SVES Talkback - .hack//SIGN - "Epitaph" (Spoilers)

[Killtacular]

Enjoy tonight's .hack//SIGN adventure.

FYI, .hack//SIGN will be on SVES until at least August 23rd (episode 26). It is unknown if there will be a second run of the show. With CN's programming as fickle as it is, be sure you're taping this first run, just in case.

[Romanesque]

Today's episode has one of my favorite little side plots in the series, involving Tsukasa. The ending is just so... so... emotional. I believe there was an audio clip from this episode in some of the early ads, which makes me kind of nervous about how the character's performances will be, but I hope it comes together well in the end.

It also involves a minor character who actually does show up again......in .hack//DUSK, where we actually learn a little bit more about her...Enjoy tonight's .hack//SIGN adventure.

FYI, .hack//SIGN will be on SVES until at least August 23rd (episode 26). It is unknown if there will be a second run of the show. With CN's programming as fickle as it is, be sure you're taping this first run, just in case.Or else, go buy the DVD's. :D

--Romey

[Conekiller]

such an ominous title......

can't wait

[Jude Santos]

oh yes, this episode is great...i'll talk about it later, i dont want to give away spoilers :brak:

[Romanesque]

Already noticed what I believe is one small mistake. At the beginning, Kurim states something about a message posted on a BBS on a fansite... yet, from the rest of the ep (and also from the games), it's clear that the message was posted on "The World's" BBS...

--Romey

[The_Dominion]

My goodness how depressing. The way that grunty looked was just so sad....

[Amano Ginji]

;_;


.......

[Animation Otaku]

The whole grunty bit brought tears to my eyes, and the end was rather touching, to say the least. More about the key is being revealed, and this Helba character sounds interesting. Is this whole plot beginning to take form? I'd guess it'll take a little more before the plot really flows. I had suspected Crim had his own motives, but Sora's comments made it seem more likely, though given it is Sora....

[G1Ravage]

*cries*

My tears are flowing like waterfalls!

[RedBoot]

Poor, poor Grunty...

So very sad.

In other news, Sora is still really cool, and becomes moreso each week.

[Conekiller]

Already noticed what I believe is one small mistake. At the beginning, Kurim states something about a message posted on a BBS on a fansite... yet, from the rest of the ep (and also from the games), it's clear that the message was posted on "The World's" BBS...

--Romey

that's where HE first heard of the debate, not where it originated from.

Good Ep, naturally, nice to see Tsukasa actually play the game (with nice touches like him feelin cold and stuff)

I played a demo for .hack//MUTATION yesterday, and went to a frozen field and stumbled onto a purple cherry, so I knew he was goonna go to one, I love the feeling of unification this story has

what was the Grunty girl's name?

Sora's getting cooler and cooler, but I wonder why BT sent Mimi to meet with him, I thought he like BT more (he likes his girlies firey)

I really enjoyed the coloring in this ep, especially the fireplace scenes, Bear's Blue and BT's hair color really attracted my attention.

It's also nice to see Tsukasa trusting Mimiru more (him actually looking for her) and not porting off when he damn well feels like it. with her actually reaching out to him and letting him touch her was so sweet, not to mention leps and bounds in the right direction for their developing friendship.

Tsukasa looked decidedly male in this flashback (as opposed to ambiguous in previous ones) but it could just be a case of the flashback being skewed for the audience (like in Memento)

A

[Jude Santos]

Already noticed what I believe is one small mistake. At the beginning, Kurim states something about a message posted on a BBS on a fansite... yet, from the rest of the ep (and also from the games), it's clear that the message was posted on "The World's" BBS...

--Romey

its not a mistake, Krim was talking about a debate going on one of the fansites wheter the Key of the Twilight exists or not, he was not refering to the original message that was deleted in "The World" BBS.

[Romanesque]

They handled the ending pretty well, better than I'd expected, anyway. Still preferred the original dialogue, but you could probably guess that by now...

