Rurouni Kenshin "A Duel With An Extreme Moment" Talkback(Spoilers)

[All-Star 1.5]

In last week's episode of Rurouni Kenshin; Sojuro was one step away from his ultimate attack and he was coming from all sides can Kenshin survive or will he be able t pull out another miracle??? You could just by the uncut DVD's or you could use the cheaper way of...

Find out on tonight's episode of Ruroni Kenshin which now has a new time 11:00 thanks to BS&P. :D

[DarthNuriko]

Is that Eastern time and I assume it's 10 Central?

[jeffrey 228]

Eastern time, yes, and I have Satlight that only carries Cartoon network East coast, wich is good if I do not want to see it late in my time zone.

[Jaguar]

10 o'clock.

It's official. CN is trying to kill Kenshin's audience.

[Sketch]

No actually, what they are trying to do is keep the censors from knowing it's still there. WS really wants Kenshin on US CN so they are trying everything to make sure that the censors don't pull the plug entirely.

[All-Star 1.5]

10 o'clock.

It's official. CN is trying to kill Kenshin's audience.

Nope it's just the BS&P feel that RK is too racy for the 9:30 audienece so that moved to laer at night. So blame them not CN.

[Jaguar]

Okay.

CURSE YOU, STANDARDS AND PRACTICES. I HOPE YOU ROT IN THE AFTERLIFE.

[SNS]

Why is everyone annoyed over the show being at 11PM? (.hack//SIGN is at 12AM & no one complains)

[DarthNuriko]

What does BS&P stand for again?

EDIT: Well standards and practices, I guess, but what about the B?

[sl4]

What does BS&P stand for again?

EDIT: Well standards and practices, I guess, but what about the B?

Bull...er, broadcast. Wait, is it 'Broadcast', or is it 'Bureau of'?

o_o

[MrBananagrabber]

Why is everyone annoyed over the show being at 11PM? (.hack//SIGN is at 12AM & no one complains)

I think it's more annoying that Kenshin's random schedule changes weren't advertised until AFTER the change. Had I not visited this board, I'd have no idea where Kenshin went. The fact that they haven't advertised the change to 11 PM (or at least not often) really does make it seem like they don't want people to watch the show.

I wonder if it'll ever return to Toonami, or get anywhere past the Kyoto Arc? I'm not expecting the Christian Arc to air at all, though.

[Mugen]

Bull...er, broadcast. Wait, is it 'Broadcast', or is it 'Bureau of'?

o_o

The second one.

[Dogasu]

The final part of the Sojirou battle airs tonight. Let's hope that everyone who wants to see it knows about the timeslot change.

It's official. CN is trying to kill Kenshin's audience

Um...yeah :rolleyes:

It seems to me that CN really REALLY wants Rurouni Kenshin to work. And to do that, they've decided that airing a show that pushes the limits of TV-Y7 after the super kid-friendly "Teen Titans" wasn't the way to do that. So they moved it to a later time.

What's the big deal anyway? It's not like any of you have school tomorrow or anything.

[Anime Guy]

Bull...er, broadcast. Wait, is it 'Broadcast', or is it 'Bureau of'?

o_o

Yeah, they are full of ****, aren't they?

[ClockStomper]

The lack of advertising the time changes suck. Last time they waited three weeks to advertise that it had moved to SVES, now no notification that they're moving it further into the night. I feel sorry for the kids who watched it and have assumed it's been cancelled or "temporarily bumped".

I guess I'm glad it's on at all, but now all it will be is a "cult" show.

[Mugen]

Yeah, they are full of ****, aren't they?

Gotta love editing posts. Oh yeah, Kenshin is on.

[Jaguar]

Well, it's note time:

1) Finally Kenshin whoops Sojirou's arse and we get to see the terrible snipping of the legendary Shishio battle.

2) Wee! Look at the black bars.

3) Stephen Jay Blum seems to be getting really accustomed to being Shishio. He sounded a lot stronger than usual when he really just sounds like "that guy that does Roger and Spike".

