Police raid college dorms for file trading!

[RZetlin]

It's finally happening!

The police is knocking down doors because of file trading (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1471719/20030506/index.jhtml?headlines=true)!

Hide your computers, the police could be knocking on your door at any minute! :eek:

[Parallax]

*goes to download Russian fire wall*

Wait, I don't do file trading! What do I care? :p As long as they don't delete my manga.

[zmanjz]

you know, I don't like the Idea of the police doing the RIAA's dirty work

(Especially since the RIAA's far more sinister.)

[Jaguar]

Well if you have KaZaA or Morpheus, you have no worries. The RIAA tried to pursue legal action, but Sharman (KaZaA and Morpheus's parent company) turned the lawsuit over. Apparently they are out of jurisdiction because they are located in a different country, some island country somewhere.

[Stewie]

That's just overkill.
The RIAA is taking this in the wrong direction. They need to make the file-sharers look bad. Instead they come off as Nazis.
Idiots.

[dendawg]

Well if you have KaZaA or Morpheus, you have no worries. The RIAA tried to pursue legal action, but Sharman (KaZaA and Morpheus's parent company) turned the lawsuit over. Apparently they are out of jurisdiction because they are located in a different country, some island country somewhere.

You're half right....they can't touch Kazaa itself, but it's open season on traders.

[Elven Moon]

You'll never catch me alive, coppas!

[Outlander00]

Good thing I dont use those unless its music not heard in the mainstream (rap battles, etc.) :p

[czyznyck99]

At first I wasn't too worried about this, but the story itself is a cause for alarm, at least on campus. The fact that the school police did the raid means that other campuses with their own police force (at my school, for example) could organize similar raids. Start burning now...

Later.

[Supreme]

Two things that spiring to mind that signify that this is something that (most) people need not worry about:

1. These guys are idiots for running it at school. Their privacy is not as well protected there, especially since it you're basically "owned" while using campus facilities (school network, buildings, etc).

2. I'm betting that someone snitched. That's usually how these things come to light. When I was in junior high, a group of us secretly put games on the server, with restricted access. There were a couple of guys who would watch us play on and off for about 6 months(we were allowed to be unsupervised at times). One day, one of them asks to be included, but was declined. The very next day the teacher calls us in before class and gives us some story about "monitoring" us all along. He suspiciously added, "and before you go bullying anybody, no one told me. I found this out completely on my own." So, the story of the police monitoring these guys sounds a little fishy to me, especially since local law enforcement technology and know-how is usually 100 years behind your average 12-year-old.

[zmanjz]

So, the story of the police monitoring these guys sounds a little fishy to me, especially since local law enforcement technology and know-how is usually 100 years behind your average 12-year-old.

Yeah,I hear that, I'm decent with computers, and plan to use my skills to help fight criminals, BUT EVERY LAST ONE of their computer resources should be devoted to fighting Pedophiles and Identity thieves. It's like being on a street corner where a Person's robbing a bank, and another's Jaywalking, and deciding to go after the Jaywalker.

[Zechs]

Oh no people are getting stuff for free we must stop this filth from taking monery from the already poor music indusrty. :rolleyes: These people are so stupid. If they would get with the compines and set up a way to make the users pay for what they dowload they could make more money and it might slow file sharing down some.

[James]

Oh no people are getting stuff for free we must stop this filth from taking monery from the already poor music indusrty. :rolleyes: These people are so stupid. If they would get with the compines and set up a way to make the users pay for what they dowload they could make more money and it might slow file sharing down some.

I don't agree. People have been copying music for decades in form of radio to tape/tape to tape/CD to tape/CD to CD and now Net to CD. Things haven't changed that much. It's just becoming easier.

I'm not advocating piracy in any form, but the fact this is a majot issue is indicitive that the Industry needs to change tactics if it is to make more profit. As I've said before, the DVD market has found ways to make films enticing to buy via special features. Music has to find away of enticing people into buying CDs. I think basically it's a price issue. Drop the price and piracy will be hit hard.

[Chris Sanders MSX]

I don't trade, I have the option to shareturned off on my Kazaa Client. So I guess I should playthe song made famous by MC Hammer if they ever come to my dorm because "They Can't Touch this" ! :cool: :p

Okay that was lame. I'm sorry guys. :)

[Drachentöter]

This is a perfect follow-up to John Stosel's segment on yetserday's 20/20.

The forces trying to stop file sharing are losing and will continue to lose until they learn to accept it as a legitimate format of selling thier product. This may in fact be the best thing to happen for the consumers.

The music industry has ripped off people for too long with formula albums and discriminitave exposure. The internet has allowed millions to sample songs from unkown artists without shelling out hard-earned (or stolen, what-have-you) money.

In order for the industry to compete with internet swapping, they have to put some originallity and effort into their product. Including bonuses in DVD format is a good example of this.

Eventually, this will be the standard format for music anyway. It will become regulated and legalized. Soon everyone will be able to pay less for the songs they WANT, not MORE for a collection of crap with one or two bright singles.

[Chris Sanders MSX]

This is a perfect follow-up to John Stosel's segment on yetserday's 20/20.

The forces trying to stop file sharing are losing and will continue to lose until they learn to accept it as a legitimate format of selling thier product. This may in fact be the best thing to happen for the consumers.

The music industry has ripped off people for too long with formula albums and discriminitave exposure. The internet has allowed millions to sample songs from unkown artists without shelling out hard-earned (or stolen, what-have-you) money.

In order for the industry to compete with internet swapping, they have to put some originallity and effort into their product. Including bonuses in DVD format is a good example of this.

Eventually, this will be the standard format for music anyway. It will become regulated and legalized. Soon everyone will be able to pay less for the songs they WANT, not MORE for a collection of crap with one or two bright singles.

I totally agree. I mean I've bought albums even after downloading more of it off the net, because usually with some artists the single is the only good part of the entire CD. My collection mostly consists of singles, old songs, underground songs, mixtape songs, intentional internet leaks and a few songs off of an album that I'm interested in buying to see if it'll be worth the cash. And most other users are like this.

Besides the sales of artists such as 50 Cent or John Mayer for example show that if you have something of quality, originality or worthwhile(ity?) to offer people will buy it.