I also believe this was the first time I'd heard Kurim / Crim's dub voice... my new least favorite, bleh. Completely lacking the air of 'coolness' that needs to be there. There were a few moments during the first speach of the episode where he spoke in a slightly higher pitch that would have been almost perfect for the role, but then he slipped back down into a tone that's waaay too deep.

Ah well, at least the script was more or less accurate, save for a few spots. They pretty much got all the important stuff, so I'm happy.

Something of note for all yea who've played .hack//INFECTION...Observe the name of the episode, "Epitaph". Then remember that the message spoken of was written in German and supposedly mentions the 'Key of the Twilight'... hmm...

--Romey

[Conekiller]

Something of note for all yea who've played .hack//INFECTION...Observe the name of the episode, "Epitaph". Then remember that the message spoken of was written in German and supposedly mentions the 'Key of the Twilight'... hmm...

--Romey

yeah I noticed that too, I guess it's the same post eh?

too bad i don't remeber what it said at the beginning of the game

the little girl's place was realy colorful this time, but Maha wasn't around, I wonder why.....

[Romanesque]

that's where HE first heard of the debate, not where it originated from.Sure about that? I clearly remember it otherwise, but I may have just heard it wrong. Now I wish I'd taped it...I played a demo for .hack//MUTATION yesterday, and went to a frozen field and stumbled onto a purple cherry, so I knew he was goonna go to one, I love the feeling of unification this story has.Some of the frozen fields in .hack//INFECTION also have white cherries, like the one he thought might have been purple. Even more unification. :Dwhat was the Grunty girl's name?They didn't specify, actually.Tsukasa looked decidedly male in this flashback (as opposed to ambiguous in previous ones) but it could just be a case of the flashback being skewed for the audience (like in Memento)It's possible that his memory isn't completely accurate, but I don't think that's actually the case here.its not a mistake, Krim was talking about a debate going on one of the fansites wheter the Key of the Twilight exists or not, he was not refering to the original message that was deleted in "The World" BBS.Alright, I give up... my mistake. =x

--Romey

[BlackCat]

This might be my favorite episode so far. We got to learn so much more about the Key of the Twilight and some things that were referred to in .hack//INFECTION, like the post at the BBS and Helba. The relationships here are always kept interesting. Sora is quickly becoming one of my favorite characters with his quirky personality and his interesting connections. I now have more questions than ever with all of this information and the cliffhanger that .hack//INFECTION ended on.

The other side of the episode with Tsukasa helping to raise the baby Grunty was so sad. It was so saddening to see how sick the baby was and how it was crying. I thought for sure it would be okay when Tsukasa brought the cherries. It was so emotional at the end with Tsukasa's feelings about it. :(

I couldn't see anything wrong with this episode. 5/5 stars.

[Dark]

OK, so supposedly there's 29 episodes to .Hack//sign (source: AnimeNFO (http://www.animenfo.com/animetitle,862,hjhhmj,.hack__sign.html) ) but CN is only showing 26 of them? Confusing.

THis episode was one of my favorites, and dispite the so-so voice acting it was still as warm and fuzzy as I remember the sub bieng as well as a good focal point in tsukasa's emotional development. Definitly an class A episode.

[Amano Ginji]

Nope, there are 26 episodes, with 1 epilogue episode(27).

Oh, and the 27th was just released a few weeks ago.
Or so I've heard.

[Dark]

so we get the clip show, but not the epilogue. Oh well, good excuse to buy the DVDs

[Jude Santos]

OK, so supposedly there's 29 episodes to .Hack//sign (source: AnimeNFO (http://www.animenfo.com/animetitle,862,hjhhmj,.hack__sign.html) ) but CN is only showing 26 of them? Confusing.
.

the series officially ends at 26. episode 27 was made as a 'supplement' of sorts (and deals with mimiru). as for 28 and 29, i have no idea...(is it even out yet?). episodes 27, 28 and 29 were made some months after the series actually ended, and were made becuase SIGN (and .hack in general) was so popular.

anyhow, its totally fine if CN only airs the 26 episodes, becuase those are the tv episodes, and as i said, it officially ends at ep. 26 (and goes on to the games)

[Jude Santos]

Nope, there are 26 episodes, with 1 epilogue episode(27).