4) And the episode's ending (Shishio laughing and then showing a flame burning) showed the symbolization of the passion for them both to--WAIT A MINUTE DID THEY SAY DBZ WAS NEXT?! :eek:

Jaggy's Rating: B+

[Animation Otaku]

Wow, great episode. Soujirou left Shishio, but gave him the weakness to the Amakakeru ryu no Hirameki in the process. And Saitou's just been using Kenshin and Sanosuke as distractions this whole time. I'm glad we actually saw what he was up too, and now we know why he took his time.

[ShanNAblah]

The clock is counting down brothers and sisters.....

counting down to Amargedon.....

oh and A+ episode

[zmanjz]

I love Kenshin.

he is DA MAN.

I mean not only does he hold beautiful beliefs, but he is willing to risk his life for them.

There are so many different themes in this series.

Love: both beautiful, and in some cases twisted. (you'll see)

Hate: Unnecessary, and an impediment to that which is good.

Anger: A powerful driving force. The physical opposite of sadness. you can not truly be both sad and angry (Neurologicly speaking).

Sadness: an equally powerful driving force, yet one that is far more forgiving to it's focus.

Pain: Those who obtain power are exposed to it's side effect. Whether you obtain power to fight for good, or to fight for yourself, fighting brings pain. and you can either harden yourself against the sensations and lose that part of yourself, or retain your humanity but open yourself to feeling the pain at it's fullest.

Humor: the ultimate reward for Kenshin's refusal to become numb. He has the opportunity to enjoy life and all it's hilarity.

It's Ironic yet true that the people who represent that which is the best of us often experience that which is the worst.

Man... watching Kenshin gets me way too introspective.

well... at least DBZ is up next. DBZ = (More Fun + less thinking)

[raykremer]

Heh. Kenshin didn't just defeat Soujirou, he redeemed him. Nice.

Continued from last week since we shouldn't keep old talkback threads going that long:
And to top it off, there's no point having the show on if it's edited beyond understanding. I stopped watching Kenshin on Toonami when I saw the first Kyoto arc edit list.
See, this is just what I'm talking about. There is nothing in CN's run of Kenshin that has been "beyond understanding". You're all just up on your high horses thinking how much better you are than those of us who are watching Kenshin on CN and enjoying it just fine. I bet you can't stand it. Guess what. The world doesn't revolve around unedited anime. Stop telling me what I should and shouldn't watch on CN based on your lack of ability to face the reality that some things must be edited.

[Jaguar]

See, this is just what I'm talking about. There is nothing in CN's run of Kenshin that has been "beyond understanding". You're all just up on your high horses thinking how much better you are than those of us who are watching Kenshin on CN and enjoying it just fine. I bet you can't stand it. Guess what. The world doesn't revolve around unedited anime. Stop telling me what I should and shouldn't watch on CN based on your lack of ability to face the reality that some things must be edited.

Duly noted, but to the point where the screen looks all fugly?

[zmanjz]

You're all just up on your high horses thinking how much better you are than those of us who are watching Kenshin on CN and enjoying it just fine.

Actually, I have the entire series on dvd, and they've really only edited out the blood and "faces of horror" while it all goes to the full feeling of the show, it's still EXTREMELY enjoyable even with the edits.

Personally, I'm for anime getting on TV in any form. the more anime on american TV, the more money it makes, and the more money gets re-invested in it. thereby allowing more goodstuff to be made.

I mean look at Big O. If CN hadn't aired their edited version, we wouldn't be getting Big O2. (available unedited on dvd if you want it.)

also, the more anime that BS&P is exposed to, the more they will acclimate to it, and over time less and less will get edited.

SO... I say that CN and Williams Street rules (don't mention thatthat WS isn't directly involved with SVES, but they did the editing (back when it was for toonami).

I also agree with raykremer that people should spend a little less time arguing about how DVD > CN, and more time talking about the actual series.

(But I should have just saved myself the 3 minutes this took to type up, because as with all advice to quote my mom, "the wise don't need it and the dumb don't heed it.")

[Nimbleness]

A very good episode as usual, but one episode a week is driving me insane. Oh well I'll get over it sooner or later. Especially since the next arc which I hear isn't very good is approaching.

[G1Ravage]

Williams Street is amazing. That digital toothpick Saito was holding looked great, and WS even managed to cover up the close-up motion of Saito putting his hand to his mouth to smoke it. They really are that good.

