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Ktkb3
04-12-2003, 09:58 AM
My dad says "Spongebob" and "Powerpuff Girls" are too juvenile for me and just because im 17 that doesn't make a diference everyone on this forum are 17 year old's who go here. Everytime they watch them They don't Feel different. What can i do to change his mind. I'm trying to prove to him that 17 year old boys watch those shows and they wear there merchindise in school and watch Powerpuff Girls if they were superheor geeks and the show was created by a guy and that it won't change you into a sissy for something What can i do to Change his mind? "Spongebob" and Powerpuff Girls are not juvenile to me. They Make you laugh now matter silly they and i want to stick to it.

I need advice :(

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The Jinjo
04-12-2003, 10:49 AM
Spogebob is just like the Simpsons. Go ahead, wear your shirts! Explain to your dad that it's the top rated cartoon for kids right now, and in the top ten for adult cartoon viewing. As for PPG, it's fine to watch them at home and stuff, its a good show, but a boy wearing a Bubbles shirt would be kind of strange.

Obi
04-12-2003, 10:50 AM
everyone on this forum are 17 year old's who go here.

*cough*

Anyway, just don't listen to him. You don't HAVE to prove anything to him.

Anarky
04-12-2003, 11:43 AM
you'll never convince your father so let it be

it's a generational thing
Our generation is different from his.
My father grew up in 60's-70s NYC.
I grew up in the 80's-90's NYC

entertainment was different then
we grew up watching cartoons and playing vid games
my father grew up on the streets, playing all those cruel street games
by the time i was his age, the streets were far too dangerous (gangs, crack, killers) for kids to run around unchecked so we were raised indoors mostly

I grew up w/ action cartoons and comic books, hence my passion for the genre. Today I'm 25 and still enjoy programs like TMNT, BTAS, STAS, BB, JL, X-Men, Spider-Man, Spawn, Futurama, Invader ZIM, Cowboy Bebop, etc... I'd rather watch animation over any live-action sitcom/drama anyday.

Though I don't like Spongebob, if you like it, sobeit.

I've found PPG to be quite entertaining at times. It's a celebration of old-school and new school. Plus the villains are interesting and that's what matters: the villains. Lame villains= lame series. PPG has a cool cast of villainy: Mojo, HIM, the Gang Green Gang, Femme Fatale, Sedusa, Princess, the Rowdy Ruff Boys...

Matt Hazuda
04-12-2003, 02:12 PM
You don't have to do anything to change his mind. You just like them and that's you. If he doesn't say you can't watch them there is no problem. Parents just want to have something wrong that they can complain about. If it wasn't cartoons, it'd be something else.

EscaflownePilot
04-12-2003, 02:14 PM
I can't help you with Spongebob Squarepants, since, to be frank, I hate the show with every fiber of my being, and I think it's the dumbest, most evil Nicktoon to date -- which says a lot, because I already have a passionate hate for Nickelodian.

That being said, tell your Dad to flip through just about any given K-Mart sales ad - there are always full grown adults wearing Spongebob merchandise. The show has a tremendous following by adults. In fact, nearly every adult I know watches the show quite often, and they often even quote from it. I'll never know why - again, I think this show is incredibly unintelligent material with unoriginal writing and poor direction, but then I'm clearly in the minority on this...

As for Powerpuff Girls: It's easily one of my favorite comedy series of all time! The perfect blend of action combined with the often self-parodying jokes create a very entertaining world and characters. I know many adults who like this as well. Although it's primary focus is girls, I do know many boys, myself included, who really like the series. It's not going to be hard to convince your Dad that PPG are widely enjoyed by adults of all kinds... it might be difficult to convince him that boys like it, though. Like I said, many boys do like it... just not that many of them..

As for wearing PPG merchandise... egh... I wouldn't find anything wrong with it... in fact, it'd be comforting to know another boy so openly a PPG fan as to wear a PPG shirt... but I wouldn't be comfortable doing that.

Sharklady
04-12-2003, 06:29 PM
In regard to PPG, one thing you could do is have your dad watch the 'Meet the Beat Alls' episode, and ask him how many juveniles he knows who would get even half the references.

