If ADV added programing to AS what would you like to see?

[Sketch]

My picks are Wild Arms (because some situations would have to be cut and would make it loose some great stuff), Bubble Gum Crisis 2040 (I've always wanted to see this), and of course Evangelion (for obvious reasons).

The schedule would be as follows:

12.0 - Wild Arms
12.5 - Inu Yasha
01.0 - Trigun
01.5 - Bubble Gum Crisis 2040
02.0 - Cowboy Bebop (The DBZ of Adult Swim)
02.5 - Evangelion

An extra hour is a must to add in more shows and still keep in some others. 11-12pm would be funny stuff. Futurmama and Family Guy for instance.

[RedBoot]

I think Wild Arms could make it on Toonami. I've only seen 4 episodes so far, but there hasn't been anything really bad, other than a little alcohol.

BGC Tokyo 2040 would be a great fit for AS, though. I think RahXephon would be good as well. And of course, Noir.

[Killtacular]

Noir and Excel Saga. Evangelion isn't for adults. Excel Saga is supposedly only funny if you're deep into Japanese culture, but I definitely am not and I still find it very funny, because some of the things they parody are on a very general level to begin with and would still be familiar to any cartoon lover. (Good angel, bad angel, for example).

I don't prefer any of ADV's robot shows, mostly because they all star Spike Spencer, the world's worst male voice actor in the history of Sabat.

[Sketch]

Wild Arms has the situation that the protagonist is a re-incarnation and he's stuck in a kids body for the time being.

In the first episode he's naked most of the time, and he well... he looks down at himself and notices not all is as large as it use to be.

It's not very important, but I think it's better AS fare or late night SVES.

[Sketch]

Noir and Excel Saga. Evangelion isn't for adults. Excel Saga is supposedly only funny if you're deep into Japanese culture, but I definitely am not and I still find it very funny, because some of the things they parody are on a very general level to begin with and would still be familiar to any cartoon lover. (Good angel, bad angel, for example).

I don't prefer any of ADV's robot shows, mostly because they all star Spike Spencer, the world's worst male voice actor in the history of Sabat.

Spike Spencer is the FREAK'N MAN!!! No one can scream like Spike Spencer...

I've never seen either Noir or Excel Saga, but I hear they are quite good.

True Eva isn't for adults... it's pretty much for Psychos and anyone else who can stand the tension of watching it... but as we've seen on Toonami... It could air anywhere else.

[RedBoot]

Wild Arms has the situation that the protagonist is a re-incarnation and he's stuck in a kids body for the time being.

In the first episode he's naked most of the time, and he well... he looks down at himself and notices not all is as large as it use to be.

Well, Kid Goku was naked in Dragonball. I've seen that ep of Wild Arms, and it could probably get by. They might have to toss in a digital something or other here and there, but they could do it. ADV themselves give it a 12+ rating.

As for Eva, well, it isn't for adults, sure. But the full series definetly couldn't go on Toonami. Heck, I say leave Eva to the Anime Channel. ADV has plenty of other properties that are just as good and better than Eva.

[Cyporiean]

the final episode of Excel Saga could never air on Cartoon Network (It couldn't air in Japan)

plus Excel's American actresses are forms of Torture...

[Sketch]

Yeah I suppose it could get by, but it's a little wierd for Toonami so late night SVES would be a better choice... yet another show featuring the VA of Jim and Tsukasa... Ian something...

True Eva doesn't need to be on AS because the anime channel and the DVD's are plenty of coverage.

[Killtacular]

Torture? The dub and sub are of equal quality, if you ask me. Either way, the shouting gets to be too much for your ears to handle, but it's not like either voice actress of Excel is MORE grating.

[Cyporiean]

Torture? The dub and sub are of equal quality, if you ask me. Either way, the shouting gets to be too much for your ears to handle, but it's not like either voice actress of Excel is MORE grating.


I haven't had any problems with Mitsuishi Kotono, but the dub actresses make me want to stab a fork into my ear

[Zechs]

I like to see noir, and Bubble Gum Crisis 2040 air.

