SVES Talkback - Samurai Jack - XXXII (Spoilers)

[Killtacular]

Gotta get back!

Back to the televisionwithinsixmonthsofpreviouspremieressothatfansdon'tstartwanderingawayfromtheshow, Samurai Jack!

Gotta get back!

Back to the
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Samurai Jack!

Enjoy tonight's episode, XXXII, Jack and the Creatures. There are two "Creatures" episodes, which share no relation. In this episode, Jack teams up with "travelling" creatures, and in next week's episode, travels with an annoyingly friendly creature.

[Killtacular]

I have to say, I was really disappointed in the visuals in the past group of premieres, but this episode alone has full-blown eye candy in every shot. I'm lovin' it.

[Mugen]

Wow, Samurai Jack is sure getting his ass kicked.

[Killtacular]

.... that ending.. basically ruins the series.

Now there is no point in continuing to watch the show, seeing as there is no way Genndy will ever reach the point where Jack becomes that age (or forgets to shave for so long). I wonder if Genndy even knows what he's trying to set up.

Outside of a lame-ass ending, this episode was pretty spectacular, so thumb's up.

[Osiris]

Very good, that was one of Jack's best fights yet. My guess as to the ending is that it will be addressed in the movie which will probably be the thing to bring closure to the series.

[Cyber E.]

........MOTHER OF GOD, THAT FRIGGIN' OWNED!!!1

That was....byfar, the greatest episode of Samurai Jack ever. After such a long wait we get new episodes, and that episde was just, friggin' brillant. I cannot believe how good it was. The artwork was simply fantastic, I cannot put into words the kind of visuals I was amazed of from this episode. It was like I was watching something else. I hope every episode is like this.

-aJb
(Who enjoyed the ending, until I read Wilson's post and realized it infact was bad. @_@)

[Numbuh 4]

ah come on, the ending was cool

its good to see a new jack again, specially a cool one like this
the guardian dude was cool
"You're going all oldschool on me huh?"
overall i think it was a 5/5

~:knd4:

[Samurai Rocko]

Very good, that was one of Jack's best fights yet. My guess as to the ending is that it will be addressed in the movie which will probably be the thing to bring closure to the series.

I agree, I think the series will end in a movie in which Jack is that old. This episode was one of the best, I like the blue guy, he's preety cool.

[David Lucas]

Ya know, after the first few episodes I started asking, "What's the point of Jack helping people? When he goes back in time to kill Aku and stop the future from happening, the majority of the people he helps will cease to exist. The reason they're there is probably because the mom and dad were slaves of Aku and because of which met up, without Aku, none of the aliens and etc will ever be in that predicament and will not meet up and not have kids.

So even though Jack's going back in time to stop the world from being enslaved, by doing so, he's going to "murder" in a way, countless COUNTLESS lives by making it so they never existed.

Now unless Genndy tries an DBZ approach to time travel, where by Jack can kill Aku in the future and liberate THEM, and then go back into a different time line to his past which is seperate from the future.....

....Jack really oughta just work on killing Aku in the future and learning to live in this new world. What's more, I think one or two more characaters would be a nice touch. A best friend for Jack, and a romantic interest would at least give Jack people to confide in when the going gets rough.

I know Jack is supposed to be the ultimate warrior, but he has a good soul, you can't expect us to believe he's content just being a loner. I'm sure there's someone out there with as much skill and as much hatred for Aku that Jack does.

Genndy has a good franchise with a lot of potential on his shoulders right now, he's not accessing it. Never before have I heard of a action cartoon with 2 characters. Jackie Chan made the right move with the second season, although it's still all about the talismans, there are new enemies, new friends, and new skills.

If Gen plans of having this show last longer than 2-3 seasons, he needs to kill off Aku and introduce someone new. It can even be Aku's reincarnation for all I care, just I'm getting tired of Jack having only 2 motivations and never reaching either one.

On the plus side, this episode was pretty god damn straight. However that was the most god awful design they coulda given "future jack", the cape was just too reminiscent of the Roman/Greek warriors and a CROWN?! Yes, I can see it now, a japanese samurai and the son of the ruler of Japan wearing a crown straight out of Macbeth......

....I want to love Samurai Jack so much, but it's just not happening. PLEASE let this season prove me wrong.

[All-Star 1.5]

I missed this episode can someone tell me what exactly I missed???

[Killtacular]

It will air again, later tonight. Check the Anything Else thread.

