PDA

View Full Version : Reviews: Trigun [4/1 - 4/4]


Joe Tully
04-01-2003, 12:03 AM
The much-requested Trigun starts off this week. Use this thread to post your reviews and comments.

4/1- $$60,000,000,000 Man
4/2- Truth of Mistake
4/3- Peace Maker
4/4- Love and Peace

Vekou
04-01-2003, 12:07 AM
You could at least merge my other thread with this one... it was doing no harm.

Sorry if I stepped out of line by making it. I'm just excited about it, and heck, I didn't know it wasn't allowed.

Nabuca
04-01-2003, 12:11 AM
At least the Trigun AS intro is the best intro theyve made thus far. And the eyecatchers are intact!

Spike Mcdougal
04-01-2003, 12:12 AM
Well they kept the eyecatch :)

Nabuca
04-01-2003, 12:13 AM
The new AS Action promo is damn good as well.

RedBoot
04-01-2003, 12:14 AM
It'll be interesting to see whether they use the regular ending or adapt H.T. into the ending. After all, Lupin and Tenchi both had their OPs made into endings, and they're both Pioneer titles like Trigun...

And new Trigun viewers: Don't forget to look for Kuroneko in every episode! He's already appeared for this ep...

Artemis
04-01-2003, 12:14 AM
Even though I'm not surprised, it's sad they axed the OP. :( Couldn't they axe the horrible ED instead? ;)

Galaxia
04-01-2003, 12:14 AM
For some reason, that DBZ video game commercial cracked me up...

Anyway, Trigun is pretty good so far ^_^
And I found Kuroneko!

Spike Mcdougal
04-01-2003, 12:17 AM
Even though I'm not surprised, it's sad they axed the OP. :( Couldn't they axe the horrible ED instead? ;)

I have the feeling that i'm the only one that likes the ending

I love this part

Perfect Cell
04-01-2003, 12:20 AM
This episode is ok, but its just intro fodder, episode 2 is one of my favorites, still its just plain awesome to see Trigun my favorite anime on tv.

Nabuca
04-01-2003, 12:21 AM
"to the potty sir" - Bosch's delivery is so great.

Nabuca
04-01-2003, 12:23 AM
still its just plain awesome to see Trigun my favorite anime on tv.
I agree, I fell in love with this show 2 years ago and collected each DVD religiously, its just such a great feeling to see one of my favorites available to the masses on Adult Swim.

Nabuca
04-01-2003, 12:26 AM
Shortened ED, without all the scenes with Vash and Kuroneko.

Spike Mcdougal
04-01-2003, 12:26 AM
AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Preview before the credits then they sped them up like 0083

Vekou
04-01-2003, 12:26 AM
Three of my favorite Vash senes is in this episode... you know the ones.

"To the potty, sir!"
"Dangerous toys are fun, but you could get hurt!"
(And the whole part with the maniacal laughing and the thumb siwlry thing and the screaming)

They shortened Kaze Wa! Nooooooooooo...

KingKoopa
04-01-2003, 12:27 AM
That was seriously the worst ending edit ever. I always hated the Heart of Sword edit because it came in a couple seconds late while you could still hear an echo of the opening chord, but this edit cuts out mid phrase, so I definately consider this worse.

Artemis
04-01-2003, 12:28 AM
I have the feeling that i'm the only one that likes the ending

I love this part


Well I do love the visuals*. But the song...eh, I've heard better.


*=NOT THAT ANYONE HERE WILL SEE THAT BECAUSE OF PIONEER'S/WS'S EDIT! :p

i miss katy
04-01-2003, 12:28 AM
.
.
.

"double dollars?"

.
.
.

EroSennin
04-01-2003, 12:29 AM
eh I thought this was an ok episode. The intro scene in the bar was pretty cool. Ill have to see a few more episodes before I decide if I like it or not.

Amano Ginji
04-01-2003, 12:29 AM
Wow! Trigun is awesome!

"To the potty sir."

ROFL!

RedBoot
04-01-2003, 12:31 AM
Odd that they shortened the ending...after all, Reign, Bebop, and Inuyasha all run their full endings (I think Inuyasha does, anyway). Are the Trigun eps so long that both the OP and the ED have to be cut?

Anyhoo, I actually like the ending, oddly enough. However, the OP is better, and I'd rather see H.T. than the ending...

Anyhoo, I like the first episode of Trigun...it hooked me easily, and caused me to buy the rest of the DVDs...the second episode is definetly better, though. I also like the fourth episode, and the third is pretty good, so the rest of the week is certainly good.

And if anyone missed it: Kuroneko was in the bar at the beginning, when Meryl and Milly walked in.

DianaGohan
04-01-2003, 12:31 AM
Turns out this show wasn't as overhyped as it seemed to be from everyone's comments on it beforehand. A great mix of action and comedey makes for one great show, though as any pilot, it's hard to keep the players straight (Let's see, one of them is called Vash the Stampede but there's doubt that he is, one of them was Marle and Melly or something with an M, and I think the other main characters haven't been shown yet). And if episode 2 is any indication, this show has a great amount of drama and emotion as well. I'll be looking forward to that. I give this episode an A- (The confusion from being a first episode brought the grade down a bit).

Killtacular
04-01-2003, 12:32 AM
That Trigun ep barely fit 24:30, even with no OP and a shortened ED.

raykremer
04-01-2003, 12:33 AM
Finally, a first run anime on CN and I'm not one of the three people on these forums who hasn't seen it. Since my DVD player is on my PC, I even got to put on AS on my TV at the same time and watch Trigun in stereo-vision. Also, I got to see the opening and ending themes and you didn't. :p

Didn't look like there were any footage edits, but there were a few words that the AS version must have had edited out.

Now, I shall make cryptic remarks about future events: Gung-ho guns!

Amano Ginji
04-01-2003, 12:33 AM
EDIT.

The girls names were Meryl and Milly.

zmanjz
04-01-2003, 12:34 AM
.
.
.

"double dollars?"

.
.
.

I don't want to ruin one of the best suprises but...


Their not on earth, although the culture on the planet seems derived from the US' style of Weights, Measures, and money.



iles = miles
yarz = Yards
$$ = $

Artemis
04-01-2003, 12:36 AM
Didn't look like there were any footage edits, but there were a few words that the AS version must have had edited out.




Yeah, two s-words and one a-hole was gotten rid of, but there were no footage edits, IIRC.

nothing
04-01-2003, 12:37 AM
I'm pretty sure the girls names were Meryl and Millie(Or Milly).

adult swim dot com has character profiles of this any many of the other AS shows.

this series kicks much ass... i'm so pleased they decided to play it.

**sixty-four and counting**

KingKoopa
04-01-2003, 12:38 AM
That Trigun ep barely fit 24:30, even with no OP and a shortened ED.
Um, how about no. I just took out my DVD. Complete with eyecatches, OP and ED, the first episode runs 24:32. Matt, I don't know where you got 24:30 without OP/ED, but it's BS.