[Catlover]

Noir, Excel saga, Gunsmith cats, orphan, and City Hunter. I think those are all Adult enough. (I'm not sure about Orphan, I've never seen it)

[Zach Logan]

Noir and Excel Saga. Evangelion isn't for adults. Excel Saga is supposedly only funny if you're deep into Japanese culture, but I definitely am not and I still find it very funny, because some of the things they parody are on a very general level to begin with and would still be familiar to any cartoon lover. (Good angel, bad angel, for example).

I don't prefer any of ADV's robot shows, mostly because they all star Spike Spencer, the world's worst male voice actor in the history of Sabat.

Gotta agree with you there completly. Excel Saga would be PERFECT for AS, ive seen the whole series and it would be a perfect show. Noir would be okay, but RahXephon may also be good.

[Jude Santos]

Noir. I hate the show to death, but its probably the only show to go on without anyhting being cut, that is assuming that Matt Greenfield (the dub director*) doesnt put in any swear words in the dub script.

Blue Seed, Orphen, Wild Arms, Saiyuki, and Bandit King Jing would all be good titles.

*while im talking about Greenfield, let me say that he's an awful director/writer. he seriously needs to look at the dictionary to find synonyms of words instead of using the same word over and over and over again.

[Mugen]

*while im talking about Greenfield, let me say that he's an awful director/writer. he seriously needs to look at the dictionary to find synonyms of words instead of using the same word over and over and over again.

Yet, he's one of the few who makes accurate scripts and not add in curse words at ADV.

[Misato Tanaka]

[QUOTE='Matt Wilson']Noir and Excel Saga. Evangelion isn't for adults. Excel Saga is supposedly only funny if you're deep into Japanese culture, but I definitely am not and I still find it very funny, because some of the things they parody are on a very general level to begin with and would still be familiar to any cartoon lover. (Good angel, bad angel, for example).QUOTE]

thank you, for finally being another person other than myself that realizes evangelion isnt for adults.To all the people who say it belongs on AS, have you seen it?? It is not the greatest thing in the world, folks.

Anywho.....Noir would make a nice addition to AS, maybe at the 12oclock slot. I also think Gunsmith would be really cool as a special one time friday night showing.

Wild Arms could very well be on the saturday night action block...nothing *too* objectional from what i remember.

Excel Saga??...I have seen a few ep.s of this and...I just dont know if it would go well with the current anime programing on the block...maybe as a transition from comedy to "action" at the 12 time slot..

:) thats my 2 cents, anyways..

[Nabuca]

Evangelion isn't for adults.
Give me a break. If Evangelion isnt for adults than neither is Lupin, Trigun, Reign or basically any other anime on Adult Swim. Shows like Trigun, Evangelion, Lupin can be enjoyed by teenagers and adults. The line is blurred when it comes to anime, I enjoyed Evangelion when I first saw it at age 16 and I still enjoy it at age 20. Have we had this arguement before? Heh

[Misato Tanaka]

Give me a break. If Evangelion isnt for adults than neither is Lupin, Trigun, Reign or basically any other anime on Adult Swim. Shows like Trigun, Evangelion, Lupin can be enjoyed by teenagers and adults. The line is blurred when it comes to anime, I enjoyed Evangelion when I first saw it at age 16 and I still enjoy it at age 20. Have we had this arguement before? Heh

ok,dont get me wrong, I like trigun...but you really think it is "for adults"?
not to say it is "for children", its just not that mature compared to alot of other anime..say Reign for instance.
my dad likes Reign, he likes Bebop...He watched a few episodes of trigun and asked me why its on adult swim...

[Sheamon]

Give me a break. If Evangelion isnt for adults than neither is Lupin, Trigun, Reign or basically any other anime on Adult Swim.

No, because shows like Reign and Lupin don't feature immature teenage main characters. You mean to tell me Eva's on the maturity level that Reign is? You're joking, right? Why do you think the response of the average teenager to Eva is 'wow, Asuka's HOT!!!!' or 'Eva Unit 01 is da bomb! I'm gonna make a million vs. topics!" while the response to Reign is "this show sucks.". It speaks volumes for who these shows are really for. I'm not saying Eva's not a show that can't be enjoyed by adults, heck I was 18/19 when I watched it. But its a show aimed towards teenagers, not adults.