As far as edits go, there were very few. Even that shot of Sojiro standing over the dead bodies of his family, which was completely cut from the last episode, was left in this time, and the first shots even had the puddles of blood around the bodies.

As always, here's the preview for next week's episode:

"When was the beginning of this battle? Was it that day, when the two of them became manslayers? The legendary swordsmen of the revolution collide, and everything else fades away!

Next time: Two Men at the End of an Era: Shishio Versus Kenshin, Final Battle. You won't want to miss it!"

[Guest]

While you may think it's purely good that TV boardcast is always good for expanding anime in here, you'll also have to accept the consequences that will come with it in the long run: MAINSTREAMISM. I'm sure many of you hate or will hate mainstreamism on anime while others will love it. For those who have analyzed the progressism of the video game industry over the years will understand the goods and bads that mainstreamism has brought into the VG industry. Similar effects will happen on the anime industry. You seen bits and pieces of mainstreamism on anime--such as DBZ and mutilated shows by 4Kids and Fox--but wait until it is full-blown mainstream. Integrity will come at a cost for exposure. That is more people involved will require a greater amount of compromise.

[zmanjz]

you'll also have to accept the consequences that will come with it in the long run:

Darn... a guest. (probably a member that doesn't want to speak under their real username)
well, normally I'd confine something off topic to a PM, but in this case:


The flaw with your reasoning is that you don't allow for the adaptation of "what is mainstream" I see it as good if Rurouni Kenshin becomes considered to be mainstream because by it's entry it alters the definition of what mainstream is.

I love much of what composes Japanese popular culture (well... not everything... but no one loves everything)

If our mainstream incorporates more anime, I can only see that as an improvement.

If our mainstream begins to see quality as a good thing, that is also an improvement.

granted, it is possible that "mainstreaming" may have a detrimental effect on anime. however, I doubt that. I do believe that there may be more series created with ready merchandising (not always a good thing) however, I can deal with it.

Overall I have to believe in the adaptability of american culture to assimilate anime into the mainstream.

at the very least, the mainstream will be better for it.

Otherwise, it's up to people like us to get into positions where we can choose as much quality as possible. (If it wasn't for the people at Williams Street, people like me wouldn't even know what anime was. (An Anime Fan since Gundam Wing Uncut, December 1998.)

[Jaguar]

I've always looked up to you zmanjz. Now...You are the king of awesomeness.

I am Not Worthy.

[purplehairedwonder]

to quote my mom, "the wise don't need it and the dumb don't heed it.")

LOL! I like that. *writes it down*:D

*coughcough* So yeah, back to Kenshin. I really love this show. So Kenshin finally beat Soujiro, and Soujiro left Shishio to find out the real truths in life for himself. But he gave the secret of the Amakakeru ryu no Hirameki (I just love saying that:p). I got a little creeped out when Shishio shattered the sword with his bare hand:sweat: And we finally see what's up with Saito. I was wonering where he was. And so he's really just using Sano and Kenshin as diversions for his own plan. And we got to see Aoshi again as well. This was an A+ episode, for sure.

I really hate waiting an entire week for new episodes. It drives me nuts!:( Oh well. I really love this show:D

[SNS]

Darn... a guest.

It's not a guest, he just put his user name as "guest".

[PaQ]

Wow. Pretty good episode.. Kenshin showed Soujiro who's da man. :p Even after beating him , Kenshin acts all Noble and stuff about being right and wrong. Now off to fight Sishio.. I hope Sanosuke gets some action.. :D

[Guest]

See Initial D DVD release: the effects of Tokyopop aimming for mainstream.

There is no flaw in what I stated. Maybe a flaw in your understanding.

[Spidey2099]

Yay, I can talk about this now (I'm not going to buy another DVD ever again--I can't talk about it until the episode actually airs on CN. :( ) But anyway, from what I gathered, Saito's plan this whole time was to gather information about Shishio's base of operations for Japan's central government? His explanation seemed a little convuluted, but that seems to be what he was saying.

Now I can talk more about Soujiro's fight with Kenshin. I would have liked them to have stretched out the fight by just one more episode so that we could have seen Soujiro's full power. The series was building him up as this unstoppable warrior, but in actuality, all Kenshin had to do was stand there for Soujiro to become intimidated.