Botman
04-01-2003, 12:38 AM
And new Trigun viewers: Don't forget to look for Kuroneko in every episode! He's already appeared for this ep...


You mean that black cat creature?

Also could someone tell me (if it doesn't spoil anything) where and when this series takes place? (i.e. what year, planet, ect.)

RedBoot
04-01-2003, 12:39 AM
That Trigun ep barely fit 24:30, even with no OP and a shortened ED.

Alrighty then.

Odd, though. To me, Trigun doesn't seem any longer than a Bebop ep...does the average Bebop episode fit the 24:30 limit, full OP and ED and all?

zmanjz
04-01-2003, 12:40 AM
I'm pretty sure the girls names were Meryl and Millie(Or Milly).

Meryl Stryfe : The leader in white.

Milly Thompson: The tall, powerful, sweet one with the HUGE Gun.


Not just any gun, but the coolest kinetic stungun there is.

Nabuca
04-01-2003, 12:41 AM
I was hoping the AS intro would have some sort of Legato phrase. "I could kill every man, woman and child here in a blink of an eye if I wanted to, the power of death is intoxicating." I hope everyone is enjoying Trigun, and it keeps getting better.

RedBoot
04-01-2003, 12:42 AM
You mean that black cat creature?

Yup...he's in every episode. Sometimes he's easy to spot (such as today), sometimes you'll have to look closely. I think he even appears more than once in a few eps...find him in all 26 episodes, and you win...something.

raykremer
04-01-2003, 12:42 AM
I don't want to ruin one of the best suprises but...


Their not on earth, although the culture on the planet seems derived from the US' style of Weights, Measures, and money.


Should be obvious it's not earth, what with the twin suns and the horseclaws and all. And the whole show is derived from the Western genre, so weights, measures, and money may as well be American.

Kuro = black
neko = cat
Hense, Kuroneko. Like those three old guys in Bebop, he's everywhere.

Killtacular
04-01-2003, 12:45 AM
Um, how about no. I just took out my DVD. Complete with eyecatches, OP and ED, the first episode runs 24:32. Matt, I don't know where you got 24:30 without OP/ED, but it's BS.

Like I said, it barely fit within 24:30 (It was 23:55, I think). And I heard there are other episodes that DO go over 24:30, and not by just two seconds.

livingfruitvirus
04-01-2003, 12:49 AM
aw. what a time to fall asleep. good thing i own this series and have seen episode 1 a bajillion times. :) (i assume the s-word was edited out of tonight's episode) tonight i need sleep more than ever though

KingKoopa
04-01-2003, 12:50 AM
Like I said, it barely fit within 24:30 (It was 23:55, I think). And I heard there are other episodes that DO go over 24:30, and not by just two seconds.
Both the OP and ED are 90 seconds. I just timed them. The AS counterparts are each 30 seconds. That's two minutes of time cuts. That means that today's Trigun episode hit no more than 22:32, unless they pulled a minute and a half out of a magical hat or something.

zmanjz
04-01-2003, 12:51 AM
You mean that black cat creature?

Also could someone tell me (if it doesn't spoil anything) where and when this series takes place? (i.e. what year, planet, ect.)

It would spoil it... BUT



This takes place on a wasteland of a planet. It is not the Earth, but they seem to call it Earth.

This planet has 5 moons.

It takes place in the FAR distant future.

I'm unwilling to say too much even in a spoiler, but suffice it to say that much technology has been lost.

nothing
04-01-2003, 12:52 AM
CATFIGHT!!!

**sixty-two**

Sheamon
04-01-2003, 12:57 AM
Ah, so the mega hyped Trigun is finally on the air. Enjoyed the first episode, very goofy, but as long as every single episode isn't like this I won't mind. Can certainly see where the Bebop and Outlaw Star comparisons come from. Interesting twist on the main character too, with all the hype around him although he doesn't even kill people... Liked the dub a lot, always happy to see Dorothy Melendrez voicing (I hope, she's very cute :D) a recurring character, outside of Nina from Gundam 0083 of course, one of the most annoying characters ever :p Anyway, looking forward to tomorrow's ep. Please keep marking the spoilers for those like myself who have never seen the show. Did not appreciate it when Bebop was spoiled for me during its first run. -_-

livingfruitvirus
04-01-2003, 12:59 AM
**sixty-two**

....right

http://vitriol.fluidlight.com/sa/oneshots/postbringshope.jpg

Dogasu
04-01-2003, 12:59 AM
Well, this was the first time seeing Trigun dubbed, and I was actually pleasantly surprised by it. The only voice that seemed off to me was Vash himself--it was *almost* there, but there was something off about his performance that kept me from enjoying it. I'll just chalk it up to it being the first episode and all, and I'm sure that Mr. Yosch (or however you spell the voice actor's name) will settle in soon enough.

The loss of the OP was expected, but I actually can't stand "H.T." so I'm not gonna cry over it. The AS intro was actually pretty decent (a huge step up from the early AS intros--"Sit boy! Sit!!" :p ) even if it did recycle some Toonami music. The ending theme shortened was unexpected, though. It felt like the shortest ending to a Cartoon Network anime yet, and it was so obvious that they sped the thing up tremendously.

I actually like these first few episodes when Vash is really goofy, and I'm actually looking forward to seeing the episode about the alcoholic again (when does that one come on??).

Master Moron
04-01-2003, 01:02 AM
Like I said, it barely fit within 24:30 (It was 23:55, I think).

That doesn't make much sense, but whatever. It seems that no Pioneer show ever gets to air with it's original opening. Well, Tenchi aired it's original opening for a month...the WRONG original opening. But, at least we get the original ending on Trigun...well half of the original ending, which is a first for a Pioneer show. This is also the first time we get the original eyecatchers on a Pioneer show. Maybe Adult Swim Action isn't all that bad, but...Saturday Video Entertainment System is still better! *dodges furniture*

KingKoopa
04-01-2003, 01:04 AM
That doesn't make much sense, but whatever. It seems that no Pioneer show ever gets to air with it's original opening. Well, Tenchi aired it's original opening for a month...the WRONG original opening. But, at least we get the original ending on Trigun...well half of the original ending, which is a first for a Pioneer show. This is also the first time we get the original eyecatchers on a Pioneer show. Maybe Adult Swim Action isn't all that bad, but...Saturday Video Entertainment System is still better! *dodges furniture*
Doesn't make ANY sense. There is absolutely NO WAY that it was 23:55 or anywhere in the ballpark. Even if you count the disclaimer, it couldn't have possibly clocked in past 23:00.

gohan11
04-01-2003, 01:11 AM
The dub was much better than I expected.