[Nabuca]

ok,dont get me wrong, I like trigun...nut you really think it is "for adults"?
not to say it is "for children", its just not that mature compared to alot of other anime..say Reign for instance.
my dad likes Reign, he likes Bebop...He watched a few episodes of trigun and asked me why its on adult swim...
Like I said, it can be enjoyed by Teenagers AND Adults, If I saw Trigun 10 years from now I would still love it as much as I did when I saw it two years ago. And there is plenty of adult stuff later in the series. This is really a stupid arguement, Futurama is on Adult Swim, so does that mean Teenagers wouldnt get it? It is a blurred line, the jump from kids programming to teen/adult programming is alot more bold.

[Misato Tanaka]

No, because shows like Reign and Lupin don't feature immature teenage main characters. You mean to tell me Eva's on the maturity level that Reign is? You're joking, right? Why do you think the response of the average teenager to Eva is 'wow, Asuka's HOT!!!!' or 'Eva Unit 01 is da bomb! I'm gonna make a million vs. topics!" while the response to Reign is "this show sucks.". It speaks volumes for who these shows are really for. I'm not saying Eva's not a show that can't be enjoyed by adults, heck I was 18/19 when I watched it. But its a show aimed towards teenagers, not adults.

You summed that up wonderifully...alot better than I did, :)

[Nabuca]

No, because shows like Reign and Lupin don't feature immature teenage main characters. You mean to tell me Eva's on the maturity level that Reign is? You're joking, right? Why do you think the response of the average teenager to Eva is 'wow, Asuka's HOT!!!!' or 'Eva Unit 01 is da bomb! I'm gonna make a million vs. topics!" while the response to Reign is "this show sucks.". It speaks volumes for who these shows are really for. I'm not saying Eva's not a show that can't be enjoyed by adults, heck I was 18/19 when I watched it. But its a show aimed towards teenagers, not adults.
Reign is an exception but it is not like it cant be enjoyed by a teen, and are you saying Lupin III is aimed at adults? Its an all-ages show in Japan. (I love Lupin III but I would consider Evangelion to be more mature, especially towards the end of the series.) Do you even remember ANY of Evangelion? There is serious, mature stuff in there but just because the main character is a whiny kid that automatically dubs it as immature? Now And Then, Here and There is one of the most mature anime shows that I have ever seen and 90% of the cast is made up of children. As long as Toonami is meant for 7 year olds, the anime aimed at teenagers should go to the next best block, and that is Adult Swim and sometimes that does not happen. I retire from this arguement, because I dont feel like shoveling **** against the tide.

[Sketch]

If you had ever seen the last episodes of EVA and the two movies (especialy EoE) then you would know why it's "adult" material. Yet it's full of a lot of angst so it really does blur the line. It's like Inu Yasha to the EXTREME. It would fit on SVES if the cut out everything controversial and skipped epsisodes, but not Toonami (as we have all seen). Thus AS would be the best place for it, but it's fine on the anime network so I'm rather sorry I brought it up. We don't need to argue about it anymore.

[Sheamon]

Reign is an exception but it is not like it cant be enjoyed by a teen,

I don't think I've found a single teen off this board actually whose said anything positive about it :P

and are you saying Lupin III is aimed at adults? Its an all-ages show in Japan.

No, not really, but who it was originally aimed for can actually mean quite little now. Lupin in this day in age is a show that simply is not going to attract a younger crowd on American TV due to its age. Hense, it was placed on Adult Swim. Evangelion is a show that was probably aimed towards a similar age group when it came out, but the fact that its much newer and that it is much easier for the average teenager to relate to due to the fact that the main characters are teens makes Lupin the better fit for Adult Swim.


(I love Lupin III but I would consider Evangelion to be more mature, especially towards the end of the series.) Do you even remember ANY of Evangelion? There is some very serious, mature stuff in there but just because the main character is a whiny kid that automatically dubs it as immature?