I understand Soujiro smiled all the time because he was abused as a child, but as time progressed his "lack of emotion" was redirected as a tool against his opponents. That means he's built himself up over the years, becoming quite invulnerable.

The first episode should have been Soujiro building up to his Skukuchi attack(sp?), then the second episode should have been Soujiro having the upper hand, and at the end of that episode have Soujiro let something slip about his past to Kenshin. Then that would leave the third episode to talk about Soujiro's past, then the fourth episode be about Kenshin bringing him back to the light.

With only three episodes to cover the whole fight, it seemed somewhat rushed, and made Soujiro look too unstable, so much so that he couldn't fight. If he was so easily defeated, how did he survive in battle all these years? Extending the scene more would have also given more substance to Kenshin's beliefs, and would have shown how strong his character actually is.

Now, about the shedule move to 11:00. I thought I had read that it would be moved to 11:30 intead, so I almost missed it. Which got me to thinking: this show needs to be on for an hour. That way the Kyoto arc will be sped up by two episodes a week, and I can finally get caught up after watching that friggin' DVD! (not that the next episode isn't one of my favorite episodes.) And also, CN can tiptoe past BS&P by quickly moving Kenshin out of SVES and back to Toonami, assuming that the next arc is tame, right? Isn't the next arc just filler?

Anyway, if that's not the case, then Kenshin should be on from 11:00 to 12:00, thereby speeding up the series, making both the fans and censors happy. (See, we can all get along!) :D [tosses flowers everywhere]

[ClockStomper]

Heh. Kenshin didn't just defeat Soujirou, he redeemed him. Nice.

Continued from last week since we shouldn't keep old talkback threads going that long:

See, this is just what I'm talking about. There is nothing in CN's run of Kenshin that has been "beyond understanding". You're all just up on your high horses thinking how much better you are than those of us who are watching Kenshin on CN and enjoying it just fine. I bet you can't stand it. Guess what. The world doesn't revolve around unedited anime. Stop telling me what I should and shouldn't watch on CN based on your lack of ability to face the reality that some things must be edited.

Wow, big over-generalization. I guess I must be part of the evil conspiracy since I think the way Funi edits BG is bull **** (Funi executive "We can't show a punch to the gut! That's a TV-Y7 thing!") :rolleyes:

My own thought has been that Kenshin is pretty well edited aside from a few stupid things (floating impaled on an invisible sword) but that got it shoved from time slot to time slot. I doubt we'll see a Y7 series edited this lightly ever again.

AND I doubt WS will try for great anime like this one for Toonami again (sorry to those with futile Escaflowne hopes.) They'll probably stick to Power Puff Gundam from now on. Too bad, they did a great job.

[Tapout]

Now, about the shedule move to 11:00. I thought I had read that it would be moved to 11:30 intead, so I almost missed it. Which got me to thinking: this show needs to be on for an hour. That way the Kyoto arc will be sped up by two episodes a week, and I can finally get caught up after watching that friggin' DVD! (not that the next episode isn't one of my favorite episodes.) And also, CN can tiptoe past BS&P by quickly moving Kenshin out of SVES and back to Toonami, assuming that the next arc is tame, right? Isn't the next arc just filler?

Anyway, if that's not the case, then Kenshin should be on from 11:00 to 12:00, thereby speeding up the series, making both the fans and censors happy. (See, we can all get along!) :D [tosses flowers everywhere]

I don't remember if it's the next one or the one right after, but it's not exactly what I would call tame. Not quite as violent as Kyoto, but about five times as controvercial. After that it's pretty much smooth sailing though.

[TsuiTsui]

I thought this episode was a great conclusion to the battle between Soujiro and Kenshin. During these past few episodes, I was touched from learning about Soujiro's past and the path he was led to become an emotionless swordsman. When the battle between them was finished, I thought Kenshin's statements to Soujiro were also pretty moving.

I am very anxious to see Kenshin's upcoming battle with Shishio next week! :anime:

[Killtacular]

CN is stopping at the end of the Kyoto Arc.