Oh, and the 27th was just released a few weeks ago.
Or so I've heard.

there are apparently, episodes 28 and 29. that one guru guy in AnimeNation mentioned it

[Hades]

that was very sad, while i didn't cry i felt so sorry for the little Grunty. reminded me of a sick kitten i once had. i expected everything to be back to normal once the owner returned.

[Romanesque]

Wait, wait... so the 27th episode is no longer just a rumor? Yay! Even if it is just an epilogue, it'll be good good.

Anyone have any sources for the info on #28 and #29? IM me about it, if spoilers are involved in any way. Need to keep those faaar away from the talkback threads, for now. :D

--Romey

[Amano Ginji]

there are apparently, episodes 28 and 29. that one guru guy in AnimeNation mentioned it

Ahh....I haven't heard about those.....

[Jude Santos]

Ahh....I haven't heard about those.....

i havent either, i just looked at AnimeNation just now, episode 27 is titled "Intermezzo", episode 28 is undecided and episode 29 is titled "Gift". all three are supplemental episodes like ep. 27.

[BlackCat]

I heard about episodes 27, 28, and 29. Are there any plans to release it on DVD with the current order or separately?

[JTurner954]

Seemed like a good episode ( I missed some parts). I also felt sad when the grunty died. I also liked the new music too. I would of liked to know why or how the creature became sick as I don't recall the girl (who I though was Mimiru at first) explaining it. Why did Tsukasa agree to "babysit" in the first place? The only thing I can come up with is that it was something to keep him busy instead of sitting around doing nothing.

Another cool flashback. I have a theory on them which I will put in spoilers in case I am correct:

Could these sequences show how characters like Tsukasa and Mimiru found out about the online server? Or, perhaps why they joined "The World" in the first place (Tsukasa venting frustrating from bullies and the like?)

I wish this show aired more than once a week. It's a bit hard for me to remember what happened from previous weeks.

Overall grade: B

[Romanesque]

I would of liked to know why or how the creature became sick as I don't recall the girl (who I though was Mimiru at first) explaining it.Believe it or not, this actually does get explained, but not in this series (which is surprising, since it's a pretty minor point unrelated to the rest of the plot). For now, just be happy with the 'it wasn't vaccinated' explanation...Why did Tsukasa agree to "babysit" in the first place? The only thing I can come up with is that it was something to keep him busy instead of sitting around doing nothing.My interpretation was just that he felt pressured into it, which is pretty much what happened. Judging from other flashbacks (like the one with the kitten), he actually does have a supportive, nurturing side... though that really has more to do with his actions after accepting the job, rather than his reasons for taking it.Another cool flashback. I have a theory on them which I will put in spoilers in case I am correct:
Could these sequences show how characters like Tsukasa and Mimiru found out about the online server? Or, perhaps why they joined "The World" in the first place (Tsukasa venting frustrating from bullies and the like?)Actually, the spoiler tags probably aren't necessary in this one case, even if you are partially correct. You're also partially incorrect, though. Another thing to note is that the fuzzy B&W scenes represent two things. In both cases, they represent scenes in the real world. However, some are flashbacks of Tsukasa's childhood, and others are taking place in the present. You have to judge which is which from the context. Hope that helps. =)

--Romey

[Mackenzie Rainelle]

::siiiiigh:: That was depressing. Tsukasa goes through all that freezing, and the grunty dies anyway. Ain't that how it usually goes in life though?

On the happy side - Sora is now my favorite.

[Jaguar]

On the happy side - Sora is now my favorite.
Just now? He had my vote from last week's episode!

[Mackenzie Rainelle]

Just now? He had my vote from last week's episode!

Well, he rocked last week, but I was still a little iffy. Now I am absolutely assured of his coolness. His best line was still from last week though.