The show's not immature, but characters like Shinji and Asuka are. And yes, Eva is more mature towards the end, but certainly not enough to reflect on the fanbase, don't you think? For a show thats supposedly so deep and mature, you'd figure that there'd be a little more topics/sites about the philisophical/psychological, etc... aspects of Eva rather than 'This character's hot', 'Who would win in a fight' or my personal favorite 'Even though I have no comprehension of mecha anime before 1995, ____Fill in the Blank_____ is an Eva ripoff!'. Thats clearly not the case.

As long as shows like Inu Yasha are on Adult Swim I certainly can't say Eva shouldn't be on (in a world where Anime Channel doesn't exist of course) for maturity reasons (I don't want it on for totally other reasons :p). But its a teenage show that has appeal for adults, not the other way around.

[Nabuca]

I don't think I've found a single teen off this board actually whose said anything positive about it :P
For a show thats supposedly so deep and mature, you'd figure that there'd be a little more topics/sites about the philisophical/psychological, etc... aspects of Eva rather than 'This character's hot', 'Who would win in a fight' or my personal favorite
:unretires himself: Heh, that is true, alot of shows get a really embarassing fanbase.

[Coollead]

I don't think I've found a single teen off this board actually whose said anything positive about it :P

I liked it. =o

And...yes, CN could show the last episode of Excel Saga. Easily. Just show the Japanese broadcast version, which is basically censor boxes for 24 minutes! Its like Wacky Deli all over again!

I own the entire series legally, woo, and it would be a cool addition to AS...and wouldn't need to be edited, other than a few S and F words.

Noir, on the other hand, could show with nothing more than a TV-Y7, I've never seen so much bloodless killing ever. Not to mention the main characters hardly talk. Good stuff.

[KingKoopa]

I liked it. =o

And...yes, CN could show the last episode of Excel Saga. Easily. Just show the Japanese broadcast version, which is basically censor boxes for 24 minutes! Its like Wacky Deli all over again!

I own the entire series legally, woo, and it would be a cool addition to AS...and wouldn't need to be edited, other than a few S and F words.

Noir, on the other hand, could show with nothing more than a TV-Y7, I've never seen so much bloodless killing ever. Not to mention the main characters hardly talk. Good stuff.
Noir would get TV-PG simply because of the high amount of gun use.

[pabcool]

My point on the EVA subject: Easy. If InuYasha can air on AS, so can EVA. Do you HONESTLY think Inu is aimed at adults? Get real.

[The_Dominion]

I don't think I've found a single teen off this board actually whose said anything positive about it :P

<--17

I enjoyed Reign alot. I enjoyed even how it ended
with the destruction of the world that is pythagorean mathmatics, and birth of Euclidian Geometry.

I also bought Eva and EoE I enjoyed both of the last episodes. The more philospical ending of Eva, and the complete destruction with a little bit of philospical ending.

Of course I still liked all the destruction, and thought Asuka was hot, but I didn't enjoy just that. If any "Adult" doesn't enjoy that, there would be no porn industry of car racing.

[Misato Tanaka]

My point on the EVA subject: Easy. If InuYasha can air on AS, so can EVA. Do you HONESTLY think Inu is aimed at adults? Get real.

I dont think anyone said it was :)

[Sheamon]

I said OFF this board, not at it. I know how much respect the show has gotten here.

[RedTail]

I don't think I've found a single teen off this board actually whose said anything positive about it :P

Yea, Reign didn't seem to get much recognition at my high school beyond numerous complaints that it was just "a lame version of Aeon Flux..." I on the other hand (17), really enjoyed the show. Mostly because I'm in to ancient studies.

- RedTail

[Coollead]

Actually, I know lots of people who liked it at school as well. People also ask for it at work.

[Sketch]

Okay I've seen five episodes of Wild Arms now, but the first episode and the 5th episode are more likey candidates for Adult Swim. Too many taboo subjects. I don't know how they would explain the homosexual relationship told about in the 5th episode (but I learned never to underestimate Toonami's editing ability). The best things in the episodes are appropriate for a Y7-FV show. TVPG at least, but AS is the only place any anime will air that (YYH was a fluke) now.