Dr. Dave
04-12-2003, 07:17 PM
Just ignore your father. Watch what you enjoy, and don't let anyone put you down for it. Shoot, I occasionally watch both of these toons (although they aren't my favorites), and I'm old enough to be your father!

oranthal
04-12-2003, 09:58 PM
My dad says "Spongebob" and "Powerpuff Girls" are too juvenile for me and just because im 17 that doesn't make a diference everyone on this forum are 17 year old's who go here. Everytime they watch them They don't Feel different. What can i do to change his mind. I'm trying to prove to him that 17 year old boys watch those shows and they wear there merchindise in school and watch Powerpuff Girls if they were superheor geeks and the show was created by a guy and that it won't change you into a sissy for something What can i do to Change his mind? "Spongebob" and Powerpuff Girls are not juvenile to me. They Make you laugh now matter silly they and i want to stick to it.

I need advice :(

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You can tell your father that watching cartoons is a better hobby than doing drugs, binge drink, or god knows what teenagers do these days.

Drake Aldan
04-13-2003, 03:56 AM
Ignore him, and go watch it in your room. Lock the door.

You do have your own TV, right?

May all your days be blessed,
Drake Aldan

Hades
04-13-2003, 06:03 PM
kick your dad in the knee and call him a doofus. or, like i do with my dad, just ignore him. and then tape over all his westerns with anime. :cool:

Pilmedium
04-13-2003, 08:28 PM
If you like those cartoons, then continue watching them, but you will probably not be able to change his opinion. As a matter of fact, people of any age can like any show.

ToonamiFanatic
04-13-2003, 09:26 PM
I would just ignore him. Recently I got laughed at from my little 12 year old brother was watching a Tape of Gi joe recorded from last summer
and he walked in and said arent you a little too old to be watching Gi Joe.I just ignored him besides he hasnt even watched 5 minutes of Gi joe well once that was the movie and that was it I think. and also he does the same thing when I buy the new He-man figures and re issued Gi joes.
even my dad accused me of buying dolls when I got one of those 12 inch joes recently of course I just display them. so I just say ignore them. my brother goes with the current fads pokemon harry potter yugi oh cards. what does he know?

Zechs
04-13-2003, 11:33 PM
Just ignore him. If you like it that's all that matters. As long as your're not hurting anyone I don't see the problem.

Plasma_Ghost
04-14-2003, 03:36 PM
Tell him you want to hold on to your youth for as long as possible before you become old and cranky like him :p

Jade_GL
04-14-2003, 03:42 PM
Just tell him that cartoons can have adult jokes in them. In fact, that makes it fun for parents to watch with their kids.

Namely, half of the jokes in any Spongebob episode would glide right over a four year old's head. How many kids know about working hte late shift, having a boss and a job, proms, driving, the list goes on and on. I think that a lot of the themes in Spongebob also play off of adult or older youth ideas, such as learning to drive, having to work a 9-5, and other ideas.

Frankly, anyone who thinks Spongebob is just for kids, or PPG for that matter, hasn't seen enough to know much about them. Or chooses to over look the more adult oriented jokes to just focus on the more child oriented humor.

Oh well. I love my Spongebob DVDs. I have fun watching it with my niece, and even my parents and my brother loe the show and talk about the more interesting jokes geared towards an older audience. It's like Rocko's Modern Life or Ren and Stimpy. Not all for adults, not all for kids either. That makes it fun for both. :D

So I say just continue to enjoy what you enjoy. What's the point of living life if you can't have a hobby that you get fun from. And like another poster said, it's better than doing drugs, drinking, or other harmful activities.

John Miles
04-14-2003, 05:37 PM
My dad says "Spongebob" and "Powerpuff Girls" are too juvenile for me and just because im 17 that doesn't make a diference everyone on this forum are 17 year old's who go here. Everytime they watch them They don't Feel different. What can i do to change his mind. I'm trying to prove to him that 17 year old boys watch those shows and they wear there merchindise in school and watch Powerpuff Girls if they were superheor geeks and the show was created by a guy and that it won't change you into a sissy for something What can i do to Change his mind? "Spongebob" and Powerpuff Girls are not juvenile to me. They Make you laugh now matter silly they and i want to stick to it.