Knew the OP was going to get cut. But for once I can say out of all the animes on TV, that I don't care if the ED got cut up. I always fast forward through Trigun's ED, never got used to that song.

JTurner954
04-01-2003, 01:17 AM
Monday's episode: Well, I feel the same way about this as I did with Roo Rouni (I know it's misspelled) Kenshin at first in that the episode are good but not at the level that it was hyped as (Kenishin improved so I would like to see the same happen with Trigun).

However, I could kind of see how people could like it as it is Bebop-esque with the action.The animation looked good even though it looked like Reign in some places (the guy with the stretched ears for example) but it is in no ways bad. I'm a little confused with why these people were hunting down Vash the Stampede (is the name explained?) and who those two women were. Other than that, it was entertaining although I hope it improves.

Overall grade: B

BTW, is it just me or did that guy singing during the ending credits sound like a Japanese version of Bob Dylan?

Arxane
04-01-2003, 01:35 AM
I'm a little confused with why these people were hunting down Vash the Stampede (is the name explained?)

All I'll say right now is yes, this is explained later on. Just be patient.

So, "Trigun" finally aired on Adult Swim, after months and months of "Trigun should air on AS" threads. And it arrives at the perfect time, right when AS editing standards have loosened up quite a lot.

The loss of "H.T" was expected, so I won't complain (and neither should anyone else; it gets annoying). Never cared for the ending, so I don't care about its shortening. At least they kept in the preview. And hey, they even kept in the eye-catchers. Now that just kicks ass. Now, about the show...

Love it! When I first saw this show in my high school anime club, I laughed my ass off. I thought it would be dark and disturbing, but no...it's cheeky and funny as hell (well, not as hell, but funny, nevertheless). Vash just kicks ass; I want a red coat like that, as well as those badass glasses. The episode is a great way to start the series off, that's about all I can say.

And the dub...terrific. Nothing else to say. Some of the performances were a little rocky, but they're tolerable. They'll improve as the series moves along.

And edits...other than the s-word, nothing was edited (although some people say that a-hole was. Don't remember that word in the dub...oh, well). The thing is, no blood was removed, no gunplay was removed, no mention of God was removed...Kyle Pope will have virtually nothing to do with this series.

Overall, an A for the first episode. The next episode is another good episode, so bring it on!

raykremer
04-01-2003, 01:55 AM
(although some people say that a-hole was. Don't remember that word in the dub...oh, well).
Yes, it was. "B***h", too, I assume that was edited as well.

So many people don't like H.T.? I like H.T. The ending theme is indeed a little bland though.

Killtacular
04-01-2003, 02:05 AM
bitc.h wasn't censored and CN's said "ass.hole" before, I'm fairly sure. According to Kyle Pope, the only censored word was "s.hit".

EDIT: I'm getting god damn annoyed by "b.itch" being censored by TZ. It's 90% of AS' readers' vocabulary.

David Lucas
04-01-2003, 02:15 AM
Hahaha, I get the best of BOTH worlds this week!!!

You see, up until last night, I've NEVER even seen 10 seconds of Trigun. I don't know why, I even have a friend who used to be our quarterback at high school that's had Vash's haircut for the last 2 years. Yesterday however, my friend let me borrow his entire VCD subbed collection, and no lie, I didn't go to sleep all night.

I just finished watching the entire series about 11 hours ago. So in this regard, I may now speak on behalf of both newbies and people who have seen the whole series alike.

So newbies first:

If you've enjoyed Rurouni Kenshin, you'll LOVE Trigun. Rurouni, while is one of the best shows I've seen in a while, has miserably failed attempts at humor sometimes. However, throughout it's 26 episodes, I've pissed my pants while watching Trigun at times. It's one of the funniest anime I've ever seen.

At the same time, ya know how Kenshin has that bad ass side to him? Vash has that......oh dear GOD does he have that. I'm not going to make tons of cryptic remarks like I have with the Kyoto Arc and Kenshin, because in all honesty this is the most fun I've had with anime since I first popped in Bebop: Session One 3 years ago. If anyone spoils anything for you, murder them without question.

Now for the people who have watched the whole series:

I HATE THAT FRIGGIN CAT! I hate his look, I hate how he shows up, and I hate that god damn sound he makes. Hehehe. I can't tell you how many times I wanted to just jump in and ring that cats neck, but at the same time laughed my ass off at it. Mainly because I watched 13 hours STRAIGHT of Trigun at 2 am. So everything is all still fresh in my hear although I am rather upset. I don't remember the episode but arrrgh, I dunno how to do spoilers on this new format!! Damn it all! Ok, newbies, I'm gonna be cryptic, forgive me and DO NOT READ FURTHER until I figure out how to do spoilers.

STOP READING!

Okay, uh, that guy, that was raised from birth to, do that thing, to Vash, and did the same thing, to all those people, that made Vash do that thing with his left hand for the first time.....

.....THAT episode, unfortunately cut off about 5 minutes in, and something tells me I missed one of the most bad ass episodes in the series. When the next episode started I was like "Okay, so basically I just missed the Trigun version of the Saitou/Kenshin fight, DAMN IT!"

Am I right? Was that episode really THAT bad ass?

Also, I have yet to see the dubbed version, I'll check it out tomorrow night, how are the voices, I really find it hard to believe someone can pull off Vash's voice in English, I mean the man hits like 27 different octaves in the entire series.

I'm sorry, but if you look at my previous posts in the Kenshin week one thread, when I first saw the Saitou kenshin fight I had spasms for days. I just watched the ENTIRE TRIGUN SERIES in the last 24 hours without ever having anything even told to me about the plot.

I am the happiest person alive right now. I LOOOOVE Trigun!! I love the theme song (it took 12 episodes to grow on me)! I love Meryl! I love everything about this series.

.......hell, I even love that Spike Speigel wanna be......EVERYONE who has watched Trigun knows who I'm talking about. I mean come on!! He had the same damn outfit, the same bad ass-ness, hell he even did the "pull the crumpled cigarette out of my shirt" move Mr. Speigel did. Not to mention, that OTHER thing he has in common with Spike in Trigun episode 24 I think. In all honesty though, he was my favorite character in the whole series. It's like Spike and Vincent finding each other in KOHD....well, if they were both light hearted idiots.

This is definitely one of my longer posts, and thats saying a LOT coming from me. Trigun, kicks, ass. That's all there is to it, I can't wait to watch the dubbed version for the first time tomorrow, it's like watching a whole new series. :)

Come on!! Everybody!!

Love and peace!! Love and peace!! Love and peace!!


Edit: I'll put a LOT of this in spoiler tags tomorrow when I find out how, if this spoiled anything for anyone.....gomen nasai.

thedigitalsin
04-01-2003, 02:15 AM
It would spoil it... BUT



This takes place on a wasteland of a planet. It is not the Earth, but they seem to call it Earth.