SVES could pull it off with editing, but it would be a shame to take out the really funny stuff that kids either wouldn't get or shouldn't hear in favor of placing it outside of AS. I guess I sound hippo critical, but Kenshin only cuts out blood and language (for the most part) this would have to take out the humorous content. Blast you CN air TVPG anime more freely! I know it wont happen, but I had to get it off my chest.

[Conekiller]

I liked it. =o

And...yes, CN could show the last episode of Excel Saga. Easily. Just show the Japanese broadcast version, which is basically censor boxes for 24 minutes! Its like Wacky Deli all over again!

I own the entire series legally, woo, and it would be a cool addition to AS...and wouldn't need to be edited, other than a few S and F words.

Wacky Deli? is that the cartoon-in-a-cartoon from Rocko?

You own all of Excel Saga? I thought the last DVD don't come out till next week (this comming from the guy who got RahXephonvol1 2 weeks early) does it have ep 26 on it or do they relegate that to the PuniPuni Poemi DVD?

[Zechs]

It all depends on what you call adult. IMO it the subject matter that counts and makes a show adult. Not just a buncha sex viloence and lewd jokes. NGE from what I rember could be a teen show but it would most likely be for older teens.

[Arxane]

You know what I think? This whole "is this show adult?" debate stems from who perceives it as adult or not. And I'm not talking about individuals; I'm talking about cultures. America and Japan are two different cultures with different standards of what's acceptable. America is a free-speech, Christian-founded country where things like violence, nudity, degrading of religion, gambling, and drinking are either seen as taboos or are risque enough to cause moral outcry from the vocal minority. Japan is...well, not. Sure, the Japanese have their limits just like Americans, but they're far more flexible. We're talking about a country that sells hentai right next to children shows because Japan is a society in which children will not buy hentai because they know they're not supposed to! So of course Americans and Japanese are going to have different perceptions of what's adult or not, because Americans tend to be more "shielded" from stuff that the Japanese are exposed to quite often.

Take, for example, "Detective Conan". This is a wildly popular kids show in Japan that draws in high ratings all the time and has been going strong for quite some time now. You'd think an American distributor would pick this show up by now. But guess what? This show is violent. And I do mean violent. How violent? How about a scene where a kidnapped girl is thrown into a car trunk with a severed head? Or a scene where a person is tortured and bleeds to death by a man that shoots her sadistically in the arms and legs? This is undoubtedly a kids show, and yet these kinds of things won't see the light of day on American kids TV.

The truth is, the perception of what's "adult" depend upon the culture that's watching it. Even shows that are seen as adult in America, such as our beloved "Cowboy Bebop", were mainly marketed to younger age groups in Japan (note: I said "mainly," not "solely"). The Japanese obviously realize that throwing in a couple of violent scenes with some nudity doesn't make a show adult; the day America realizes that will be the day Toonami shows are shown uncut and Adult Swim will make the current standards right now blush.

As of now, Adult Swim can be seen as the best place to air anime in its near uncut goodness, with some of that anime happening to be adult.

Oh, and this is my 500th post. Yay.

[Aurochs]

If ADV added programming to Adult Swim and they didn't air Excel Saga, I would vommit.

As for the whole age thing, although the demographic for Adult Swim is 18+, that's a content statement, not a taste statement. You can't really state "so-and-so is for a certain age", because that's irrelevant. If you like a show, you like it. It doesn't matter what age you are. A large percentage of the "adults" that watch Adult Swim aren't legally adults. So if something is bawdy enough to merit Adult Swim instead of Toonami, bring it to Adult Swim.

[PeppeRaskell1]

EVA definitely belongs on Adult Swim...The drama, the dark themes, the angst of Shinji, the sad life behind the feisty facade of Asuka Langley Sohryu, the enigma that is Rei Ayanami, the hidden agenda of Gendo Ikari (did I spell his last name right?) and SEELE...This is sooooooooo not Toonami material!

