Maybe we could ship this one to Kabul...

[happyheathen]

"Men should take care of women, and if men were taking care of women (today) we wouldn't have to vote." -- Kansas state senator Kay O'Connor blames the demise of family values on women's suffrage.


I'm not going to touch this one...:)

[BourgeoisBuffoon]

Geez...how the heck did a jerk like HIM get to be a senator?! I may be male, but I belive in women's equality and sufferage. Someone like O' Conner obviously needs to get smacked upside of the head...that's utter crap he's talking.

...Oh, and I hope he does NOT have a daughter. If he does, I feel for her....

[happyheathen]

Originally posted by BourgeoisBuffoon
Geez...how the heck did a jerk like HIM get to be a senator?! I may be male, but I belive in women's equality and sufferage. Someone like O' Conner obviously needs to get smacked upside of the head...that's utter crap he's talking.

...Oh, and I hope he does NOT have a daughter. If he does, I feel for her....

uhhh...

read carefully - Kay is female (as in 'we wouldn't have to vote')

[Vigo Sprax]

Lets stop women's sufferage! They've sufferaged enough.

I remember when the man show whent out on the streat and convinced like a dozen women to sign a petition to stop their sufferage.

[happyheathen]

Originally posted by Vigo Sprax
Lets stop women's sufferage! They've sufferaged enough.

I remember when the man show whent out on the streat and convinced like a dozen women to sign a petition to stop their sufferage.

here we have another example of reason #1 why democracy is a bad idea:

people are stupid!!!

(p.s. - if you want your treason to succeed, call it 'revolution' - you get much better press :D )

[BourgeoisBuffoon]

For once, gimme a break, Happyheathen-I thought Kay to be male as well as female name...and now I'm gonna get it. :rolleyes:



SAID BY HAPPYHEATHEN: here we have another example of reason #1 why democracy is a bad idea:

people are stupid!!!



Well, as Churchill said, it's the worst out there-except for all the other government types out there...

[Nightwing]

Now now, I'm sure there's a logical explaination to why this woman has this ghastly opinion. I think laziness has something to do with it, albeit a minor factor on the list of posibilities.

I must say that's disturbing, as well as how a lot of people can be (remembering that "Stop Women's Sufferage" skit from The Man Show) but for some inexplicable reason I still see hope somewhere. I'm sure the numbers and arguments against this horrid illogical opinion are strong enough not to make it a continuing problem.

[Singin' Stray Cat]

I have a hard time believing that a woman senator doesn't want to vote, for some reason. If anything, you'd think she'd want to encourage more people (of both genders) to get up off their lazy duffs and vote, since voter turnout has been so low for the past few elections. (Key words here: you'd think. Of course what's expected and what happens turn out to be totally different things...)

I was proud when I finally got my voter's registration card, and got to vote in last year's election. It made me feel a bit more like an adult and citizen with responsiblities, and that I actually had a part in something. Yes, yes, I know that's idealized talk, but remember, that's how one usually feels doing something for the first time, when the novelty of it hasn't worn off. Sad to think that this senator doesn't think other young women should have a chance at that...

I've seen this quote in the halls of a building on my campus, this thread reminded me of it. Unfortunately I didn't catch who said it. Perhaps one of you more intelligent people know who said this?

"Democracy used to be a good thing, but now it's gotten into the wrong hands."

[Joe Tully]

Here's the whole article, taken from http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010928/us/senator_women_voting_1.html

Pol Opposes Women's Suffrage

OLATHE, Kan. (AP) - A female state senator says if women's suffrage were being voted on today she would not support it, because the 19th Amendment was the start of a decades-long erosion of family values.

``I'm an old-fashioned woman,'' Sen. Kay O'Connor told The Kansas City Star. ``Men should take care of women, and if men were taking care of women (today) we wouldn't have to vote.''

Delores Furtado, co-president of the Johnson County League of Women Voters, had asked the 59-year-old Republican to the league's ``Celebrate the Right to Vote'' luncheon, and O'Connor responded: ``You probably wouldn't want me there because of what I would have to say.''

Furtado said she was shocked by O'Connor's view. As a state senator, Furtado said, ``she is the beneficiary of a system she doesn't support.''

O'Connor said she does vote. But she said she believes that if men had been protecting the best interests of women, then women would not be forced to cast ballots and serve in the Legislature. Instead, they could stay home, raise families and tend to domestic duties, she said.