This planet has 5 moons.

It takes place in the FAR distant future.

I'm unwilling to say too much even in a spoiler, but suffice it to say that much technology has been lost.


The planet is called Gunsmoke.

I don't think it was ever brought up in the anime, but that's what they call it in the manga and on the packaging of the action figures.

Meson
04-01-2003, 02:16 AM
This episode confused me. What happened? It seemed to just start.
This is the first time I have seen Trigun, and I'm still indifferent Not as good as Cowboy Bebop, as some have said.

Rikou
04-01-2003, 02:29 AM
Love it! When I first saw this show in my high school anime club, I laughed my ass off.

Lucky bastard. We're not allowed to show Trigun in our club, "too violent." We're stuck watching nothing but *shudder* Hamtaro.

But so far I love Trigun, and am glad to hear nothing major was edited! And Kuroneko kinda freaked me out with that toothy grin thing.

livingfruitvirus
04-01-2003, 02:39 AM
And edits...other than the s-word, nothing was edited (although some people say that a-hole was. Don't remember that word in the dub...oh, well). The thing is, no blood was removed, no gunplay was removed, no mention of God was removed...Kyle Pope will have virtually nothing to do with this series.

yes, a-double-dollars-hole (pardon the pun) is in the dub.

.hack//Tsukasa
04-01-2003, 03:19 AM
how manny donughts did he eat during the first ep?

G1Ravage
04-01-2003, 03:27 AM
I hate sloppily made "shortened" endings. Especially ones like Gundam 0080's where the music suddenly cuts off. What's even worse is that the credits WS put into 0080's shortened ending only credit the Japanese voices of all people, and then it's only the Japanese voices used for the first episode.Trigun's shortened ending is bland, and the credits scroll by way too fast.

The expression on Kuroneko's face when the girls walk into the bar is priceless.

And why edit out ass.hole? I've heard 'jack.ass' used on Toon Heads.

Fata Morgana
04-01-2003, 03:46 AM
bitc.h wasn't censored and CN's said "ass.hole" before, I'm fairly sure. According to Kyle Pope, the only censored word was "s.hit".

"Ass.hole" was censored as well, actually.

*ahem, ahem* http://www.sandyplanet.com/index2.html *cough, cough*

Fata Morgana

Sir Gatts
04-01-2003, 03:59 AM
Monday: It's been quite some time since I've seen Trigun. I'll still be looking forward to this run as I thought then that this was quite an good series. Yet this time around I'll be keeping an eye out for Kuroneko-sama throughout each episode,.. and of course to see CN's treatment of this series.

This first episode was ok in that it gives an general description of some of these characters while providing some good action & comedy sequences. Though characters Vash, Meryl, and Milly seem to be rather half cocked when it comes to taking action, thus enter the comedy sequences.

Bandit
04-01-2003, 05:03 AM
aw. what a time to fall asleep. good thing i own this series and have seen episode 1 a bajillion times. :) (i assume the s-word was edited out of tonight's episode) tonight i need sleep more than ever though

heh, me too. after futurama i started to study and fell asleep, and woke up at the end of inuyasha :p

EightOh
04-01-2003, 05:13 AM
Wow. That frigging ROCKED! I was just sort of soaking it in at first, but when the first eyecatch(really cool to see them in there, by the way) popped up as it went to commercial and I realized the episode was halfway complete, I actually felt upset that there were less than 15 minutes left. In the first episode. Man, this show is awesome.

I can definitely see why there's so much praise for Johnny Yong Bosch and the rest of the dub's voice cast. This is just great.

Kyle Pope will have virtually nothing to do with this series.That's exactly what I've been hoping for. :)

Oh, and I'll close with one final thought: "To the potty, sir!" :D

TheArtist2MT
04-01-2003, 07:26 AM
Trigun
The $$60,000,000,000 Man

Been some time since I posted, guess I never had much to say. With Trigun's appearance, however, I feel it's time to wake up. :)

My first impression of the series when I first watched it (subtitles and everything) I was shocked, amazed, intriguied and loved every second of it, from the beggining to the end, with the only exception being episode 13, the "recap" episode. It wasn't a bad episode, just a bit boring. No biggie.

Now for Adult Swim's treatment of Trigun : I've seen every possible reason discussed as to why opening anime segments are replaced. Reading about how it is possible that the intro for Trigun may stay intact, I got my hopes up. Speaking to all who have seen Trigun already, be it the DVDs or by other means, such as burned CDs bought at merchants in Chinatown, you all know the intro is something to behold. The song along caught my attention immediately, unlike any other anime I've seen so far, with Cowboy Bebop being the only other anime that truly captivated me by its intro song. Low and behold, a custom opening begins as i wake up this morning to my tape of Trigun . I won't lie, I was mad. However, I do agree with many others that the intro was done well... very well in fact. I guess I'm being a bit picky, but I STILL would've liked the Japanese intro. Oh well. Did it ruin the experience? Not in the least! :)

On to the English cast. I enjoyed every voice of the original Japanese cast, in particular Milly Thompson, Vash and Wolfwood (he appears soon :)) The only problem I had with the Jap. voices was that one or two voices were a tad annoying... The Nebraska family? Oi vey! What was I expecting from the English cast? Not much to be honest. I've seen my share of dubbed anime and even though Adult Swim has aquired some great dubs, I still was skeptical, especially Vash's character as a whole, the quirky, crazy, lucky guy with quite a personality which shifts later when we learn of the Gung-ho Guns and Knives, but he still retains his old personality.
I was incredibly shocked when I heard Vash's voice... absolutely wonderful. I had the actor's name on my mind all day, but of course it escapes me, but he did an amazing job of capturing Vash to the letter. Even Vash's screams were as magnificantly done as the Japanese actor did. I commend everyone of the cast of Trigun, even the man who played the huge guy with the mohawk (I found the English voice of this character to be better than the Japanese one, actually). Milly Thompson's voice (the tall female for those who don't know each by name just yet) began rather poorly, but I already heard improvements as the episode came to a close. <applause> However, my one gripe came from Merly Strife , the other female. Her voice seemed to be rather stale and uninspired. Even in scenes where a line should've been semi-yelled out felt forced and unrealistic. It's not to say the actress in question was atrocious... but I feel she could've been leagues better. Does her voicing improve? Time will tell... or those who have the DVDs. :p

I won't go into a detailed edit list; in fact, I'll opt to just kind of mention my thoughts from what I remember from the unedited subs. NOTHING, I mean NOTHING was edited. Period. In fact, I heard additions. I do not recall Hell being used so often (hah, is Hell even considered a MINOR curse anymore?), i don't remember bastard being used either, but good dialogue additions in my opinion! Yet, in the bar, I thought i remember the man calling Milly a ***** about her gun, not a witch. I could be wrong, and I know the dub was done some time ago, but I kind of expected ***** after Lupin III used it so... tastefully :D Otherwise, not one single edit! Even the inbetween-commercial-guitar-riff was left in! Nice!
<sighs blissfully> Upon watching the episode again, I see the English dub DOES use the b-word! I stand corrected! Very cool indeed. I guess watching a show at 6am in the morning while waiting for your morning coffee to perculate is NOT the best time to grasp anything very well :)

The episode is one of my favorites before the recap at #13. The episode begins with a wonderful intro to the man in the red coat, ending with quite a bit of comedy. Mmm... donuts... Although fairly light on story, I love the episode nonetheless. Great way to start a series, and it only gets better! :) Now all we need are some new smilies... Vash ? Wolfwood ? Legato ? Hm... :D

Overall, Trigun has found a new place on Adult Swim, and I'm glad to see it left as it should be viewed. Is the intro really that big of a deal? Maybe to anime-purists. I am merely a fan, and although I pine for the intro, it won't stop me from watching or enjoying my absolute favorite anime of all time.