And I just watched (and listened to) Saiyuki. This show DEFINITELY has Adult Swim written all over it...Especially when you see the pink-haired guy with the cigarette in his mouth!

PeppeRaskell 1
"...And you all thought the most memorable thing about EVA was Asuka, yes?"

"Drinks always taste best when a show closes..."

[Beat]

EVA is quite the oddity. As it stands right now, it doesn't fit anywhere on Cartoon Network. It would probably be better on TechTV.

As for the maturity of Lupin, look at the manga. That is some mature crap.

[Killtacular]

Even shows that are seen as adult in America, such as our beloved "Cowboy Bebop", were mainly marketed to younger age groups in Japan (note: I said "mainly," not "solely" ).
Cowboy Bebop was always targetted solely towards adults. In fact it was deemed too controversial for broadcast television and moved to the WOWOWOW premium station.

[Proteus3]

Cowboy Bebop was always targetted solely towards adults. In fact it was deemed too controversial for broadcast television and moved to the WOWOWOW premium station.

Anime Nation Anime Guru John, who has been into anime for over 15 years and one of the most knowledgeable people about anime, stated this in this article (http://www.animenation.net/news/askjohn.php?id=584)

Some American viewers may also interpret the drug use and intense violence of Cowboy Bebop as animation intended for adults, but director Shinichiro Watanabe has stated that the primary intended audience for Cowboy Bebop was teenagers.

This is proven by the constant references to American culture in this show, which are quite popular among Japanese youth.

[Killtacular]

Whaaat? I've never seen Watanabe say that.

[Killtacular]

And that article is stupid. For a guy who has 15 years of anime experience, he sure has no grasp on what adults enjoy. He once again adheres to the incorrect philosophy of "if you can understand the show, it MUST have been made for YOUR age group". Incorrect. Incorrect. INCORRECT. So a show is for teens if teens enjoy it? Then I guess that means The Powerpuff Girls is for adults because adults enjoy it. Yawgh. I wish I could explain my standpoint, but it's useless on a forum comprised of non-adults.

[Jude Santos]

Anime Nation Anime Guru John, who has been into anime for over 15 years and one of the most knowledgeable people about anime, stated this in this article

thats BS. john's opinion is no better than any of us. just becuase he's a 'guru' and writes an article doesnt mean he has any validity in his words, nor does he get a final word on any subject. im talking in general here. not just on the current subject.

[Cyporiean]

I know I'll get yelled at again for the follow sentence.... but the wording helps to add to my feelings for him...


John is a ****ing Moron.

[Sheamon]

Some American viewers may also interpret the drug use and intense violence of Cowboy Bebop as animation intended for adults, but director Shinichiro Watanabe has stated that the primary intended audience for Cowboy Bebop was teenagers.

Wha? Then one would expect that atleast most of the episodes could have aired on regular TV. Its one thing to have a couple of episodes cut for content, but HALF THE SERIES was axed the first time the show went on the air. For a show 'aimed towards teenagers' thats rather strange, don't you think?

I usually like reading John's stuff, but this time I'm gonna have to disagree.

[Zechs]

I don't think Bebop is all that adult. Most of the stuff they talked about I knew about by the time I was 11. As said before it al depends on what the people in the country the show is being aired thinks. I can tell you now most stuff on the anime they consider adult I knew about by age 13. That was back in the 90's I'm quite sure that kids now or days are finding out things even sooner than that. IMO most anime is not that adult. ( unless it's hentai which is a horse of a diffrent color)

[Killtacular]

I don't think Bebop is all that adult. Most of the stuff they talked about I knew about by the time I was 11. As said before it al depends on what the people in the country the show is being aired thinks. I can tell you now most stuff on the anime they consider adult I knew about by age 13. That was back in the 90's I'm quite sure that kids now or days are finding out things even sooner than that. IMO most anime is not that adult. ( unless it's hentai which is a horse of a diffrent color)

...another one.

I'm just going to start copying and pasting now.

So a show is for teens if teens enjoy it? Then I guess that means The Powerpuff Girls is for adults because adults enjoy it.

Oh, and Sealab 2021 must be for pre-schoolers because my little sister likes to watch it.

