So...I got Engaged Today.

[Chris Sanders MSX]

I'm engaged at 18 years old.

Yes I know. Happened 15 minutes ago. Wana know how it happened ?

Well I didn't tell you guys but I gave Danielle that promise ring, just to say I'd be there for her forever no matter what. It only ran me about 54 dollars because I found a really good deal like 50% off or something at a soon to be closed jewlery shop. It was a really nice ring, So I got it of course. While out with her family, some one said the ring and made a big deal about it saying it looked like an enegagement ring. Then her whole family started tripping asking Danielle was it true. She was like "It's just a promise ring" and then I guess someone was like, "not from the looks of it".

Days later she went with her aunt to look at wedding bands for her wedding and her aunt suggested she get the promise ring tested for fun. They tested it and not only were the diamonds real but the band was white gold. Danielle came back and asked how much I spent, I went I'm not telling. I also through in some smooth line but I forget what it is.

Then today she calls me and asks "Are we engaged ?" I pause going um errr.. Well no, cause you still have doubts and may wana date around in college, trying to make her answer the question. Then she goes again, "Are we engaged ?" I go why ? Then she says Because That's sort of what I told 2 of my best friends. And they are so excited for me. So then she goes again, "So are we engaged ?" I go uh, I don't know cause of the college thing.. Then she goes " I'm giving YOU the chance here to make the decison." And I go kay, Then yeah. She get's all happy. I try to get a grasp on what I just did.

Then she goes, "now you have to give me the ring all over again and do this the right way. It's not official yet." I go Ooookay. Then we get off the phone and here I am. I'm fixing her lunch tomorrow. So odds are that's when It's going down. <B>I like the idea but come on.</B> Hopefully the reallity that we haven't even been together a full 2 months yet (we've been dating on and off for like 7 months, but I'm easily the best boyfriend she's ever had) will set in and If not odds are we'll break up again in between now and before college let's out. So I'm not really bugging out over this.

[Drachentöter]

:eek: Holy Majangoes, Batman!

Whoa, someone's moving way too fast, and I'm thinking it's not you. Yet, you still have some blame to shoulder for what may turn out to be an awkward and embarrassing situation.

For starters, I believe if it's on the lady's RIGHT ring finger, you have officially proposed. The left ring finger is the type for acceptance of promise rings and such. So check that out.

For seconders, you should really pay attention to what you buy. If it looks like an engagement ring, you could be held responsible for some hurt feelings. For thirders, why you would even joke to her about actually being engaged is beyond me.

Sounds like a buttload of hot water to me.

Or it could all turn out to be some funny anecdote that'll turn out nicely. :sweat:

[Chris Sanders MSX]

:eek: Holy Majangoes, Batman!

Whoa, someone's moving way too fast, and I'm thinking it's not you. Yet, you still have some blame to shoulder for what may turn out to be an awkward and embarrassing situation.

For starters, I believe if it's on the lady's RIGHT ring finger, you have officially proposed. The left ring finger is the type for acceptance of promise rings and such. So check that out.

For seconders, you should really pay attention to what you buy. If it looks like an engagement ring, you could be held responsible for some hurt feelings. For thirders, why you would even joke to her about actually being engaged is beyond me.

Sounds like a buttload of hot water to me.

Or it could all turn out to be some funny anecdote that'll turn out nicely. :sweat:

Yeah I know. Stupid me not wanting let anyone down. Besides the idea of marrying her isn't so bad, But If history serves me correctly, we'll break up eventually. And if we don't then, I have a wife. But Seriously though as much as I love the girl. I don't think we'll actually get married, I mean we have to be together like an actual 2 years for me to even think it's real like that. Honestly I'd love to be with her forever, beacuse right now I am in love but she's gotta prove some things. And I figure if she can hold to this, then I can actually give my heart fully instead of holding back and the marriage thing would seem real.

So we'll see what happens.

[The_NewCatwoman]

Wow, I literally screamed inside my head.:D Just the thought of getting engaged is so wonderful. I'm glad you got such an amazing deal on such a fantastic ring. If it works out, I hope you two are happy together forever, and if it doesn't, well at least you two get along well.

tNC

[Red]

That's one of the weirdest storys I've every heard X_X

[Drachentöter]

Wow, I literally screamed inside my head.:D Just the thought of getting engaged is so wonderful. I'm glad you got such an amazing deal on such a fantastic ring. If it works out, I hope you two are happy together forever, and if it doesn't, well at least you two get along well.

tNC

Fascinating. :p

Seriously, I wonder why engagements appeal so much to the female persuasion of the species, yet we males are somewhat....adverse to it. At least in earlier stages of life.