[Hades]

Well, he rocked last week, but I was still a little iffy. Now I am absolutely assured of his coolness.
same here. at first i hated Sora because he acted like such a jerk, now he's great. i can't wait to see how he's going to get along with Bear and the others together.

[Demon_Child]

I could describe this episode in one word-SAD but it had some great other points too like Tsukasa's and Mimiru's developing friendship. But at the end i couldnt help but think that Aura/Mother's Voice/Floating Girl killed the grunty just to make Tsukasa sad especially after her evil ending line last episode about using hope to bring out despair. Well anyways she creeps me out....

[Obi]

Could someone please tell me what happened? I missed it. :(

[TnAdct1]

Could someone please tell me what happened? I missed it. :(

Hopefully, this information is correct.

The main storyline in the episode involves Tsukasa being asked to watch over a Gruntly while its owner is away. Unfortunately, the Gruntly gets ill and, despite Tsukasa's best attempts to cure the illness, dies in a sad moment. Meanwhile, the rest of the gang are discussing the "Key of the Twilight" and about a message that was posted on the message board (and eventually deleted) a few years ago. It turns out that Sora knows someone who has a copy of that message. However, he'll only give that information one condition: the others must make him a member of the group that's looking for information on the "Key of the Twilight" (sorry, Mimiru).

Joe Klemm

[TsuiTsui]

Something of note for all yea who've played .hack//INFECTION...Observe the name of the episode, "Epitaph". Then remember that the message spoken of was written in German and supposedly mentions the 'Key of the Twilight'... hmm...

--Romey

Maybe a spoiler? JIC:
At the end of the episode, I was wondering why the episode title was named "Epitaph" since I did not hear any of the characters mentioning that exact word or saw the stone tablet appear as it did in Episode 1. As I was thinking through the reasoning behind the title, I thought about this "Key of the Twilight," the major point of interest and discussion of this episode, and assumed that this mystery item was linked to the "Epitaph."

HELBA! I did not see that one coming! I love how this series tie in with the PS2 game.

Yes, I agree that Sora is alot more tolerable than before, now that he plays a significant role in helping out solve this mystery behind the lost message and the Key of the Twilight!

I love the new BGM version of "The World." I do not think this is in the soundtracks, though. :(

And regarding the really touching moments between Tsukasa, Mimiru, and the little Grunty cutie ... awwww ... *getting teary-eyed*

[Ikwig]

A+ A+ A+ - I really loved this episode. Some great character interactions; more discussion on the Key of the Twilight. (And thanks Romey: your spoiler confirmed my suspicions! :) ) And Tsukasa went from being Mr. One-dimensional (well, okay, he wasn't that bad, but his personality had pretty much gotten stuck in the rut of sullenness) to being human! Gotta love character growth: all of that hard work for one little creature, which ultimately dies; and then his final scene with Mimiru - staying when she asked him to, and then actually beginning to open up to her for the first time. I was very, very pleased with the crafting of this ep. :)

Oh, and I agree with everybody who pointed out how well the show and the game tie in with each other - being able to watch one and play the other definitely enhances the whole experience!:D

[Amano Ginji]

Hopefully, this information is correct.

The main storyline in the episode involves Tsukasa being asked to watch over a Gruntly while its owner is away. Unfortunately, the Gruntly gets ill and, despite Tsukasa's best attempts to cure the illness, dies in a sad moment. Meanwhile, the rest of the gang are discussing the "Key of the Twilight" and about a message that was posted on the message board (and eventually deleted) a few years ago. It turns out that Sora knows someone who has a copy of that message. However, he'll only give that information one condition: the others must make him a member of the group that's looking for information on the "Key of the Twilight" (sorry, Mimiru).

Joe Klemm

It's Grunty*

Or Puchiguso if you want the Japanese name.

[Artemis]

It's Grunty*

Or Puchiguso if you want the Japanese name.