[Dogasu]

While you may think it's purely good that TV boardcast is always good for expanding anime in here, you'll also have to accept the consequences that will come with it in the long run: MAINSTREAMISM. I'm sure many of you hate or will hate mainstreamism on anime while others will love it. For those who have analyzed the progressism of the video game industry over the years will understand the goods and bads that mainstreamism has brought into the VG industry. Similar effects will happen on the anime industry. You seen bits and pieces of mainstreamism on anime--such as DBZ and mutilated shows by 4Kids and Fox--but wait until it is full-blown mainstream. Integrity will come at a cost for exposure. That is more people involved will require a greater amount of compromise.

Having been a fan of anime for a while now (since around 1995) I've been through the "non-mainstream" period, and let me tell you--it sucked. Back then, we didn't have half the selection that people have now, and what WAS available was pretty mainstream in its own right--nothing as unappealing to the mainstream as FLCL or Marmalade Boy would have even been considered for release. You think anime now is expensive? How about paying $30 for two subtitled episodes of Ranma 1/2? We didn't have those nicely-priced boxsets that have saved fans hundreds and hundreds of dollars, nosiree. Besides that, all the anime we had on TV was DBZ and Sailor Moon--it wasn't until Gundam Wing that we actually got *decent* dubs on television. Dubbing companies have gotten better, and while there are plenty of bad dubs out there (i.e. Evangelion, Slayers, just about any Viz title) there are also a number of good dubs to balance it all out. People watching DiC's dub of Saint Seiya right now are being reminded of a time when, not too long ago, anime dubs sucked and the thought of airing anime even remotely uncensored was laughable.

See Initial D DVD release: the effects of Tokyopop aimming for mainstream.

There is no flaw in what I stated. Maybe a flaw in your understanding.

TokyoPop is the DiC of modern-day times, and there is no one out there who agrees with what they're doing to Initial D. But even then, the subbed track on the DVD's is supposed to be uncut, so they can put out the worst dub in the world for all I care as long as they give fans the option of watching it uncut.

Shoot, I remember not even having the option of an uncut, bilingual DVD back in the day, but now it's pretty much an industry standard. We're much better off now than we were before anime was mainstream. MUCH better off.

[Will Sturnick]

CN is stopping at the end of the Kyoto Arc.

Not surprising. So will ever the Meiji arc air?

[Joe Mama]

Not surprising. So will ever the Meiji arc air?Maby it'll go back to Toonami, or possibly adult swim?

[Obi]

Maby it'll go back to Toonami, or possibly adult swim?

Toonami, most likely. Or back to the 9:30 timeslot.


The third arc is supposed to be more like the first then the Kyoto Arc, so it will probably be able to air on Toonami. I mean, it's got to go SOMEWHERE. They bought all 95 episodes, they aren't going to not air the other 30 something.

[Joe Mama]

Toonami, most likely. Or back to the 9:30 timeslot.


The third arc is supposed to be more like the first then the Kyoto Arc, so it will probably be able to air on Toonami. I mean, it's got to go SOMEWHERE. They bought all 95 episodes, they aren't going to not air the other 30 something.Well then if they already bought all the episodes, and the third Arc is like the first one, then it should go back to Toonami, which is good because I'm getting tired of waiting a week for one ep.

[HumanoidTyphoon]

Williams Street is amazing. That digital toothpick Saito was holding looked great, and WS even managed to cover up the close-up motion of Saito putting his hand to his mouth to smoke it. They really are that good.Did they also add the sound of it hitting the ground? I wouldn't think that a cigarette would sound like that when it hits the ground.:shrug:

The Soujirou fight comes to a close and wow was it good.:eek: When Soujirou was freaking out great stuff there. I didn't expect him to give out Kenshin's secret to the Amakakeru ryu no Hirameki. By the way anyone know what that translates to? We got to see Saito again:) but only briefly it's still cool to see what he's up to though. Also I have to mention when Sano busted down the door and Yumi was standing there definite LOL moment.:anime:

[Dogasu]

I just thought of a question...

When Kenshi and Sanosuke are walking toward Shishio's hideout, we see Sanosuke thinking about not letting Kenshin die and helping him out if he needs it. Then we see some metal, gun-looking thing fall from underneath his sleeve (well, that's what it looked like to me).

So if that wasn't a gun, what WAS it that Sanosuke had hidden under his sleeves?

[hardway35]

When Kenshi and Sanosuke are walking toward Shishio's hideout, we see Sanosuke thinking about not letting Kenshin die and helping him out if he needs it. Then we see some metal, gun-looking thing fall from underneath his sleeve (well, that's what it looked like to me).

