C&C - "Inuyasha" Season Two - Week Three [9/9 - 9/12] [Archive]

Arxane

09-09-2003, 12:41 AM

Tonight's the debut of the second director of "Inuyasha". How does he do for a first episode? Pretty good.

Inuyasha defeated Kaijinbo, but Tokijin remains whole and there's nothing they can do about it. Then out comes Sesshoumaru, ready to claim what is rightfully his. Using the evil sword, Sesshoumaru lays the smack-down on Inuyasha, who still cannot wield the Tetsusaiga with its new weight. Eventually Sesshoumaru is ready to deliver the final blow, but Inuyasha transforms into a demon. Luckily his friends prevent another transformation from being completed, and we end the episode with Sesshoumaru now in possession of a second sword and Kagura planning to use Sesshoumaru to destroy the despised Naraku.

Highlights: Rin is just so damn cute! Her scenes definitely brought a smile to my face. The "sit" in the midst of battle was pretty amusing. And ladies and gentlemen, I believe "Inuyasha" has made its first pronounciation of "ass" (correct me if I'm wrong). Now all we need is the script to say "b!tch" and all acceptable AS words will be on "Inuyasha".

A-.

Edits:
Inuyasha's about to kick some ass...no, wait nevermind.

Believe it or not, we have an edit tonight, although it has to do with commercial breaks rather than content. In this episode, the eye-catchers were placed right after the scene where Sesshoumaru knocked the Tetsusaiga out of Inuyasha's hand, it fell to to the ground, and reverted back to its original form. Right after the eye-catchers, the scene of the falling and reverting Tetsusaiga was repeated. Since the AS commercial break wasn't placed between the eye-catchers, the repeat had to be removed.

Really, I don't even know why I consider this an edit. I must be getting desperate. :sweat:

Anywho, tomorrow is introduces Juromaru and Kageromaru, and I've been waiting for these guys for a while now. Why? They're voiced by one of my favorite Ocean voice actors, Brian Drummond.

Until then, "of course its heavy, ya stupid jackass!"

PaQ

09-09-2003, 12:49 AM

Good episode of Inuyasha.. I felt it was a little slower than the last couple of shows. Interesting that Kaijimbo couldn't take all the power that the Tokijin.( and went *Poof*) That was funny how Inuyasha just insults Sesshoumaru like that.. great line. :D Too bad Inuyasha didn't get to go demon all over Sesshoumaru.

Arxane

09-09-2003, 12:55 AM

However, the dub cast didn't seem to perform quite as well tonight as they have been in the last couple episodes. Hopefully they're not regressing.

I must have different hearing than yours, because I actually consider tonight's dub performances better than last Thursday's. :D

Tienshin

09-09-2003, 01:05 AM

A little anti-climatic with with the final save of the IY gang tonight. But good old Sesshoumaru has his reasons. Rin is still cute, and as Jaken mentioned strange, but she is like a flower child...just glad to be alive.

These Inuyasha transformations expose a huge plot hole later in the series but I won't get into that, for now what they are is gravy. And people, gravy makes everything better.

Tomorrow's ep is pretty good. Juromaru and Kageromaru are tough cookies. Plus, Koga's in the mix so somebody is gonna get insulted.

EightOh

09-09-2003, 01:14 AM

I must have different hearing than yours, because I actually consider tonight's dub performances better than last Thursday's. :DAgreed.

Kaiser0120

09-09-2003, 03:04 AM

Did Inu Yasha call the Tetsusaiga "Bloody heavy"? o.o;

raykremer

09-09-2003, 03:10 AM

Since the AS commercial break wasn't placed between the eye-catchers, the repeat had to be removed.
What, they've moved the commercial break to a different place in the episode than where it was originally? How odd. Seems like a lot of effort to go to for something that doesn't make that much of a difference.

PearlRose86

09-09-2003, 07:21 AM

Did Inu Yasha call the Tetsusaiga "Bloody heavy"? o.o;
Yeah, I heard it too... Inu Yasha speaking British swears? http://forums.toonzone.net/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Otherwise, Rin made last night's episode for me. She's so adorable, and the way she just froze into place when Shessomaru told her to stop was amusing. Rin is so sweet. ^^

Oh, and the rest of the episode was okay too. I really liked Inu Yasha's "of course its heavy, ya stupid jackass!" comment.

::seconds vote:: And it's official. Can I third that?

-Maggie

Sampo

09-09-2003, 07:31 AM

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Rin makes another cute appearance. Sesshomaru now wields the indestructible Tokijin.

Wow... even Sesshomaru fears Full Demon Inuyasha... I hope Kagome and crew can continue to keep him from transforming like that. Myoga the flea appeared to be extremely fearful of his new form. At climax of the fight, Kagome and the rest retreat once again with Totosai laying down a cover fire.

Favorite scene. Miroku and Shippo discussing ways to raise money to create a barrier for the evil sword. LOL, Miroku wanted some of that money so that he could entertain the ladies.

Not much else to say for now. Cool episode. :D

EightOh

09-09-2003, 07:35 AM

Did Inu Yasha call the Tetsusaiga "Bloody heavy"? o.o;Bloody well right.

jeffrey 228

09-09-2003, 08:17 AM

I think that sounds kina weird if it is called that name, and not very pretty eaither.

Namuh

09-09-2003, 09:29 AM

Don't get me wrong I love InuYasha ,but I've noticed he seems to rely on the Tetsusaiga alot and now it's the Demon blood that he seems to be getting dependant on.I guess what I'm trying to say is I would like to see a little more skill incorporated into his battles,even Kagome seems to have some strategy when she's helping out.Nonetheless it was still a good episode and it had my favorite demon Sesshomaru in it. :p

100th Post :D :D :D

Sanwich

09-09-2003, 12:26 PM

Mwaha - Rin is reminding me more and more of Ed... Except for the fact that she speaks in coherent sentences. ;)

For some reason, I found one particular scene incredibly amusing - when Miroku and Kagome are plotting how they'll knock Inuyasha out and then drag him away from the evil sword. The length of that conversation, along with the meticulous planning and the fact that Kagome actually went along with it was just funny. To me. n_n;

Namuh

09-09-2003, 12:37 PM

For some reason, I found one particular scene incredibly amusing - when Miroku and Kagome are plotting how they'll knock Inuyasha out and then drag him away from the evil sword. The length of that conversation, along with the meticulous planning and the fact that Kagome actually went along with it was just funny. To me. n_n;

Yes that was a funny scene! :D I couldn't figure out why InuYasha couldn't hear them,I mean with the super sensitive dog ears and the fact that he was right in front of them you think he would have heard something. :confused: :p

Nftnat

09-09-2003, 01:07 PM

I also thought Rin stole the show with her cuteness. of course you gotta like Rin; then again, some hate Shippou, although it might be jealousy of how familiar he gets to be with Kagome. :) But back to Rin, I guess I was a little bit surprised at her literally freezing like that, but not much. I didn't expect it, but surprising? No, certainly not very surprising after that 'pull yourself together' line last week.
So Kagura plans to use Sesshomaru? She might want to find out what happened when Naraku tried to do that, although she might not want to ask Naraku about that after all.
Sesshomaru is getting more of my respect as we go along. From the start I thought of him as the thinking man's demon. He's evil, but he's not just another mindless thug, bent on death and destruction. Maybe he'd leave you alone as long as you don't cross him. He's one of my favorite character types, the good bad guy.
I do wonder about something, though. Apparently Seshy has absorbed the evil in the Tokijin? Or has it taken possession of him and we just don't see it yet? But if he's that evil, how could he use the Tenseiga to heal? Doesn't he need kindness of heart to do that, according to what Totosai said about it originally? Maybe he has kindness he doesn't know he has, or refuses to acknowledge.
Speaking of Totosai, I didn't expect him to contribute to the fight like that.
The conversation between Kagome and Miroku got more interesting the longer it went. And the plans for the Tokijin. I am surprised that Sango didn't have something to say when Miroku mentioned entertaining the ladies.
It is high time that IY started developing the skills he'll need. Although he has done that before; he worked with Kirara on discovering and using the wind scar.
So next episode concerns the baddest brothers in this series since Hiten & Manten. Do they remind anyone else of the Toguro brothers from Yu Yu Hakusho? And Koga's back too. It'll be interesting, although that old line about the enemy of my enemy comes to mind.
I'll check back in later with more when I have it to say. And if you don't know who I am, ask the folks at the WBC board. (or Termite Terrace, or CN) I'm back.

Infinity Blade

09-09-2003, 01:18 PM

Damn. Inuyasha seems to be making up for his lack of cursing earlier in the series. I think this had to be the most I've heard him curse in any episode thus far, and that amount HAS been on the rise lately. :p

Anyway, pretty good episode. The bits with Rin were hilarious, and I agree that Kagome & Miroku's planning, with the way they went about it, was too. ^^

Kagura's definitely interesting me now... so she plans to try and have Sesshoumaru kill Naraku? I would think that'd be easier said than done, as Sesshoumaru seems to care less about what Naraku's doing despite what happened between them before. He would certainly need some proper motivation to go after monkey-boy...

...of course, Sesshoumaru has just obtained something that COULD be seen as a rather significant weakness, so who knows...

About the "gaping plot hole" that this new thing with full-demon Inuyasha has opened up... I suspect that refers to the fact that he never transformed for all that time he DIDN'T have Tetsusaiga?

Honestly, in the recent episodes, I've been under the impression that in the past, even from far away, Tetsusaiga was still able to seal Inuyasha's demon blood. However, upon breaking, it set something loose within him, with nothing to hold it back. Then after Toutousai repaired it, the sword was not the same as it was before. In addition to possibly being stronger, it came with a hand-off of not being able to seal his demon blood as well. So, he has to make sure to keep Tetsusaiga closer with him now, or else he'll go berserk.

At least, that's how I took things.

EDIT - And now looking at the post, I see that it was refering to something LATER in the series, so... my mistake there. ^^;;; Still, I figured that'd be something someone would bring up...

Rabi~en~Rose

09-09-2003, 01:38 PM

I have to wonder what team Inu-yasha will think if/when they see Rin with Seshy? :confused: I bet they won't be to pleased that's for sure. http://members.aol.com/kimminakochan/chicken.gif

Animation Otaku

09-09-2003, 02:34 PM

"Of course it's heavy you stupid jackass." ROFLMAO I gigled at that line. And Sesshoumaru is cared of full-demon Inuyasha? WOAH! My tape stopped before the next episode preview though. :( Guess I'll be surprised tonight.

Michael

09-09-2003, 03:04 PM

great epsiode, i really liked it alot!

kaine23

09-09-2003, 03:09 PM

Bloody great episode! Anyone got a sound file for ""of course its heavy, ya stupid jackass!" yet?

I gotta say though I do like the new ending theme as a song, it's quite pretty, especially after reading the translation for it (and Deep Forest) at animelyrics.com.

