Pilot Candidate

[True Noir]

Does anybody miss the show Pilot Candidate. I mean that was a good show and they just end the series with no ending. At least they have an OVA. The should show the series again with the OVA or at least give a chance.

[Gyro]

Heh, it's like you're joking, and yet... You're not.

Pilot Candidate was just plain bad.

[Killtacular]

Um, it sucked? And noone wants crap on Adult Swim?

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[True Noir]

Um, it sucked? And noone wants crap on Adult Swim?

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Yo dood I'll tell you that there is already crap on Adult Swim. I call Reign crap and whats up with Futurama and Family Guy. Also I call call Cowboy Bebop crap. Where is Inuyasha? That was a good show.

[Killtacular]

I think we have a new record for fastest decline in intelligence. Only 2 posts...hot damn.

[Karl Olson]

nice owned image, matt.

pilot candidate, maybe, maybe (not really), should run as filler on SVES. Adult Swim? No. The real estate is to valuable right now to even let it run weekly.

[Lord Trunks]

PC was horrible, that's why it was taken off the air. enough said!
Just let this debate die already!

[Sublime420]

Yo dood I'll tell you that there is already crap on Adult Swim. I call Reign crap and whats up with Futurama and Family Guy. Also I call call Cowboy Bebop crap. Where is Inuyasha? That was a good show.

Yeah, all that stuff you said was REALLY stupid.
But I did like pilot candidit, although I can watch little bear and be satisfied:)

[okendri]

Since WS apologized for even airing pilot candidate, the odd are its never coming back. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

[Tienshin]

I remember tuning in to Pilot Candidate when it first aired, and thinking that it was not AS material. I tried to give a few other eps a chance, and came to the same conclusion time and time again. Though it may have faired better for WS on the other block, putting it on Adult Swim was a huge gaffe.

[Wounded_Dragon]

Story was weak and the style was lame and overrused. It took 13 episodes just to set things up. Nothing central to the story really happened. It was *all* buildup.

[Karl Olson]

I remember tuning in to Pilot Candidate when it first aired, and thinking that it was not AS material. I tried to give a few other eps a chance, and came to the same conclusion time and time again. Though it may have faired better for WS on the other block, putting it on Adult Swim was a huge gaffe.

Additionally, the show is so terminology driven, that trying to make sense of it at the rate of once per week way late at night is a joke.

It would have been reasonable to run on toonami back when Outlaw Star and Big O were run on Toonami (IE, 3 hour block with space for something like PC). Now, there really isn't a home for it on the network, and IMHO, that's for the best.

[Delthayre]

Pilot Candidate was a thoroughly unimpressive series. It's premise felt awfully familiar and it lacked the quality storytelling it needed. It bumped close to mediocrity in the final episodes, but if it takes that long even to reach average, and difficult to bear up to that point, then it's not worth anyone's time.

And Angelfire: Are you a real person (take that as an existential question if you like)? Because I'm getting the feeling that you're a someones idiotic idea of a prank.

[DemonKrowno]

I must say,I enjoyed PilotCandidate. It was interesting. Though the battles weren't so great,everything else was good......better then Reign or Gundam0083(or whatever) anyway....true,I didn't think it was for AdultSwim...might of faired better on Toonami...

[True Noir]

I must say,I enjoyed PilotCandidate. It was interesting. Though the battles weren't so great,everything else was good......better then Reign or Gundam0083(or whatever) anyway....true,I didn't think it was for AdultSwim...might of faired better on Toonami...


Yeh I think your right, It was a great show but it would be better for Toonami

[DianaGohan]

I didn't really like Pilot Candidate at all during it's run, and I only saw about a few episodes of it. It's a very boring series that really seems to go nowhere, and should defintley not run on Adult Swim. Even it being filler on ASA when it was on Saturdays felt wrong.

[Caffeine King]

I think we have a new record for fastest decline in intelligence. Only 2 posts...hot damn.
:p

I've never seen Pilot Candidate so I have no opinion on this. :shrug:

[IWDP Lim]

You know, I think my main problem with Pilot Crapidate was that whoever wrote/translated/wahtever the thing really did a piss poor job of it. I was looking around, and found some website (it's not there anymore or else I'd link it) that explained the stuff on the show a LOT better than the show did, and actually made the show a lot more intresting. It actually seemed to be going on things like genocide, genetic clensing(sp?), incest, weight loss by sex, and some other stuff. Maybe it was jsut the way it was edited even that seemed to mess it up, but it did seem kind of "adult", but the way it was presented, who knows.