[Jyose]

This episode was very good outside of the ending, which was kinda lame... It was cool to see the Gaurdian be a bouncer type guy instead of an Old Mystic. and how he had all those weapons :). The ending kinda tells us he achieves his goal I guess, I sure hope that Samurai Jack doesn't fall into a gilligan's island trap and never achieves anything...

the Eye candy was brilliant

[DianaGohan]

Jack and The Creatures, or is It Jack and the Portal, or is it Jack gets his ass kicked by A Time Passage Guardian-Bouncer? Anyway, this is the Samurai Jack Episode Review for "XXXII"

A lot of nice visuals to complement here, and the beginning had the most intresting display of creatures seen on the show for a while (Espically that Giant Legged Water Beast who is the only one who can cross that river that pulls everyone else down). The fighting with the shadow figures as a test was a nice warmup for the main fight at the end, which was probably one of the most memorial SJ fights. Jack getting his ass kicked by the Time Passage Bouncer showed that there are levels of strength that he hasn't even mastered yet, and that there is still much for him to learn. The ending gives you a feeling of "Is this really how the series will end?" but I'm not sure that even Gendy has the ending planned out. While the end didn't bug me, the beginning did (They never explained about how he met those creatures who gave him directions to the lake or what he did to earn their gratitude. Otherwise, a great episode. A

[All-Star 1.5]

This episode owned. I mean the eye candy the fight scenes and of course Samuel.L.Jackson all make this episode one of the best out of the entire series. I think that it is pretty obvisous that he reaches at least one of his goals in defeating Aku, but we really have no idea if he go home or stays in the past. I guess we will just have to wait and see.

BTW is it true that SJ gets another 52 episode season because that's what I have been hearing?????

[Mackenzie Rainelle]

While the visuals of the end of the episode did kinda suck, I LOVED the Bouncer's last line: "You can't use it yet, Samurai Jack....Not yet....Not yet...."

[PeppeRaskell1]

Jack getting his ass kicked by the Time Passage Bouncer showed that there are levels of strength that he hasn't even mastered yet, and that there is still much for him to learn. The ending gives you a feeling of "Is this really how the series will end?" but I'm not sure that even Gendy has the ending planned out.

I hope that's not how the series is going to end, with Jack looking like that! When I saw him fight the Time Passage Guardian and get his butt whipped, I (and maybe a few others of us) looked at him and said, "Nope. He's definitely not ready yet." He'll be seeing this fight every night in his dreams from now on, and his thoughts will be ranging from "What did I do wrong? Why did I let him beat me?" to a depressed-sounding, "Maybe I'm not the one," or "I was so close..." before breaking down in tears or screaming out in anger. (Does anyone else besides me smell a "Jack vs. the Guardian, Round 2?")

While the end didn't bug me, the beginning did (They never explained about how he met those creatures who gave him directions to the lake or what he did to earn their gratitude. Otherwise, a great episode.

Yeah. When I first watched it, I said mentally, "Hello? Did the opening battle end up on the Cutting Room floor? Was it a "Deleted Scene" that we'll probably see when and if they release the episodes on DVD?

PeppeRaskell 1
"It's Jack and the Guardian, Part 2, on the next Samurai Jack...Maybe this time, he'll get it right..."

[Cyber E.]

BTW is it true that SJ gets another 52 episode season because that's what I have been hearing?????

I vaguely remember Matt Wilson mentioning that Samurai Jack's Second Season will have another 52 episodes.

-aJb

[Sharklady]

> While the end didn't bug me, the beginning did (They never explained about how he met those creatures who gave him directions to the lake or what he did to earn their gratitude.) <

The writers probably figured, the viewers have seen Jack fight for the oppressed so often before, they could fill in that gap for themselves.

[LightAngel]

This series is back in all its Samurai glory!! I love how they made this whole show into a prophecy. When I saw the ending, well, words just can't describe how cool that was!! It was definently worth the wait!!

[ClockStomper]

I'd like to see Jack find another time portal that's a one time only deal. Then he'd be faced with a decision whether to go back to his own time and possibly kill Aku (he could fail) or go back into the more recent past and save a village from a monster he knows he can defeat.

One problem I find with the show is that aside from a few episodes, Aku is not shown to be that cruel of a dictator. In fact, he's very "hands off". Most of the places where Jack visits, people seem to have a good standard of living. Most of the oppression comes from robots or other creatures opressing each other, independent from Aku. If Jack goes back in time and kills Aku, the future may be worse off, since various societies will work to opress and dominate each other. At least in Aku's future, the fear of Aku must keep such chaos at a minimum.

Then again, with this episode, whatever powers that are controling the blue gardian (and part time gangsta rapper) guy might be part of a movement to bring down Aku. They want to make sure he won't fail so they have to make sure he's strong enough to get the job done and become the one prophesized to time travel. But then, why not just send the blue guy to go kill Aku? He's plenty strong.

[Numbuh 4]

But then, why not just send the blue guy to go kill Aku? He's plenty strong.
because he may be strong but, only jack's sword can hurt aku, he is immortal to everyone and everything else.... at least that's the impression i've had

i forgot to mention earlier that i luved when the blue guy ate the shield :D
i also forgot to mention... jack left without his sword....
and i don't think jack will ever get as old as the ending showed, he'll probably just defy his destiny and beat the blue dude without getting really... old and... bearded or find a different way into the past
so the last episode or movie, he probably look normal
at least that's what i'm hoping

~:knd4:

[Spike Mcdougal]

....Jack really oughta just work on killing Aku in the future and learning to live in this new world. What's more, I think one or two more characaters would be a nice touch. A best friend for Jack, and a romantic interest would at least give Jack people to confide in when the going gets rough.