Greek_Honeybee

09-09-2003, 03:52 PM

I do wonder about something, though. Apparently Seshy has absorbed the evil in the Tokijin? Or has it taken possession of him and we just don't see it yet? But if he's that evil, how could he use the Tenseiga to heal? Doesn't he need kindness of heart to do that, according to what Totosai said about it originally? Maybe he has kindness he doesn't know he has, or refuses to acknowledge. My personal theory is that he overpowered the evil within Tokijin. Totosai warned him that the aura would possess him, but when Sesshomaru took the sword, it was as if the aura was frightened of him and decided to obey his command instead. Goshinki might've been kinda strong, but Sesshomaru is the Demon Lord of the Western Lands for a reason. That's why Sess said to Totosai "Who do you think I am?"

About the "gaping plot hole" that this new thing with full-demon Inuyasha has opened up... I suspect that refers to the fact that he never transformed for all that time he DIDN'T have Tetsusaiga?He was never without Tetsaiga before. It was always within his father's tomb, inside the black pearl in his eye. Keeping him safe and sane until he was old enough to use it. That's what I always thought...

Patches

09-09-2003, 03:54 PM

Bloody great episode! Anyone got a sound file for ""of course its heavy, ya stupid jackass!" yet?
Funny you should ask. (http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~rzepczrs/IYdubsounds/jackass.wav) I actually made this clip for a different message board for people who live in Canada, Europe, etc, who don't get to see the dub when we do.

Rin's VA is really starting to shine, though. I am constantly impressed by her voice, even though she really hasn't had much dialogue. It makes me wonder if Brenna O'Brian is a real little kid, since I know that Ocean has used actual children for child voice roles in the past.

Infinity Blade

09-09-2003, 03:59 PM

He was never without Tetsaiga before. It was always within his father's tomb, inside the black pearl in his eye. Keeping him safe and sane until he was old enough to use it. That's what I always thought...

*scratches head* I thought that pearl was merely for transportation to someplace else?

Or maybe I'm imagining things and need to watch the first Sesshoumaru arc again...

Patches

09-09-2003, 04:18 PM

*scratches head* I thought that pearl was merely for transportation to someplace else?
This is correct. The Black Pearl was merely the gateway to the tomb, not the tomb itself (this is brought up much MUCH later in the series). As for why Tetsusaiga sealed away his demon blood even before he had it, perhaps Tetsusaiga's very existence kept the demon blood in check, and it was only the act of breaking it that released the seal. Or not. I dunno.My personal theory is that he overpowered the evil within Tokijin. Totosai warned him that the aura would possess him, but when Sesshomaru took the sword, it was as if the aura was frightened of him and decided to obey his command instead. Goshinki might've been kinda strong, but Sesshomaru is the Demon Lord of the Western Lands for a reason. That's why Sess said to Totosai "Who do you think I am?"
Interestingly, Sesshoumaru is mysteriously impervious to just about every single "aura" that gets thrown at him. It could simply be because he's a poison-element, and thus anything with a poisoning effect would be useless against him (like Naraku's miasma). If Sesshoumaru's own evil aura was more potent than Naraku's, then no one should even be able to approach him without getting disintegrated. My opinion is that Sesshoumaru just has a LOT of control, and won over Toukijin by pure willpower. He's just not the kind of guy you'd have a snowball's chance in hell of controlling (unless you're Tenseiga :P).

Mugen

09-09-2003, 04:27 PM

Anywho, tomorrow is introduces Juromaru and Kageromaru, and I've been waiting for these guys for a while now. Why? They're voiced by one of my favorite Ocean voice actors, Brian Drummond.

So, what voice Drummond can use that would fit the character?

Arxane

09-09-2003, 04:30 PM

This is correct. The Black Pearl was merely the gateway to the tomb, not the tomb itself (this is brought up much MUCH later in the series). As for why Tetsusaiga sealed away his demon blood even before he had it, perhaps Tetsusaiga's very existence kept the demon blood in check, and it was only the act of breaking it that released the seal. Or not. I dunno.

That sounds like a reasonable explanation. The very existence of the Tetsusaiga kept Inuyasha's demon blood in check, sealing it up. When Goshinki broke the Tetsusaiga, the seal was broken, allowing Inuyasha's demon blood to flow freely within him. All he needs is to do to awaken that blood is to drive himself to bloodlust when he's either very angry or desperate. Him using the Tetsusaiga keeps this bloodlust at bay because wielding the sword makes him focus; once he loses the Tetsusaiga, his fighting becomes more wild.

Still, it's stuff like this that makes you wonder if Rumiko Takahashi plans her stories out beforehand or makes them up as she goes along. :sweat:

So, what voice Drummond can use that would fit the character?

I dunno. I'm just really interested in how Drummond will handle them, especially Kageromaru. Some people have said Drummond's voice sounds really snake-like (a big complaint about his Vegeta voice), and snake-like is exactly what Kageromaru is. I don't know why, but I didn't really think much of his Japanese voice. It was too deep for my tastes, sounding a little too close to Naraku's Japanese voice.

Beat

09-09-2003, 04:33 PM

Cop out. That's what today's episode was. Let Inu go Hulk on Fluffy! It'll be a good fight.

True Noir

09-09-2003, 05:19 PM

That was hilarioud! Right in the middle of the fight totosai blows his fire between sesshy and inuyasha. AND Kegome goes and says sit and carries inuyasha off.

Arxane

09-09-2003, 05:50 PM

What, they've moved the commercial break to a different place in the episode than where it was originally? How odd. Seems like a lot of effort to go to for something that doesn't make that much of a difference.

Well, it really wasn't that big of an effort. The scene (and repeat) had no music, so all they had to do was cut the repeat and connect everything afterwards to the first one.

I guess the eye-catchers came in too late for CN's advertisers.

Captain Sarcasm

09-09-2003, 06:01 PM

I do wonder about something, though. Apparently Seshy has absorbed the evil in the Tokijin? Or has it taken possession of him and we just don't see it yet? But if he's that evil, how could he use the Tenseiga to heal?

Something I just realized - 'Fluffy' there is still missing his arm from when Inu-Yasha cut it off alllll the way back in episode seven, right? But according to the show, he's had this magical healing sword hanging off his belt for what, years now? Centuries mabye? Why did he never use it on himself? Can he not heal himself with his own weapon, does he need to have the arm with him in order to attach it or does he just not think it's that big an inconvenience to not have half of his arms?

Animation Otaku

09-09-2003, 06:03 PM

The sword, I believe, can only bring you back to life. Jaken was still split in two after coming back to life.

True Noir

09-09-2003, 06:10 PM

Something I just realized - 'Fluffy' there is still missing his arm from when Inu-Yasha cut it off alllll the way back in episode seven, right? But according to the show, he's had this magical healing sword hanging off his belt for what, years now? Centuries mabye? Why did he never use it on himself? Can he not heal himself with his own weapon, does he need to have the arm with him in order to attach it or does he just not think it's that big an inconvenience to not have half of his arms?

When I watched Inuyasha Movie 1 I realized that there was no way the Sesshy could never become as evil as Kikyo. She is the most evil out of all the bad guys.

Stev13_VJED

09-09-2003, 06:49 PM

[Whoa I haven't replied in a while with my Inu reviews http://forums.toonzone.net/images/smilies/frown.gif In any case I really like these new episodes , not just because we've all been begging for them from DREAM lol , but also because we have a cool new end song , the cast is sounding better by the minute (even tho the nihon pronounciations WERE a bit off ) , and the plot thickens and improves (in exception to stori-chan's flashbacks lol ) . This episode in particular was really nice , especialy the battle between Inuyasha and Sesshomaru , Miroku (Houshi) 's plan too knock Inu out and with Kagome , and Tetusaiga overpowering Kajinbo which was like a sengoku jidai take on Luke and Vader lol cept Luke never called anyone a stupid jackass nor is he a half demon badass lol . All in all a superb eppy for a superb show (the next eppy looks great go Koga ! ) ;)

drakh

09-09-2003, 07:40 PM

Rin's VA is really starting to shine, though. I am constantly impressed by her voice, even though she really hasn't had much dialogue. It makes me wonder if Brenna O'Brian is a real little kid, since I know that Ocean has used actual children for child voice roles in the past.
She's 12 according to IMDB (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm1378650/). I believe Reece Thompson (Taromaru), Chantal Strand (Mayu) and Danny McKinnon (Suekichi) are in their early teens too, as is Brittney Wilson (http://www.starletsdatabase.com/spages/x_10D1C051P.asp?name=Brittney%20Wilson), who'll apparently be playing someone named Suzunna later in the series.

kaine23

09-09-2003, 07:45 PM

Funny you should ask. (http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~rzepczrs/IYdubsounds/jackass.wav) I actually made this clip for a different message board for people who live in Canada, Europe, etc, who don't get to see the dub when we do.

Rin's VA is really starting to shine, though. I am constantly impressed by her voice, even though she really hasn't had much dialogue. It makes me wonder if Brenna O'Brian is a real little kid, since I know that Ocean has used actual children for child voice roles in the past.

Thanks, I know have a new Windows startup sound. ^_^ I'm excited to see Brian Drummond's role in IY myself, I became a fan of his work as Zechs in Gundam Wing.

Beat

09-09-2003, 07:47 PM

At least Kikyo hasn't shown her evil face yet. She is worse than Prince Lotor!

Caffeine King

09-09-2003, 08:23 PM

I liked last night's episode. :)

Rin is cute. :anime:

And is was funny when Inuyasha called Fluffy a jackass. :p

Can't wait for tonight's episode. :cool:

Coral Flowers

09-09-2003, 08:28 PM

Good episode. Grade- A.

Liked Inuyasha's different facial expressions in this episode. Sort of odd to see a bug-eyed person (Totosai) give a 'serious' speech.. : p A-un appeared in this episode- First appearance, I think. Totosai's still scared of Sesshomaru- And Sesshomaru was scared of 'Demon' Inuyasha. Loved the scene where Kagome and Miroku were talking about sitting and knocking Inuyasha out to get him away. I thought the 'Rin stopping' scene was cute.. (Notice all the people who 'follow' Sesshomaru jump at his ever command? : P Just noting/generalizing..)
Myoga didn't run away this episode- He got flicked off. :p

Random Note- I liked Totosai's comment in the manga about Tokijin/Sesshomaru more than the one in the anime-
Totosai- Tokijin's evil energy lost to Sesshomaru!? Yeep, whata creepy guy.

... Yup, what a creepy guy. :p
Don't remember the one in the anime off the top of my head, though.. :sweat:

Quotes for the episode-
Jaken- "Speaking of strange woman.." (Looks at Rin, and Rin pops up) Rin- "Hmm?"
Sesshomaru- "To think that he made me, Sesshomaru, tremble with fear for even a moment. Inuyasha, in that instant.."
Kagura- "I am the wind. one day, I shall be free."

Yojimbo

09-09-2003, 09:24 PM

Masamune2052

09-09-2003, 09:32 PM

"Of course it's heavy ya stupid jackass!"
"Speaking of strange women..."
lol with Rin. Sesshomaru has the Tokijin but he is still fearful of Inuyasha's full demon state. Sessho's growing on me as an anti-villian, he's not evil like Naraku and he's got an edge of coolness. Mature and powerful, indeed the lord of the western lands. A- episode, can't wait til bakuryuuha!!
Actually, it will be quite a while before we see Bakuryuuha since we stop at the episode right before it. It will be included in the next batch of episodes though.