[Mike Spartz]

Well congrats...just make sure your serious about it or it might turn out pretty bad. Also, no offence, but I think that getting engaged at 18 is a little early. Ah what do I know, I don't even have a girlfriend.

good luck :)

[DianaGohan]

That's one of the weirdest storys I've every heard

Maybe when you find love, you'll understand it more. :D

Seriously, I wonder why engagements appeal so much to the female persuasion of the species, yet we males are somewhat....adverse to it. At least in earlier stages of life.

Well that may be true for you, but I've been asked to be engaged a few times in the last 2 years and turned it down because of either not being ready or not feeling that it was the right think to do. Not all women will instantly agree just when a guy flashes the word engage around.

Anyway, that's great news for you Chris, and I hope that you will find love and happiness with this girl for as long as you want.

[Reed Richards]

man just by the tone of your post you sound like you're in trouble


sit her down, and explain the WHOLE SITUATION-- top to bottom. Explain about the ring, why you selected it (dont reveal the price, simply say you liked it a lot and it was in your price range) and explain that you might have made a faux-paux in the manner you gave it to her. be totally honest-- you like her a lot and someday, when you're older and ready, you might go down this road with her, but for now you're too young and theres too much uncharted territory in front of you.

The very fact that she would TELL her friends that she was engaged says something is terribly wrong with this situation. You should NEVER be pressured into proposing to ANYONE no matter HOW MUCH you may like her. This will almost certainly lead to trouble down the road.

on a minor point, how the devil did you get a white gold ring with real diamonds for 54 dollars? are you sure the jeweler is on the up-and-up? or did you happen on it in a pawn shop?

[ZorBrak]

WOAH....UM Chris? You know what you just DID man??? ACK!.....I mean...Danielle? And right before you go to COLLEGE?! Don't mean to sound too mean but....are ya goin a lil nuts? I'll be having a little chat with you on AIM young man! ROFL, seriously dude...BACK DOWN QUICK!

[Failure]

Dude, you shouldn't be backed into something like this. While getting engaged isn't exactly the same as getting married, it's still a big deal. It's something you shouldn't just wander into. The way it sounds is she's leading you into it, and you're following just because you're afraid to set everything straight. If you didn't intend it to be an engagement ring, then don't tell her otherwise.

[StarScream64]

Sounds like Danielle is jumping the gun.
Heh, maybe she'll change her mind if you tell her how much you got that ring for. :p

Don't worry. One day you'll both look back on this and LAUGH. :D :D :D

[BrendaBat]

I personally feel that no one should get married if their age still has a "teen" in it. During the late teens/early 20s people are under a lot of stress because high school has just ended and they have to figure out what they'll be doing with their future. A marriage will just add to the pressure and stress.
Then today she calls me and asks "Are we engaged ?" I pause going um errr.. Well no, cause you still have doubts and may wana date around in college, trying to make her answer the question. Then she goes again, "Are we engaged ?" I go why ? Then she says Because That's sort of what I told 2 of my best friends. And they are so excited for me. So then she goes again, "So are we engaged ?" I go uh, I don't know cause of the college thing.. Then she goes " I'm giving YOU the chance here to make the decison." And I go kay, Then yeah. She get's all happy. I try to get a grasp on what I just did.
Ya know, that story sounds like it came straight out of a sit-com :D
Seriously Chris, if you have doubts then its probably a bad idea to jump into engagement. This is the time in life when you're supposed to 'find yourself' and enjoy your youth. It'll be hard to do that if you already have a fiancée.
Thats my advice. But I don't know you or your girlfriend personally so you'll have to take it with a grain of salt :)


Origionally posted by VortexInfanite
Seriously, I wonder why engagements appeal so much to the female persuasion of the species, yet we males are somewhat....adverse to it. At least in earlier stages of life.
I'm the exception to that rule. Right now, I'd sooner DIE than get married! :p

[Patrick Bateman]

Damn, dude. :shrug: I think you totally got shoved into this. First off, you didn't decide to get engaged, you were told you were engaged. Bad move. Best of luck to you.

