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Courage-Bagge
09-04-2003, 07:21 PM
Lord Yes!

Bubblegum Girl
09-04-2003, 07:26 PM
I think not.

MJC
09-04-2003, 07:39 PM
No.

Parallax
09-04-2003, 07:39 PM
No. You could also argue that CN plays TOO much Cartoon Cartoons.

Xada-Hgla
09-04-2003, 07:48 PM
Nope.

Animation Otaku
09-04-2003, 07:54 PM
No, CN only plays about 7 hours a day(and only Big O on Sundays(Trigun and Bebop are monday morning) and .hack(since it comes on at midnight Saturday which is technically Sunday).

DemonKrowno
09-04-2003, 08:37 PM
I think american television period has been playing a wee too much especially as of late. There's so much it's starting to become mainstream and will soon no longer be the jewel of the loser's eye. No longer will it be something we can mock other's lack of knowledge of. We'll have to find something else to fill the void.......and it won't be too pretty

Joe Mama
09-04-2003, 08:41 PM
Too much anime??!!!

I say, expand Adult Swim, and Toonami. get more anime. ;) ;)

Artemis
09-04-2003, 08:42 PM
Lesse we get two hours on Adult Swim so that makes eight hours for the week. We get two hours of it on Toonami which adds 10 hours to that, which makes 18 hours for the week. Add four hours from SVES and we get 22 hours of anime for the week. Hamtaro and Big O from Sunday makes 23 hours. Classic Zoids airs five times a week adding two and a half hours which makes 25.5 hours for the week The Yu-Gi-Oh/Pokemon hour airs four times a week bumping it up to 29.5 hours of anime. Morning Pokemon airs five times a week making it 32 hours.

Cartoon Network airs 168 hours of programming a week. 32 of those hours belong to anime.

168 - 32 = 136 hours left for non-anime.

So, no, Cartoon Network does not show too much anime.

Hades
09-04-2003, 08:46 PM
the only thing they play too much of is Cartoon Cartoons and Scooby Doo. you know, i use to enjoy a good Scooby ep every now and then, but God, i just can't stand it now. overload.

Joe Mama
09-04-2003, 08:46 PM
Lesse we get two hours on Adult Swim so that makes four hours for the week. We get two hours of it on Toonami which adds 10 hours to that, which makes 14 hours for the week. Add four hours from SVES and we get 18 hours of anime for the week. Hamtaro and Big O from Sunday makes 19 hours. Classic Zoids airs five times a week adding two and a half hours which makes 21.5 hours for the week The Yu-Gi-Oh/Pokemon hour airs four times a week bumping it up to 25.5 hours of anime. Morning Pokemon airs five times a week making it 28 hours.

Cartoon Network airs 168 hours of programming a week. 28 of those hours belong to anime.

168 - 28 = 140 hours left for non-anime.

So, no, Cartoon Network does not show too much anime.Look at the math genious ;) that's cool work, and it just shows HOW little anime, CN. plays

zig973
09-04-2003, 09:05 PM
But how much time is devoted to CLASSICS, hmm?

Animation Otaku
09-04-2003, 09:06 PM
Lesse we get two hours on Adult Swim so that makes four hours for the week.

Wouldn't that be eight? ;) Other than that, you're right.

EightOh
09-04-2003, 09:23 PM
But how much time is devoted to CLASSICS, hmm?As has been stated before (by a guy who was there from the beginning of CN, no less), the only reason they aired so much in the way of classic cartoons in the past was because that was all they had. Now that they have the ability to expand their horizons, so to speak, they're doing so. I'm not saying it's necessarily a good thing, but the fact of the matter is that they wouldn't have even aired much classic programming in the past if they didn't have to do so.

There's a place on CN for classics, IMHO, but it has not and will never be the focus of the network. Just be glad Boomerang's there to air some stuff that would otherwise be banished to (further) obscurity.

Mynd Hed
09-04-2003, 09:32 PM
I think american television period has been playing a wee too much especially as of late. There's so much it's starting to become mainstream and will soon no longer be the jewel of the loser's eye. No longer will it be something we can mock other's lack of knowledge of. We'll have to find something else to fill the void.......and it won't be too pretty

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that this post is sarcastic, because otherwise....

Daniel P
09-04-2003, 09:34 PM
There's a place on CN for classics, IMHO, but it has not and will never be the focus of the network. Just be glad Boomerang's there to air some stuff that would otherwise be banished to (further) obscurity.I think most people who say that CN doesn't need to air more classics are people who have a wrong idea that by classic people mean cheesy Hanna-Barbera shows like "The Smurfs" or "Scooby Doo." (Not saying this is necessarily true of you, EightOh.) Cartoon Network does not show enough in the way of real classic cartoons, such as MGM (Tex Avery, Tom and Jerry), Warner Brothers, Popeye, Rocky and Bullwinkle, and the like. Whether or not CN shows enough anime is up for debate, but in terms of classics it's gotten pretty obvious that Cartoon Network doesn't play the classics enough, especially when they bring in respectable ratings. It's a sad day when Cartoon Network shows more Scooby Doo than Tom and Jerry and Looney Tunes combined. :(

Artemis
09-04-2003, 09:53 PM
Wouldn't that be eight? ;) Other than that, you're right.

Ack, can't believe I did that. >_< I was thinking four days a week and ended up typing that. Focusing on the additions made me forget about it. Anyway, post editted, math fixed.