Infinity Blade

09-09-2003, 09:51 PM

Actually, it will be quite a while before we see Bakuryuuha since we stop at the episode right before it. It will be included in the next batch of episodes though.

...gaaah... Dammit!

I want to know what they're going to call that thing... :p

GTOnizuka

09-09-2003, 09:53 PM

Die hard InuYasha fan hur. I am very fond of the show. I have to commend the writer of the manga/anime. It gets real deep when tetusaiga breaks (sword his father had made) which probably was forged w/ a body piece of some sort. Maybe a hair or fang; his father was protecting him b/c a part of him was the sword. Now the tetusaiga is forged w/ inuyashas fang so it's like he has to look after himself.
Another deep thing is how the tetusaiga protects inuyasha from going "battotsai" or "full-demon Inuyasha." That sword protecting concept kinda reminds me of the Ronin Warriors's armor/weapons protecting them in that sword of way. How the weapons have a will of their own. Now to think of it, it seems kinda Nortic/Pagan. Stupid British literature class.
I await the battle between the two new Naraku spawns. Should be great.

GTOnizuka

09-09-2003, 09:55 PM

Ahhhh, sweeeeeeT. I am now a member, not a stupid newbie.

One small step for man. One giant leap for mankind. -one of those astronauts(Armstrong maybe)

GTOnizuka

09-09-2003, 10:10 PM

Will Sturnick

09-09-2003, 10:20 PM

...gaaah... Dammit!

I want to know what they're going to call that thing... :p
Same with me and want to hear the dub's attempt ay pronouncing Ryuukotsusei (re-u-kos-sei). Which we'll actually get to hear before the cut off (thanks to the preview).

Patches

09-09-2003, 11:36 PM

Same with me and want to hear the dub's attempt ay pronouncing Ryuukotsusei (re-u-kos-sei). Which we'll actually get to hear before the cut off (thanks to the preview).
Actually, given the more-or-less correctness that they pronounce "Tetsusaiga", they shouldn't have much problem with that one. I'm expecting "Ri-oo-kots-say", which is understandable, considering "Ryu" is probably one of the most difficult Japanese syllables for an English speaker to say correctly (yes, it should only be ONE syllable).

Are there any other new terms between now and episode 52? The only one I can think of is "Bokusen'ou", but that one shouldn't prove too difficult. Ohhh, and Gatenmaru! ... Crap! Another "-maru" name! Well, here comes "Guh-TEN-muh-ROO", then. Oh, and Ah-Un! .... I wonder if his (their?) name will still be "Ah-Un", considering it's... well... a sound-effect (something akin to, like, "Mister Woof"). But it's also his "official" name, so Viz hopefully won't change it.

Tienshin

09-09-2003, 11:46 PM

Oh, and Ah-Un! .... I wonder if his (their?) name will still be "Ah-Un", considering it's... well... a sound-effect (something akin to, like, "Mister Woof"). But it's also his "official" name, so Viz hopefully won't change it.

Good point, I forgot that "Ah Un" was still unnamed at this point. But Viz has been good so far, so a reason to have faith exists.

I wonder if "Bokuseno" will be difficult in the dub?

lostrune

09-09-2003, 11:51 PM

1. To get rid of Tokijin, why can't Miroku just suck it into his void?
He has sucked demons before, and Tokijin technically was a demon.
Plus, since he tried to suck in Naraku before several times, obviously something as a lower lifeform like Tokijin should be fine, right? :shrug:

2. Inuyasha really needs to use his spare time devising some strategies against Sesshy between their battles. Sesshy already knows his moves inside-out. The only way for him to hit Sesshy is thru surprise, like when he first used Tetsaiga.

3. I wonder if there's a Kagura x Sesshy fanfiction....
What am I talking about, there's always some fanfiction. :D

Wounded_Dragon

09-10-2003, 12:29 AM

Hmm, methinks Kagome needs a stronger shampoo, her hair seems to be infested with a Shippo.

Sadly, that was the only real memorable moment in the episode for me.

DianaGohan

09-10-2003, 12:30 AM

The Near Uncontrable Demon Brothers Of The Fourth Incarnation Of Naraku in the "Juromaru and Kageromaru" Inuyasha Episode Review.

Woah, this episode got to the point really fast, not even mentioning the last arc at all. Anyway, Koga comes back, looking for Naraku and Kagura for revenge. Of course, coming to Inuyasha and the gang isn't going to get him the answers he needs, but it does open up his grudge against Inuyasha, which plays out nicely through the rest of the episode. Anyway, we get introducxed to Naraku's newest incarnated demons, Juromaru, a strong silent and not that bright demon and Kageromaru, the smaller bug like (he did have sharp praying mantis hands) demon with a Ocean-Vegeata like voice (that reminds me. Juromaru really didn't talk at all did he, and yet Brian Drummond still gets credit for his voice) and dark temper. Anyway, thanks to come teamwork by Koga and Inuyasha, and a little assistance from Sango and Miroku (which reminds me. When are they gonna play a more important role in battles. Latley it's been Inuyasha whose been doing most of the fighting) they are able to defeat the demon duo, but it's still buisness as usual with the gang. A great fighting sequence and humorous character interactions bump this episodes grade to an A.

Tienshin

09-10-2003, 12:31 AM

"So you really don't want to be with me?" Ah, that look on Inuyasha's face was priceless.

Tonight's eppy was all killer no filler. Juromaru & Kageromaru are serious baddies. YOu have to be afraid of a little monster that likes the taste of human liver. But it was cool to see Koga and IY working together. Despite, their clear alpha male conflicts. Good comedy though. The back and forth between them was A+ material on its own.

Whats that? No flashbacks? Nope, not one.

And of course Kagome sitting Inuyasha, twice, no less.

Tomorrow is a heart wrencher, of sorts. I just dont see what Inuyasha sees in Kikyo...maybe 50 years ago, but now she is friggin dead! Oh well. Whats a good anime without a three way romance, or two?

Sanwich

09-10-2003, 12:34 AM

Wow. 'Alien', anyone? c_c

Also, maybe it's just me, but Sango and Miroku seem to be zooming right along in their sort of 'relationship'... But of course, I guess I can't imagine it going much slower when that monk is involved. ;)

All in all, it was interesting, seeing a bit more interaction with Koga... And Inuyasha trying to hold up that super-heavy sword. Bascially an average episode, in my opinion.

jeffrey 228

09-10-2003, 12:35 AM

About that alien thing, I think I would rather skip on that, due to the fact that it was quite creepy to start with anyway.

Arxane

09-10-2003, 12:43 AM

And tonight Naraku reveals another one of his detatchments. So basically we get another fight, which also happens to involve Koga as a bonus. Tonight's fight was not the best choreographed fight I've seen, but it had an interesting villain at least, and the banter between Inuyasha and Koga was a little amusing. But guess what? Because Koga showed up, now Kagome and Inuyasha are steamed at each other again. It's a repeat of episode 37! Or is it? According to the preview, we actually have some actual stuff going on, not some pointless (but amusing) pouting.

Two episodes into the new director and I already like his style. He uses flashbacks, but to a much better effect. Instead of telling us stuff we already know, they're overlaid what's going to happen. At the very least it's a lot better than how the first director used flashbacks.

For some reason, Richard Cox didn't seem to scream as angrily or as loud as he could've, which was a little disappointing. But Brian Drummond made up for it; his voice for Kageromaru was perfect: deep, sadistic, and sinister. He also hissed pretty well for Juromaru (that's right, Drummond hissed for Juromaru, DianaGohan). Naraku's latest incarnation may have been a throw-away villain, but I don't care.

Overall, not the best episode, but it was entertaining.

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Starring Briand Drummond...and Brian Drummond

None tonight. Not even a necessary commericial edit-thingy.

Tomorrow...everybody's favorite b!tch returns! Seriously, does anyone like Kikyo? All the girls I watch "Inuyasha" with absolutely hate her.

Menion420

09-10-2003, 12:44 AM

Patches

09-10-2003, 12:46 AM

3. I wonder if there's a Kagura x Sesshy fanfiction....
What am I talking about, there's always some fanfiction. :D
Actually, the majority of what you'd find, strangely enough, is Kagome x Sesshoumaru fanfiction (where THAT pairing came from, I'm still trying to figure out, but it's almost more popular than anything canon. Scary). Still, the Kagura/Sesshoumaru relationship is hardly romantic. She just wants him as an ally so he'll kill Naraku for her, and he's too bloody apathetic to care. Pairing Fluffy with anyone just seems a little bizarre to me.

Anyway, on to tonight's episode. Had to dance around the downright awkward pronounciations of the titular characters' names, but other than that, a fairly solid job. "If you're scared of my sword, you're gonna want to hide under the covers for this next part." I really never understood the point of introducing Juuroumaru and Kageroumaru in the first place, since they don't last very long, and nothing particularly plot-worthy happened during the battle, unlike the battle with the other one-shot, Goshinki. I mean, yeah, it got Kouga back in the picture for a little bit, but... uh... whoopdy doo?

Arxane

09-10-2003, 12:49 AM

Question on english version of Inuyasha. I'll put it in a spoiler box just in case, but I dont think it really is one.
I've noticed when Inuyasha does his Kaze no Kizu he just says Tesusgaiga reallly loud right? Well what the hell is he gonna say when he gets his specialty move Bakriyuha<sp?>.. I mean damn is he gonna just yell Ultimate Tesusaiga, heh. Dunno if anyone knows the answer to this yet, havnt checked if they got the dvds out or anything. Figured i'd put this question in this thread instead of starting a new one.

He doesn't really yell "Kaze no Kizu" in the Japanese version either. He just states, "I can see it. Kaze no Kizu!" and then swings the Tetsusaiga. As far as I can tell, whenever he yells "Tetsusaiga" in the English version, he yells "Tetsusaiga!" in the Japanese version. Considering how closely Viz is sticking to the script with these recent episodes, he should yell "Bakriyuha!" or some translation of it (whatever it might be) at the appropriate time.

DianaGohan

09-10-2003, 01:09 AM

For some reason, Richard Cox didn't seem to scream as angrily or as loud as he could've, which was a little disappointing. But Brian Drummond made up for it; his voice for Kageromaru was perfect: deep, sadistic, and sinister. He also hissed pretty well for Juromaru (that's right, Drummond hissed for Juromaru, DianaGohan). Naraku's latest incarnation may have been a throw-away villain, but I don't care.

*Hisses back at araxne* Technically I was referring to actual spoken dialogue. I mean, hissing is sound but it's not what voice actors are paid to do. It did sound pretty good though, I'll give Drummond that.

Wounded_Dragon

09-10-2003, 01:12 AM

Actually, the majority of what you'd find, strangely enough, is Kagome x Sesshoumaru fanfiction (where THAT pairing came from, I'm still trying to figure out, but it's almost more popular than anything canon. Scary). Still, the Kagura/Sesshoumaru relationship is hardly romantic. She just wants him as an ally so he'll kill Naraku for her, and he's too bloody apathetic to care. Pairing Fluffy with anyone just seems a little bizarre to me.