BTW, I apologize for the lengthy post. When i get into a topic, I get carried away... sorry!
LOVE AND PEACE!

One last thing: Will the b-word ever be able to be typed on the forum? It is said here and there on Adult Swim and according to the rules: anything spoken on AS is fair game... sorry to be a pain... just curious...

kaine23
04-01-2003, 08:33 AM
Grea tto finally see Trigun again. my trigune xperiences came aobut one New years weekend. A friend had the first English DVD and bought the set of Trigun subbed from Chinatown, so we watched the first disc in English and all the rest later subbed.

Milly and Meryl are the Kioyne and Mioshi of Trigun.

Perfect Cell
04-01-2003, 09:26 AM
Not to complain too much, but i just dont really like the dub, there are times in the episodes that the dub just doesnt deliver the uniqueness of it to me. I think its episode 17 actually that has my favorite part and its just much funnyer in japanese.


Anyways, episode 1 is mostly to introduce the characters. It still has some funny moments, the guys in the bar calling Milly a monster, and the face Vash puts when he tells him about dangerous toys :) Cant wait for episode 2 though, love that one.

Nabuca
04-01-2003, 09:44 AM
Not to complain too much, but i just dont really like the dub, there are times in the episodes that the dub just doesnt deliver the uniqueness of it to me. I think its episode 17 actually that has my favorite part and its just much funnyer in japanese.


Anyways, episode 1 is mostly to introduce the characters. It still has some funny moments, the guys in the bar calling Milly a monster, and the face Vash puts when he tells him about dangerous toys :) Cant wait for episode 2 though, love that one.
Trigun sounds so natural and "right" in English, and like I have said before it is my favorite dub job. The last few years has seen a decent amount of dub jobs that have outshined the Japanese counterparts.

Chosen Raven
04-01-2003, 10:05 AM
I loved this first episode. Vash's voice actor is great! My experience with Trigun only goes through the first four episodes. I quit watching after I learned that two characters act extremely out of character in future episodes(what?.....I really liked those characters).

Zechs
04-01-2003, 10:11 AM
I liked this show a lot I've seen the first 13 eps and they rocked. It seems that they didn't cut anything hope it remains the same throught the whole series.

StrangerAtaru
04-01-2003, 10:35 AM
First time I have seen Trigun since my anime club viewing a couple years ago (and the first time I have seen it dubbed), so I was definately excited about seeing it again (even if it was the first episode). You're probably going to hear "This show is a lot like Kenshin" a lot in the next few weeks, but believe me, it sort of is. The intro (we all knew they would cut out "H.T.", didn't we?) was pretty cool, even though it did have a couple minor spoilers in it. As for the episode itself, personally one of the things I love about Vash the Stampede is the speed he can go from serious to goofy and back again! (which is one of the things I like about him over Kenshin, even if both are cool in their serious guise) It just adds to the intrigue that this "Humanoid Typhoon" is this weird, donut-loving guy, who hates killing. (I always love that scene where he takes control of that gun and fires it on a rock for a self-portrait) As for the insurance girls, I never really liked Meryl that much, but at least she had a good voice. Milly's, though, was cute as heck! As for the ending, personally I wished they played a part of "H.T." (it can easily be sliced into an ending theme), but the ending song was never a problem with me.

Kuroneko watch: One in the bar where we first meet Meryl and Milly.

Patches
04-01-2003, 11:18 AM
Yay, Trigun! The dub was better than I remember it being, but Bosch still sounded too young for Vash for some reason. I dunno. It seemed like he was trying to imitate Japanese Vash and almost succeeded. Just a little more, and he'll be okay.

One of my biggest gripes was the custom intro. I thought it was pretty neat, but it was peppered with spoilers all over the place. And the ending could have been edited better. At least cut the song off at the end of a phrase! Sheesh.

But, um, yeah. Other than that, it made me grin.

"Danke danke!"

Conekiller
04-01-2003, 11:36 AM
Ahhhh, Trigun it's been a while and I almost forgot how piss-pants funny it is. Tonight's ep for some reason seems to have the best animation in the show to me. especially the undergorund scenes, I dunno, I guess the colors and modelling is great on them. i dunno.

Good ep, if not a little confuzing (I STILL don't get how the big guy's arm mechanism works) but it's gonna be fun wathcing these again.

serenitymoon
04-01-2003, 11:57 AM
I have to admit, last night ep was the first time I've seen Trigun... and I loved it. Vash is such a goof, dancing around those bullets. I was gonna ask if he actually has any skills with that gun of his (of which he never had any bullets in this ep) or whether he always prevailed by dancing around like an idiot. But as people seem to indicate in previous posts, he has that goofy/serious side to him like Kenshin. So that makes things interesting. I was thinking if he didn't, this series might get a bit redundant. Anyway, good ep, I look forward to tonight's (even more so because of the stupid monkey day event that bumps Kenshin off for the day, bummer. I have to wait for my anime fix for the day...).

P.S. Loved the scene where he takes that other guy's gun to make a portrait of himself in the cliff. He should study to be an artist! If he could draw with bullets like that, the boys got talent! :p

TsuiTsui
04-01-2003, 12:35 PM
I finally got to see what Trigun is really about last night and am abit surprised that this show (well, the first episode) is zanier than I had thought! I think I still prefer Cowboy Bebop over this series; Trigun is abit more of a "cowboy-western" theme judging by the visuals, but this is just my preference in artistic style. I am curious to see the "serious" side of Vash, though.

Speaking of VAs, I KNOW I have heard the voice of Meryl Strife, the short-haired female character, from somewhere. After looking it up, is it really Kaoru from Rurouni Kenshin?

Millions Knives
04-01-2003, 12:45 PM
bitc.h wasn't censored and CN's said "ass.hole" before, I'm fairly sure. According to Kyle Pope, the only censored word was "s.hit".