I need advice :(

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You should give him the finger. Smoke while you are doing so :moon: :moon2:

Ajax
04-14-2003, 05:42 PM
My dad says "Spongebob" and "Powerpuff Girls" are too juvenile for me and just because im 17 that doesn't make a diference everyone on this forum are 17 year old's who go here. Everytime they watch them They don't Feel different. What can i do to change his mind. I'm trying to prove to him that 17 year old boys watch those shows and they wear there merchindise in school and watch Powerpuff Girls if they were superheor geeks and the show was created by a guy and that it won't change you into a sissy for something What can i do to Change his mind? "Spongebob" and Powerpuff Girls are not juvenile to me. They Make you laugh now matter silly they and i want to stick to it.

I need advice :(

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You know I may be alone on this one but I'd listen to your father. ( and learn to write for chirstsake)

EscaflownePilot
04-14-2003, 09:32 PM
You know I may be alone on this one but I'd listen to your father. ( and learn to write for chirstsake)Why? Seriously, I'm curious why you'd suggest he should forsake his hobby... especially when you yourself must be into animation, as well (or you wouldn't be on this board).

To be blunt, who the hell cares what his father thinks?!
Why should he quit?
A ton of adults watch these series regularly. 1/3 of Cartoon Network's audience is adults. The adult demographic is the ONLY demographic on CN that has been consistently growing, even during the non-Adult Swim time periods.

There are so many worse things he could be doing. Yet because his father has some stupid misconception, and hopes to mold a perfect son, hoping to eliminate what he deems a childish pastime. It sounds as though his father has this whole "my son can't be a sissy" thing going on, and he deserves to be put down!! His father is dead wrong with his mis-conceptions of animation, and he sounds like a stubborn ass too stupid to ever be convinced otherwise. That's why I say he shouldn't care what his father says.

The guy is 17 years old. He could be doing so much worse.
And it's not at all abnormal for adults to watch cartoons.

I just fail to see how anyone, especially on this board can be in opposition!

Sorry to be blunt - if you have any actual reasoning behind this response, please, voice them... otherwise, I'm just going to continue to think you're dead wrong...

Ajax
04-15-2003, 09:28 AM
The guy is 17 years old. He could be doing so much worse.
And it's not at all abnormal for adults to watch cartoons.



He watches PPG and SpongeBob, I doubt he could do much worse then that. :p

I'm just saying he should listen to his father. Not literally but in a parent sense.

Killtacular
04-15-2003, 09:39 AM
And you watch the Simpsons. ROFLROFLLOLOLOLWROMFORMOFRFRFFISN'T IT SO FUNNY TO PUT OTHER PEOPLE DOWN AND INSULT THEIR TASTES!!111*















*Not that I have a problem with that, mind you. But negative opinions should be reserved for a different thread... this is exactly what the kid DOESN'T need to hear.

wonderfly
04-15-2003, 09:51 AM
In regard to PPG, one thing you could do is have your dad watch the 'Meet the Beat Alls' episode, and ask him how many juveniles he knows who would get even half the references.

I really like this suggestion. Seriously, just ask him to watch an episode or two with you, and then ask whether he still thinks it's for kids. Of course, with parents like that, the obvious answer will probably be yes, it is for kids, (anything animated just has to be for kids in the eyes of some adults. :rolleyes: makes you wanna strap them into a chair and make them watch 24 hours of nonstop Adult Swim).

Me, I'm 10 years older than you, and in my cartoon heyday, I had to put up with my dad. He did stop in the room and watch cartoons with us from time to time, put usually no more than 5 minutes, before saying "sheesh" and rolling his eyes, and leaving the room.

It was that way for Transformers, it was that way for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and it was that way for Batman: The Animated Series. I'm guessing in those few instances where he stopped and watched, the shows did intrigue him, but he just couldn't admit to himself that cartoons are anything more than kids play, so he left the room. Always had something better to do. Still, now that I'm 'all grown up' :p he's very supportive of my collecting comics and cartoons.