It's quite easy to understand really...the authors of those are interested in Sesshy, and they're using Kagome as their avatar.

Sampo

09-10-2003, 05:51 AM

http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Inuyasha/Sept9oop/JuromaruNKageromaru.jpg http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Inuyasha/Sept9oop/KagomeNKoga.jpg

Naraku's next set of adorable kids: Juromaru and Kageromaru. Koga admits his love once again to the bewildered Kagome.

LOL, the insults Koga and Inuyasha threw each other was fun watch. "Mut face" :D The battle between the four wasn't bad either. Kageromaru look screamed "Alien" to me, especially when he did that quick burst thorough Inuyasha's chest. Well except for the nasty blades and he talks. Man, this poor doggie keeps on getting ventilated in the chest/torso area by his opponents. Ouch :( It was nice to see Sango helping out during the battle with her poison powder.

Brian Drummond did a great job as Kageromaru!

Some other stuff that happened during this episode. We learn that Inuyasha's desire to protect Kagome helped him wield Tetsusaiga with ease. Also Inuyasha easily overheard Miroku's comments from a distance. So that means...

Arg, Kagome and Inuyasha (http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Inuyasha/Sept9oop/InuyashaNKagome.jpg) fight yet again... Doh.

Patches thanks for the cool "Ya stupid jackass!" sound file. :D

...
2. Inuyasha really needs to use his spare time devising some strategies against Sesshy between their battles. Sesshy already knows his moves inside-out. The only way for him to hit Sesshy is thru surprise, like when he first used Tetsaiga.
...

Aye blindly charging in while swinging Tetsusaiga like a meat cleaver will get him killed. Mut face needs some strategy.

Infinity Blade

09-10-2003, 10:48 AM

Actually, the majority of what you'd find, strangely enough, is Kagome x Sesshoumaru fanfiction (where THAT pairing came from, I'm still trying to figure out, but it's almost more popular than anything canon. Scary).

Ahh, someone else who, like me, hasn't been able to wrap their brain around that... Aye, it is quite odd. oO;;

Of course, I think the reason I haven't seen Kagura pop up in fanfics that much is because most people writing seem to be coming off the wave of fans from the AS version. So, they'll get to her eventually... in other words, someone else to be written horribly out of character. (Not to say there isn't ANY good IY fic, but it's damn hard to find.)

He doesn't really yell "Kaze no Kizu" in the Japanese version either. He just states, "I can see it. Kaze no Kizu!" and then swings the Tetsusaiga. As far as I can tell, whenever he yells "Tetsusaiga" in the English version, he yells "Tetsusaiga!" in the Japanese version. Considering how closely Viz is sticking to the script with these recent episodes, he should yell "Bakriyuha!" or some translation of it (whatever it might be) at the appropriate time.

Although maybe at this point, as I haven't seen anything from this area in Japanese, I know that he DOES start to yell "Kaze no Kizu!" as an attack name later on, though. ^^;;

Anyway... in terms of plot advancement, there seemed to be about... zero last night, though I suppose it's possible the end of it could carry tomorrow. Y'know, it'd be really nice sometime to see Kagome chew Inuyasha out about how he acts with Kouga's advances towards her, yet when Kikyo shows up... *sighs and shakes head* Well, no one ever claimed our sword-swinging hero to be brilliant. :p

Patches

09-10-2003, 12:30 PM

Of course, I think the reason I haven't seen Kagura pop up in fanfics that much is because most people writing seem to be coming off the wave of fans from the AS version. So, they'll get to her eventually... in other words, someone else to be written horribly out of character. (Not to say there isn't ANY good IY fic, but it's damn hard to find.)
For some reason, every couple of days I skim the first 25 Inuyasha entries on Fanfiction.net to determine how many of them even have the potential to be canon, based on their summaries alone. Strangely, the number is consistantly 2. Of course, upon actually reading those 2, the number typically drops even farther. The IY section seems particularly rampant with AU, which is a genre I like about as much as blatant self-insertion. I mean, I don't mind AU if it's a "what if?" scenerio like "What if the jewel never broke?" or "What if Kikyou was never resurrected?" or something that plays off changing ONE event in the series. But, no, instead we get stuff like "Inuyasha is a secret agent in New York!" or "The cast spends the night at my house!" or my personal favorite, "Inuyasha and the gang are all in high school!" I mean... what's the point? It's like writing a completely original story with completely original characters who just happen to have the same names as the Inuyasha cast.

/rant

Beat

09-10-2003, 12:47 PM

Inu's love for Kikyo is stupid, pointless, and should have been solved ten episodes ago when he should have run her through with Testigua for giving Naraku the sacred jewel and elevating him to near godlike status. She has offically beaten Prince Lotor in the "why the hell isn't this villian dead yet?" department.

As for today's ep, I need to go watch my VCR.

Infinity Blade

09-10-2003, 02:09 PM

For some reason, every couple of days I skim the first 25 Inuyasha entries on Fanfiction.net to determine how many of them even have the potential to be canon, based on their summaries alone. Strangely, the number is consistantly 2. Of course, upon actually reading those 2, the number typically drops even farther. The IY section seems particularly rampant with AU, which is a genre I like about as much as blatant self-insertion. I mean, I don't mind AU if it's a "what if?" scenerio like "What if the jewel never broke?" or "What if Kikyou was never resurrected?" or something that plays off changing ONE event in the series. But, no, instead we get stuff like "Inuyasha is a secret agent in New York!" or "The cast spends the night at my house!" or my personal favorite, "Inuyasha and the gang are all in high school!" I mean... what's the point? It's like writing a completely original story with completely original characters who just happen to have the same names as the Inuyasha cast.

/rant

Ahh, I definitely know where you're coming from there. :p I do the same myself for that section and constantly just wind up asking myself "Why?" Especially those AUs. I swear, if I see another High School fic, I'll screa-...

*screams*

...*ahem* Nothing wrong with an AU that tries to keep along the same line of what the series is, of course, but I've yet to see one that does.

Though I don't always think too much of my own writing, seeing what I do in Inuyasha fanfic has pushed me to try and develop a little series of my own. Of course, I actually plan to find out more about the area of the series I want to start from, first, which may take awhile...

...anyway. Now I'm starting to ramble... ^^;;

Amano Ginji

09-10-2003, 03:16 PM

What are they going to call the Bakuryuuha?

In the video game, it's translated as Dragon Twister.
:shrug:

Beat

09-10-2003, 03:17 PM

Episode review-

Another set of demons literally pulled out of Naraku met their end at the hands of Koga and Inu-Yasha, an odd team if there ever was one. Kagome's once again caught in the middle, doing little in the episode besides cheering on her suitor and Inu. The whole "I need to protect Kagome to wield Testigua" was stupid.

Tommorow, the return of the new champion of "Villian who can't just die!" Kikyo! What dog ears sees in psychob!tch from beyond the grave is beyond me.

Batsy

09-10-2003, 04:05 PM

:::sigh::: So much Kikyo hatin'. I think someone asked if there was anyone who liked her, I do. She's one of my favorite characters, along with Inu Yasha, Sango and Kagura. I understand why people don't like, but she is important.

Maybe some of you Kikyo haters could take a look at this http://www.merquise.net/kikyou/

I don't expect it to make you stop hating her, but maybe it can help explain why she acts the way she does. I'd be pretty damn pissed if I were her.

Oh, fan fiction. I've read so many crapy stories. There are some good ones though, but most of the stories on fanfiction.net kinda suck. You have to search around.

Michael

09-10-2003, 04:45 PM

pretty good epsiode, and it looks like Songo and the monk are hooking up lol

DuffMan102285

09-10-2003, 04:46 PM

Caffeine King

09-10-2003, 05:15 PM

Pustli0, i liked ur post. The lil' icon thingy next to your name. It's gay i know, but i like the chibi forms shown. It is cute and funny to look at. Like in dbz in the japanese ending for the mid-series or in the opening theme for yu yu hakusho.
Err..thanks? :sweat:

Anyways... :shrug:

Last night's episode was cool.

Koga (IMO,) is annoying. I hate it how he randomly comes back from nowhere. :shrug:

Shippo is annoying too. :p

Uh oh...Kikyo is back! :eek:

True Noir

09-10-2003, 05:37 PM

IF i was a inuyasha, my feelings would really get hurt if kegome was being nice to koga the one person that inuyasha hates and mean to me. Anyway koga was being a bigger jerk .Great episode.

Animation Otaku

09-10-2003, 05:38 PM

Death to Kikyou!!!!!

Nice episode, with the return of Kouga, and another incarnation of Naruk as well. But next episode we get the *****. :(

True Noir

09-10-2003, 05:40 PM

IF i was a inuyasha, my feelings would really get hurt if kegome was being nice to koga the one person that inuyasha hates and mean to me. Anyway koga was being a bigger jerk .Great episode.

Oh yeh i also like the big demon(i forgot his name) He was a cool incarnation of Naraku and i hope they called the Bakuuruyuha is still called the bakuruyuha but there probably gonna change that cause they changed the Kaza no kino. I really like the nihongo names better that the eigo ones

Is that what its called?Kaza no Kino?

Masamune2052

09-10-2003, 05:47 PM

Is that what its called?Kaza no Kino?
Kaze no Kizu.
Wind of Scar.
Scar of the Wind.

Or something to that extent.

Beat

09-10-2003, 05:51 PM

True Noir

09-10-2003, 05:55 PM

Kikyo is a really cool character. She is very powerful too. I likeness of her has gone down but i still like her.When she is sad it makes me cry. I am serious. It does. She is a sad and unhappy person. I feel sorry for her.

True Noir

09-10-2003, 05:57 PM

Kaze no Kizu.
Wind of Scar.
Scar of the Wind.

Or something to that extent.

I been really messing up on the nihongo name
Oh yeh now i remember the name Jeromaru. He is the best incarnation in my opinion.

Infinity Blade

09-10-2003, 06:12 PM

Personally, I don't hate Kikyo. She's selfish, but I can sort of understand why. She's trying to hold onto things that, in the end, she likely won't be able to. She doesn't have the ability to move on.

Kikyo has her proper place in the series, as she's the only thing providing difficulty in Inuyasha and Kagome having any sort of relationship. Even with all of their bickering, if Kikyo hadn't been revived, I think it's very possible something may have actually happened with them by now. Kouga isn't any real threat, it doesn't seem, and is more of a way to show how hypocritical Inuyasha is when it comes to his relationship with Kagome.

Of course, Kikyo being there and her actions also reflect well on Kagome. If Kikyo had never been revived, we never would have been able to see that she and Kagome are really two entirely different people. As well, if Kagome and Inuyasha ever DO wind up getting together, it lets us see that he hasn't fallen in love with her just because she's Kikyo's reincarnation.

I DO wish she would die, though. But not for any reason born out of hatred towards her. The only way for her soul to really find peace is to move on from the living world as it's supposed to do. Otherwise, she's just stuck in a world where she doesn't belong with things she cannot truly get.