Maybe I was tired but I swear I heard "You little witch" instead.

Arxane
04-01-2003, 12:54 PM
Maybe I was tired but I swear I heard "You little witch" instead.

You must've been tired. He said b*itch, just like in the sub.

Masamune2052
04-01-2003, 12:59 PM
Well it's good to see Trigun come to Adult Swim, or rather Cartoon Network, finally. I'm once again reminded of how good the dub voice for Vash is and how funny he can be. The first episode of Trigun is similar to the first episode of Kenshin: you've got the guy pretending to be the invincible good guy, nobody thinks that it's really the main character, and everybody wants to find him. Only difference is in Kenshin he revealed his Battousai identity in the first episode whereas it takes like 5 episodes to know for sure that it is Vash the Stampede. Anyways, good first episode, unfortunately all the episodes end with that god forsaken ending theme ><

Dogasu
04-01-2003, 01:09 PM
bitc.h wasn't censored and CN's said "ass.hole" before, I'm fairly sure. According to Kyle Pope, the only censored word was "s.hit".

When has anyone ever said "ass.hole" on CN? The word is always bleeped out on TV-14 shows, always.

Aurochs
04-01-2003, 01:20 PM
This show is excelent. I have no constructive input though, so ignore this post.

Shnay
04-01-2003, 02:04 PM
This was my first viewing of Trigun, and, I gotta say...I'm not really impressed. I guess it's just me, because everyone else seems to love it, but I thought it was just...okay.

It was definitely not what I was expecting (perhaps that was part of the reason I didn't enjoy it all that much). I had thought this was a mostly serious series (with some jokes intersperced) and a badass lead character. It turns out (judging solely on this episode, I guess this changes later) that the lead character is a goof who can shoot, and the humor is mostly off-the-wall type stuff, like Vash scarfing down a box of doughnuts.

I've got no problem with that type of humor when it's funny, but I didn't think the humor in this episode really worked that well. It had it's moments: the "...potty, sir!" line was good, and I liked the bit with the girls in the bar. But, overall, I thought it was a bit weak. I dunno, maybe it's a bit too goofy for my tastes. Maybe it'll become funnier once I get to know the characters more.

Speaking of the chracters, I think they defintiely have a lot of potential. I thought Vash was generally an interesting character, (though he got on my nerves a bit) I thought the one insurance girl, the ditzy one with the huge gun, was pretty funny, and the guy with the cross-shaped shotgun (they called him Ruth, but I've heard on this board that he's called Woodward or Wolfwood, or something) seems really cool. I didn't think they were that great in this episode, but it's just an intro, so you can't expect too much. Like I said, I think they have a lot of potential.

The show looks nice, about as good as I expected. It's got some really cool direction at certain parts. The shot of the line of guys firing on the bar was excellent. When they focused soley on the guns, and show that one guy reload without moving the camera at all...too cool.

The dub...seems good enough. I wouldn't call it great, I wouldn't call it bad. Nothing really irritated me, but none of the voices really stood out as being memorable, either.

The show's got a lot of potential, and anything with this much hype merrits a viewing. I hope I get to like it as much as everyone else does, especially since this is the only new show on AS right now.

Nabuca
04-01-2003, 02:08 PM
Maybe I was tired but I swear I heard "You little witch" instead.
Nope, it was b.itch. The only things cut were the occasional s.hit and as.shole.

Fata Morgana
04-01-2003, 02:10 PM
This was my first viewing of Trigun, and, I gotta say...I'm not really impressed. I guess it's just me, because everyone else seems to love it, but I thought it was just...okay.

My reaction was exactly the same the first time I watched Trigun, so don't despair... it does get better.

and the guy with the cross-shaped shotgun (they called him Ruth, but I've heard on this board that he's called Woodward or Wolfwood, or something) seems really cool.

No, no, that wasn't Wolfwood.... Wolfie doesn't come into it until about episode 10, I think. Ruth only appears in this episode, he won't appear again.

Fata Morgana

Michael
04-01-2003, 02:29 PM
It was good, didnt see many edits though, but it has been a year since i have watched it....

Beat
04-01-2003, 02:41 PM
Funny ep, decent eyecather (but could ya go a little easier on the spoilers?) means I'll watch.

livingfruitvirus
04-01-2003, 03:14 PM
When has anyone ever said "ass.hole" on CN? The word is always bleeped out on TV-14 shows, always.

never. it was said on The Oblongs once but CN made sure to dump it before it hit the airwaves.

"Comon move it _________!"

Will Sturnick
04-01-2003, 03:37 PM
I liked it, it wasn't the greatest. Though, 1st episodes are rarely a good judge of how good a series is since things are just getting started. I'll give it an 88%.

Beat
04-01-2003, 03:38 PM
Heavy edits, "sigh".

Chuquita
04-01-2003, 03:55 PM
Wow, not bad. Not bad at all :) When I first saw the commercials for this I thought it was gonna be some boring serious thing, but I have to say I really enjoyed the humor in this. Those two insurance girls do remind me of Mihoshi and Kiyone :D (someone mentioned them earlier)

So far, I like the main character. (Vash) Goofy guy, the donut thing was hilarious. I hope they're still able to keep the humor when it gets more serious (from what I've read on this thread) because I liked the first couple Kenshin episodes but just tuned out when he started doing that Batosei (sp?) part of his character so many episodes in a row.

I have good hopes for this show so far, I've heard about it online but I never really get interested until I see an episode for myself. I think I might get to like Trigun after all :) Can't wait for the next episode!

Mackenzie Rainelle
04-01-2003, 04:03 PM
I missed it. Did they still have the "...Wait, why am I screaming in French?" line? I SO loved that.

Artemis
04-01-2003, 04:10 PM
That's in next week's episode, Mackenzie. *poke* Now you've been poked!

Orion_of_Chaos
04-01-2003, 04:57 PM
I dunno...
this dub just didn't feel right to me...
Vash's VA was trying to sound like the Japanese VA, but he was off by a bit...
I just didn't like Meryl's voice...
also, is it me, or did they give the guy with the boomerang more lines than he had in the Japanese version?
I don't remember him talking that much...
and the edit of the ending credits pissed me off...
and I love how they showed part of the last episode in the OP...

I think I'll stick to my subbed DVDs...

Steph
04-01-2003, 05:30 PM
*Tips cowgirl hat*

I could not be any happier at this moment! Missed the first episode but I've seen a gazillion times! Thanks to my low income of money all those darn mangas are costing me, I only have the first DVD. ^_^;
Anyway, I've watched the series up to number 13 and I've read the whole story line at (For those of you that can't wait any longer and haven't been introduced to this great site!)

http://www.theotaku.com/trigun/episodeguide.shtml

This website also holds all the location of the cat. Go Kuroneko! Whoo Hoo! (Finding that darn cat became an obession with the first 13 episodes!) =^_1= MEOW!