And if that website was full of krunk, oh well, at least it managed to make the show intresting :p

[Crimefighter]

The show was intended for Toonami before Adult Swim was created and they needed to fill it up with new material, so they decided to grab this show and plug it in given that they could extend it out for 12 weeks airing one episode a week--downside being you forgot details from the previous week. They should put it on Toonami at some point now with whatever had come out recently.

[Zechs]

Yo dood I'll tell you that there is already crap on Adult Swim. I call Reign crap and whats up with Futurama and Family Guy. Also I call call Cowboy Bebop crap. Where is Inuyasha? That was a good show.
If anything PC was the biggest load of crap to ever come on AS. If you really want to see it read the manga it's better than the anime. IMO PC was alright but by far it was the one of worst shows to ever air on AS.

[Sheamon]

Forget worst show ever to air on Cartoon Network, its the worst anime I've ever seen. I mean c'mon, instead of having an ending, they just randomly start singing!!! Thats absurd! And Bang Zoom, which usually does a good job, only used 3 female voice actors for the whole show (Georgette Rose who was Kizna and the blond helper girl, Melora Harte who was the Narrator and Teela and one other actress who did every single other voice :mad: )! Thats ridiculous! Good riddance to that rubbish.

[WingZombie38]

I saw EVERY single episode that aired on Adult Swim. I was not impressed. That show had nothing going for it. I don't even want PC to touch Toonami!

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Reign, crap? :shrug: I have got to be the only one who likes that series.

[Will Sturnick]

PC was okay, I liked it. It just took too long to get things going, and by the time things started to get interesting it was over. Chances of it even returning to Cartoon Network are similar to a snowball's chance in Hell.

[Shnay]

Yo dood I'll tell you that there is already crap on Adult Swim. I call Reign crap and whats up with Futurama and Family Guy. Also I call call Cowboy Bebop crap. Where is Inuyasha? That was a good show.

Judging by this post, I don't think you are part of Adult Swim's target audience. So if their decisions about programming seem wrong to you, that's probably intentional.

[Arxane]

Reign, crap? :shrug: I have got to be the only one who likes that series.

I liked Reign. It certainly isn't my favorite or something I'll go out of my way to see, but I enjoyed it quite a bit.

Pilot Candidate, on the other hand, is one of the biggest pieces of dreck I've seen to grace the holy timeslots of Adult Swim. When I was watching its first run, my brother walked in and tried to watch it as well. He asked me, "Why are you watching this?" I still don't have an answer for him.

Its chances of returning to Adult Swim? Let me just say that there's a bigger chance of ADV allowing a full run of Neon Genesis Evangelion on Toonami than this POS returning.

[Karl Olson]

You know, I think my main problem with Pilot Crapidate was that whoever wrote/translated/wahtever the thing really did a piss poor job of it. I was looking around, and found some website (it's not there anymore or else I'd link it) that explained the stuff on the show a LOT better than the show did, and actually made the show a lot more intresting. It actually seemed to be going on things like genocide, genetic clensing(sp?), incest, weight loss by sex, and some other stuff. Maybe it was jsut the way it was edited even that seemed to mess it up, but it did seem kind of "adult", but the way it was presented, who knows.

And if that website was full of krunk, oh well, at least it managed to make the show intresting :p

It's probably one of the worst adaptions from manga to anime ever. The manga is really excellent from what I've heard. Pity no one will probably pick it up now.

[Eddy]

Yo dood I'll tell you that there is already crap on Adult Swim. I call Reign crap and whats up with Futurama and Family Guy. Also I call call Cowboy Bebop crap. Where is Inuyasha? That was a good show.

You like Pilot Candidate...? And you consider Cowboy Bebop to be crap? Hahahaha... hahaha...

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!! That's funny.... You... you are kidding right...? ...Right?

[True Noir]

Does anybody know where to buy the manga for Pilot Candidate? Yeh I have to admit that I think some people didn't like the show cause it moved to slow, but I guess some people thought otherwise. I had seem to give Pilot Candidate a chance. So does anybody no where to buy the manga or where to buy any mangas/

[JDuncan]

"This place called stores" - Cpt Murphy

You can find manga easily at B&M stores such as Suncoast, Media Play, Borders, or you can save a great deal of money and buy manga online.

[Jaguar]

Okay, so Pilot Candidate was no Cowboy Bebop or EVA and it certainly wasn't all that much of AS material, but I thought it was okay and I'd rather see it on AS again than, oh, say, RIPPING FRIENDS.

[Vekou]

All in favor of the moderators merging all of Angelfire's idiotic threads into one and then locking them, raise your hands.