As well, I don't think Inuyasha could really have a happy relationship with what Kikyo has become. As he himself has said, her body holds no warmth, and heck, she literally smells like death.

I'm REALLY hoping that Takahashi does allow her soul to move on and not pull some cop-out by fully reviving her. Of course, with no body and only ashes left of her remains, I doubt even Tenseiga could preform that task, so I hope there's not too much to worry about there...

Beat

09-10-2003, 06:19 PM

Infinity Blade

09-10-2003, 06:25 PM

If somehow they could have a bizzare crossover one shot through time and space, Prince Lotor and Kikyo should hook up. They're both evil, both obsessed with someone else (Kikyo-Inuyasha and Lotor-Allura), and both smell bad.

I don't believe that Kikyo is evil. Selfish and no longer the pure person she once was, but I don't think that she's truly evil. Yes, she tried to pull Inuyasha to hell and swiped Kagome's jewel shards only to give them to Naraku, but she's far too complex to just simply label her as "evil".

Luna

09-10-2003, 06:53 PM

I'm a female IY fan,and I don't hate Kikyo(though she's far from my fave character).....I feel sorry for her,actually.....she died believing the one she loved betrayed her,and didn't ask or want to be ressurected(she wouldn't have been if Inu-Yasha hadn't said her name at the wrong moment).....

Anyways,I liked last night's episode....I did think it was strange that Kagome was so worried about Inu-Yasha's injuries during the battle,yet afterward she "sits" him twice for fighting with Kouga....

Sanwich

09-10-2003, 06:54 PM

I DO wish she would die, though. But not for any reason born out of hatred towards her. The only way for her soul to really find peace is to move on from the living world as it's supposed to do. Otherwise, she's just stuck in a world where she doesn't belong with things she cannot truly get.

As well, I don't think Inuyasha could really have a happy relationship with what Kikyo has become. As he himself has said, her body holds no warmth, and heck, she literally smells like death.

Well said - my sentiments exactly. :>

...Though I can't help but feel pretty hateful toward her every so often - simply because she has a bad habit of showing up at the wrong moments, and essentially just annoying people a lot. c_c; In theory, I agree that she hasn't really done anything without a good reason... But sometimes I just want her to let it go, darnit. Dead is dead, even if you're reanimated in a clay body for a while. ;)

True Noir

09-10-2003, 08:26 PM

Well said - my sentiments exactly. :>

...Though I can't help but feel pretty hateful toward her every so often - simply because she has a bad habit of showing up at the wrong moments, and essentially just annoying people a lot. c_c; In theory, I agree that she hasn't really done anything without a good reason... But sometimes I just want her to let it go, darnit. Dead is dead, even if you're reanimated in a clay body for a while. ;)

I don't think I can ever try and feel hateful towards her. It's too hard for me to hate. Though, I do feel sorry for her.

Greek_Honeybee

09-10-2003, 09:44 PM

What really got to me about Kikyou was episode 23 where she tied Kagome to a tree, let Inuyasha gush about his feelings then she kissed him, knowing full well that Kagome was forced to watch. I don't care who it is, that was just wrong. Skin the girl alive and burn her at the stake, it would've been kinder.

Though I can sort of understand her attitude toward Kagome. Inuyasha might gush about Kikyou, but he spends all his time with Kagome. If Inuyasha loved Kikyou as much as Kagome thinks he does, then nothing would stop him from being with Kikyou all the time. He'd be out hunting for her instead of jewel shards and revenge. He's actually seems quite blase about not seeing Kikyou for weeks at a time, but throws a fit and gets depressed if he can't see Kagome every day.

No wonder Kikyou's pissed.

At the same time, I can also understand Inuyasha being in love with the both of them. The two girls share the same soul, though their hearts are individual. He can't be "soul mates" with one without loving the other just as much, right? They were never meant to exist at the same time and no man was ever meant to be placed in the situation he's in. As long as the past and the future are pulling him in opposite directions then he can't move between them.

*sigh* Still, these next two episodes are probably my least favorite of all. So depressing...

Roger Smith

09-10-2003, 09:49 PM

Seshy is more inteligent that inuyasha

DianaGohan

09-10-2003, 10:21 PM

"You really are a louse, Roger Smith" :D

Seriously no offense, but that seemed kinda out of place.

Ahh, I definitely know where you're coming from there. I do the same myself for that section and constantly just wind up asking myself "Why?" Especially those AUs. I swear, if I see another High School fic, I'll screa-...

True, but there one that tickeled my intrest: A Inuyasha/Homestarr Runner High school crossover fic, mainly because of the pure insanity of the idea. At least it's funny to picture in my head.

...Okay, I'm not on talk about being out of place.

Sampo

09-10-2003, 11:10 PM

I know this was discussed in the season two, week two thread, but maybe somebody can help me by now. I was wondering if anyone knew a place to get a picture of the first part of the new ending credits (has the theme "dearest") where it has the fall background and the camera slowly rises from Inuyasha sitting down to everybody else (the one where Kagome is standing with the wind blowing in her hair and her hands behind her back and looks absolutely stunning. I know it's animation, but I mean, still, that's just beautiful). Anyway, even if you know a place where I can just download the whole ending, that'd be alot of help.

*Hugs his ATI TV Wonder PCI Card (which hates XP with Nvida card)*

This picture? :D

Dearest Ending (http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Inuyasha/DearestEnding395X600.jpg)

Sorry for the kinda bad quality as I had to use VHS recording at SLP. Also not having access to a "textless ending" was a pain in the butt too. Paint Shop Pro 7 tools helped abit to clean it up though. I would have gotten more of Inuyasha into the picture, but the way it was animated it was hard and will require some fancy editing with mutt face and the background.

Batsy

09-10-2003, 11:14 PM

Even though Kikyo is one of my fav characters I still want her to die. I'd like her to rest in peace.

On another subject, some people come up with the strangest couples. Like:

Inu Yasha x Sango- I think not.

Kagome x Miroku- Yeah, right.

Sesshomaru x Rin- Kinda wrong.

Sesshomaru x Kikyo- Not going to happen.

Sesshomaru x Hell, Sesshomaru gets paired with everyone, even the guys.

Koga x Kagura- He kinda hates her.

Naraku x Kagura- :::shudders::: I'm not even going to go there.

Naraku x Kikyo- Ummm, no.

And a lot more I can't think of right now.

Patches

09-10-2003, 11:32 PM

On another subject, some people come up with the strangest couples. Like:

Inu Yasha x Sango- I think not.

Kagome x Miroku- Yeah, right.

Sesshomaru x Rin- Kinda wrong.

Sesshomaru x Kikyo- Not going to happen.

Sesshomaru x Hell, Sesshomaru gets paired with everyone, even the guys.

Koga x Kagura- He kinda hates her.

Naraku x Kagura- :::shudders::: I'm not even going to go there.

Naraku x Kikyo- Ummm, no.

And a lot more I can't think of right now.
Inuyasha x Miroku is a really popular doujinshi pairing, despite it making even less sense than most non-canon yaoi pairings. I mean... Miroku's whole purpose for being a lecher is to have someone bear his child, and sad to say, he's not going to get very far in that quest doing it with another guy. Sesshoumaru x Naraku is also kind of a common doujin yaoi pairing, which is just freaky considering yaoi standards tend to have a dominant guy and a submissive guy, and could you honestly see EITHER of those two in the latter role? I've also seen one that's Kagura x Kohaku, which is just... no.

I kinda like the Naraku x Kikyou pairing myself, mostly because... well... they deserve each other. :P

Yojimbo

09-10-2003, 11:39 PM

Koga sped out of the episode as quickly as he sped into it.The incarnations were cool but it irritates me when guys like Goshinki and the Maru's get killed in one battle and the galsare still kicking. But then again their deaths continue the storyline (Goshinki=Tokijin, (Maru's=Inuyasha wields the sword better)
Is the torment of Kikyo's afterlife stretched for a reason? I think she could be resolved sooner than keeping her around. I also do realize the bakuryuha won't show up for awhile (thnx masamune) due to clever media tactics.

Tienshin

09-11-2003, 12:30 AM

There is something about Kikyo. She is very cunning. Inuyasha's dead stare at Kagome will produce one of the most touching and sad moments of this series tomorrow night, of course..

*fangirls be warned*

Okay ep tonight. Heavy plot development and plot re-development. T'is ok, I guess.

DianaGohan

09-11-2003, 12:30 AM

The Reason People Hate Kikyo Number #6: "Onigumo's Heart Still Beats Within Naraku" Inuyasha Episode Review.

Odd to start a review with a spoiiler, but oh well.
According to the Episode Guide I found on TVtome, the latest episode shown was Farewell, My Beloved Kikyo in Japan, which I'm guessing is the episode that will end the Kikyo subplot. But that's 124 and this is 47, so for those who hate Kikyo: You got a wait before she dies.

This episode centers on an intresting plot point: The heart of the wretched human Omigumo, part of the villianous demon Naraku, still yearns for the undead Kikyo, so much that Naraku must destroy her if he wants to get full control over his full emotions. Which leads to a Soul Collector Demon chasing Kikyo, meeting up with Inuyasha who slays the demon and talks with Kikyo, who explains above plot point and insults mortal. Inuyasha promises to protect her, and wouldn't you know it, enter Kagome, who was enjoying her time in the present and overstayed when she went back to get medical herbs. And now: more conflict. A good episode, but it still feels a lot like a cross between episode 23 and 38 with a new plot twist. We'll see where this one goes. B+.

bojcroc

09-11-2003, 12:31 AM

I'm glad they are doing something with Kikyo finally. I still thinks she likes InuYasha though. She started to get into that hug.

Interesting that Kagome only changes clothes when she's at home. That sailor outfit must get smelly. I think they should change her clothes.

Another thing I noticed was that the moon is messed up. The way the crescent is shaped makes a new moon impossible. I guess it's just the style though.

Roger Smith

09-11-2003, 12:40 AM

hmmm does anyone know when we get more seshy?
cause i hate shows that makes episodes only for plot making

Arxane

09-11-2003, 12:45 AM

Inuyasha! Buddy! Pal! Come over here so I can knock some sense into you!

Seriously, a lot of people direct their hatred at Kikyo when they should be directing it towards Inuyasha's ineptness at relationships. This guy seriously doesn't know what the hell to do. He's jealously protective of Kagome and pouts when she leaves, but as soon as Kikyo comes around he has his arms all over her. Does he pity her? Does he wish to help her kill Naraku? Does he even still love her? All I know is that Inuyasha no longer considers Kagome Kikyo's incarnation (see manga), so what does Inuyasha see in Kikyo that still keeps him pining for her like this? Even Kikyo seems to think the relationship is over.

Poor Kagome. Watching Inuyasha and Kikyo share another intimate moment...and this time Kikyo didn't try to kill Inuyasha, so you couldn't step in and save his sorry ass. And now he's looking at you instead of turning away. What's going on? Is Inuyasha feeling guilty, or does he no longer have feelings for Kagome (wouldn't be surprised if she believes it's the latter)?