So if that wasn't a gun, what WAS it that Sanosuke had hidden under his sleeves?
That was not Sanosuke with the gun it was the Shishio's lacky, I am not sure what his name was. Sano, however, was talking about useing his strongest punch to level the place if it looked like Kenshin was close to death.

[KrazyKid]

Why is everyone annoyed over the show being at 11PM? (.hack//SIGN is at 12AM & no one complains)

because now we have to stay up even later to watch crap shows until 11. And a lot of ppl that watch kenshin dont even no about .hack//SIGN because it was never on toonami to get ppl hooked. it was there for ppl that mostly already stay up late.

[Jaguar]

CN is stopping at the end of the Kyoto Arc.
THE HELL?!

There is no flaw in what I stated. Maybe a flaw in your understanding.

Someone's on their high horse.

[William C. Maune]

"Originally Posted by Matt Wilson
CN is stopping at the end of the Kyoto Arc."

"THE HELL?!"

I can't say this is all that unexpected, they stopped at the end of the Tokyo arc also. Give it time.

[Mackenzie Rainelle]

"Whoa" moment: Soujirou's breakdown. Between staring wide-eyed at him screaming and clutching his head, and cringing when he started beating his head against the floor (presumably to clear it...I've seen people smack themselves to get a thought out of their heads or beat them against a wall, so why not a floor?), that was just......geez......

[Jaguar]

A thousand apologies, everyone! I misunderstood what Matt said. I thought that they were going to stop entirely after the Kyoto arc but after reading Will and Obi's posts, I see I was wrong. My mistake.

So are they just gonna stop or will there be reruns?

[Animation Otaku]

because now we have to stay up even later to watch crap shows until 11. And a lot of ppl that watch kenshin dont even no about .hack//SIGN because it was never on toonami to get ppl hooked. it was there for ppl that mostly already stay up late.

.hack//SIGN was on Toonami for 4 weeks.

[Beat]

I cry. (Well, not really)

Cartoon Network made a serious mistake not putting Kenshin on Adult Swim, and now they pay the price with heavy edits that confuse and alienate viewers.

[ClockStomper]

No. I think the lesson to be learned here is just because something CAN be edited for Toonami, dosen't mean it will work there. WS does a pretty good job preserving the story for the most part, but it's looser standards on editing is what gets the show pushed away from it's main Toonami audience and has it's scheduled timeslot changed without warning.

I doubt WS will try anything like Kenshin for Toonami again. And I doubt the BS&P will let it back on Toonami. Too bad, Kenshin was the best show Toonami ever had.

CN is stopping at the end of the Kyoto Arc.

As in, they won't be airing any new episodes after that?

Not surprised. tip of the hat to you WS, it was a bold move that didn't work out.

[Mugen]

As in, they won't be airing any new episodes after that?

Not surprised. tip of the hat to you WS, it was a bold move that didn't work out.

I think he meant they're stopping at the end of Kyoto Arc then later on, going to air the next arc.

[KrazyKid]

.hack//SIGN was on Toonami for 4 weeks.

:confused: ok well sorry i never saw that so my bad i still wish kenshin was on regular :sweat:

[Flying Grayson]

:confused: I don't think I completely heard Saito's true plan. I heard of him being a spy for the goverment inside the police, using Kenshin and Sano as distractions, and him looking around the manision for some reason. I guess my mind wandered to whether Aoshi would play a part in the fight with Shishio and the amazment of sudden appearence of Saito.

could someone help me and explain it? please

[lostrune]

1. The secret to Mitsurugi's ultimate technique - the left leg strike. It's dangerous because once you draw the sword from the left hip and swing it from the ground upward with godlike speed, you may hit your protruding left leg. :D

2. It's revealed that, while Shishio does work as a policeman, it's truly just a cover for being a spy for the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

3. After his talk with Saito, Aoshi wondered what would've happened if the Shinsengumi and Oniwabanshu met each other back in the civil war (since they're on the same side, meaning spar against each other). Then Aoshi mentioned it's time to fight. Do you think Aoshi could win against Saito? (Don't bother with spoilers; I've seen it. :D )