[Chris Sanders MSX]

on a minor point, how the devil did you get a white gold ring with real diamonds for 54 dollars? are you sure the jeweler is on the up-and-up? or did you happen on it in a pawn shop?

I got it at a damn cart in the mall. I was just looking for something nice and moderately priced. I hope with the cart being in the middle of the mall it was on the up-and-up. Maybe somebody misspriced the ring or something. All I know is both me and my mother (who saw the ring) was shocked, but when she showed me the markings inside the ring was indeed white gold. I mean it was cheaper than usual because the cart was closing down and everything was 50-75% off.


You know I still need to ask her why she told her friends what she did. But my whole thing about this is, we already planned to go into college dating exclusively so no change there. We both expressed doubts though because of not wanting to limit ourselves in college but both still being afriad of losing one another. Then there's the fact that we kept on breaking up and that's why I'm not taking this as serious as I should.

If we've barely been able to last a full month(we'd stay friends but continually get back together), I don't see us making it past a year for the engagement to stick. And if it did I wouldn't complain. I've always been a one woman guy and If things work out, then great. If they don't, I'm still the same me and I shouldn't have a problem finding someone new.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Stumbling into an engagement situation by accident is like a concept for a bad TV sitcom.

Unless you're really 100% into it (not from the sound of it), you'd better undo this little knot before it's too late. Otherwise you'll be sitting by the fireplace 15 years from now telling a story to your 10 year old daughter about how you got roped into an accidental marriage with her mother...

[James]

Chris mate, sort it out - now! :p

Teenagers... how do they get into these situations....

*smacks Chris around the head and leaves the room*

[Discloner]

This whole thing sounds rather...odd.

Frankly if I was to get married to someone, I wouldn't be like "I don't expect it to work out, but if it did Cool!" I feel that marrage is knowing this is the person you want to be with forever and not the biproduct of wheither it works out or not. But that's just me....

Suppose it did work out? Weddings cost a heck of a lot of money.....how would you plan to flip the bill for that and College, and even if you waited till after college, you'll still most likely be paying off some major bills and a hefty wedding tab on top could cause major problems.

I dunno, if your looking for opinions mine is that this isnt such a good idea. From this end it just seems like your treating this more like an "eh" thing...which to me engagment is not.

If you not looking for opinions, then good luck.

[TimTwoFace]

Well Chris, congrats, but...I'd be very cautious about this entire situation. I have a friend that became engaged last Christmas at 21 and after she and her bf had known each other very well for 7 years, I still thought it was early and too fast. This...well...if your heart's in the right place, that's what really matters, but I'd still think about this really long and hard before rushing into anything.

-Tim

[Chris Sanders MSX]

This whole thing sounds rather...odd.

Frankly if I was to get married to someone, I wouldn't be like "I don't expect it to work out, but if it did Cool!" I feel that marrage is knowing this is the person you want to be with forever and not the biproduct of wheither it works out or not. But that's just me....

Suppose it did work out? Weddings cost a heck of a lot of money.....how would you plan to flip the bill for that and College, and even if you waited till after college, you'll still most likely be paying off some major bills and a hefty wedding tab on top could cause major problems.

I dunno, if your looking for opinions mine is that this isnt such a good idea. From this end it just seems like your treating this more like an "eh" thing...which to me engagment is not.

If you not looking for opinions, then good luck.

I thought that the brides parents paid for the wedding ? :p It's like this. YES I would love to spend the rest of my life with this girl but past history with her shows that, that just will not happen. Not to mention that we haven't even KNOWN each other that long for me to take this all that serious. I'm not getting my hopes up, but if things work out then I'll be more than happy.

You think it's odd ? Try being me. I do indeed think it's too early but in the scope of our current relationship it doesn't change much of anything. It only makes things better I'm assuming and if she proves herself I can get just as serious about this whole thing as she might be. Zorbrak or SJJ might know better than some of you others because he knows what I went through with this girl and why I can't take this all that serious. Right now I see it as another one of her "things".