Umino
09-04-2003, 09:54 PM
You just want to click here because you don't want to admit that Courage-Bagge's right.

My, someone needs some social skills.

Senbei Norimaki
09-04-2003, 10:18 PM
I feel think that Cartoon network airs too much action anime. I think it's sad that Hamtaro & Pecola and .hack are the only non action anime on the channel. :shrug: I really wish cartoon network would air more of the classics. When I say classics I mean Looney tunes, Popeye, Betty Boop, MGM and Harvey toons.

ToonamiFanatic
09-04-2003, 10:58 PM
no I dont think they air too mucn anime. I wish they would show more and expand toonami and I know they are going to expand Adult swim.

JohnCrichton
09-04-2003, 11:09 PM
What does "You just want to click here because you don't want to admit that Courage-Bagge's right." mean, anyway?

Courage-Bagge's?

:confused:

Edit: Nevermind.... the guy's name... :sweat:

William C. Maune
09-04-2003, 11:55 PM
That result of that equation will go down by three hours in a couple weeks also when Samuai Jack and He-Man replace Dragonball Z and Hot Wheels replaces the Friday airing of Dragonball.

Tea
09-05-2003, 12:14 AM
Not really, no.

Jade_GL
09-05-2003, 12:22 AM
I think they do in that they play a lot of stuff that doesn't interest me in the slightest. Again, I would pay more attention to the block if it didn't aim itself so much toward the male viewer. I mean, I like a kick butt, muscle flexing, ninja anime just as much as the next chick, but I would love to see some variety in the action they choose. Like I said eons ago in another thread, a girl centric action show (doesn't have to be magical girl or anything, just one that has more female characters in major roles) would improve the block greatly. Not only that, but I think they replay a lot of stuff to much. Heck, I know that if it works, it works, but it makes old Toonami watchers like me bored when I see most of the stuff that's playing now.

Why not some Kaitou Saint Tail, or something more funny? Maybe something without robots for a change? I just don't watch it anymore because it's not that interesting to me as an anime viewer that has grown out of certain shows (sailormoon, DBZ) and would like to see more variety on American TV.

Pepperidge
09-05-2003, 12:35 AM
Well, in Canada we have NO anime. Then again, we have barely any classics, either.

I'll just say no.

oranthal
09-05-2003, 01:30 AM
I still want to see Exo-squad and Phantom 2040 again. And to a certain degree, WildCATS, Ultraforce, and Skeleton Warriors but there is only about 40 episodes between these 3.

DemonKrowno
09-05-2003, 05:16 PM
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that this post is sarcastic, because otherwise....

thank you. for the most part,yeah,I was being sarcastic. but I do think there is too much anime on television right now. I'm unable to keep up with it all. heh. plus most other networks bring over crappy anime like Beyblade(let it rip). They don't look for quality anime,heavens no. They just figure Toonami and AdultSwim's anime get good ratings just because it's anime, so if they get one,then all will be hunky doory.I think quantity is debunking the quality.Urr.

But of course,these are just my thoughts.

True Noir
09-05-2003, 05:33 PM
Lord Yes!

Lord No!! If you don't like anime then don't watch it. Easy as that.

jeffrey 228
09-05-2003, 06:56 PM
The only thing I am against is DBZ and some Dragon Ball but since being teh new episodes, I'll make an exception there.

Courage-Bagge
09-05-2003, 06:58 PM
My, someone needs some social skills.
That was SO funny, I forgot to laugh! :yawn:

Blue Priestess
09-05-2003, 07:05 PM
The real argument shouldn't be about CN's quantity of anime, but the quality of their anime. The same can be applied to all of their shows.

Unfortunately, in some cases, quality is a relative measure, and TV viewing is one of those cases. :shrug:

Obi
09-05-2003, 07:21 PM
I DEMAND a "no" option.


Too much Cartoon Cartoons. I really like them, but they're on TOO MUCH.

Beat
09-05-2003, 07:22 PM
Hell no! If anything, they shun their anime.

Eddy
09-05-2003, 08:30 PM
Anime on too much... no.

Cartoon Cartoons on too much... hell yes.

I've grown to hate CCF, Summer Fridays, Fridays or whatever the hell it's called now so much now. I'd much rather see the next episode of Blue Gender rather than an awful new Dexter or an Eds repeat I've seen a few million times now.

Duke Psychology
09-05-2003, 08:36 PM
To an anime-hater, a half-four of anime is too much anime.

Umino
09-05-2003, 08:45 PM
That was SO funny, I forgot to laugh! :yawn:

Someone needs to learn some better comebacks too...

Yash
09-05-2003, 09:00 PM
To an anime-hater, a half-four of anime is too much anime.

Wow, what a ****ing genius. So, are you saying that you would rather have Scooby-Doo and Cartoon Cartoon reruns in place of USA premieres of more well-thought out stuff like Yu Yu Hakusho, Rurouni Kenshin, the Gundam Series (EXCLUDING SD Gundam... Y'know, I've never come across an Anime I absolutely couldn't stand until that came out)? And besides that, are you forced to watch the actual Animé?

Two more things.

1) Where's the 'I'm clicking here because Courage-Bagge is actually wrong, a.k.a. the opposite of right" option?
and
2) Where's Courage-Bagge's social skills?

To me, more Animé would be great.

And Courage, you're pretty much asking for a one-way trip to Bannedland with this.

Now, I'm off to listen to some Animé music...

Killtacular
09-05-2003, 09:32 PM
See the flames begin to crawl... upward...

