View Full Version : Inu-Yasha Need Editing
Sora Takenouchi
08-29-2003, 01:24 AM
No not my idea. I was just talking to a friend online and he had this amusing idea. ;)
Inuyasha needs more editing on Adult Swim. What kind of editing? For starters:
1. Don't translate the annoying narrations. Maybe the show is written for 12-year-olds in Japan. Doesn't mean the dub script has to be. I'm sure the dub writers are creative enough to come up with something to replace the unnecessary dialogue. It's very annoying.
2. Axe the flashbacks. They can stay on the DVD, but for broadcast they should be cut out. I know IY is aired weekly in Japan and they don't get reruns so it's quite helpful to them. But it's aired daily here. And we DO get reruns. Hence it's annoyance.
These edits would improve the show. Not 4Kids "improve" like how they "improved" Yu-Gi-Oh. I'm talking about an ACTUAL improvement
Found it pretty funny myself. :anime:
Will Sturnick
08-29-2003, 01:29 AM
2. Axe the flashbacks. They can stay on the DVD, but for broadcast they should be cut out. I know IY is aired weekly in Japan and they don't get reruns so it's quite helpful to them. But it's aired daily here. And we DO get reruns. Hence it's annoyance
Actually, I remember hearing that Inuyasha's older episodes are airing in Japan, same channel, different night. Don't know if it's true but I know they've done it with Pokemon.
Sketch
08-29-2003, 03:58 AM
I'm begining to understand what you mean.
I'm REALLY sick of seeing Naraku's birth sequence (could you call it birth?), it's rather disturbing and what not.
Amano Ginji
08-29-2003, 09:03 AM
*InuYasha resting against Kilala*
"That battle wore him out."
Yes, we should let him rest."
"He needs to regain his strength."
And so on.
Master Moron
08-29-2003, 12:47 PM
I'd give up the flashbacks if we could get back the opening.
Chrono1995
08-29-2003, 12:59 PM
I'd give up the flashbacks if we could get back the opening.
I second that without a doubt.
Then again, I don't watch Inuyasha!
DianaGohan
08-29-2003, 01:36 PM
I agree with getting rid of the flashbacks, but in some episodes it's like half the story itself :D (BTW, that's only a half smile). All kidding aside, yeah it does get repititious and annoying, but it really hasn't gotten offensive to me (yet anyway). Besides, I doubt a few fan complaints will change the editing for the show.
Greek_Honeybee
08-29-2003, 01:38 PM
If they did edit those (or anything else) out of the show, you know they'd be lynched by the fans for butchering it. :yawn:
Sora Takenouchi
08-29-2003, 01:48 PM
I agree with getting rid of the flashbacks, but in some episodes it's like half the story itself :D
Nothing a little episode splicing couldn't solve! :D Besides these are only broadcast edits. It'd still be uncut on DVD.
Me, however, would actually prefer IY stays uncut as deep down these are only minor annoyances that don't affect the enjoyment of the show that much. The story's still good.
True Noir
08-29-2003, 11:02 PM
Actually, i don't mind watching the flashbacks because i love watching inuyasha no matter how many reruns they show plus i don't want any change.
herbkir
08-30-2003, 12:58 AM
I don't mind the flashbacks. It's a chance to relive the previous episode while enjoying the current one as well. Inuyasha is fun to watch regardless. I'm just glad its back for a while. (^_*)
JetMaster5
08-30-2003, 01:32 AM
Cut the flashbacks?! Rewrite the dialogues?!!! Are you out of your mind?!!! This is a disgrace! An outrage, messing with the works of art!! We should leave these things alone! Even if they are ******* annoying, it is the creator's true intentions!!
dawnyoshi
08-31-2003, 04:09 AM
meh. i guess it could work. I dont' really care nor notice.
oh, and yes, we know how they "improved" yu-gi-oh all right, especially by "improve" we mean shooting someone up the ass with your finger instead of a gun, and making the shadow realm a basis of death....
my god I hate 4kids and their damn dirty company. I can only imagine what will be done to Shaman King... ;-;
i think the original series of yu-gi-oh should be aired somewhere, maybe CN. It has potential for AS (dodges immediate flames).
j/k everyone. ^^;;;
Nightfall
08-31-2003, 01:44 PM
I think what would really improve Inuyasha is if I wrote the scripts! :p;) Just kidding.