[Zechs]

It's probably one of the worst adaptions from manga to anime ever. The manga is really excellent from what I've heard. Pity no one will probably pick it up now.
Yeah it sucks the same thing happened to SM (silent mobius). The manga is pretty good but the anime really failed to do the story justice.

Okay, so Pilot Candidate was no Cowboy Bebop or EVA and it certainly wasn't all that much of AS material, but I thought it was okay and I'd rather see it on AS again than, oh, say, RIPPING FRIENDS.
Ugh don't remond me of that utter load of tripe. -_-

[True Noir]

People of Adult Swim and their fans. Please don't judge me because I like Pilot Candidate. I did actually watch an episode of reign and it was ok. IT wouldn't be something I would really care to watch. Though I take back what I say about Reign an Cowboy Bebop. Though I still have to say that Futurama and Family Guy is something i don't like. Inuyasha, Kikaider, Big O and some others I like. So please don't judge me because I like Pilot Candidate. I have been watching adult swim for 2 years and joined the forum just a week or two. And i again apologize for my rude comments.

[JDuncan]

I have been watching adult swim for 3 years and joined the forum just a week or two.
Adult Swim launched September 2nd 2001.
Today's date is July 16th 2003.

[Arxane]

Does anybody know where to buy the manga for Pilot Candidate? Yeh I have to admit that I think some people didn't like the show cause it moved to slow, but I guess some people thought otherwise. I had seem to give Pilot Candidate a chance. So does anybody no where to buy the manga or where to buy any mangas/

Unfortunately, the manga for Pilot Candidate isn't available in English. I'm sure US manga publishers saw the enormous backlash against the anime and refused to touch the manga, not realizing it's better than the anime ten-fold.

Animenation.com, however does sell the import manga, so you might wanna try there.

[Mog]

There was no "Drop it into the bottomless pit of hell and watch it burn" option, so I had to pick No.

You should put more options on your polls.

[Zechs]

There was no "Drop it into the bottomless pit of hell and watch it burn" option, so I had to pick No.

You should put more options on your polls.
Is said pit still open cause I wanna drop Ripping Friends and Tekken in as well.

[JetMaster5]

Critic: It stinks!

[Sublime420]

Okay, so Pilot Candidate was no Cowboy Bebop or EVA and it certainly wasn't all that much of AS material, but I thought it was okay and I'd rather see it on AS again than, oh, say, RIPPING FRIENDS.

I thought it was pretty good as well... It wasn't riviting but it held my interest. But to be fair, I'm not an extreamly critical person. The battles were horrible (especially sense the entire series was based around it), they could learn a whole lot from vandread on that page.
But, even though the show was developing slow, I thought the developement was pretty interesting. Plus the guy with esp was really cool. He had a nice "ora" around him.

[Steve Jester]

Hello People!!!!:D Geee.... doesn't this bring back memories? :D Now, people, please listen. As most of the people on this site know I am the hugest Pilot Candidate fan known to mankind (at least on TZ). As much as I want to have PC back on the air, to quote neocrisis550, "Chances of it even returning to Cartoon Network are similar to a snowball's chance in Hell." And I realize this. Anyway, let the defend-a-thon comence!

You know, I think my main problem with Pilot Crapidate was that whoever wrote/translated/wahtever the thing really did a piss poor job of it. I was looking around, and found some website (it's not there anymore or else I'd link it) that explained the stuff on the show a LOT better than the show did, and actually made the show a lot more intresting. It actually seemed to be going on things like genocide, genetic clensing(sp?), incest, weight loss by sex, and some other stuff. Maybe it was jsut the way it was edited even that seemed to mess it up, but it did seem kind of "adult", but the way it was presented, who knows.

And if that website was full of krunk, oh well, at least it managed to make the show intresting :p

OI! There is some truth in this quote. But, most of the truth is the manga version. Victim destroying planets is genocide, don't know about the genetis clensing (can't spell etheir) as far as I know there's know incest (unless there's something going on between the pilot and repairer of Tella Kalisto who happen to be brother and sister). Weightloss by sex, oooooooohhhhh..... that's a half truth. Yes, Roose (the guy who magickly dropped 40 or so pounds) and Wrecka (his repairer) did have sex (or a relationship like that, and this is to my knowledge) but not to loose the weight. It's Roose's EX (the power of the pilots) that allows him to shapeshift, causing him to drop the poundage. I hope this clears it up.

Unfortunately, the manga for Pilot Candidate isn't available in English. I'm sure US manga publishers saw the enormous backlash against the anime and refused to touch the manga, not realizing it's better than the anime ten-fold.