Duke Psychology
09-05-2003, 09:34 PM
Wow, what a ****ing genius. So, are you saying that you would rather have Scooby-Doo and Cartoon Cartoon reruns in place of USA premieres of more well-thought out stuff like Yu Yu Hakusho, Rurouni Kenshin, the Gundam Series (EXCLUDING SD Gundam... Y'know, I've never come across an Anime I absolutely couldn't stand until that came out)? And besides that, are you forced to watch the actual Animé?




Whoa there, cowboy! That's not how I think, I'm merely suggesting that's probably what Courage-Bagge thinks. Besides this entire thread is stupid. Anime isn't what's being shown too much, it's Cartoon Cartoons. And classics need to get played more, but that's a different topic.

Though I laugh at you for calling Yu Yu Hakusho "well thought out". That's a "turn-your-brain-off" show.

jeffrey 228
09-05-2003, 09:50 PM
See the flames begin to crawl... upward...

That is also what I am seeing, and is this about the third post related to this and stuff, because while on ToonZone I have seen some of these topics in eaither the Anime Forum or Adult Swim forum, and I'd say this has now gotten pointless.

Of coruse there could be newbies that never got the chance so I'll just be a bit quiet for awhile.

Yash
09-05-2003, 09:51 PM
Though I laugh at you for calling Yu Yu Hakusho "well thought out". That's a "turn-your-brain-off" show.

I'm sorry if I just happen to think that Yu Yu Hakusho is well thought out. I'm sorry I EVER said anything against your opinion, and I won't live another second feeling guilty of what I did :rolleyes:

Either way it's more thought-out than crap like The Powerpuff Girls and Scooby-Doo (One more spinoff and I'm killing the Kids' WB executives! I'll do it! I'm really gonna do it!).

Oh, so that wasn't your opinion? Then I'm sorry for directing that towards you.

And yes, this entire thread is stupid.

Look at the Fire Wall. It burns.

Eddy
09-05-2003, 10:10 PM
I was making a list of how much CN airs anime and Cartoon Cartoons in one week...

ANIME:

Hamtaro (1 showing)
The Big O (1 showing)
Trigun (5 showings)
Cowboy Bebop (5 showings)
Classic Zoids (5 showings)
Pokemon (10 shwoings)
SD Gundam (5 showings)
Dragonball Z (6 showigns)
Cyborg 009 (4 showings)
Dragonball (4 showings)
Yu-Gi-Oh! (5 showings)
InuYasha (4 showings)
Blue Gender (4 showings)
History of Trunks (1 showing)
Knights of the Zodiac (1 showing)
Transformers Armada (1 showing)
Zoids (1 showing)
Rurouni Kenshin (1 showing)
.hack//sign (1 showing)

CARTOON CARTOONS:

Dexter’s Lab (30 showings)
Codename: Kids Next Door (5 showings)
Courage the Cowardly Dog (21 showings)

I just stopped at this point. If Dexter is on 30 times and Courage is on 21 times, the Eds and PPG must be on a lot as well.

Conlusion:

Anime is not shown too much.
Cartoon Cartoons are shows too much.

Catlover
09-05-2003, 10:39 PM
I don't think CN plays enough anime or classic cartoons. They should just change their name to "CC&SAN" or "Cartoon Cartoon & Some Anime Network". A true "Cartoon" network should show an equal amount of different cartoons.

Courage-Bagge
09-06-2003, 01:08 PM
Someone needs to learn some better comebacks too...
Oh yeah, well let me tell you something, if you don't like my comebcaks, you can LOVE them! And another thing to everyone else...I see you think tat just because Cartoon Cartoons are CN's original trademark shows, you fells they're played too much, as well as Scooby-Doo, well people, I do feel that Scooby-Doo is played too much, but as for Cartoon Cartoons, we might as well get used to them being on more and more, because that's basically what CN's trying to do is to get more Cartoon Cartoons, so they'll have a wider selections of their original trademark shows. But if you guys don't like this thread, then why did you bother posting on it anyway? :confused: Actually, why did I even bother starting it anyway if hardly anyone agrees with me.

Killtacular
09-06-2003, 01:12 PM
Why post something intended to rally people when noone agrees?

Duke Psychology
09-06-2003, 01:14 PM
Does anyone else find it funny that Courage-Bagge has yet to explain why he/she feels there's too much anime on Cartoon Network?

Chrono1995
09-06-2003, 01:46 PM
Does anyone else find it funny that Courage-Bagge has yet to explain why he/she feels there's too much anime on Cartoon Network?

Well, I'm expecting the answer to be "Just Because" if he can't even provide a "No" answer to his poll.

It's been said before, anime isn't on nearly as much as Scooby-Doo and Cartoon Cartoons, which I'm rapidly getting sick of.

Umino
09-06-2003, 02:25 PM
Oh yeah, well let me tell you something, if you don't like my comebcaks, you can LOVE them!

You really need to grow up. - -

Yash
09-06-2003, 03:53 PM
Oh yeah, well let me tell you something, if you don't like my comebcaks, you can LOVE them!

You've just proven your own ignorance and stupidity right there.

And another thing to everyone else...I see you think tat just because Cartoon Cartoons are CN's original trademark shows, you fells they're played too much, as well as Scooby-Doo, well people, I do feel that Scooby-Doo is played too much, but as for Cartoon Cartoons, we might as well get used to them being on more and more, because that's basically what CN's trying to do is to get more Cartoon Cartoons, so they'll have a wider selections of their original trademark shows.