[Steve Jester]

Chris, and I aparently speak on behalf of the rest of Toonzone seeing as though most of us have expressed our opinons, your in trouble. This is not a "Let's Go To Vegas And Elope" situation you got yourself into, but it's one step below. Get yourself out ASAP. Trust us, if you are not 100% sure of this BACK OFF. You will only hurt yourself and possibly your girlfriend if you don't. Of course if you're 100% sure, congrats! And forget everything else in this post.

[Weatherman]

Well, I suppose I should say congradulations first, and a very long "ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?" seccond. Hope this works out for ya dude. Hey, maybe this could even be a good thing as maybe now she'll think about doing something that could hurt you since she's made a promise like this to you. Conversely, it can also prove that you really are not ment for wach other. Best of luck, you'll need it, and possibly an ice pack. ;)

[Elven Moon]

Wow, that's quite a mess you're in! Don't accept this engagement just to avoid hurt feelings or anything ;) I'm bad with advice (especially considering I've never been engaged before, let alone dated), but let her know this isn't going to happen even though it wouldn't have lasted long (from what you say) anyway.

[Nick Biped]

Yikes. Well, in my own opinion, I think 18 is rather young to be getting engaged (I personally wouldn't consider it until my early 20s...if I even had a girlfriend, that is :sweat: ), especially since it sounds like this wasn't really planned by you and you seemed somewhat hesitant to say "yes". I'm not sure why, but this seems like a plot line right out of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air or something. :p

Anyways, regardless of the outcome of this, I hope everything works out the way you want it. If you can get out of this engagement without too much emotional damage, then good. If you think sticking to the engagement is the best, then that's good too. But I'd think about something like this very hard.

[czyznyck99]

If you lived in Tanzania and inherited your parents' 5 acres of farmland, you wouldn't have a problem saying yes.

Ah, to be young in America. Get me out, now.

Later.

[Digu Volz]

I'm not sure why, but this seems like a plot line right out of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air or something. :p


'cause it basically was, just so the two could have sex... And this doesn't seem much different. Get out NOW, you really don't want any part of marriage. It can definitely be a chore if you don't have the right mindset, finances, environment, person, etc., and it doesn't seem you do.

So, basically what most people have already said... End this, pronto.

[ZorBrak]

Fake your own death. :shrug:

[Drachentöter]

Move to Yemen. :p

[Nightflower]

*shakes her head mournfully* This can only lead to tears...

[The Old Maid]

And here I was all set to congratulate you on your happy news! I'm not withdrawing the congrats, though.

You do know that whatever you decide, the good people of ToonZone got your back. :)

It's possible that by the time you read this far in the thread, the situation's already been resolved. Anyhow, I had a question. Are you and she going to the same college? That might settle the issue all by itself.

About the ring finger : the left hand is meant for engagement and wedding rings, the right hand for friendship. But putting a friendship ring on the wedding finger doesn't constitute a contract.

Usually when a man proposes to a woman, he does in a way that's unmistakeable. (That's why you see so many offbeat fun proposals like Guy Asks Football Stadium to Post "will you marry me?" On The Big Board.) The reason he makes it unmistakeable is that he wants an unmistakeable answer : namely, Yes or No.

You see, there's a rule of love and marriage that goes like this : the best time to say "I love you" for the first time is when you're already sure the answer will be "I love you too." (There is no other correct answer -- after all, how would you feel if the other person said, "Uhhh, thanks, I guess.") And the rule of marriage is you only propose when you already have good reason to expect the answer to be Yes. I know, I know. Some people force the issue "to make so-and-so grow up" because "I don't want to wait my whole life." It happens, but that doesn't make it fair.

So, another question. Why did her opinion change suddenly when she learned the ring was valuable? Is she a person who's easily impressed by money, or is she just really happy because she thinks that's how much you care? You need to figure out which one. See, if money influences her feelings, her head might be turned later by someone with more of it.

I'm also a little cautious that she told her girlfriends she was engaged when she wasn't sure of it. Sounds like this gave her a lot of status among her friends. So that's another thing you might want to check on. If status influences her feelings, her head might be turned later by someone with more of it.

My idea is this : firmly state that you won't get married until you've finished college. If pressed for a reason, state firmly that "we are too young." If she says, "well, you may be too young, but I'm not" -- then tell her to find some guy she thinks is old enough for her, but you're not changing your mind.