In all likely hood none of us will EVER agree what would make Inuyasha better...but I know if it was me, I'd make it more like old school Dungeons and Dragons. Shippo: "That Sacred Jewel shard is in there?!" Points at a place where a bunch of Gargolyes and strange evil weather brews... Miroku: "Uhm the map says something about "Temple of Elemental Evil..." :D Okay maybe not...
Well, that's dumbing it down for you. :sweat:
Aurochs
08-31-2003, 05:29 PM
Regardless of how inane and redundant I think the flashbacks and soliloquies are, I don't think American translators should be allowed to take a piece of art and "improve it" to what they think is better. Let the creator's artistic vision stay in tact, if you dislike it, deal with it. I'm already irritated enough by anime censorship. (But I realize that in this society and these circumstances, there is an obligation to do so. I don't want to get into a big discussion about censoring anime. Just in general, the idea of TV censorship is obnoxious)
4Kids and Sabin revise anime enough as it is. The Japanese version of "Digimon" might actually be good, for all I know. (But I severely doubt it)
Animation Otaku
08-31-2003, 05:31 PM
4Kids and Sabin revise anime enough as it is. The Japanese version of "Digimon" might actually be good, for all I know. (But I severely doubt it)
Uh, original Digimon is good. But that's getting off topic. :sweat:
Nightfall
08-31-2003, 05:43 PM
Censorship sucks. Which is why (and excuse me for going political here) I intensely dislike the new "Justice" department handling of such things. Patriot Act my demon rear end. In any case rant over.
Back on topic, regardless of how it might be edited, I'm at least glad we CAN get to watch it. Some how I doubt kids in say Pakistan or parts of India get to watch ANY anime.
Aurochs
08-31-2003, 05:54 PM
Probably in India or Pakistan. India has a relatively large upper-class, as does Pakistan. Home Movies airs in Pakistan, I know that. And India has a CN affiliate.
Now I doubt Afghanistan or Iraq is enfranchised enough to have anime.
Nightfall
08-31-2003, 05:55 PM
Okay well my point though is valid. Uhm maybe. Cholocate anyone? ;)
You know, I'm all for preserving the artistic integrity of any show, but Inu Yasha isn't an entirely artistic show. It certainly has artistic qualities but Anime like this is especially commercial--like any marriage of commercial industry with art. The numerous flashbacks are already a concession to the commercialism of the product. They make the show more accessible to a crowd. In America the airing is different so I don't see how reworking pretty inconsequential parts of the show to match the situation would be affecting any artistic part of the show. Contrary to popular belief, being anime doesn't instantly make something artistic or "good," just like any other industry (How many movies a year are legitimately artistic and not just mindless explosions and sex?). Likewise, how come sub fans that don't speak any Japanese insist the voice acting is ALWAYS better? Some Japanese acting sucks too. If an American voice actor read the line equivalently in English they'd insist he was being hammy and melodramatic.
In summation: Excessive flashbacks are boring--getting rid of 'em is fine.
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Gunnm
Nightfall
09-01-2003, 02:58 AM
(How many movies a year are legitimately artistic and not just mindless explosions and sex?).
And what's wrong with explosions and sex? For some people (not saying me, cause I have no life) that's all there is! ;) Why else do you think they do so well?
eyager
09-01-2003, 06:23 PM
They can axe the flashbacks if Rumiko Takahashi produces a suitable replacement. The chances of that happening are nil. Keep in mind that flashbacks are nice and cheap too. Not as many new cels need to be painted if they can roll several minutes of stock footage.
Tienshin
09-01-2003, 07:31 PM
The flashbacks last for a little while longer, but as the series progress, they occur less frequently, and dont seem like a crutch for lazy writers.
Animation Otaku
09-01-2003, 07:41 PM
Probably in India or Pakistan. India has a relatively large upper-class, as does Pakistan. Home Movies airs in Pakistan, I know that. And India has a CN affiliate.