How in the hell are you able to defend CN's decision to overplay the Cartoon Cartoons!?

Let's take a look at their schedule, shall we?

SUNDAY

7:00 - Dexter's Laboratory
7:30 - Codename: Kids' Next Door
8:00 - Courage the Cowardly Dog
8:30 - The Powerpuff Girls
9:00 - The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy
9:30 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
12:00 - What's New, Scooby-Doo?
4:00 - Codename: Kids' Next Door
4:30 - Whatever Happened to Robot Jones?
5:00 - Courage the Cowardly Dog
5:30 - The Powerpuff Girls
6:00 - Dexter's Laboratory
6:30 - Dexter's Laboratory
7:00 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
7:30 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
9:00 - Cartoon Cartoon Top 5
2:00 - The Powerpuff Girls
2:30 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
3:00 - Dexter's Laboratory
3:30 - Courage the Cowardly Dog
4:00 - Johnny Bravo
4:30 - Cow and Chicken
5:00 - Time Squad

How many hours is that? 12 hours! That means half of Sunday is devoted to Cartoon Cartoons.

MONDAY

7:30 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
8:00 - Dexter's Laboratory
12:00 - Courage the Cowardly Dog
12:30 - Dexter's Laboratory
7:30 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
8:00 - Dexter's Laboratory
2:00 - The Powerpuff Girls
2:30 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
3:00 - Dexter's Laboratory
3:30 - Courage the Cowardly Dog
4:00 - Johnny Bravo
4:30 - Cow and Chicken
5:00 - Time Squad

TUESDAY

7:30 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
8:00 - Dexter's Laboratory
12:00 - Courage the Cowardly Dog
12:30 - Dexter's Laboratory
2:00 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
2:30 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
3:00 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
3:30 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
4:00 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
7:30 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
8:00 - Dexter's Laboratory
2:00 - The Powerpuff Girls
2:30 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
3:00 - Dexter's Laboratory
3:30 - Courage the Cowardly Dog
4:00 - Johnny Bravo
4:30 - Cow and Chicken
5:00 - Time Squad

WEDNESDAY

7:30 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
8:00 - Dexter's Laboratory
12:00 - Courage the Cowardly Dog
12:30 - Dexter's Laboratory
2:00 - Dexter's Laboratory
2:30 - Dexter's Laboratory
3:00 - Dexter's Laboratory
3:30 - Dexter's Laboratory
4:00 - Dexter's Laboratory
7:30 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
8:00 - Dexter's Laboratory
2:00 - The Powerpuff Girls
2:30 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
3:00 - Dexter's Laboratory
3:30 - Courage the Cowardly Dog
4:00 - Johnny Bravo
4:30 - Cow and Chicken
5:00 - Time Squad

THURSDAY

7:30 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
8:00 - Dexter's Laboratory
12:00 - Courage the Cowardly Dog
12:30 - Dexter's Laboratory
2:00 - Courage the Cowardly Dog
2:30 - Courage the Cowardly Dog
3:00 - Courage the Cowardly Dog
3:30 - Courage the Cowardly Dog
4:00 - Courage the Cowardly Dog
7:30 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
8:00 - Dexter's Laboratory
2:00 - The Powerpuff Girls
2:30 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
3:00 - Dexter's Laboratory
3:30 - Courage the Cowardly Dog
4:00 - Johnny Bravo
4:30 - Cow and Chicken
5:00 - Time Squad

FRIDAY

7:30 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
8:00 - Dexter's Laboratory
12:00 - Courage the Cowardly Dog
12:30 - Dexter's Laboratory
2:00 - The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy
2:30 - The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy
3:00 - The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy
3:30 - The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy
4:00 - The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy
7:00 - The Powerpuff Girls
8:00 - What's New, Scooby-Doo?
8:30 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
9:00 - Dexter's Laboratory
9:30 - Evil Con Carne
10:00 - Codename: Kids' Next Door
10:30 - The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy
11:00 - The Powerpuff Girls
11:30 - Dexter's Laboratory
12:00 - Courage the Cowardly Dog
12:30 - Time Squad
1:00 - Cartoon Cartoon Top 5
2:00 - Dexter's Laboratory
2:30 - What's New, Scooby-Doo?
3:00 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
3:30 - The Powerpuff Girls
4:00 - Courage the Cowardly Dog

So far it's... 50 and a half hours!

SATURDAY

7:00 - Dexter's Laboratory
7:30 - Codename: Kids' Next Door
8:00 - Courage the Cowardly Dog
8:30 - The Powerpuff Girls
9:00 - The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy
9:30 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
1:00 - Dexter's Laboratory
1:30 - Codename: Kids' Next Door
2:00 - Courage the Cowardly Dog
2:30 - The Powerpuff Girls
3:00 - The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy
3:30 - Ed, Edd, n' Eddy

*phew*

Do you know how many hours that is altogether, Courage-Bagge?

56 AND A ****ING HALF!!!

That's NOTHING compared to Anime.

Basically, you say that Anime gets too much showtime, before turning around and saying that 56 hours of Cartoon Cartoons isn't bad?

The thing about CN's Anime is diversity. There's something for everybody, and there's so much different Anime. And here the Cartoon Cartoons is nothing but reruns, except for that rare occasion on Fridays, and it's THE SAME SEVEN SHOWS!!!

This getting to you?

But if you guys don't like this thread, then why did you bother posting on it anyway?