Oh, and you're right -- the custom used to be that the bride's family pays for the wedding. Things are more flexible now. If a groom wants some say in the wedding he should expect to help pay ; or, if the bride has been self-supporting for several years, she should expect to pay part of it. The only reason I mention it is that the ones who pay for the wedding will reasonably assume they should decide the date. So you need to make it really clear that you won't show up for too early a date. If they want to go ahead and throw a wedding, fine, but they may have to find another groom.

Telling her you want to finish college first is designed to reassure both the Sincere-Girl-in-Love and the Bossy-Control-Freak, and therefore should not be elaborated upon under any circumstances.

But there ARE reasons to wait (the reasons you don't want to tell her, remember?), and here they are :

1. In college you'll be on your own for the first time. You'll get a change to learn money management, time management, and other aspects of independent living. You need to find your own voice before you'll be ready to assume responsibility for a family.

2. In college she'll also be on her own for the first time (unless she's living at home). You'll watch her learn (or fail to learn) the same independent living skills you're learning. Too many teens move directly from being supported by Daddy to being supported by Hubby. When you ask her to wait, you are taking the time to find out if she actually loves you, or if she just wants to be taken care of.

3. Finishing college gives you both four years to sort things out. But if you still aren't sure, "finishing college" conveniently becomes "getting my master's degree/Ph.D. degree" (which take 6 and 8 years, respectively). So there's a built-in escape hatch. ;)

(Did I mention you don't want to tell her these reasons? If you do, she'll be backed into a corner and will feel compelled to prove you wrong.)

Now if this young lady is the real deal, she would wait -- not the rest of her life, obviously -- but a few years isn't that long.

It all comes down to this : you admit you love her -- it just sounds like you're worried that's not enough. Personally I think the issue is trust.

See, I've seen people fall in love with people they would never have chosen as friends. (It doesn't mean the other person is downright bad ; maybe they're just unreliable.) On the other hand, I work with a few people who are in arranged marriages (going on 20 years now), and they get along just fine. What makes a relationship work is trust. Love can grow out of trust, which is why arranged marriages can work if they're done properly. But trust doesn't always grow out of love -- because love is a gift but trust is earned.

You need to answer the question of whether you trust your fiancee to do right by you. If the answer is No, well, four years may let her drift away on her own. If the answer is Yes, then in four years you'll both have a good education and a better future -- plus she showed how much she cared about you by supporting your dream. You worked hard and you really earned that trip to college. Getting married before you graduate might make it harder to finish.

Best wishes. And keep us posted. :)

[Terminatah]

I think you should just get married because it sounds like she's already whipped you into her little puppy dog.

-Terminatah

[Majin_Megabyte]

Good job MSX-sama. Champange for everyone! It good to hear you got engaged. All us old school Cnxers are proud of you. :)

[Supreme]

If you go through with it, you'll just be aniother divorce statistic.

You HAVE to go into a marriage in love with the person, and actually proposing to them straight off, not being tricked. It was never your fault for getting the ring. Unless you gave her the ring and said "Will you marry me?", there should be no assumptions. She seems like she's missing something in her life and that getting married will be a cure-all.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

I think you should just get married because it sounds like she's already whipped you into her little puppy dog.

-Terminatah

Yeah, Chris and Doug Christie of the Sacramento Kings should exchange phone numbers! ;) (Wondering how many people will get this joke)

[Failure]

Yeah, Chris and Doug Christie of the Sacramento Kings should exchange phone numbers! ;) (Wondering how many people will get this joke)

Bill Simmons rocks! :p I plan on getting all my friend's Christie jerseys the day they get married.

[RZetlin]

Chris Sanders MSX I don't think you should marry under these circumstances.

Marriage is a serious commitment.

You should not marry out of pressure.

In my view, 18 years old is still young, there's your future that has to be built first.

I think you should have a serious talk with your girlfriend about marriage.

Hold off any wedding until you are really sure about it.

[JetMaster5]

Are you crazy? Marrying at 18 yrs old? Unless you did something that MUST lead to marriage (a.k.a., getting her pregnant, which I hope you didn't do), then why marry so early? Take some time out and enjoy yourself before you seriously become committed to marriage.

[Sailor Chibi Otaku]

My Mother got married at 18. My brother was two months and two days old when they got married. She just turned 18 a little over a month ago when her and my Dad got married.