The only word of advice for new Trigun fans is;
DON'T give up on the show! A lot of friends that I have stopped watching Trigun after the fifth episode. They said it was to 'goofy'. It gets REALLY deep later on!

*Glomps all of Adult Swim's important people* THANK YOU for sending down this greatness from heaven on to my television set!

Love y'all,
Steph ^_^'

Conekiller
04-01-2003, 05:42 PM
and I love how they showed part of the last episode in the OP...


Actually I was kinda disappointed by that, they really should keep spoilers down to a minimum in the Op

Amano Ginji
04-01-2003, 05:48 PM
*Tips cowgirl hat*

This website also holds all the location of the cat. Go Kuroneko! Whoo Hoo! (Finding that darn cat became an obession with the first 13 episodes!) =^_1= MEOW!

The only word of advice for new Trigun fans is;
DON'T give up on the show! A lot of friends that I have stopped watching Trigun after the fifth episode. They said it was to 'goofy'. It gets REALLY deep later on!

*Glomps all of Adult Swim's important people* THANK YOU for sending down this greatness from heaven on to my television set!

Love y'all,
Steph ^_^'


That's the cutest thing I've read today.
^_^x

Mackenzie Rainelle
04-01-2003, 05:49 PM
That's in next week's episode, Mackenzie. *poke* Now you've been poked!

Heh, I forgot. ^^;;;;; Alieve and orange soda do not a steel trap mind make. ^^

Kuronekosama: Nyao. >=_=<

Oh, you stay out of it.

Sketch
04-01-2003, 08:51 PM
Trigun was everything I had hoped it to be!

It's kinda weird to her Bosch as Vash. I still remember him from Power Rangers, but it works imo.

Did anyone catch the "Not For Air" clip before the show started with clips of Batman and Robin?

"Holy *#$&*& $*(#&(@ Batman!" - Wow Robin's a potty mouth...
"Solomon Grundy $*#&#*ed us good Robin" - He sure did Batman...

The Landstander
04-01-2003, 08:55 PM
i usually dont like anime, but ive decided to give Trigun a chance. the first episode really didnt do much for me, but maybe ill get more into it as the show moves on.

Nabuca
04-01-2003, 09:07 PM
The Gung Ho Guns like to call Vash "Chicken S***", I wonder what they are going to change it to, probably coward.

Moonbay
04-01-2003, 09:39 PM
Cool episode, I'm falling in love with Trigun all over again. Nobody suspects the dork in the red coat *sigh* ^^;;

skite
04-01-2003, 11:11 PM
i love this show even though ive seen it many times :deedee: but the only thing i dont like is meryl and millys voices meryl and milly sound way much better in the jap version milly sounds kinda a little smart when in the jap version milly is like the dense one not stupid just carefree kinda but i think i can get use to this :bosko:

Spike Mcdougal
04-02-2003, 12:20 AM
"Wait time out, time out!!!!!!!!"


The there's eariler where he jumped Meryl

"SCARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

RedBoot
04-02-2003, 12:26 AM
I love that ep.

I never could figure out what exactly Vash says when he dodges the first bullet...I think he screams "SCARY!!!" but I'm not sure...

Kuroneko was easy in this one...he was being dragged along by the guy and his kid at the beginning of the ep...

DianaGohan
04-02-2003, 12:28 AM
Pretty fun episode. Not really much in terms of emotion and drama (except maybe when Vash tried to open up to Mary Anne but couldn't due to the fact that he would get arrested) but plenty of action and comedey (Dodging all those bullets and then flicking the water tycoon and knocking him down was a pretty sweet scene). The Meryl/Millie Conversations are pretty fun too. To sum it up, I would give this episode an A- (Because nothing stands out enought to give it an A).

Amano Ginji
04-02-2003, 12:30 AM
I asked her to close her curtains..

Vash: Why'd you do th- er..I would never do something like-

*Vash punches himself*

* High-pitched, maniacal laughter*

JTurner954
04-02-2003, 12:32 AM
Tuesday's episode: Well this seemed a little more entertaining than yesterday mostly because of the improved humor. I have one question: Before we know she's a marshall, who was she suppose to be disguised as?

It seems like the show is slowly improving but the grade remains the same so far.

Overall grade: B

Arxane
04-02-2003, 12:37 AM
Tuesday's episode: Well this seemed a little more entertaining than yesterday mostly because of the improved humor. I have one question: Before we know she's a marshall, who was she suppose to be disguised as?

It seems like the show is slowly improving but the grade remains the same so far.

Overall grade: B

As a personal guest of Cliff's, namely the daughter of one of his higher-up friends. He does that to keep up appearances, like all rich snobs do. Of course, everyone suspected him, so they sent in a Marshal disguised as someone's daughter...*don't think. Brain hurts*

Orion_of_Chaos
04-02-2003, 06:20 AM
Actually I was kinda disappointed by that, they really should keep spoilers down to a minimum in the Op

ya, I was being sarcastic, but these boards don't have a smilie to show that...

Conekiller
04-02-2003, 10:53 AM
I claim again that I beleive that last night's ep has the best animation the show has. I dunno know exactly what it is tho, I guess it was handled by a different animation group, or just a higher budget, but the lines seemed crisper,t he colors seemed clearer and more vibrant and the movement of the charactrs seemed smoother. all in all just better (like the difference from a regular TV ep to a made for TV special)

good ep A-

Nabuca
04-02-2003, 11:14 AM
I claim again that I beleive that last night's ep has the best animation the show has. I dunno know exactly what it is tho, I guess it was handled by a different animation group, or just a higher budget, but the lines seemed crisper,t he colors seemed clearer and more vibrant and the movement of the charactrs seemed smoother. all in all just better (like the difference from a regular TV ep to a made for TV special)

good ep A-
I noticed that on the DVD, episode 2 seems to have a crisper quality to it, like it was captured from a different source material, but I wouldnt say it has the best animation in the series, its hard to beat some of the excellent animation in the final episode. As with alot of recent TV anime, animation quality rises and falls and rises again as the series goes on. Trigun has moments of beautiful animation, and also has moments where it looks like the budget ran out. The battle with Rai-Dei for example has very choppy animation, while the final 3 episodes have some of the best animation in the series. I hate nitpicking any of my favorite series...

Perfect Cell
04-02-2003, 12:06 PM
Love this episode, especially the comment when he says his bullets never miss the heart of a beutifull woman, and Merryl falls to the floor gagging in disgutst. Classic Stuff... Or the way they changed his face when he wanted to look heroic. Thats what i love about this series.