Because it was a poll, and you didn't provide us with a No option, which is the absolute truth. So of course we're going to post.

You're REALLY starting to remind me of Zim999...

Actually, why did I even bother starting it anyway if hardly anyone agrees with me.

Good question - Why did you start this thread? You're pretty much asking for flames with it, considering the number of Anime fans.

You really need to grow up. - -

I second that.

rmarti3926
09-06-2003, 04:11 PM
What I am suggesting if you want more anime, you have to get more girl-oriented or comedy-oriented stuff. Most of the anime here is nothing but tetostorone-fueled, fighting junk (no offense to Cowboy Bebop, I loved the show.)

Yash
09-06-2003, 04:15 PM
What I am suggesting if you want more anime, you have to get more girl-oriented or comedy-oriented stuff. Most of the anime here is nothing but tetostorone-fueled, fighting junk (no offense to Cowboy Bebop, I loved the show.)

-_-

Well, this MIGHT have to do with the fact that most Anime on CN is on the Action blocks... or is that just my silly theories running wild again?

Jimmy Kustes
09-06-2003, 05:36 PM
What they should do is work on renewing CB, Big O, and Outlaw Star and be fair to TechTV and let them aquire some old anime. CN is an Escaflowne away from being anime monopoly.

The shows they should air more often are Looney Tunes, BATS TAS, and Kenshin because there are plenty to rotate. CN doesn't know how rare it is to get 100 episodes. They don't even have Animaniacs, which has like 99 episodes and a movie. No King of the Hill, South Park, or The Simpsons. Futurama, Family Guy, PPG, Dexter, SJ, and Home Movies will take awhile to get there. SGC2C only has like 11 minutes per episode.

Beat
09-06-2003, 05:55 PM
Guess what anime hater? You lose. The people have spoken.

Jade_GL
09-06-2003, 06:17 PM
-_-

Well, this MIGHT have to do with the fact that most Anime on CN is on the Action blocks... or is that just my silly theories running wild again?

And there are no girl cenctric anime shows that also have kick butt action?

I guess I must be watching imaginary anime in my spare time that I created in my head during a fever dream that has female main characters and yet has plenty of interesting and action filled story lines.

There are plenty of girl centric shows that have action in them. And CN should get their hands on some and liven up the block a little. Heck, even getting an action show without robots would liven up the block a little. Anyway, that's not the point, I think they show too much of one type, a guy-centric, robot/ninja type of anime.

Which I do like sometimes, but why not devote a half hour to different action. I'm not saying bring back SM, but geez, there's more stuff out there to expose one's self too.

Yash
09-06-2003, 06:22 PM
And there are no girl cenctric anime shows that also have kick butt action?

Nope.

It's just that Action Anime is stereotyped as "Boys cartoons". Anime is also stereotyped as stuff for boys. It'd be a crying shame if they picked up a girls' anime wouldn't it?

BTW, just in case it wasn't obvious enough, that was sarcasm.

*Continues to point his finger at Kids' WB! executives*

ohmrbill
09-06-2003, 06:22 PM
And there are no girl cenctric anime shows that also have kick butt action?

I guess I must be watching imaginary anime in my spare time that I created in my head during a fever dream that has female main characters and yet has plenty of interesting and action filled story lines.

There are plenty of girl centric shows that have action in them. And CN should get their hands on some and liven up the block a little. Heck, even getting an action show without robots would liven up the block a little. Anyway, that's not the point, I think they show too much of one type, a guy-centric, robot/ninja type of anime.

Which I do like sometimes, but why not devote a half hour to different action. I'm not saying bring back SM, but geez, there's more stuff out there to expose one's self too.

Maybe it's just me, but it seems like most action anime with female main characters end up being even more male-centric than the ones with male leads. :sweat:

Beat
09-06-2003, 06:49 PM
Not all of them.

Jade_GL
09-06-2003, 08:05 PM
Maybe it's just me, but it seems like most action anime with female main characters end up being even more male-centric than the ones with male leads. :sweat:

Um, some are, but again that's not all. Like I said, I can think of three or four off the top of my head that have plenty of action, fun, and would be perfect for CN, either Toonami or Adult Swim, that don't take a route where a) The women are always drooling over men, or b) That are full of fan service for the male viewer.

Like I said, variety is the spice of life and CN should be no exception. If they keep getting the same crud, they'll eventually become stale. In fact, I think some portions of CN's schedule are already stale.

Anyway, like I said, there is more out there in the action realm of anime than people are considering. For a group of fans that always complain about people being close-minded, some people here are not considering viable options for programming, or are making blanket statements about certain genres. Anyway, I think it's something that should be explored more and would bring more viewers to the channel.

Sketch
09-06-2003, 09:39 PM
Maybe it's just me, but it seems like most action anime with female main characters end up being even more male-centric than the ones with male leads. :sweat:

LOL no kidding...

The thing about anime on CN is that it usually changes up every now and then while the Cartoon Cartoons just sit there and rot the schedule away.

I'm perfectly okay with Friday nights being the CC night, and Sunday's being the CC morning, but everything else is just too much.

Thankfully with AS expanding, we'll be rid of the late night / early morning CC's (but hopefully Time Squad will air at 5am for a nice transisition to regular CN). However the prime time block has got to go (and it seems to be at the moment) and they've got to cut back on the CC's in the afternoon AND a Pup Named Scooby Doo. They should air the more popular CC's once a day on the week days in the morning hours and have ONE airing of Scooby per day. It's on both CN and KWB (I really wish they'd replace it with Static Shock or X-Men: Evo).