Japanese is all I go by as far as .hack is concerned. Puchiguso, Ginkan, and Kurim 4ever! :p


This was always one of my favorite of the character building eps. I didn't shed a tear, but I did feel kinda sad. I was tired of Tsukasa until this episode. And the thing with Mimiru at the end was cool. Always loved their interactions.

[The_Dominion]

So what is Bear's job? If I had to guess it would be a doctor

[LightAngel]

I have to say that this episode is my favorite as yet. That poor little Grunty. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one sniffling. It was so touching seeing Tsukasa and Mimiru together as they were.

[DrTomoe123]

Well, until tonight, Tsukasa was my least favorite character.

But after seeing last night's episode, that changed. Seeing him want to help that Grunty so bad, it actually made me cry.

Last night made me cry twice, once when Sakai won the Iron Chef Tournament and seeing him hug Chen like that, and the eipisode of .hack//SIGN.

[The Detective]

Wow last night's episode was really impressive. We got to learn a lot more about the Key of the Twilight thing. Which reminds me of a question I have: Just what is the Key supposed to be? I mean Mimerou said something about it turning the game upside dow or something to that effect but that doesn't really answer to me what it is. And you have characters like BT who want it for themselves and I wonder why? I mean does it give you power in the World or something? Okay I don't expect you .hack fanboys to answer all my questions (you got to watch the show for some of this) :p I'm just talking out loud. Er, typing out loud I guess.

Anyway the grunty thing almost made me cry. It was so sad and pathetic looking. Really made sad.

And does what Bear do in real life have ANYTING to do with the way he acts in the world? You know how philosophical and investigative he is.

This is the last question I promise! Do the video games help you understand the series any better or give you any information that you might not find out from the series? And just how do the video games fit in the time frame of .Hack? Okay I'm going to slip in one more question I keep hearing er reading people mention .Infection and .Dust and other dot names are these just names of the video games?

[Romanesque]

Which reminds me of a question I have: Just what is the Key supposed to be? I mean Mimerou said something about it turning the game upside dow or something to that effect but that doesn't really answer to me what it is.(That's 'Mimiru', btw.)

So far, you're only really supposed to know about as much as you know. The Key of the Twilight is a legendary item that does... something. It'll become clearer within the next few episodes.

Here's a little hint...The key exists to open / unlock something.And you have characters like BT who want it for themselves and I wonder why? I mean does it give you power in the World or something?BT and others, for whatever reason, still approach 'The World' as a game, so they see The Key of the Twilight as something to obtain simply because it is a legendary item. That attitude gets rather aggrivating after a while, considering that they know there's more to things than just the game, but they choose to ignore that aspect of 'The World' anyway...Do the video games help you understand the series any better or give you any information that you might not find out from the series? And just how do the video games fit in the time frame of .Hack? Okay I'm going to slip in one more question I keep hearing er reading people mention .Infection and .Dust and other dot names are these just names of the video games?Some people feel the games help, but they're really not necessary at this point (they certainly weren't for me). You should also consider that the games take place after .hack//SIGN.

(.hack//INFECTION is the name of the first game, and .hack//MUTATION is the name of the second game. There are two other games, but those won't be out for a while. The four OVA's are collectively called .hack//LIMINALITY, and take place in the real world, at the same time as the games. The other thing, .hack//DUSK is a nickname for the manga and the series based on the manga, which take place after the games.)

--Romey

[Artemis]

(
Here's a little hint...The key exists to open / unlock something.

Seeing as how that's what keys are designed to do, I don't think that's much of a hint. ;)

[Romanesque]

Seeing as how that's what keys are designed to do, I don't think that's much of a hint. ;)Your point being...? ;-)

Romey
--Heh heh heh.

[Sketch]

Perhaps it has something to do with the "Book of the Twilight". You use the key to open the book. Just a thought...

