exclusive, they tend to not want to see the other side of the argument or believe in an idea that is "outside the box" because it doesnt fit what they know or believe in. Ultimately, the people become close minded on the matter (again, normal case scenario that this occurs). That alone could very easily be seen as being arrogant (because the people think their thoughts on the matter are better than others) or stubborn for not wanting to see anything else for whatever reason (scared of change, too comfortable in their beliefs, etc). The latter I tend to see more of in my personal experience.

Personally, I used to be the same way (too stubborn in my beliefs) until I went to college, where I had intereacted with many different cultures, viewpoints, etc... And used to have these very discussions. You tend to learn more about yourself and the world around you once youre thrown into an environment where these ideas flow (like the force :D) and shape what you learn into your own ideas of the world, both physical and (if you believe in it) metaphysical.

btw, I remember reading parts of that play while doing research for one of my Sociology papers... Was very well written, I thought.