Still, as someone else mentioned, if it's a Bubbles shirt: Please don't wear it unless your a girl. You will be LAUGHED AT. :p

Novdeloth
04-15-2003, 11:39 AM
Still, as someone else mentioned, if it's a Bubbles shirt: Please don't wear it unless your a girl. You will be LAUGHED AT. :p

That's funny. How come guys who wear Sailor Moon shirts don't get laughed at? :p People just stare at them and go, "Oh, kewl, he's into Sailor Moon! Annie-may rules!"

Mrph.

Anyway, don't listen to your dad. You got your tastes, he's got his. Besides, like everyone else has said, there are jokes in just about every cartoon nowadays that only the older audience would get. Sure, there are some geared towards adults and others are strictly for kids, but generally speaking, cartoons are for everyone.

The Detective
04-15-2003, 10:23 PM
Tell him that I saw a really old looking guy in Wal*Mart once wearing a SB T-Shirt.

Zechs
04-15-2003, 10:49 PM
I'm 21 my mother's 48 and my aunt is 50. We all like spongebob they don't watch it as much I do but they still like the show. So don't let it bother you.

PeppeRaskell1
04-15-2003, 11:39 PM
My dad, who grew up in the 30's and 40's, when animation was in its infancy, was always ragging me whenever I watched cartoons, even in my 20's. In fact, anything I watched was quickly dismissed as a "Baby Dumpling show." (And I didn't even know who "Baby Dumpling" was!) And he'd always get one or both of my older brothers to join in the ragging.

I'm still watching cartoons, and I'll probably still be watching cartoons when I'm at the old folks' home. I may not like some of the 'toons I see nowadays, but when my nieces become teenagers (one already has), I will never put them down about whether or not they want to watch cartoons, or call them "Baby Dumpling shows," like my Dad did.

PeppeRaskell 1
"If watching cartoons is unhealthy...I'd rather be sick!" (So there, Dad!):deedee:

wonderfly
04-16-2003, 01:55 PM
That's funny. How come guys who wear Sailor Moon shirts don't get laughed at? :p People just stare at them and go, "Oh, kewl, he's into Sailor Moon! Annie-may rules!"

Mrph.

Anyway, don't listen to your dad. You got your tastes, he's got his. Besides, like everyone else has said, there are jokes in just about every cartoon nowadays that only the older audience would get. Sure, there are some geared towards adults and others are strictly for kids, but generally speaking, cartoons are for everyone.


Though I've never seen a guy wear a Sailor Moon shirt, the reaction will be different because Sailor Moon is anime. There are two different reactions you can get from your fellow highschoolers about anime, (from non anime otaku's) : Some will say, "Oh, that's Sailor Moon! It's annie-may! That stuff's cool! I watch DBZ all the time!" or "What a Dork! He's into that Japanese crap cartoons! I'm gonna go play some Football and make out with the cheerleaders, and after school's out, I'm gonna beat you up!"

Ah, the memories just keep coming back... :p

Meanwhile, if you wear a Bubbles shirt, (especially if it's pink, and all cutesy) you will be laughed at, and beaten up on the spot. :cool:

The Jinjo
04-17-2003, 04:20 PM
"That's funny. How come guys who wear Sailor Moon shirts don't get laughed at? :p People just stare at them and go, "Oh, kewl, he's into Sailor Moon! Annie-may rules!"



Where I live, the only people who wear Anime shirts are the "geeks". So in my case, people who wore a Sailor Moon Shirt would be made fun of. But maybe I live in an evil little town. :cool:

Conekiller
04-17-2003, 05:59 PM
I'd laugh at a guy wearing a sailor moon t-shirt

but then again I laugh at alot of things

Zechs
04-17-2003, 08:16 PM
I had a friend who used to wear a sailor moon tee but he got teased so he stopped wearing it.

Samurai Kat
04-17-2003, 08:59 PM
Well I'm not a huge fan of SpongeBob and PPG, but I was in the same boat as you were, but it was another show. I was watching Samurai Jack and my dad came by and see's it. He asked me what the show was I told him and he said: I SAY IT JAPANESE AND I DON'T LIKE IT ONE BIT.
I told him it wasn't and we got into a fight, anyway I told him I like watching my shows and he doesn't like it then leave.