Fast forward to 2003. This will be their 26th wedding anniversary, BUT, her circumstances were different then. She graduated high school at like 15, she pretty much had to take care of her younger siblings most of the time, she cleaned and cooked and sewed most of the time. She was much more mature for her age then than most anyone else then and most every 15 year old these days.

My parents had me in 1980. She was 20. She wasn't 21 yet. She said that she'll be having kids before she hits 21, so I got lucky.

My Mother was ready to get married and to settle down. Her genius helped her as well to do school much faster and finish much earlier.

My Mother and I have conflicting views on this. As far as I'm concerned, dating, sex, marriage and kids should wait until you're 18 or older. My best friend got engaged last Christmas at age 22. Her boyfriend is two years older than her. They were ready for that step and I agreed. :) She's a very smart woman. She's almost done university. :) They decided to get engaged at an early age which is perfectly fine. They're both adults and done high school. He has a steady job in the military and she'll have a university degree under her belt in little less than a year. :) They're well prepared. :) They've been together for a while now. :)

And yes, if the ring is on the left ring finger (here in North America, anyway), it's an engagement IF the guy purposes. I mean, some men and women wear rings on that finger for just because, you know? In England (and other parts of Europe I DO believe), the ring goes on the right ring finger. :)

Don't jump the gun since you're still in high school. You're too young still. I have a friend who proposed to his girlfriend when they were still in high school, but due to her cheating ways, they broke it off.

Now, before anyone says anything: just because I'm single (I've never had a boyfriend), I should keep my mouth shut. Nothing doing, why? ALl I have to do is look around me and talk to friends to be in the know.

[EightOh]

This week, on the Chris Sanders Show...

Do your parents know the "big news" yet? ;)

Seriously, though, I can see why you said what you said to her, since I'm a bit of a pushover when it comes to firmly saying "No" to people when I think it might hurt their feelings. This is definitely something more serious than going somewhere you don't want to go to make a friend happy, but it sounds sort of similar, in a way. This is definitely the kind of thing that could turn out really badly if not handled the right way, though I know you're smart enough to figure that out on your own.

Good luck in trying to set things straight, man.

[Chris Sanders MSX]

Yes we are going to the same college and yeah my parents know but they are taking it as little more than a joke.

I thought I'd be smart enough to get myself out of the situation but I dug a deeper hole. Yesterday we uh did something your only supposed to do when your married. Hint hint. :sweat: Oh boy, I mean I'm not ready to get married but I've always been a long term relationship kind of guy so this could work out just like all my other relationships, a few months or a year of greatness until something happens to ruin it all.

Throw in the fact that we aren't even considering marriage until after college and this isn't that big of a deal. It's just like any other girlfriend I've had except if it works out for a few years, we get married, just like it's supposed to go. I just really hate though that I did what I did yesterday after having it in my head all day to tell her I wanted to stick to exclusively dating and that I'd ask her to marry me when I was ready.

God, I love you guys. And your right, this whole thing does sound like it came out of a sitcom.

[Weatherman]

..............................ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, heheh. :o

I suppose that a sign of something good, I think.........or not. :sweat:

Is anyone else really really confused at this point?

[ToonamiFanatic]

..............................ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, heheh. :o

I suppose that a sign of something good, I think.........or not. :sweat:

Is anyone else really really confused at this point?

I agree I am confused. sounds like a sitcom

[Mackenzie Rainelle]

O_____o;;;;; Er....not really much I can say that hasn't already been said better. Good luck, and I hope it turns out for the best.

[Conekiller]

...well, I hope everyhting works out well for everyone in the end.

(was that vague enough?, should I be a politician)

[Theking]

Well I can only go by my experience.

I waited 4 yrs, after meeting my wife b4 I asked her to go on a first date with me.

Then we dated for about 5 yrs b4 I asked her to marry me.

Now we will be married for 6 yrs on the 6th of July.

TheKing

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Well I can only go by my experience.

I waited 4 yrs, after meeting my wife b4 I asked her to go on a first date with me.

Then we dated for about 5 yrs b4 I asked her to marry me.

Now we will be married for 6 yrs on the 6th of July.

TheKing

Now that's a slow paced romance! I like it.

[Nightflower]

Now that's a slow paced romance! I like it.
Me too! Congrats. And congrats on your new son! :)