[Romanesque]

Perhaps it has something to do with the "Book of the Twilight". You use the key to open the book. Just a thought...Quite possible, but there's also a lot of other "...of the Twilight" stuff floating around between .hack//SIGN, the games & OVA's, and .hack//DUSK. That might deserve its own thread once we reach episode 15 or so... I'm not even sure of all the 'Twilight' interconnections, myself.

Romey
--To those with spoilers, *no*, that wasn't a request...

[Sir Gatts]

In the way that Bear described this Key of the Twilight, it's almost as if he was stating that Tsukasahas been running the game in some sort of debugging mode. It would seem that when once acquired, that user could then face an similar fate as Tsukasa. But for some reason, Sora claims to only want to confirm its existence instead of seeking to control it. Perhaps Sora possesses even further knowledge about this Key than he has already given.

The grunty scenes were kind of depressing though. It was surprising that Tsukasa had found the will to journey throughout the world in search for an cure for the ill grunty. Yet to have to take on this task alone over the span of three days, kind of brings the question of why Tsukasa didn't seek aid in acquiring the needed materials in order to acquire them in an shorter amount of time.

Overall for this episode, 9/10.

[Jude Santos]

So what is Bear's job? If I had to guess it would be a doctor

no, bear in real life is a... (go ahread, look, its not really a spoiler)

porn star

:p

[Romanesque]

no, bear in real life is a... (go ahread, look, its not really a spoiler)

porn star

:pIt's pretty obvious, when you think about it. Just look at all the hints so far!

Then there's that scene in next week's episode... With Bear and BT. Just think about the hidden meanings... :p

--Romey

[Conekiller]

Does Bear keep track of of Mimiru's guessing at his occupation, or was that a one time gag? I'd love to see her a few episodes from now just blurting out "you're a _______, aren't you!?" and he just returns with "strike 2"

[raykremer]

Hey, wow, lots of plot movement.

We learn twice as much about the Key as we ever have before, and Tsukasa has a lesson in life. Poor guy, he really tried too.

[Romanesque]

Maybe a spoiler? JIC:
At the end of the episode, I was wondering why the episode title was named "Epitaph" since I did not hear any of the characters mentioning that exact word or saw the stone tablet appear as it did in Episode 1. As I was thinking through the reasoning behind the title, I thought about this "Key of the Twilight," the major point of interest and discussion of this episode, and assumed that this mystery item was linked to the "Epitaph."While I'll neither confirm nor deny a certain connection you've drawn, you're stringing things together quite nicely. Good work. :DAnother cool flashback. I have a theory on them which I will put in spoilers in case I am correct:

Could these sequences show how characters like Tsukasa and Mimiru found out about the online server? Or, perhaps why they joined "The World" in the first place (Tsukasa venting frustrating from bullies and the like?)Supplementary to my original reply:

This sounds like good opportunity to contribute to my effort to prove that .hack//SIGN's lyrics aren't a bunch of nonsensical engrish as some would have you believe...

From "The World"

You are here alone again,
In your sweet insanity.
All too calm, you hide yourself from reality.
Do you call it solitude? Do you call it liberty?
When all the world turns away to leave you lonely.

Skipping the second line for now, ponder the rest of this verse in light of Tsukasa's flashback sequences. For example, you could think of the first line as comparing the scene of young Tsukasa alone at the family event thing with the majority of Tsukasa's existance in 'The World' up until recently. The third line could be a comment on Tsukasa's decision at the end of the first episode, that being stuck in the game isn't all that bad. Fourth line questions just what he's thinking... he's obviously not too keen on finding a way to log out, is he? So is living in the game some sort of escape? Last line is a continuation of those questions, stating the result of his choice to be isolated. Turn away from the world, the world turns away from you. Is it really a good thing? It's also something of a pun... are they talking about the real world, or are they talking about 'The World'? Or maybe both? :D

--Romey

[The Detective]

no, bear in real life is a... (go ahread, look, its not really a spoiler)

porn star

:p
That was not a nice joke. :p Some of us believe everything you .Hack fanboys tell us.