Animenation.com, however does sell the import manga, so you might wanna try there.

WHICH SUCKS!!!! Ah well, I'll just have to learn Japanese!

Alright people, I'm done.

(for now)

[Sketch]

I don't see why they don't just edit out some stuff and slap it on Toonami. I think I'd rather see that then Justice League reruns.

[Karl Olson]

I don't see why they don't just edit out some stuff and slap it on Toonami. I think I'd rather see that then Justice League reruns.


I wouldn't mind at all seeing it get one strip through on toonami, just see if it's more coherant that way.

[IWDP Lim]

OI! There is some truth in this quote. But, most of the truth is the manga version. Victim destroying planets is genocide, don't know about the genetis clensing (can't spell etheir) as far as I know there's know incest (unless there's something going on between the pilot and repairer of Tella Kalisto who happen to be brother and sister).

Actually, just going by that site, the way I understood it all was that the EX stuff was a man made genetic mutation that was suppsoed to enhance, um, something (combat abilities I think, it's been a while since I thougth about this), but as the people that had it were having kids, it started to become too unstable in them (the kids), which in turn began creating Victem. The whole GOA program was created as a way to get the kids off the colonies and as a way to (unknowingly) purge themselves of the EX by "fighting back" Victem, but of course it also killed them in the process, thereby makign sure EX was written out of the human geneitc code. It was originally one mecha per colony, but as the colnies were destoryed, the mechs were brought together, until it was all just the one colony with the five Godesses. Then the show happened, and 0 and Angst Boy are like brothers, their sister is that Etheral chick at the end of the show (probably also teh one 0 saw in the Goddess), and their dad is guy running the whole GOA thing, who was the guy in the room with Ethey, and those two are like, doing it.

As I said, that's basically what I gathered from the website, and there was a lot more, but the sites gone so I can't go over it and refresh what I came with exactly :shrug: .

Weightloss by sex, oooooooohhhhh..... that's a half truth. Yes, Roose (the guy who magickly dropped 40 or so pounds) and Wrecka (his repairer) did have sex (or a relationship like that, and this is to my knowledge) but not to loose the weight. It's Roose's EX (the power of the pilots) that allows him to shapeshift, causing him to drop the poundage. I hope this clears it up.

Well, at least that is. Hell, I'd buy the manga though if it was translated, just to actually have the story so it makes more sense...

[raykremer]

The anime club here showed the fansubs right before CN had them on. It certainly moved slowly, but that wouldn't have necessarily been a bad thing except that they never got to resolve anything. Apparently the Japanese audiences hated it too and the show was canceled. I gotta download me the OVA sometime to see if they give it a proper ending. The storyline is decent, really, I think they just didn't do so well on the execution.

[Sampo]

Plotless candidate? Gah I hope I don't ever see that show again... Man that show's story moved like molasses. Even after 12 (?) episode run, you still didn't know much about the enemy except they are bug things called "victim".. heck the pilots were still in training!

Dang I remember when I saw "candidate for Goddess" flash across the screen on my TV for the first time, I thought it was some kind of beauty pageant.. :p

[Steve Jester]

Actually, just going by that site, the way I understood it all was that the EX stuff was a man made genetic mutation that was suppsoed to enhance, um, something (combat abilities I think, it's been a while since I thougth about this), but as the people that had it were having kids, it started to become too unstable in them (the kids), which in turn began creating Victem. The whole GOA program was created as a way to get the kids off the colonies and as a way to (unknowingly) purge themselves of the EX by "fighting back" Victem, but of course it also killed them in the process, thereby makign sure EX was written out of the human geneitc code. It was originally one mecha per colony, but as the colnies were destoryed, the mechs were brought together, until it was all just the one colony with the five Godesses. Then the show happened, and 0 and Angst Boy are like brothers, their sister is that Etheral chick at the end of the show (probably also teh one 0 saw in the Goddess), and their dad is guy running the whole GOA thing, who was the guy in the room with Ethey, and those two are like, doing it.