Sorry to bust out a schedule (acutally no I'm not, I love doing this!)

Prime time on CN should be this:
4:30 - Totally Spies (gets ratings...)
5:00 - TOONAMI
7:00 - The Flintstones
7:30 - The Jetsons
8:00 - Scooby-Doo (the ONLY showing of the day)
8:30 - Tom and Jerry or Bugs and Daffy
9:00 - Jackie Chan
9:30 - Yu-Gi-Oh!
10:00 - Samurai Jack
10:30 - X-Men: EVO

Of course if I could have it my way I'd make from 9-11pm TMNT, Thundercats, GI-Joe, and Transformers G1... but that's just me.

CN also needs to get the guts to air anime outside of Toonami in plain site. Like prime time. Detective Conan will no doubt make it's way to CN, but it's not an action show at all so it doesn't fit Toonami or SVES. They should air it directly after Toonami at 7pm or maybe a little later... say 9pm.

GWOtaku
09-06-2003, 10:03 PM
The channel is overrun with retarded Scooby Doo reruns and brainless Cartoon Cartoons, and you say there's too much anime?

Blah.

Mek
09-07-2003, 10:33 AM
Nah, I don't think CN plays too much anime.

Wouldn't hurt to maybe show more of it, and maybe some of the American-NON Cartoon Cartoon shows too. (Examples: "Teen Titans" and "Masters of the Universe")

Redi
09-07-2003, 11:48 AM
My only real problem with the CN line up is that Adult Swim doesn't come on friday and saturdays...

I like Cartoon Cartoons and I feel they need MORE good ones. They should fall back on the Scooby Doo and I really don't see any need for more "classics"...that's what Boomerang is for. They also need to take off Dragon Ball Z and Transformers Armada and start producing more non-Japanese action shows.

Sketch
09-07-2003, 12:18 PM
My only real problem with the CN line up is that Adult Swim doesn't come on friday and saturdays...

I like Cartoon Cartoons and I feel they need MORE good ones. They should fall back on the Scooby Doo and I really don't see any need for more "classics"...that's what Boomerang is for. They also need to take off Dragon Ball Z and Transformers Armada and start producing more non-Japanese action shows.

I dissagree! I want The Jetsons and The Flintstones on every day (usually at 7pm because they are prime time animated series) and other Hanna Barbera classics on the weekends (Yogi Bear especially).

The should be less Scooby Doo. I say one showing of regular Scooby Doo Where Are You? and one of A Pup Named Scooby Doo on the weekdays AND THAT'S IT!

Dragonball Z will always be somewhere. It sure doesn't need to be on every day anymore though. It's fine for saturday nights though.

I think with better programing on Fridays and Saturdays then it wont matter thas AS is there or not. Friday's shouldn't have as many repeats, but instead go the uie hours showing the less popular CC's and only repeat Duck Dodgers and the premieres. SVES should go from 6pm-12pm and 12pm should be TOONAMI the Midnight Run.

As for more NON-anime action shows... that's a little tough to do. It requires money to produce series, but there are a few they could pick up. The new TMNT (I'm gonna get shot for this one BUT I DON'T CARE!), Super Mario Bros. cartoons, Sonic SatAM, Mega Man, Beastwars/Machines, and some shows from syndication. Then of course there are the unused shows from KWB such as Static Shock, Earthworm Jim (IT MUST BE ON CN!), and the Zeta Project. There's plenty of great stuff out there which could be aquired rather then pay some company to make a new series. However I'd love a new Thundercats to go along with He-Man and TF (especially if they get TMNT as well). A new GI-Joe would be great, an original Marvel series by the team that made X-Men: EVO, or maybe a series for one of the members of the JL other than Superman or Batman.

Oh yeah, and they should play reruns of Kenshin at 6am (right before Zoids CC). They just should. It's not gonna be back on regular Toonami ever so it's about the only place it could get a decent weekday run. Stick Gundam Wing and MSG before that and you've got some fantastic weekday morning anime to wake you up.

Teio
09-07-2003, 12:50 PM
If you want to argue that CN is relying too heavily on imported animation then I have to say no. Japan is probably the only country that actually looks at animation as a medium for real story telling. In the US, it is mainly treated as a children's medium only. While in Japan, many animations are created for each age group and are given the same thought and effort as many US movies and television series.

Whether it is because of political correctness, or the mindset that cartoons = kids, or lack of effort, it will take a long time before US cartoons will show content/material that we see on edited to TV-Y7-FV anime's on Cartoon Network such as Rurouni Kenshin or Cyborg 009.

Juu-kuchi
09-07-2003, 01:01 PM
CN doesn't play TOO much anime. If you're wondering what they play too much it's all those Cartoon Cartoons and Scooby Doo.

serenitymoon
09-07-2003, 01:11 PM
No I don't... if anything I would love for them to have more of it on. I mean, the majority of the week, CN runs non-anime animation, that is with the exception of what, 2 hours of it on Adult Swim and 2 hours of it on Toonami (if you count SD Gundam, which I am reluctant to), and a couple of hours of it on SVES, with a handful of Hamtaro, ect thrown in every now and then. That still leaves the majority of your airtime devoted to Americanized toons such as Courage, Powderpuff, Dexter, Bugs B, ect. So is there too much, no. I would love to see more, but that would be a bit demanding. Heck, I just want CN to keep it coming in the Anime Dept!