[Michael]

sora is growing on me. I am betting he is a young person, seeings as last weeks epsiode he said "I gtg or someone will be mad" or something along that affect.

nice to see some plot though... :)

[kaine23]

Today's episode has one of my favorite little side plots in the series, involving Tsukasa. The ending is just so... so... emotional. I believe there was an audio clip from this episode in some of the early ads, which makes me kind of nervous about how the character's performances will be, but I hope it comes together well in the end.

It also involves a minor character who actually does show up again......in .hack//DUSK, where we actually learn a little bit more about her...Or else, go buy the DVD's. :D

--Romey
One my friends got me the 1st .hack//Dusk HK dvd last time they were in Chinatown.
who was the character?

And great episode, depressing ending.

[Jude Santos]

One my friends got me the 1st .hack//Dusk HK dvd last time they were in Chinatown.
who was the character?


Grunty girl, the one who left the grunty to tsukasa

[TsuiTsui]

This sounds like good opportunity to contribute to my effort to prove that .hack//SIGN's lyrics aren't a bunch of nonsensical engrish as some would have you believe...

From "The World"

You are here alone again,
In your sweet insanity.
All too calm, you hide yourself from reality.
Do you call it solitude? Do you call it liberty?
When all the world turns away to leave you lonely.

.... .... Fourth line questions just what he's thinking... he's obviously not too keen on finding a way to log out, is he? So is living in the game some sort of escape? Last line is a continuation of those questions, stating the result of his choice to be isolated. Turn away from the world, the world turns away from you. Is it really a good thing? It's also something of a pun... are they talking about the real world, or are they talking about 'The World'? Or maybe both? :D

--Romey

Your discussion of "The World" explained my reasoning behind my selection of the song's certain phrases as my signature.

:)

[ohmrbill]

This sounds like good opportunity to contribute to my effort to prove that .hack//SIGN's lyrics aren't a bunch of nonsensical engrish as some would have you believe...

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't remember anyone here saying the IN-show music doesn't make sense. It's the OPENING song that's a bunch of nonsensical engrish. ;)

[Romanesque]

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't remember anyone here saying the IN-show music doesn't make sense. It's the OPENING song that's a bunch of nonsensical engrish. ;)There have been a few people... not as many as those who complain about the opening, but they're there. =x

--Romey

[SNS]

Like everyone, I thought the ending was sad.

BTW, is that thing about fingers forming because cells die in between them true?

[Romanesque]

BTW, is that thing about fingers forming because cells die in between them true?Ayep, apoptosis, programmed cell death. Happens mostly during an organism's development in a womb or egg. Interesting to note that Aura (the floating girl) is seen as a developing, unborn child in the opening...

--Romey

[Conekiller]

this is just a reminder

.hack//SIGN vol2 Special Edition is scheduled to be released May 6th.

tihs comes with the second soundtrack.

the regular one is scheduled to come out toward the end of May

A few Questions not directly pertaining to the plot:

What's up with Bandai and release dates? Once a month would be nice

Why do the TV version and Full version of OBSESSION sound so different, and is there a Full version of the song than sounds like the TV version?

I may have asked this before bu I don't remember the answer, Who is the dancing woman in the OP?

How many soundtracks are there and if there are more thna 2 does Bandai plan on releasing them thru Special Editions also?

When is Vol 3 shceduled to come out?

[Amano Ginji]

Um....

Volume 3 should come out in August.
The first 4 LE's will come with soundtracks.
The fifth LE is supposedly going to come with a box to hold all of the games.
The sixth LE will come with a case for the OST's.

[Romanesque]

Why do the TV version and Full version of OBSESSION sound so different, and is there a Full version of the song than sounds like the TV version?This one's gonna be difficult to explain...

First, what do you mean by 'full version' of Obsession? There's the actual 'full version' which is only on a single that hasn't been released in the US and then there's the version on the Volume 1 soundtrack (TV-Size) that comes with the Limited Edition release of the first DVD. The tv-size version is identical to the one heard in the original opening (it's the same in the fansubs and, I believe, the dvd). However, the version played in the opening show on Cartoon Network sounds like a sped-up remix. I haven't heard the 'true' full version off the single, so I don't know what that's like.