Well, I'm not going to say your wrong, because this is the first time I hear of it. (In alll the manga translations I've read, in all the fansubs I've watched and all the sites I've been to) I haven't heard that Victim were created by the first people with EX, but that's an intresting explination. Of course, if you follow through with EX being a genitc muation and creating Victim, then it would make sense that GOA would be in place to clense the gene pool, kinda like the consentration camps in the Holocaust (no offence to any one, just making my point)However, there is one flaw. If the true pupose of GOA and the Goddesses were to wipe both EX and Victim from the universe, what happens to the pilots who don't die in battle but don't have any more EX (remember, they still have the genitc make up that they have EX, they just can't use it)? Do the kill them or do the get a nice retirement plan? Answer, they can retire or enter the normal workforce. Evidence: Azuma, the instuctor, was a pilot (probably for Eva Leena)

As for Zero, Hiead ("Angst Boy") and Teela ("Etheral chick") being brother and sister, that is popular theroy. no one has yet to confirm that. However this is the frst time I've heard of the good Doctor (not the "Madonna in White") being their dad, although that would make yet another place for incest if your right (The good doc and Teela are geting it on, that my friends is proven)

[deathscythe51]

Does anybody miss the show Pilot Candidate.

HELL NO! That show was possibly the worst thing ever to air on TV.......well maybe Pokemon is worse, but they're close. AS has done us all a favor and put that show where it belongs, the trash.

The should show the series again with the OVA or at least give a chance.

They will not ever do such a stupid thing, especially after insulting the show themselves. Nobody liked it the first time, why would they care enough to watch it a second time for an ending that would probably be the same crap the rest of that series was?

[Crimefighter]

The show wasn't THAT horrible. Geez. Now what I need, can someone put up a summary of episode #13 which is the one episode OVA after the end of the initial series?

[wrenchien]

it probably would be nice to see it again, but strangely.
to see female mechas that men pilot as well.. just unusual.

[Char Aznable]

No, actually the show WAS REALLY BAD! I didn't like the plot and never understood it. It sucked! Never.........ever......................bring it back again!

[Master Moron]

Honestly I don't really see the difference between Pilot Candidate and Big O. I mean both series just built up to no finish. Everyone is dying to see the conclusion of Big O with the new season, yet no one cares about the conclusion of Pilot Candidate. Yeah, Big O looks like it kind of sort of might be going somewhere, but so doesn't Pilot Candidate. I mean, what do we know about the Victims or the Goddesses? Not much. The series was obviously going somewhere. Personally, I don't particularly like Big O or Pilot Candidate. 13 episode series with no conclusion really don't work for me.

[Wounded_Dragon]

Because Big O wasn't a convoluted cliched mess. Honestly, it took 13 episodes of PC for the story to just START. Sure there was action and history, but those 13 episodes were ALL buildup.

This is not to be confused with buildup and twist. You drop into Big O and you know pretty much what's going on. And then stuff gets added.

You're just confused with PC for the most part.

Notice how the more knowledgeable posts about PC in this thread involved a web site and manga research? The anime just can't stand on its own.

[Sampo]

There is no argument about both series being incomplete due to not showing the rest of the episodes. But there are differences between the two:

Big O has great voice actors, unforgettable characters, most of the episodes contributed something to the main plot, and fun Giant Robo action!

On the other hand, the only things that I remember from Pilot Candidate are: Really bad dubbing, pilots training and training, agonizing snail paced plot development, the guy with the glasses (Mr. middle finger) finding something interesting towards the end, and two girls singing together even though one of em almost got a pilot killed...

As for why people want to see the conclusion to Big O vs Pilot Candidate.

Due to popular demand when Big O first appeared, Cartoon Network went through the trouble and got the rest of Big O's episodes. This gives the impression that, HEY people loved/are in love with Big O (even though it was incomplete) and want more!

If a huge amount of people loved Pilot Canidate, maybe CN will get more episodes?

[Zach Logan]

Pilot Candidate was one of the better shows of the original Adult Swim Action block. Stop bashing the underrated.

[Shnay]

Yes, "underrated," I'm sure that's the problem. I could maybe see how people could say "It wasn't that bad," but (try as I might) I can't see how someone could call it good, let alone great.

The original action block wasn't very good, but it was good enough that Pilot Candidate wasn't one of the better shows. It's hard to imagine a block like that.

[Master Moron]

Because Big O wasn't a convoluted cliched mess.

It wasn't? Most of the characters in Big O are cliches. You have the cool, sophisticated hero, the butler, the sultry woman who sometimes works with the hero, sometimes against. I'm watching Big O on Adult Swim and the story seems just as messy as Pilot Candidate. Not to mention the fights are just as boring as Pilot Candidate. And it seems to me that Big O takes just as long to build up the story. I mean, it's on the 8th episode and what has happened? Not much. Have we learned anything? Not really.

You know if you think about it, Evangelion could have stopped on the 13th episode and the show would be almost as bad a Pilot Candidate. I mean, Evangelion builds up for at least 13 episodes, and most of those first 13 episodes are boring as hell. Actually, if Pilot Candidate is accused of anything it should be accused of ripping off Evangelion's formula.