And Naraku...that bastard hates Onigumo so much that he cuts the flesh off his own back. Guess that's how snakes shed their skin (okay, bad analogy).

Not sure where the character development is heading here; hopefully tomorrow's episode can clear it up.

B+

Edit List:
Inuyasha and Kikyo, a love story *arxane gets slapped by Kagome*

None.

GWOtaku

09-11-2003, 12:49 AM

And now, presenting The blueprint for Inyu Yasha Season 2:

Step #1: Inyu Yasha and compnay travel around on a random excapade
Step #2: Kikyo or Koga show up, thus creating doubts on the part of either Inyu Yasha or Kagome about the other's feelings for him or her
Step #3: Kagome heads home for some pointless filler clips while Inyu Yasha frets over her despite the advice of the others
Step #4: Kagome comes back, things are patched up (tomorrow's ep or the one after should take care of this part once again)
Step #5: Repeat step 1, but this time insert flashbacks--preferably ones that play up the love triangle that's been played up 10,000 times before.

I know I'm generalzing a bit, but right now it seems like the show's getting into a vicious circle of redudancy. Hopefully they'll break the mold and something original will happen aside from the worn out cycle of angst with dashes of action thrown in.

Patches

09-11-2003, 12:50 AM

The Reason People Hate Kikyo Number #6: "Onigumo's Heart Still Beats Within Naraku" Inuyasha Episode Review.

Odd to start a review with a spoiiler, but oh well.
According to the Episode Guide I found on TVtome, the latest episode shown was Farewell, My Beloved Kikyo in Japan, which I'm guessing is the episode that will end the Kikyo subplot. But that's 124 and this is 47, so for those who hate Kikyo: You got a wait before she dies.
Actually, that one aired two weeks ago, but... meh. Also, no, it's unfortunately NOT the end of the Kikyou subplot, no matter how much the episode itself tries to tell you it is. It was darn good episode, regardless, but kind of anticlimactic if you've read the manga and already knew that it still wasn't the end of Kikyou. Noooo, she's still around, and her song's still the same. Argh.
As for today's episode, Kikyou gets molested by the granddaddy of all Shinidamachuu (maybe it was mad that she's been exploiting its children), and conveniently stumbles right into Inuyasha's arms. Inuyasha saves her, and she sticks a knife on him in thanks. Kagome witnesses the whole thing (but must've missed the knife part if she's still upset), and we're left with one of the more awkward moments in the series. Thank goodness for episode previews! And fansubs! And Naraku's Stalker Harpsichords(tm) that reappeared in this episode (honestly, you can always tell when the scene switches to Naraku even before you see him, because his theme always gives him away ^_^*).

Wounded_Dragon

09-11-2003, 01:38 AM

dilandu samma

09-11-2003, 02:02 AM

Didn't we already see this episode. Talk about recycled plot.

Ragging on Inuyasha is so old it's not funny. Especially since the blame is just as much Kagome's, yet she is not complained about at all. Even when she 'plays' Inuyasha in today's episode, keeping him waiting like that.

Not only that, but she's an incompetent player. Set your alarm clock, make preparations. Sheesh.

What the heck, Kikyo's sane again. I was happy when she pulled the dagger, made her seem at least a little crazy. Can't decide if we want her sane or not can we author?

Not to mention between the episode title and last episode's preview, you pretty much had the entire episode down. There wasn't even a "Eww, there's a Shippo in Kagome's hair" moment.

A solid C+. The only mitigating factor being no gratuitous flashbacks.

Ouch!!+ Doesn't sound like you enjoyed the episode very much! I on the other hand I did. Sorry, I'm a chick, I LOVE that I'm making him jealous stuff and girls walking in on things they shouldn't. It's like Fushi Yungi but not all horribly dragged out. You are right about the previews to the next episodes. I hate those. Like in DBZ all you had to watch was the preview and you didn't have to watch the next epiosde. But regardless, I can't wait for the next episode!

dilandu samma

09-11-2003, 02:05 AM

Yal

09-11-2003, 02:09 AM

I'm glad they are doing something with Kikyo finally. I still thinks she likes InuYasha though. She started to get into that hug.
Hah, she could have cut out what was left of his liver and sat down for lunch with Kageromaru, and half the audience would still be "Oh yeah, she wants him."

Speaking of which, why was Kaede talking about Juromaru and Kageromaru as if they were still alive?

Wounded_Dragon

09-11-2003, 03:18 AM

Ouch!!+ Doesn't sound like you enjoyed the episode very much! I on the other hand I did. Sorry, I'm a chick, I LOVE that I'm making him jealous stuff and girls walking in on things they shouldn't. It's like Fushi Yungi but not all horribly dragged out. You are right about the previews to the next episodes. I hate those. Like in DBZ all you had to watch was the preview and you didn't have to watch the next epiosde. But regardless, I can't wait for the next episode!

:mad: Me no like manipulative women. grunt grunt :sweat:

I can deal with such scenes, but only so many times. After a while, it just makes the characters seem stupid to me that they don't figure their feelings out. There's being a confused teen and then there's "It's so blindingly obvious that even the sightless can see it."

Ok, so you've admitted to being a female. Does it bother you that, so far, whenever something's blown up in Kagome and Inuyasha's relationship, no matter what, everyone from the Feudal Era blames Inuyasha? And Kagome, representing the 'wiser' modern era, does nothing to stop them, ever. What does that say about a woman's responsibility in a relationship?

I watched most've the episode in a foul mood as soon as I heard Kagome tell Shippo her plan. After all the life-saving going on, we still see them like this, playing each other? Or really, Kagome playing Inuyasha?

Sketch

09-11-2003, 04:34 AM

I just knew this was going to happen (again). When Kagome came out of the well and noticed the "lights" it was the ever present "no don't go over there Kagome, it's a bad time to be over there, no dang it, stop, ugh... you're hopeless".

Sampo

09-11-2003, 05:27 AM

http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Inuyasha/Sept10/KagomeShhhh.jpg http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Inuyasha/Sept10/embrace.jpg

While Kagome is away, the doggie finds a dead girlfriend to comfort...

Not much happens during this episode. Mostly recapping stuff from yesterday's show and going over the relationship of Kikyo and Inuyasha. NaRakU still harbors feelings for Kikyo... creapy. This dead girl has two guys lusting over her, yet she finds it amusing and uses this to her advantage.

Inuyasha is frigging stubborn. Geez, even after Kikyo pulls out a dagger (http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Inuyasha/Sept10/LoveHurts.jpg), he still doesn't get mad at her. Inuyasha is one messed up guy.

Tomorrows episode looks interesting as Kagome seems to had enough of Inuyasha & Kikyo.

...
Ragging on Inuyasha is so old it's not funny. Especially since the blame is just as much Kagome's, yet she is not complained about at all. Even when she 'plays' Inuyasha in today's episode, keeping him waiting like that.

Not only that, but she's an incompetent player. Set your alarm clock, make preparations. Sheesh.
...

Well, Kagome could blame Inuyasha for her oversleeping. She did have to buy a new alarm clock since he defeated her old one. :D I thought that scene when she was packing up her stuff was cute. Flustered Kagome threw in a corded hair dryer into her bag.

...
Speaking of which, why was Kaede talking about Juromaru and Kageromaru as if they were still alive?

Eh? I thought Kaede was warning the group about running into other incarnations of NaRakU.

If anyone is interested. This website, [remove link due to "cannot find server"] has the Intros and Endings Video clips of the Inuyasha series. Its in a foreign language and loads kinda slow. If the mods find this inappropriate, I will gladly remove the link.

Also here is a Bigger and Better picture (http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Inuyasha/Dearest411x768.jpg) from Dearest Ending. I was able to use ending clip from the above link to create it.

Sanwich

09-11-2003, 08:15 AM

Speaking of which, why was Kaede talking about Juromaru and Kageromaru as if they were still alive?

That's exactly what I was wondering... When they started talking about those two in the present tense, I had to scour my own memory to make sure I hadn't missed something yesterday - I was pretty sure they had been defeated... c_c

Something kind of ultimately irrelevant, but I found it sort of amusing that Inuyasha gets limbs broken and holes put through his chest... And yet both he and Kikyo seemed to be under the impression she could get away with threatening him with a teeny knife. ;) I know, it's probably more of a symbol of her feelings and such, or she could use her priestess powers to somehow make it more effective - it just seemed rather odd at the moment.

As for the overall episode... I was actually starting to not mind Kikyo so much at the beginning - probably because she was mostly running for her life, and actually seemed to be showing some emotions other than hatred. However, it started to go downhill when she reverted back to her old self, and Inuyasha became putty in her arms once again... Yeesh, did he not learn from last time? ;) I'm sort of left wondering what the heck Kikyo's intentions are now. I mean, her main goal doesn't seem to be the destruction of Inuyasha anymore... And she said something about the fact that Onigumo inside of Naraku presents her with an opportunity - though I don't see how that's a good thing for her, considering that's the very reason he's trying to get rid of her. o_o

Infinity Blade

09-11-2003, 10:25 AM

Inuyasha: "Geez, why the hell does Kagome get so mad?!" ...*sees Kikyou*
Inuyasha's Brain: *shuts off*

*sigh* Poor, poor Kagome... :(

...regardless, good episode.

And is it just mean, or did the animation & art seem extra crisp, bright, and colorful tonight? It looked especially nice last night.

Sanwich

09-11-2003, 11:23 AM

And is it just mean, or did the animation & art seem extra crisp, bright, and colorful tonight? It looked especially nice last night.

Replying to the same person two days in a row? *gasp*

I was actually about to edit my last post with a similar insight - the colors did seem extra bright, and I noticed a lot more variation in the 'cinematography', if you will... For one, there were a whole lot of bird's-eye views of the land, even when the mega-soul collector wasn't being shown. Unfortunately, I also winced at a couple animation-related things, especially Kikyo's unusually clunky horse ride. Maybe it was just me, but something about that action sequence seemed sub-par when compared to similar scenes in other episodes. o_o

Beat

09-11-2003, 12:31 PM

I've looked at the situation, and now it seems like Inuyasha's the true idiot. Kikyo's still a sadistic psychob!tch with more in common with Prince Lotor than Kagome, but Inu's the one buying into all of her bullcrap. I think that Kikyo is just trying to make Kagome miserable along with Inuyasha now.