Which two are you comparing?I may have asked this before bu I don't remember the answer, Who is the dancing woman in the OP?Not even I know the answer to that... though I have a few (spoiler-ish) theories about it who it could be. Ask again in a few more weeks...How many soundtracks are there and if there are more thna 2 does Bandai plan on releasing them thru Special Editions also?There are two main volumes, and one 'extra' volume... so technically, three major compilations. There's also at least one single (which I mentioned earlier) that contains the full versions of the opening and ending, whereas the compilations only contain the tv-size versions.

If anyone has more detailed info, feel free to correct me...

--Romey

[Conekiller]

Ok, you're assumptions are correct

I have heard the ~4 minute Version of Obsession, and the TV size version that airs on TV and and is on the CD that came with SpEd vol1. the TV version is more techno-y sounding than the full one I've heard, I just wanted to know if there is a ~4minute version that sounds more like the techno-y Tv size version. But I guage fomr your response that ther exists none

My thoughts on the dancing chick

the Voice from Aura's room whos playing with Tsukasa's mind

[Romanesque]

Ok, you're assumptions are correct

I have heard the ~4 minute Version of Obsession, and the TV size version that airs on TV and and is on the CD that came with SpEd vol1. the TV version is more techno-y sounding than the full one I've heard, I just wanted to know if there is a ~4minute version that sounds more like the techno-y Tv size version. But I guage fomr your response that ther exists noneJust to make sure I understood that... do you mean that the 4 minute version you heard is the same as the one heard on CN, or do you mean that it's the same as the tv-sized one on the vol1 cd? (The particular combination of terminology probably makes this all sound more confusing than it really is...)

If you mean that the tv-version on the cd sounds more techno-y than the 4 minute version, then maybe the 4 minute version is the same one they're using for the CN opening... which would actually explain a few things. It would also mean that no, there is no 4 minute version that sounds like the one on the openings of the fansubs and dvd's. Or something like that. It's too late for me to think straight. =x

My thoughts on the dancing chick the Voice from Aura's room whos playing with Tsukasa's mind Entirely possible, as far as everything I've seen goes. There are at least a couple other possibilities, of course... I hope the rest of the games clear it up. :D

--Romey

[Conekiller]

OK a little slower this time

TVversion= Techno-y sounding, also heard as the actual opening song

Full version= not as Tecno-y sounding, but longer than TV version


my question( which seems to have been answered already) is whether or not there is a longer version of the 1:30 long TV version, I like that one better, but it's so damn short (like the blink-and-you-miss-it Kingdom hearts PlanetB English Remix)

it appears it don't exist tho.

Lookit that, we've been able to keep this thread going till Thursday!

[Meson]

OK a little slower this time

TVversion= Techno-y sounding, also heard as the actual opening song

Full version= not as Tecno-y sounding, but longer than TV version


my question( which seems to have been answered already) is whether or not there is a longer version of the 1:30 long TV version, I like that one better, but it's so damn short (like the blink-and-you-miss-it Kingdom hearts PlanetB English Remix)

it appears it don't exist tho.

Lookit that, we've been able to keep this thread going till Thursday!


There is noone (I checked). However there are several version of the song. I like the club remix version.

All songs are on the Toon Radio playlist tomorrow for your listening pleasure, except for the club mix which I deleted by mistake.

[The Tentacle of DOOM]

You know, one thing I'm really enjoying about the series is the references to various estoric subjects, some of which are not only obscure but veiled. For example, not only do we have Subaru and the Crimson Knights being equated with Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table, but the mysterious post that began rumors of the Key of Twilight bears a great resemblence to the famous pamphlet that appeared in Germany that began rumors of the Rosicrucians--who were often connected to the Holy Grail...

[kaine23]

Grunty girl, the one who left the grunty to tsukasa
Which ep she shows up in?