[Aurochs]

Matt's making the point that I was trying to make. People have individual tastes, and there are 5 year olds that like adult shows, it doesn't make them childrens' shows, it doesn't effect the target age demographic. My cat likes watching Dr. Who, because it, like every other television show consists of flashing lights. It doesn't make Dr. Who a "show for cats".

[Vekou]

Spike Spencer is the FREAK'N MAN!!! No one can scream like Spike Spencer...

I've never seen either Noir or Excel Saga, but I hear they are quite good.

True Eva isn't for adults... it's pretty much for Psychos and anyone else who can stand the tension of watching it... but as we've seen on Toonami... It could air anywhere else.
Yes, that is true. About Mr. Spencer's screaming and Evangelion not really being for adults, but it definitley DOES belongs on Adult Swim rather than Toonami or SVES.

[The Drizzle]

I still can't believe there are people here that think Cowboy Bebop is for teenagers. I'll let the Eva being for adults thing slide because I once thought that too, but Bebop's NOT for teens.

Just because a certain group of people watches the show it does not mean that the show was made for them. Look at Invader Zim. Teens/young adults/weirdos watch it. It was made FOR KIDS, not teens, young adults and weirdos. Do kids watch it though? If they did we'd probably be in season 3 by now.

Listen to Matt. He is all knowing.

[Chris Wood]

We're talking about a country that sells hentai right next to children shows because Japan is a society in which children will not buy hentai because they know they're not supposed to! So of course Americans and Japanese are going to have different perceptions of what's adult or not, because Americans tend to be more "shielded" from stuff that the Japanese are exposed to quite often.

Well said, but not entirely true. It is not so much that children will always steer clear of hentai, but that society is much more accepting of hentai images. Among the Japanese people I've known well, most start sneaking a peek at hentai publications sometime in elementary school and then get into it big time in junior high. In fact if you're a male teenager NOT reading any hentai magazines people will look at you funny. Even the regular comics like Shonen Jump have long photo spreads of girls in bikinis.

The Crayon Shinchan anime is clearly targeted at kids, and yet Shinchan (a 6? year old) is often seen trying to grope grown women.

For better or worse, such hentai tendencies are viewed as natural if not always socially acceptable behavior.

[Zechs]

...another one.

I'm just going to start copying and pasting now.

So a show is for teens if teens enjoy it? Then I guess that means The Powerpuff Girls is for adults because adults enjoy it.

Oh, and Sealab 2021 must be for pre-schoolers because my little sister likes to watch it.
IMO a show is for anybody who wants to watch regradless of age. My point is that people here in the states tend to make thigs worse than they really are. By saying certains things are adult when the cotent isn't even all that bad.

[Killtacular]

IMO a show is for anybody who wants to watch regradless of age. My point is that people here in the states tend to make thigs worse than they really are. By saying certains things are adult when the cotent isn't even all that bad.
I will respect that mentality, but I think it's a little naive. Especially if you were to apply it to other things, like movies, social events, and.. er, adult activities.

[Ikwig]

Yargh. . . what a lot of hullabaloo (gotta love that word! :p ). I thought the point of this thread was to list ADV properties which you would like to see on AS - whether or not the shows are "adult" (which is, in the end, only going to be some kind of compromise between the producing company's target audience and your personal opinion anyway) has nothing to do with whether or not YOU want to see it on AS.

Personally, I would love to see Bubblegum Crisis 2040 and Noir on AS. . . but that's just me. :D

[livingfruitvirus]

this thread sure went off topic

[Zechs]

I will respect that mentality, but I think it's a little naive. Especially if you were to apply it to other things, like movies, social events, and.. er, adult activities.
I'm not talking about things that could harm kids. My point is that if the person is mature enough to handle it they should be able to watch it no matter what age they are. Ratings are only there to warn parents so they can choose wither or not to let their kids watch this can also appli to those who don't like certain types oe movies. IMO ratings are only a waring and are not a cardanial law. Peopel can either choose to head or ignore them. If you look at the ratings system years ago some movies that are PG13 now would have gotten an R rating back then.