4. There's a reason Yumi seemed worried about Shishio fighting Kenshin and why she gave Kenshin an option to back out - and it's a reason you may not expect. Remember her sad face when she was walking looking at her watch leading Kenshin to the arena.
4b. Yumi looked even better in this episode than in the hots springs. :sweat:

5. Soujiro is a raw gem, rough around the edges. He's basically all speed and hardly any style or discipline in his swordmanship, save for battoujoutsu. But he's a sword genius (a tenken, I believe) and already faster than Kenshin. If ever he learns some swordstyle, watch out. :D

As far as edits go, there were very few. Even that shot of Sojiro standing over the dead bodies of his family, which was completely cut from the last episode, was left in this time, and the first shots even had the puddles of blood around the bodies.

Maybe that's why it got moved to 11pm EST at this point. :shrug:

[Artemis]

"Whoa" moment: Soujirou's breakdown. Between staring wide-eyed at him screaming and clutching his head, and cringing when he started beating his head against the floor (presumably to clear it...I've seen people smack themselves to get a thought out of their heads or beat them against a wall, so why not a floor?), that was just......geez......


My thoughts exactly.

It sucks that RK is stopping after the Kyoto Arc. I still say the should've made the Kyoto Arc a special presentation on Adult Swim. They could air the other seasons on Toonami. But that would mean they'd have to share a show and I hear talk that's not good for business.

[lostrune]

:confused: I don't think I completely heard Saito's true plan. I heard of him being a spy for the goverment inside the police, using Kenshin and Sano as distractions, and him looking around the manision for some reason. I guess my mind wandered to whether Aoshi would play a part in the fight with Shishio and the amazment of sudden appearence of Saito.

could someone help me and explain it? please

Think of him as a disguised shades-wearing blacksuit-wearing FBI agent protecting the country from terrorists. :cool:

He has more freedom in his activities than the local police. Kinda like a license to kill, you could say. :evil:

[Sampo]

Shuntensatsu verses the Amakakeru Ryuu no Hirameki technique.

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Man watching Soujiro break down like that during the fight was something...

The fight comes down to who can get off their ultimate attack. Kenshin wins again but not without a price to pay. As Soujiro figures out the secret to Kenshin's technique. :(

Not much else to say. Kenshin looks terrible and I wonder how well he will do during the fight with Shishio. I am looking forward to next week's episode.

[Dogasu]

That was not Sanosuke with the gun it was the Shishio's lacky, I am not sure what his name was. Sano, however, was talking about useing his strongest punch to level the place if it looked like Kenshin was close to death.

That's right. Thanks for the correction--I don't know why I was thinking Sanosuke, of all people, would be hiding a gun all this time. If I recall correctly, the guy's name is Houji, and I can already kinda guess what will happen during the Shishio fight

Houji will try to break out the gun to use on Kenshin during Shishio's fight with him, and then Shishio will kill him for interfering--is that right?

I'm kinda surprised, actually, that Shishio would want to fight an exhausted Kenshin. You'd think he'd want to fight him at full strength to prove his superiority, but it seems he'd be content in taking out the way he is now. Hmmm...

because now we have to stay up even later to watch crap shows until 11. And a lot of ppl that watch kenshin dont even no about .hack//SIGN because it was never on toonami to get ppl hooked. it was there for ppl that mostly already stay up late.

No one's forcing you to stay tuned to Cartoon Network until 11pm. You could just...oh I dunno, change the channel?? Or shut the TV off altogether?

And who doesn't stay up late on Saturday nights anyway? I can't remember the last Saturday night when I ever went to bed before 2am.

[Eddy]

Too bad Kenshin got pushed back. I liked watching Teen Titans and then watching Rorouni Kenshin right after it.

Heh, I wearing a Rurouni Kenshin t-shirt. :D

Anyway, this episode was great. I really like Soujiro. One of my favorite characters in the show.

Well, I'm used to having to wait a week for the next episode but still...

The soundtrack in this one was great, as all Kenshin episodes. Where can I buy Kenshin soundtracks, anyway?

[G1Ravage]

Houji will try to break out the gun to use on Kenshin during Shishio's fight with him, and then Shishio will kill him for interfering--is that right?