Numbuh 4
04-17-2003, 09:12 PM
tell him everyone watches spongebob
and a lot watch ppg
including me (but that's besides the point, i'm 15)
as long as he doesn't do something stupid like my friend's dad who doesn't let him watch dbz because he doesn't like it

and being off-topic:
a guy in a sailor moon shirt is a little... ew... but nothing wrong with it, just a little weird
of course even if you wore like... a dbz shirt you would still be laughed at, by some people
happened to me

i'd just wish people would laugh at the girl who wears a count cocoa shirt and the guy who wears make-up at my school
.........losers

Where I live, the only people who wear Anime shirts are the "geeks"
beware of the geeks, they're planning world domination... i should know... being one of them...

Sharklady
04-17-2003, 10:45 PM
> He asked me what the show was I told him and he said: I SAY IT JAPANESE AND I DON'T LIKE IT ONE BIT. <

That's bigotry, and it's a far more disturbing attitude. Parents who believe cartoons should be outgrown may deprive their kids of enjoynent, but bigotry has been known to kill.

Samurai Kat
04-18-2003, 12:47 PM
> He asked me what the show was I told him and he said: I SAY IT JAPANESE AND I DON'T LIKE IT ONE BIT. <

That's bigotry, and it's a far more disturbing attitude. Parents who believe cartoons should be outgrown may deprive their kids of enjoynent, but bigotry has been known to kill.

Well the problem was my dad was raise during the time of WW II and he was taught that all Japanese people are evil and so was the stuff they made, includeing Anime. That right Anime, he doesn't like it one bit. And he thought Samurai Jack was a Anime show and was made in Japan.

Botman
04-18-2003, 04:13 PM
Well the problem was my dad was raise during the time of WW II and he was taught that all Japanese people are evil and so was the stuff they made, includeing Anime. That right Anime, he doesn't like it one bit. And he thought Samurai Jack was a Anime show and was made in Japan.


:eek:.....wow.....:eek:

I feel sorry for him...

Sharklady
04-18-2003, 10:18 PM
> Well the problem was my dad was raise during the time of WW II and he was taught that all Japanese people are evil... <

I do understand what effect all that wartime propaganda must have had on a lot of people. But any mature individual ought to recognize this effect for what it is, and try to outgrow it.

The simple fact is, there is no ethnic group on earth where all the people are evil.
There is also no ethnic group on earth which is completely devoid of evil.

The human condition has always been this way, and probably always will be.

RockItShipper
04-19-2003, 06:27 PM
What I heard from other kids in 4th grade and up is pretty much the same bs I get from my mom and sister now. They just want to get me hung up on appearances like they are. Hell no!

purplehairedwonder
04-20-2003, 01:22 AM
I know how that goes. Whenever any other member of my family finds me watching cartoons I get a disgusted look and "I can't believe your watching this crap." And I'm known as the anime freak in my circle of friends, on and offline. But then again, I live in Smalltown, USA so most people here haven't heard of DBZ or Sailor Moon, so there ya go. I say it's what I like and if you can't accept that, well, screw you:p But the point is, just ignore your dad or tell him that it's what you like and you have every right to be interested in toons. It's a free country.

Novdeloth
04-21-2003, 12:24 PM
> Well the problem was my dad was raise during the time of WW II and he was taught that all Japanese people are evil... <

I do understand what effect all that wartime propaganda must have had on a lot of people. But any mature individual ought to recognize this effect for what it is, and try to outgrow it.

The simple fact is, there is no ethnic group on earth where all the people are evil.
There is also no ethnic group on earth which is completely devoid of evil.

The human condition has always been this way, and probably always will be.

Sadly, it will always be that way.

Some people believe that if you pass the hate down to another generation, you're doing a good job. Of what, I have no idea. They just seem to think that they're accomplishing something.

But hating and holding a grudge takes up a lot of energy. And teaching your children to hate the people you hate--forcing them to carry your burdens--isn't real love, in my opinion.

"Son, I hate these people, so I want you to hate them."
"What'd they ever do to me?"
"Nothing. But I hate them, so you should, too."
"What clear logic! Thanks, Dad!"

World peace is only a dream, but inner peace can become a reality.