Nftnat

09-11-2003, 12:35 PM

Unfinished business…
From Monday’s episode, actually, what Fluffy said was "Who do you take me for?", not "Who do you think I am?" And he said that before he grabbed Tokijin. Oh, and as to Totosai’s fire breath, if I may quote from Road Rovers: "How do you think he does that flame of fire?" "I just hope it has nothing to do with his digestive tract." But in Totosai’s case it well might; you go around swallowing animals whole, or whole animals, or both, and you’re going to get quite the case of heartburn.
From Tuesday’s episode, did anyone else think it took a turn toward the Twilight Zone toward the end? Shippou scolding Kagome as well as InuYasha? And Miroku and Sango walking off arm in arm? Well, he did save her life there. And combining their articles worked rather well. Hmm, his staff, her powder… and I’d better stop this before I start turning into Miroku; being a person of faith is as similar to him as I want to get.
Now, from Wednesday’s episode, a few thoughts that came to me while watching it.
Well, Shippou’s not dissing Kagome anymore; he’s pleading with her
Naraku's trying to convince himself; the demon doth protest too much, methinks.
"Something is devouring souls!" (...and for once, it's not me)
"I won't allow it!" (Those souls are mine!)
So the Marus, um, Maru-marus, no, the Muumuus, er, Mau Maus, wait, the Subarus, the Blues Magoos, oh, those things, they aren’t dead?
IY recognizes the giant soul collector? Wonder how many of those he’s seen?
"I'd NEVER let Naraku harm Kikyo." (at least, not after the last time)
Soul collectors, go to town
Now that that’s out of the way, I’m not exactly a fan of alternate romantic combinations, but I have seen stuff that could be interpreted into InuYasha-Sango. Early in the water god episode, Miroku spoke with Sango about InuYasha, at length, about his motivation for being so rough with her and stuff. And they do work well together. That said, though, I’m not in favor of that either. As to Sesshomaru-Rin, well, in 10 or 15 years, who knows? Why does he let her tag along?
Maybe Kagome has more than one sailor outfit.
Maybe it’s just me, but I’m not bored yet. This time when Kag catches Inu with Kikyo it’s, um, different, yeah, that’s it. Different. It’s not the same as the last time. As for Kag going home from time to time, well, she kind of has to now and then, doesn’t she? She shouldn’t just forget all about her family and friends and stay in the Feudal Era forever, should she? However much Inu might want that to happen, it’s not going to. So, instead of recycling (there goes the environmental demographic), what should happen? Should this whole thing be resolved in fewer episodes? 100? 50? 30? 10?
It does seem wrong that Inu always gets all the blame; if anyone doesn’t need it, he doesn’t. "…and it is always, ALWAYS, your fault! THAT’S how it is when you’re different" --- Jinenji, Kind Yet Sad.
It’s also wrong, those games people play. It wasn’t right of Kagome to tease Inu like that, to manipulate him. Folks talk of his double standard, what about hers? And both double standards do exist; maybe they cancel each other out. And I was kind of expecting more to come from Shippou having that secret; guess not.
I thought Kikyo finding it amusing was partly a re-seduction of Inu, and partly lassitude. In any event she was using him. Maybe she did seek him out when that huge soul collector was chasing her, knowing that he would protect her. And she engaged him in conversation with an end to extracting info from him, all the while taking in those souls. Nice to know the souls she consumes remain intact.
Now, as to Inu’s emotions, well, let’s see. He was born a half-breed, he lost both of his parents early in life, his only surviving relative wants to kill him, his last memory before being rendered unconscious was the one person since his mother who had ever been kind to him killing him, then he wakes up to some temperamental doppelganger of said person, finds that 50 years have gone by, in short order is introduced to a cast of crazies, most of which try to kill him at first, then the person who killed him but who he was in love with reappears and alternately seduces him / tries to take him to hell with her (talk about manipulative), no, I’d say he’s quite well adjusted with this situation, very well adjusted indeed. Is his mental spazzing any worse than that of any character you’d wish to name on, say, 90210, or Dawson’s Creek? How many of us keep making decisions that everyone around us can see from a mile off are wrong but that we won’t be dissuaded from? Can’t see the forest for the trees.

Wounded_Dragon

09-11-2003, 12:48 PM

Inuyasha is frigging stubborn. Geez, even after Kikyo pulls out a dagger, he still doesn't get mad at her. Inuyasha is one messed up guy.

Well, his relationship with his family doesn't seem that good. Refusing to admit caring for his mother. Dismissive of his father (I think, episode, foggy. Odd, with all the flashbacks..). He has a brother that sneers at him because of his blood.

After all that preparation, he goes out into the world, only to be discriminated against wherever he goes.

He comes across one woman that's different and falls in love. Then, due to Naraku's manipulations, he was betrayed (twice actually) by the one woman he fell in love with. He took that feeling with him when he slept for *50* years. 50 years with that image searing through his brain. The only thing keeping him sane would have to been the positive images of them, so those are probably seared across his brain as well.

Fast forward to the present. He feels like he should've protected her against Naraku, since he failed before. Unlike Kagome, Kikyo doesn't have a leash on him that she can use whenever she's feeling amused. Also, Inuyasha's 'friends' don't really harass him about Kikyo, but if something happens with Kagome, they're all over him.

This all adds up to why it seems reasonable.

Personally, I think dog-boy's being stupid, but Kagome and co. are equally stupid so I see no real reason to rag on Inuyasha, especially the others are 'supposed' to be smarter or wiser.

raykremer

09-11-2003, 01:32 PM

Kagome's got a bit of a double standard. Inuyasha gets jealous over her and Koga, she gets mad at him and goes back down the well. She gets jealous over Inuyasha and Kikyo, she goes back down the well.

Greek_Honeybee

09-11-2003, 02:19 PM

And she said something about the fact that Onigumo inside of Naraku presents her with an opportunity - though I don't see how that's a good thing for her, considering that's the very reason he's trying to get rid of her. o_oShe was able to get close enough to Inuyasha to pull a knife on him because his feelings for her still linger. She's counting on doing the same to Naraku. She was using Inuyasha as an example.

Compared to that, I don't see anything that horrible about what Kagome did at the beginning of the episode. She just wanted him to stop taking her for granted. (Then look what he goes and does. Although he probably would've done the same even if she was there the whole time.)

Michael

09-11-2003, 02:29 PM

decent epsiode, but Inuyasha can never get outta trouble eh?

PaQ

09-11-2003, 02:31 PM

Good episode. While Kagome's away , Inuyasha and Kikyo play.. :rolleyes: This love triangle is really turning weird, almost like a five sided triangle.(couldn't think of the 5 side one). :rolleyes:

Inuyasha likes Kagome but is too stubborn to admit it, but he still has feelings for Kikyo who not only tried to kill him, but is also practically dead and is living on souls.

Kagome is like a teenager who knows Inuyasha likes her but continues to perservere when Inuyasha acts stubborn and such, but she still does stupid stuff too like deciding to make Inuyasha worry that she won't come back and such.

Kikyo used to have a thing for Inuyasha but then Naraku did that betrayel thing and then she hated Inuyasha but now it's like all up in the air as to how she feels for Inuyasha.

Inuyasha is so freaking whipped! Then he has to contend with Naraku who's heart of Onigumo likes Kikyo, and with Koga who likes Kagome.. this guy is in for a long hard road ahead. :sweat:

Not to mention the likes of Miroku and Sango who ridicule Inuyasha all the time about these matters... :shrug:

I feel bad for Inuyasha.

Greek_Honeybee

09-11-2003, 02:56 PM

Let's see...

Koga -> Kagome <-> Inuyasha <-> Kikyo <- Onigumo/(Naraku)

It's more like a hexagram or something...

DuffMan102285

09-11-2003, 03:28 PM

*Hugs his ATI TV Wonder PCI Card (which hates XP with Nvida card)*

This picture? :D

Dearest Ending (http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Inuyasha/DearestEnding395X600.jpg)

Sorry for the kinda bad quality as I had to use VHS recording at SLP. Also not having access to a "textless ending" was a pain in the butt too. Paint Shop Pro 7 tools helped abit to clean it up though. I would have gotten more of Inuyasha into the picture, but the way it was animated it was hard and will require some fancy editing with mutt face and the background.

YES, that is it! Thanks alot Sampo :sweat: Good job with the whole editing thing too, I thought you got it off of the internet before I read the rest of the post.

Beat

09-11-2003, 04:09 PM

Is it just me, or is the show taking on a Melrose Place quality?

bojcroc

09-11-2003, 04:10 PM

It's episodes like these where Kagome gets mad and goes home that make me think that her voice really fits her.

HumanoidTyphoon

09-11-2003, 04:33 PM

Pentagon is 5 sides hexagram is a 6 pointed star...

For some reason I just don't seem to have the hatred for Kikyo most people here have. To be honest I'd say I probably like her more then Kagome.http://forums.toonzone.net/images/smilies/sweat.gif

I have to wonder what Naraku was doing in that scene was he just spawning another demon?

hmmm does anyone know when we get more seshy?
cause i hate shows that makes episodes only for plot makingHuh I'm not sure what you're saying here. You don't like shows that have a plot.http://forums.toonzone.net/images/smilies/confused.gif

LiquidXIR

09-11-2003, 04:58 PM

hexagon technically, not gram.

Good episode, looking forward to tonights.

Patches

09-11-2003, 04:58 PM

hmmm does anyone know when we get more seshy?
cause i hate shows that makes episodes only for plot making
Huh I'm not sure what you're saying here. You don't like shows that have a plot.http://forums.toonzone.net/images/smilies/confused.gif
A strange thing to say considering Fluffy tends to show up during major plot points (getting the Tetsusaiga, introduction of Naraku, Inuyasha learning the Wind Scar, Toukijin and broken Tetsusaiga, etc...). But to subdue your wondering, "Seshy" will be back on Wednesday, I believe. Though, if memory serves... he shows up for the sake of plot, not for the sake of ass-kicking. Ironic.

Beat

09-11-2003, 05:40 PM

Saw the ep. Jesus, Inu-Yasha's an idiot!! Why does he still love her? Is he anal? Does Kikyo secrete a pheremone that shuts off his brain? Is he dumber than George W? She's no longer the woman he loved, she's Prince Lotor with long hair and a bow. And she tried to kill him, yet again! If this keeps up, I don't know if I can watch the show. But at least Kagome watched it. Heh heh.

Greek_Honeybee

09-11-2003, 05:45 PM

Pentagon is 5 sides hexagram is a 6 pointed star...
hexagon technically, not gram.Ack! Sorry, brain fart... :sweat:

Masamune2052

09-11-2003, 05:49 PM

Whaaaaaaaaaat? Kagome finds Inu Yasha and Kikyou sharing a tender moment!?!?! Didn't see that coming...

True Noir

09-11-2003, 05:58 PM

Aww...!!! I feel so bad for Kegome. She always gets her feelings hurt. Awesome episode. Kikyo and Inuyasha meet up and share a moment. What a forceful hug.

lostrune

09-11-2003, 05:58 PM

Good episode. While Kagome's away , Inuyasha and Kikyo play.. :rolleyes: This love triangle is really turning weird, almost like a five sided triangle.(couldn't think of the 5 side one). :rolleyes:

It's called a pyramid! :D
(4 sides + 1 bottom)

Inuyasha is so freaking whipped! Then he has to contend with Naraku who's heart of Onigumo likes Kikyo, and with Koga who likes Kagome.. this guy is in for a long hard road ahead. :sweat:

*whoooooooooppissssshhhhhh* The sound of a whip cracking. :D

lostrune

09-11-2003, 06:05 PM

Is it just me, or is the show taking on a Melrose Place quality?

Anime teen romance quadrangles always take on a 90210, Melrose Place, Dawson's Creek, etc. :p

I have to wonder what Naraku was doing in that scene was he just spawning another demon?

He's trying to get rid of Onigumo's mark.