Nope, not even close. Actually, I don't know WHAT it was Hoji was hiding, because we never see it again. He doesn't participate in the Kenshin/Shishio fight at all. Yumi, on the other hand....oh god...poor Yumi. :(

[Tapout]

Nope, not even close. Actually, I don't know WHAT it was Hoji was hiding, because we never see it again. He doesn't participate in the Kenshin/Shishio fight at all. Yumi, on the other hand....oh god...poor Yumi. :(

Um, yes we do. I'm not entirely sure when it is, I believe after Shishio has Kenshin, Sano, Saito, and Aoshi laid out, Hoji realizes just how strong Shishio really is and pulls out the rifle and throws it away. So kinda pointless, really, but it does make a return.

[DarkPoet89]

I've always loved this episode. Kenshin sure has a way with words, doesn't he?

Anyway, somebody asked what Amakakeru Ryu no Hirameki meant a bit earlier, right? Well, acording to the last Kyoto Arc DVD, it literally translates to "Heaven-Flight-Dragon's-Inspiration". The last DVD has a lot of things on it like attack lists, character messages, the funniest outtakes EVER, and even a preview for the third season. Oh yeah, it also has the last five episodes of the Kyoto Arc :D I strongly reccomend buying it.

Now I have a question: Williams Street is doing the edits for Kenshin, right? I want to know because I simply love the edits in this show. They aren't too obvious, and they don't take any of the enjoyment out :)

[Nimbleness]

Not much else to say. Kenshin looks terrible and I wonder how well he will do during the fight with Shishio. I am looking forward to next week's episode.

too bad over half the episode is consisted of recaps and walking up stairs

[lostrune]

I'm kinda surprised, actually, that Shishio would want to fight an exhausted Kenshin. You'd think he'd want to fight him at full strength to prove his superiority, but it seems he'd be content in taking out the way he is now. Hmmm...

Don't you remember? That's his plan all along for facing off Saito and Kenshin against Usui and Aoshi. He knew even if either survives, the survivor won't come out unscathed. He takes every advantage.


BTW, another thing about the Amakakeru Ryu no Hirameki. Besides being hazardous to the left leg, it's also very very taxing to the body whenever unleashed, as to be expected from the ultimate technique of the already very taxing Mitsurugi swordstyle. That's why it can't be performed too often, especially for Kenshin's smallish physique.

[Spidey2099]

Originally Posted by lostrune:

That's why it can't be performed too often, especially for Kenshin's smallish physique.

I also read somewhere that Kenshin is in fact smaller than 5'3.''

Wily little bugger, that he is.

[raykremer]

Williams Street is amazing. That digital toothpick Saito was holding looked great, and WS even managed to cover up the close-up motion of Saito putting his hand to his mouth to smoke it. They really are that good.
You know, in all this time that was the first time I even noticed it was a toothpick instead of a cigarette, when he threw it to the floor. I sure wouldn't have known it was an edit if people hadn't been commenting on it all this time. It really is impressive.
See Initial D DVD release: the effects of Tokyopop aimming for mainstream.
I think Initial D is getting far more attention because of that than it otherwise would have, because it's not all that great a show. (IMO, of course.)
.hack//SIGN was on Toonami for 4 weeks.
The Saturday afternoon version. Not quite the same thing.

[Joe Mama]

I also read somewhere that Kenshin is in fact smaller than 5'3.''

Wily little bugger, that he is.I can under stand that, I'm fifteen, and I'm still smaller than 5'2''.

[Mackenzie Rainelle]

I also read somewhere that Kenshin is in fact smaller than 5'3.''

Wily little bugger, that he is.

@_@.......::trying to grasp that the Battousai is shorter than she is:: Urgh, headache..... :: collapse:: x_x;;;;

[Spidey2099]

And Sano and Saito are around six feet, and I think Sano is only 18 :eek: (I haven't seen many of the early episodes, so it came as a shock to me--I thought he was around Kenshin's age.)

[Mackenzie Rainelle]

And Sano and Saito are around six feet, and I think Sano is only 18 :eek: (I haven't seen many of the early episodes, so it came as a shock to me--I thought he was around Kenshin's age.)

I woulda said something like ("How could you not tell?!"), then I saw the part about missing most of the early episodes. Sano's just a brat compared to Saitou and Kenshin. XD