Anniemaniac
12-09-2005, 01:48 PM
this thread is old but still im gonna type something.

its not cartoon network that shows too much anime, but rather, anime is shown on tv too much in general. i know there are a lot of anime lovers out there, but i really dont like anime, i find the shows boring, repetative and i cant stand the way the mouths move when the characters speak. now i dont know too much on anime, but from the anime shows i have seen they all look the same as each other, the plots are the same and the characters are similar. i liked the days when the cartoons were different from each other, when there was VARIETY in cartoons, when we had cartoons with different plots, cartoons that were entertaining and funny. nowadays though most cartoons are about as entertaining as a bowl of cold porridge in my opinion.

TheGLIVEN
12-09-2005, 03:30 PM
Lord Yes! Mais non!

Duke
12-09-2005, 04:08 PM
its not cartoon network that shows too much anime, but rather, anime is shown on tv too much in general.Aside from CN, parts of Kids' WB!, and half of 4KidsTV, anime is pretty much limited to specialized channels. There's more music videos and reality shows on TV than there are anime shows.

but from the anime shows i have seen they all look the same as each other, the plots are the same and the characters are similar. You need to look harder then. Ghost in the Shell is very different from Dragonball Z, which is very different from Naruto, which is very different from Pokémon, which is very different from RaXephon, which is very different from Gungrave, which is very different from The Big O, which is very different from Cowboy Bebop, which is very different from Fullmetal Alchemist, which is very different from Full Metal Panic, whichis very different from Chrno Crusade, which is very different from Patlabor. Some may share similar genres and elements, but that's the same as The Jetsons borrowing from the Flintstones or Stargate borrowing from Star Trek.

In Japan, they make an anime out of everything. You know how they make pretty much anything in the film industry? That's how anime is in Japan. If there's a story to be told, chances are it'll get animated down the line (hence all the animated English literature like Little Women in Japan).

Anniemaniac
12-09-2005, 09:06 PM
You need to look harder then. Ghost in the Shell is very different from Dragonball Z, which is very different from Naruto, which is very different from Pokémon, which is very different from RaXephon, which is very different from Gungrave, which is very different from The Big O, which is very different from Cowboy Bebop, which is very different from Fullmetal Alchemist, which is very different from Full Metal Panic, whichis very different from Chrno Crusade, which is very different from Patlabor.
ok, i got your point, but like i said, i dont care much for anime so obviously i havnt watched that many anime shows, however from the shows that i have seen, they were all very similar in my opinion. i just dont find anime shows entertaining.

Natey
12-09-2005, 10:42 PM
Anime=overfreakinrated While i have been banned i have relized why is anime so different. To the average american its a cartoon and they dont even know wut anime is. I would say yes. because the anime they put on their to me is poor or just not my taste.

Daffy Dork
12-09-2005, 10:44 PM
I'm not an anime fan, but personally, I'm going to vote No.

Anime is restricted to Toonami and Miguzi, therefore not overplayed.

Natey
12-09-2005, 10:44 PM
CN doesn't play TOO much anime. If you're wondering what they play too much it's all those Cartoon Cartoons and Scooby Doo.

holy crap. They rarely i mean absolutly rarely show those shows any more. maybe in 2001 you might of been right.



No. You could also argue that CN plays TOO much Cartoon Cartoons. read above.

yoshirider13
12-09-2005, 10:52 PM
holy crap. They rarely i mean absolutly rarely show those shows any more. maybe in 2001 you might of been right.



read above.if you notice those posts date back to 2003 when cartoon cartoons were overplayed...

Ajax
12-09-2005, 11:56 PM
if you notice those posts date back to 2003 when cartoon cartoons were overplayed...Yep, them resurrected threads are tricky. imisshostinCCF thought he had a point, if only he knew this thread was over two years old. Yeah, I think Toonami was still on five days a week back then.

Reading some of the posts above, CN has really changed...a lot in two years.

Sr.Infierno
12-10-2005, 08:30 AM
ok, i got your point, but like i said, i dont care much for anime so obviously i havnt watched that many anime shows, however from the shows that i have seen, they were all very similar in my opinion. i just dont find anime shows entertaining.
It's always funny to see people attempt to get their foot out of their mouth :p

Kamaria
12-10-2005, 10:05 AM
No way. CN plays too many Cartoon Cartoons and re-runs. Whoever's up there doesn't know the meaning of the word redundancy. Kids Next Bore really needs to go.

CN doesn't play ENOUGH anime.

Natey
12-10-2005, 11:38 AM
if you notice those posts date back to 2003 when cartoon cartoons were overplayed...lol whoops, kind of hard to notice.

CN doesn't play enough Cartoon Cartoons

Saiko
12-10-2005, 02:20 PM
If you want to argue that CN is relying too heavily on imported animation then I have to say no. Japan is probably the only country that actually looks at animation as a medium for real story telling. In the US, it is mainly treated as a children's medium only. While in Japan, many animations are created for each age group and are given the same thought and effort as many US movies and television series.

Whether it is because of political correctness, or the mindset that cartoons = kids, or lack of effort, it will take a long time before US cartoons will show content/material that we see on edited to TV-Y7-FV anime's on Cartoon Network such as Rurouni Kenshin or Cyborg 009.
I agree and its a real shame. CN doesn't have enough anime IMO and what they do have its not getting the recognition it deserves. There's defeintely way too many cartoon reruns going on so they should knock back almost everything from cartoon cartoons stop over showing the stuff and give the anime some more room. I'd personally love it if Toonami was an every night thing or atleast two nights. It'd have good possabilities for more anime being shown of different variety and targetting a more mature audience, not so much like AS but right beneath it. Kids have had more than enough of their share of cartoons all day and night on CN give the rest of the generation a break. We watch cartoons and anime too.