Aww...!!! I feel so bad for Kegome. She always gets her feelings hurt. Awesome episode. Kikyo and Inuyasha meet up and share a moment. What a forceful hug.

Yeah, she and Inuyasha should kiss and make out. :D :sweat:

True Noir

09-11-2003, 06:07 PM

hmmm does anyone know when we get more seshy?
cause i hate shows that makes episodes only for plot making

Oww my head hurts. Did this dood just say that he hated shows with plots? What a wierdo!

Tienshin

09-11-2003, 06:14 PM

Maybe its for the best that Dog Crap keeps running back to Kikyo, after all Inuyasha must be pushing 70 yrs old, and Kikyo is undead. Kagome should give that lovable loser Hojo a chance. Or just create a new love triangle by hitting on Miroku.

Sampo

09-11-2003, 06:26 PM

Well, his relationship with his family doesn't seem that good. Refusing to admit caring for his mother. Dismissive of his father (I think, episode, foggy. Odd, with all the flashbacks..). He has a brother that sneers at him because of his blood.

After all that preparation, he goes out into the world, only to be discriminated against wherever he goes.

He comes across one woman that's different and falls in love. Then, due to Naraku's manipulations, he was betrayed (twice actually) by the one woman he fell in love with. He took that feeling with him when he slept for *50* years. 50 years with that image searing through his brain. The only thing keeping him sane would have to been the positive images of them, so those are probably seared across his brain as well.

Fast forward to the present. He feels like he should've protected her against Naraku, since he failed before. Unlike Kagome, Kikyo doesn't have a leash on him that she can use whenever she's feeling amused. Also, Inuyasha's 'friends' don't really harass him about Kikyo, but if something happens with Kagome, they're all over him.

This all adds up to why it seems reasonable.

Personally, I think dog-boy's being stupid, but Kagome and co. are equally stupid so I see no real reason to rag on Inuyasha, especially the others are 'supposed' to be smarter or wiser.

Nice post :) Hmm, here's my comments/thoughts about this...

I whole hearty agree that this is why Inuyasha fell in love and still in love with Kikyo. But Inuyasha is too stuborn and dumb to realise that this reincarnated version is not the same person he fell in love with 50 years ago.

When Kikyo stole Kagome's shards of the Shikon jewel, Inuyasha was angry that Kikyo might have harmed Kagome. Yet Kikyo knew better and was mocking him, in Inuyasha's dream he said he would protect her. So Kikyo knew he wouldn't do anything to harm her to get the jewel back. Skip to this episode. Kikyo uses Inuyasha's love for her as a cold example of how she could get close to Naraku. This must have hurt Inuyasha's feelings. Also his demon side MUST have been screaming at him for allowing his guard down. Even though it was just a dagger, Inuyasha allowed that to happen due to his feelings towards Kikyo. IF that weapon was a "holy" type of weapon (similar to her arrows), I doubt Inuyasha would have survived that encounter if Kikyo wanted him dead.

I agree about everyone else needs a share of the blame. I guess tonights episode will address this matter with Kagome & Inuyasha.

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I have to wonder what Naraku was doing in that scene was he just spawning another demon?
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It appeared to me that NaRakU was trying to remove any reminder that Onigumo is still apart of him. He tried to sever his ties emotionally (killing Kikyo) and physically (Onigumo's scar). Although, both are in vain until he becomes a full demon.

Good episode. While Kagome's away , Inuyasha and Kikyo play..
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DOH!!! THAT was the line I wanted to use when I posted those images up in my previous post. Oh well.

Fata Morgana

09-11-2003, 07:09 PM

About the whole Kagome is a manipulator thing, I have to wonder if that's something that Takahashi actually included in the character or if it's something that was added by the writers for the show. Anime directors/writers tend to take Takahashi's characters and take liberties with them... especially the female characters that she writes. And that kind of manipulation isn't the kind of thing that Takahashi usually writes in her heroines. She'll write it into he heroine's rivals (such as Kikyo), but I can't recall a time previously when she's created a heroine like that. Of course, I haven't read that far into the manga (seeing as it hasn't been released in English yet) but I'll reserve my judgement on Kagome until I do.

I agree that there are some double standards between Kagome and Inuyasha that aren't right, but I don't think you can compare Koga's crush to Kikyo & Inuyasha's obvious relationship. It's clear that Kagome has no feelings for Koga, while it's equally clear that IY is at least *conflicted* in his feelings for Kikyo. It's the difference between seeing a person you like embracing an ex-lover, and seeing a person you like being flirted with. The first requires the person's participation, the second doesn't necessarily.

Fata Morgana

Nightfall

09-11-2003, 08:03 PM

All I have to say is while old dogears is being a little stubborn, it's understandable to some degre. But not enough for me as a more experienced adult to deal with. My hope is, regardless of what goes on in the manga, Inuyasha comes to realize that this isn't the same Kikyo. And my hope for that is someone explains it to him, in very HARD terms. And yes in that, I do blame to a small degree the rest of the group. If they REALLY care about any of their freinds they'd do their damnest to make them BOTH see what is obvious to billions of others. Inuyasha and Kagome are better together than apart. (Course that does eliminate character conflict but that's just my romantic side)

Btw interesting side note, thanks to all these dubs I'd done two fanfics...sort of. This only happens when I enjoy a show however. Much like I did with Buffy and Alias, I kind of did some "twists" involved. (Buffy I tossed in some d20 modern, same with Alias, (More shadow run deal however.), Angel was easier with just some D&D stuff. :))

But I digress...Anyone know if Inuyasha does indeed keep the demon bloodness under wraps? (Yes I have seen Eps 53 and 54 subbed.) What I'm asking is like is this now permanent or not. (Forgive my little spoilage, but I am curious...and I have trouble with board formatting. )

Patches

09-11-2003, 08:23 PM

But I digress...Anyone know if Inuyasha does indeed keep the demon bloodness under wraps? (Yes I have seen Eps 53 and 54 subbed.) What I'm asking is like is this now permanent or not. (Forgive my little spoilage, but I am curious...and I have trouble with board formatting. )
Yes, he gets it under wraps permanantly (unless you count Movie 2). I'm not terribly sure WHY this happens (just the fact that he masters Tetsusaiga does not change the fact that it no longer has a seal), but it happens.

Will Sturnick

09-11-2003, 08:32 PM

Yes, he gets it under wraps permanantly (unless you count Movie 2). I'm not terribly sure WHY this happens (just the fact that he masters Tetsusaiga does not change the fact that it no longer has a seal), but it happens.
I think it's Takahashi's way of saying, I'm sick of this sub-plot so lets move on.

HumanoidTyphoon

09-11-2003, 09:19 PM

He's trying to get rid of Onigumo's mark.It appeared to me that NaRakU was trying to remove any reminder that Onigumo is still apart of him. He tried to sever his ties emotionally (killing Kikyo) and physically (Onigumo's scar). Although, both are in vain until he becomes a full demon.Thats what I thought but the scar wasn't there at first then it suddenly appeared and he cut it. Which seems pretty stupid because that would just make another scar.http://forums.toonzone.net/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Greek_Honeybee

09-11-2003, 09:40 PM

I think it's Takahashi's way of saying, I'm sick of this sub-plot so lets move on.But it does still leave the sub-plot open. Supposedly, the only reason he's never gone full demon since mastering Tetsaiga's new weight is that he hasn't since lost it in dire circumstances. So she still could always write a scene where he transforms if she wants to.

The main point of the sub-plot is to help him realize his true strength, as Totosai mentioned, and that becoming full demon could actually be a weakness to him. It goes a long way to helping him accept who and what he is.

And the spider mark is the symbol of Onigumo. It appears when Onigumo's heart comes forth within Naraku. Almost like it's trying to take over. Therefore, he was trying to symbolically cut off Onigumo's feelings. Of course, it always comes back, but it constantly frustrates Naraku. That's what he wants the jewel for. This is all better explained in the manga. He was watching through Kanna's mirror as Inuyasha and Kikyo embraced. Onigumo became jealous and that's when the spider mark appeared on his back.

Coral Flowers

09-11-2003, 09:40 PM

I'll post my reviews later- Haven't seen last night's episode yet... :sweat:

Koga -> Kagome <-> Inuyasha <-> Kikyo <- Onigumo/(Naraku)
You can do this too: (Modern/Random)7th Grader-->Hojo>-- Kagome--><--Inuyasha<-> Kikyo <--Onigumo/Naraku.
And, throw Kouga and Ayame and, if you'd like, (though he might not count) Musou in there too. That's a nonagon, if both of them count. If only one counts, it's an octagon. :p
Edit: Put another person in the spoiler space..

Well, his relationship with his family doesn't seem that good. Refusing to admit caring for his mother. Dismissive of his father (I think, episode, foggy. Odd, with all the flashbacks..).
I don't think Inuyasha is dismissive towards his dad- He uses a rude term to refer to him (Oyaji, I think), but.. He doesn't exactly say he doesn't exist. He didn't know him very well, that's all. If his mother died when he was young, then his father probably died earlier than that.. He says he doesn't even remember him. He's probably somewhat grateful to him, as well. (For Tetusaiga.) Or maybe not. :p

... Sesshomaru x Kikyo- Not going to happen....
Koga x Kagura- He kinda hates her.
Sesshoumaru x Kikyo (http://www.geocities.com/sesshie_kikyou/hidden_hearts)- I don't like the pairing, but here's a site. :sweat:

On Kouga x Kagura- I actually like the pairing. :anime: I know that's it's not going to happen cannon-wise, though (It'd be weird if it did.. :sweat: ). Someone once explained that the whole relationship was based on the fact that they don't exactly ignore each other. *A premise* Kouga keeps coming after Kagura, to get revenge for his tribe (Normally, this is after Naraku's been killed.. By something. :p). After attacking each other so many times, they begin to like each other, and fall in love, the end.

I wonder if there's a Kagura x Sesshy fanfiction....
What am I talking about, there's always some fanfiction.
There's actually a site for the pairing- It's called Hypnotic Beauty, if I recall correctly. Seems like the site moved/is down, though.

Reason(s) why Kagura and Sesshoumaru get paired up- Kagura seems to like helping Sess (although she's hoping that Sess will kill Naraku for her, it can get changed around to both that, and that she somewhat likes him)

Also, Kagura comments on how he's a pretty man/something to that extent. And, a KagxSess fan once commented that he's not killed Kagura yet [She tried to bribe him, which I suppose could injure his pride (Like he's some sort of mecernary)]. And, he's taken her advice more than once- despite the fact she obviously works for Naraku. Although, he only took the advice once before she tries to bribe/pay him with shikon shards.. 'Course, he just might not be worried about her killing him.. :D

Problems- Kagura's fairly indepedent. Sesshoumaru seems to like having people around that follows his every whim. (Rin, and Jaken..) How long would Kagura last with 'following' Sesshomaru, and not being able to be inderpendent? 'Course, I can easily see how that could be 'accounted' for- Sesshoumaru loves her so much, he doesn't mind her being so independent. :sweat:

1. To get rid of Tokijin, why can't Miroku just suck it into his void?
He has sucked demons before, an