Well Jack was rumored last year to get a female partner which I was looking forward to but I guess that was dropped

[Sketch]

Yes that would be nice, but then it would be like every other action/adventure series. Jack being alone is a key point in the series. He's not tied down to any specific person or job. So he can help everyone. Just a thought...

[samurai_miaka]

I loved this episode! The scenery was beautiful, the plot was excellent, and we got to see some new perspectives of Jack! Though the end was slightly disappointing, I'm very pleased I recorded it.

And the hair! Wow, it has certaintly grown, now, hasn't it? I can't believe he can still keep it up in a topknot. :P But, frankly, I'd rather see it down to his butt than a fully-fledged beard. Yick.

The only thing I didn't really understand was about recognition with the sword. For the creatures that brought Jack to the time portal, this was partial proof that Jack was "The One." So, did Jack's father have to go back in time to defeat Aku? This is the only reason I can think of that satisfies this question, for the sword was forged by the monks for Aku's destruction. Or did a samurai with an identical sword pass the test, and was a previous "One" that was granted permission to use the time portal?

Also, Jack was knocked out when the Guardian made the statement about him not being The One yet. How will Jack know that he is to go back to the time portal when he is ready?

Other than that, a well-deserved 10/10 :)

[RedBoot]

Yes that would be nice, but then it would be like every other action/adventure series. Jack being alone is a key point in the series. He's not tied down to any specific person or job. So he can help everyone. Just a thought...

I definetly agree that 70% or so of the time, he should be alone. However, I do think that two or three supporting characters should pop up once in a while. The Scotsman would definetly be one, and a female character would also be a good addition.

At any rate...I want a Jack and the Scotsman Part 3...

[Dr Kain]

I'm not sure what I totally think about this episode, but the only way it would turn out to really be an excellent episode is if they go back to that time portal sometime later on in the series and have a proper ending for the series when they are near done with it. I don't want it to just be a series that goes on and on and just gets cancelled with no finale. I do wish they would release the episodes that have already aired on tv on dvd since I need more than the premier movie and ep 11.

[Theking]

Well I loved the ep all around. I even loved the ending untill I had to read some of these posts.

Man I hate it when you guys make me read into things. :p

thumbs up from me

TheKing

[Donna lady]

Well I loved the ep all around. I even loved the ending untill I had to read some of these posts.

Man I hate it when you guys make me read into things. :p

thumbs up from me

TheKing
That's okay, King, you stick to your principles. *sticks out tongue (in humorous, friendly way) at people who criticized ending*
As my 10-year-old said to my 5-year-old, "No, of course Jack won't win. If he went back to the past, that would be the end of the series." LOL!

Woo Hoo, say hi to me, my wife just had a baby boy. So I am getting no sleep.

Congratulations! Man, I remember those days with a newborn. Tough, but wonderful. Hang in there, you will someday sleep at night again. :D

[David Lucas]

I definetly agree that 70% or so of the time, he should be alone. However, I do think that two or three supporting characters should pop up once in a while. The Scotsman would definetly be one, and a female character would also be a good addition.

At any rate...I want a Jack and the Scotsman Part 3...

Exactly! Imagine the Scottsman not only being a recurring character, but one that becomes involved in the overall plot. He doesn't have to be in every episode, he can be kinda like Wolfwood in Trigun. (Maybe not THAT many appearances) All I'm saying is Wolverine and Ryu are the biggest loners of all time, but even THEY make friends that they go around with at some point in their lives.

To have Jack just walk around by himself 24/7, I dunno, it just makes him seem inhuman. Especially since he's all alone in a world where his entire family and friends are now dead.

[The Detective]

I Missed it! I forgot it was on and I missed it!

[Theking]

Congratulations! Man, I remember those days with a newborn. Tough, but wonderful. Hang in there, you will someday sleep at night again. :D

Yea, it is our second, First a girl now a boy. Prob. a good time to stop then.

TheKing

[Beat]

You have Jack start making friends, you have a bland Kenshin. Jack's isolation of sorts is part of his character.

[samurai_miaka]

You have Jack start making friends, you have a bland Kenshin. Jack's isolation of sorts is part of his character.
Exactly! Jack's shy and quiet, and a chatty, annoying companion would completely contrast his character. And it'd take away Jack's being a ronin, "lone warrior." Emphasis on "lone." :P

[Anarky]

just back from vacation and finally got around to viewing the stuff i recorded on leave

loved this ep.

"That was my favorite suit you just ruined!!!"
as tight as this episode was, i hated the follow-up