The 19th amendment giving all U.S. women the right to vote was ratified in 1920. O'Connor said the amendment began a societal shift that eventually encouraged women to trade homemaker roles for careers.

She said she entered the workplace only because of her daughter was ill and medical bills were mounting.

O'Connor, of Olathe, was elected to the state House of Representatives in 1992 and won a Senate seat last year. She isn't worried if voters don't like her views.

``If I don't get re-elected, my only punishment is to go home to my husband and my roses and my children and my grandchildren,'' she said. ``And if the trips to Topeka get to be too much and my husband asks me to quit, I would.''

[Calhoun07]

Originally posted by Vigo Sprax
Lets stop women's sufferage! They've sufferaged enough.

I remember when the man show whent out on the streat and convinced like a dozen women to sign a petition to stop their sufferage.

Oh, yeah, a classic episode! And only one or two women really knew what they were talking about.

And while people may be...uh...uneducated (did you really have to use the word "stupid???") on certain things, that doesn't make democracy bad. And for those people who are uneducated, they have the media to tell them how to think!

[Vigo Sprax]

I do agree somewhat with her views, not so much in women not voting but that the feminist movement has lead to an erosion in family values. Actually I don't understand why women are so intent on being a man's "equal", seems to me like they had a pretty free ride...Why would a woman want to pay the check? I could never hang around a woman who was so eager to prove themselves as "good as" a man, since all the girls I know say they don't need to prove it. :D

[Psycho Fox]

Originally posted by Vigo Sprax
I do agree somewhat with her views, not so much in women not voting but that the feminist movement has lead to an erosion in family values. Actually I don't understand why women are so intent on being a man's "equal", seems to me like they had a pretty free ride...Why would a woman want to pay the check? I'm gona stand way over here just incase the females of this board start droping anvils on you :cool:

[Maxie Zeus]

Is this really a constructive thread?

Why do we need to discuss O'Connor? As far as I can see there are only two things that might be said about her remark: Either you can attack and ridicule her, or you can express a certain degree of cautious agreement. The first isn't constructive, and the latter invites a board war.

If you're going to reply to this thread, I'd urge you to be careful.

[Vigo Sprax]

Originally posted by Psycho Fox
I'm gona stand way over here just incase the females of this board start droping anvils on you :cool:

Ah well, I guess I'm just lazy and wish people would pay for my dinner, I'm not putting women down...just saying they had a lot of good things going on and some of those extreme femenist are ruining some of that. I in no way think women shouldn't have the right to vote, I just don't understand why some women are so intent on being a man's equal, often when it was previously in the woman's favor.

[Psycho Fox]

Originally posted by Vigo Sprax


Ah well, I guess I'm just lazy and wish people would pay for my dinner, I'm not putting women down...just saying they had a lot of good things going on and some of those extreme femenist are ruining some of that. I in no way think women shouldn't have the right to vote, I just don't understand why some women are so intent on being a man's equal, often when it was previously in the woman's favor.
Psycho Fox cautiously walks back to Vigo Sprax
Back in the late 60s my mom took a trip to NYC with a freind they had over 1,000 dollars in cash. They wanted to go into a club but they told her she needed a male escort. She stuffed a few hundred down his pants yet she still didn't get in. My mom having that much money was rare at the time very few hi-paying jobs allowed women also back then for operations you needed a man's signiture even if it was life threating. A husband can sign his wife out of his pension without her signiture. So don't give me that line that life was easy for females back in the day.

I'm going to stand away from you now again just incase.

[Vigo Sprax]

I'm not talking about big things like voting, equal oppurtunity jobs, etc... I'm talking about things like paying a check, holding a door open, etc... many things extreme femenist find a way to take offense in. I'd say it also annoys me when women raise a stink about not being able to join the wrestling team, of course it also annoys me when some guy complains he wasn't allowed on the Cheerleader team or he was refused a job at some place like Hooters.

To save myself though, I believe I'll be stepping out of this thread from now on...it seems every reply I make only digs me deeper into a hole which I do not wish to be in.

[Psycho Fox]

Originally posted by Vigo Sprax
I'm not talking about big things like voting, equal oppurtunity jobs, etc... I'm talking about things like paying a check, holding a door open, etc... many things extreme femenist find a way to take offense in. I'd say it also annoys me when women raise a stink about not being able to join the wrestling team, of course it also annoys me when some guy complains he wasn't allowed on the Cheerleader team or he was refused a job at some place like Hooters.Oh why didn't you say so. That is different