Master Moron
12-12-2005, 10:55 PM
ok, i got your point, but like i said, i dont care much for anime so obviously i havnt watched that many anime shows, however from the shows that i have seen, they were all very similar in my opinion. i just dont find anime shows entertaining.

And which shows have you seen?

Yash
12-13-2005, 05:56 PM
Jeez, looking back on my old posts I realize I used to be a real piss >< *waits for someone to make the inevitable "Used to be?" comment*

Since we're two years in the future, I think the amount of anime on CN right now is about right. It doesn't really clog up the schedules, but it doesn't get stuck on some hellish 5 AM slot either.

Then again I don't really watch CN that much anymore (go go Tivo), so meh...

ok, i got your point, but like i said, i dont care much for anime so obviously i havnt watched that many anime shows, however from the shows that i have seen, they were all very similar in my opinion. i just dont find anime shows entertaining. That's a rather broad generalization, don't you think? You can't really judge an entire medium based off shows like Dragonball Z or Yu-Gi-Oh!...

LostKunoichi
12-13-2005, 06:03 PM
But how much time is devoted to CLASSICS, hmm? That's what "Boomerang" is for thank you, and no there is not enough anime. I wish I could get the Anime Network but my cable provider doesn't have it. Darn. :sweat:

Xada-Hgla
12-13-2005, 09:41 PM
Jeez, looking back on my old posts I realize I used to be a real piss >< *waits for someone to make the inevitable "Used to be?" comment*
Used to be a real piss? (Hey, post-bait's gotta be good for something... :p )

Ickis
12-14-2005, 09:23 AM
Yep,way too much of Japenese cartoons with bad lip syncing and bad mouth movement along with one paticular one which is just stupid,Duelmasters! It's just a Yu-Gi-Oh! rip-off!

Mr Cat Dog
12-14-2005, 03:26 PM
If you believe that CN airs too much anime, then write to them with a complaint. Moaning on an internet forum will not change the minds of executives.

To be honest, you should be lucky to have the wide range of anime shown. CN is called Cartoon Network: Not American Cartoons Network, therefore it should (although in recent months this has been stretched out a hell of a lot, no matter how much spin one puts upon it) be able to air cartoons from anywhere, technically.

Getting to the question, from experience, CNUK currently airs no anime. It's only come January that Pokemon Advanced Battle will become a permanent fixture - making 1 anime show on CN. Although over half of the Toonami channel is made up Japanese acquisitions, I'm not going to go into that at the moment.

So, in conclusion, I don't believe CNUK airs too much anime. From what I've seen from US scheduling, CNUS airs a reasonable amount of anime (excluding Adult Swim). If the term in question was "foreign cartoons", then potentially the matter would be very different.

straw_hat
12-14-2005, 04:36 PM
The last thing viewers have to complain about nowadays is anime. This thread is old and Toonami has been kicked to Saturdays and right after that is Adult Swim Action. What ever little anime that is shown during the week are during hours you should already be asleep.

Natey
12-14-2005, 10:40 PM
The last thing viewers have to complain about nowadays is anime. This thread is old and Toonami has been kicked to Saturdays and right after that is Adult Swim Action. What ever little anime that is shown during the week are during hours you should already be asleep.
Exactly.... Because most people i have asked about anime is A the dont know what it is. B they know what it is but say its stupid. C Anime is for no one and causes a person to go the "wrong direction" in their life. Which is kind of true because I know a person to which that has happened. D the -1% said i liked anime. That little thing i did proves that parents send emails about anime. Because parents dont like it. And really who cares about anime beside the animation peeps. Its just another TV show to most people. Therefore the show more fimiliar shows in the day. ( Hope this makes sence)

Brettfern
12-15-2005, 04:14 PM
CN and Kids WB seem to be obsessed with Anime.

Yash
12-15-2005, 04:19 PM
CN and Kids WB seem to be obsessed with Anime. Uh, not really...

WB has three anime on, out of the eight series they're airing. Pokémon has its weekday slot, Yu-Gi-Oh! and new Pokémon on Saturdays, and Viewtiful Joe's hour on Fridays (and its airing on Saturday).

3/8 - Saturdays
3/4 - Fridays
4/16 - Collective Mon-Thurs

Adds up to:

10/28

Only about a third of their lineup is anime.

As for CN, anime really only airs on Toonami and Adult Swim (the latter of which it only makes up half the block). Sure, there's Yu-Gi-Oh! GX on Miguzi, but that's about it.

Brettfern
12-15-2005, 04:20 PM
I'm not crazy about Anime. Most of my good friends are.

k-day42
12-16-2005, 12:01 AM
If anything, there isn't enough anime!!!!!More anime, now!!!!

If need be, balance the genre's between the norm and anime so that everyone will be happy, because even I still watch the occasional american cartoon...

Teknomancer
12-16-2005, 12:25 AM
Waaaaay tooo much anime IMO... And I even get a full channel - Animax dedicated to Anime. So I'm hating it...

purplehairedwonder
12-17-2005, 01:26 AM
It doesn't really clog up the schedules, but it doesn't get stuck on some hellish 5 AM slot either.*coughYuYuHakushocough*