Now I doubt Afghanistan or Iraq is enfranchised enough to have anime.
Actually I believe Iraq has Astro Boy.(It was either Iraq or Afghanistan, I can't remember which)
Tienshin
09-01-2003, 07:44 PM
Actually I believe Iraq has Astro Boy.(It was either Iraq or Afghanistan, I can't remember which)
If it was Afganistan maybe it was Johnny Chimpo...
Afganistanimation?
DarthNuriko
09-01-2003, 08:00 PM
(But I realize that in this society and these circumstances, there is an obligation to do so. I don't want to get into a big discussion about censoring anime. Just in general, the idea of TV censorship is obnoxious) I agree. I hate stuff being edited. No matter how many times I have to watch those flashbacks, at least I can.
Nightfall
09-01-2003, 08:45 PM
Not to mention you can mute the sound and close your eyes to ignore those parts. :)
lostrune
09-02-2003, 03:40 PM
They can axe the flashbacks if Rumiko Takahashi produces a suitable replacement. The chances of that happening are nil. Keep in mind that flashbacks are nice and cheap too. Not as many new cels need to be painted if they can roll several minutes of stock footage.
The flashbacks are not Rumiko Takahashi's creation but rather the animators', so it's not her responsibility. If necessary, it's the animators' responsibility to devise a replacement.
If you think about it, the animators are the ones who edit Takahashi's manga. So it's not like the flashbacks are essential; they're just there to remind viewers because IY is aired weekly in Japan. That's it; no artistic "creator's intent" in there. The Japanese could decide to take those out in the R2 DVDs, and it wouldn't affect anything.
True Noir
09-02-2003, 04:28 PM
Members of Adult Swim forum. GET USE TO IT! THere are even flashbacks in the movie.
Nightfall
09-02-2003, 07:34 PM
Think I'll get used to more the fact Inuyasha is at least a nice diversion. :)
newbie
09-03-2003, 03:57 PM
If they took out the flashbacks and stuff they would just put more commercials in so it would be a half hour show. As far as the dialogue goes it still is a channel for kids, even though it's 12 at night. I can see making a more uncut version on DVD, and an edited one as well. Kinda like what they do with YYH, and others. I mean they didn't even show uncut versions of YYH when it was on late night, and they are already made.
Nightfall
09-07-2003, 11:32 PM
My only complaint is they keep recycling the eps, instead of just plowing on to the say ep 53. (Really, REALLLY want to see the dub for that one.)
Killtacular
09-08-2003, 07:59 AM
I don't see why anyone would have to put up with lazy, unskillful writing, whether it's "destroying artistic intention" or not. If I had the chance to edit the new episodes of The Simpsons to change the jokes and make them actually funny and the stories meaningful, I would jump at the chance.
**** is ****. Not art.
newbie
09-08-2003, 10:34 AM
Personally I like ep. 54 better.
Nightfall
09-08-2003, 05:08 PM
New,
True but I just want those eps on dubs before I turn another year old. (4 months)
lostrune
09-08-2003, 11:28 PM
My only complaint is they keep recycling the eps, instead of just plowing on to the say ep 53. (Really, REALLLY want to see the dub for that one.)
Depends if CN even has that ep on tape. IIRC, they originally ordered only 52 eps. How fast can Viz send them the materials and for WS to pre-view and possibly edit the next batch?
Nightfall
09-09-2003, 01:42 AM
Really? Huh. I heard it was up to 65...but if they only have 52, well then I'll deal...some how. (Sorry just don't like seeing characters I enjoy being screwed with...and then WAITING for another season or two before it gets resolved.) Sure I like Alias and Smallville that way...but at least THEY don't do their work in a language that needs translating. (Which is also why I feel sorry for the euporeans in this world when US stuff has to be translated over to their language.)
talibancity
09-09-2003, 11:09 PM
This has annoyed me recently, but Shippo (not really one of my favorite characters), he basically lives to explain what is going on. "Oh my gosh, Miroku you can't open your wind tunnel, Naraku's insects are here!" As if we didn't see them on the screen and didn't know already that they pop up every time Miroku opens his wind tunnel. For god's sake give the man some good lines, we don't need a narrator or an announcer.
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