Episode 2 is one of my favorites :)

Michael
04-02-2003, 01:58 PM
Vash craks me up, I am beginning to like the VA for him :)

Good epsiode heh

TheArtist2MT
04-02-2003, 02:09 PM
Trigun
Truth of Mistake

Not a bad espisode last night. Great moments include the whole "sneaking in" part, the whole mystery revolving around Marianne (was cooler when I DIDN'T already know :)) and the window scene. This episode definitely begins to show Vash's "womanizing" side. :cool:

As for the show as a whole, the man's voice was done quite well (name escapes me) for a guy you only see once. Marianne's voicing wasn't too shabby either. More emotion from Meryl this time and I'm happy to report it! :)

I guess there isn't that much to say when your last post was three pages! :D

Until tomorrow, just know that you don't need God for a miracle.

David Lucas
04-02-2003, 02:17 PM
Vash craks me up, I am beginning to like the VA for him :)

Good epsiode heh

This was the first english episode I ever saw, I gotta say Adam does a pretty good job hitting the same pitches as Japanese Vash. Episode 2 has one of my favorite jokes in the whole series.

"I would never dream of doing anthing like..<punches himself in face> I mean, of course good thinking, very sensible idea, Mr. Cliff."

<the funniest, scariest laughter I ever heard>
"HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHA..later....."

I couldn't believe how perfectly Johnny nailed that line, that was actually one of the only ones I was worried about in the whole series. As long as he hit that laugh, and that really fast "later" I'm all set for him as the VA.

I just hope his "Love and Peace" line at the end of episode 5 is as funny as the original too. :-d

Aberration
04-02-2003, 02:57 PM
My two cents...

Didn't really like the first episode, episode 2 was an improvement though. I can't remember if I cared for the earlier Bebop episodes the first time around, but I'll stick around and hope that this show surprises me too.

The voices are ok, nothing spectacular yet. And I haven't heard the original Japanese VAs, so I couldn't compare. It's kinda odd to hear how Johnny Yong Bosch's voice being so expressive though, he was overly wooden during his first year on Power Rangers (granted, it was probably his first major acting job, and that was 10 years ago? Shoot, I'm old...)

Chuquita
04-02-2003, 03:40 PM
:p Very good episode. I'm definately sticking around for episode 3! I really like Vash. And they used the donut gag again! :D I thought it was funny how Mary Ann's officer outfit looked sort of like a female counterpart to Vash's.

When do Milly and Meryl find out who Vash really is? Is it anytime this week or next week?

RedBoot
04-02-2003, 03:49 PM
When do Milly and Meryl find out who Vash really is? Is it anytime this week or next week?

If ya want to know...

IIRC, Meryl finally accepts that he is Vash in the fifth episode. Milly has believed him all along, but she's sort of an airhead, so...:p

Steph
04-02-2003, 03:51 PM
This was the first english episode I ever saw, I gotta say Adam does a pretty good job hitting the same pitches as Japanese Vash. Episode 2 has one of my favorite jokes in the whole series.


I just hope his "Love and Peace" line at the end of episode 5 is as funny as the original too. :-d


I'd have to say the "LOVE and PEACE" thing is GREAT! I've seen episode 5 already and he does it VERY well. (The villians face is SO great when he does it!)

Very few times do I say I'm completely happy with the voices ('cept for Miroku on Inuyasha!) but Vash makes me smile everytime he talks! ('Specially when he laughs!)

What makes Vash's voice so unique is how quickly he can go from his horrifying sqeaky laughter to the serious deep hero voice.

*Glomps Kuroneko plushie* Kuroneko numba' 2 has been spotted! But can you spot him tonight? Good Luck!

I can't wait for tonight's episode! *Giggles* Vash is so crazy when he's . . . *Covers mouth* Whoops! Can't reveal that now! *Laughs hysterically*

Does anyone thing its odd that Vash is SO serious at the revealing of the next episode? I thought it was strange at first but I love it now. *Sticks out tongue at non-believers* See! Vash is deep!

My favorite saying tonight was;

Meryl heard in the background talking bad about Vash. . .

Milly - She's really very nice when you get to know her.
Vash - She's really very nice and -loud-.

'bye y'all!
Stephy

StrangerAtaru
04-02-2003, 03:51 PM
Personally, even though it is just me, I never quite liked the second episode of the series as much as the first episode of the series, or others for that matter. I guess one of my biggest problems is the whole "is he or isn't he?" bit that Meryl is forced to go through in the first several episodes about, well, Vash. But I did like the whole "monopolizing water" storyline....reminded me a little of "Chinatown" in that matter. And for some reason, I just love the bit where Vash hangs from the window like Spiderman...don't know why though.

BTW: Johnny Yong Bosch was Vash? Never knew that one? First Walter Jones on "Space Cases", then Jason David Frank on "Undressed", now this. PR alums really get around, huh?

Kuroneko watch: One being dragged along by a father and son at the beginning.

Will Sturnick
04-02-2003, 05:06 PM
Funny episode, a 94%. I really give indepth reviews don't I?

lostrune
04-02-2003, 05:23 PM
Love this episode, especially the comment when he says his bullets never miss the heart of a beutifull woman, and Merryl falls to the floor gagging in disgutst. Classic Stuff...
I thought she was also being sarcastically egotistic, pretending the bullet hit her as one such beautiful woman.

Dark Spider
04-02-2003, 06:49 PM
Man, this show is awesome...I can't get enough of it. I really like Vash's character a whole lot. He's funny, charismatic and just plain cool. But I can't see him as serious though...I guess I just have to wait and see.

The other characters, Meryl and Millie are pretty cool too. They have the SAME exact chemistry as my beloved Kiyone and Mihoshi from Tenchi Muyo, so its just like the good old times for me (although Meryl will never be Kiyone :) , which is good).

Can't wait until the next episode...

JetMaster5
04-02-2003, 07:38 PM
That's it. Trigun's got me hooked. I'm addicted. Vash the Stampede is great. Like the interactions between Merryl and Mille. This is turning out to be a great series.

This is so great. Rurouni Kenshin on Toonami and Trigun on Adult Swim. I'll never get my eyes off of CN now. :p

Mackenzie Rainelle
04-02-2003, 09:09 PM
This is just me, but Millie seems more childlike than airheaded. I mean, the stuff she says actually makes sense and has to do with what's going on, it's just that it's usually either obvious already or some cheery little observation that comes at the wrong time. But still has to do with the situation, instead of wandering off into absolute randomness, which is typically a sign of anime airheadedness.. She seems more like a happy, optimistic little girl in a very large body than a true ditz that has no clue what's going on around her.

Conekiller
04-02-2003, 09:37 PM
Millie isn't Airheaded, she's....simple. she's had to develop a high ammount of patience and understanding in her huge family (doesn't she have like 9 siblings?!)

I like her alot moe than Maryl anyway

SirLemming
04-02-2003, 10:44 PM
I was immediately impressed by the voice actor for Vash. He just sounds... different from all the other typical anime characters. Even though I knew nothing at all about the series or Vash aside from what I was seeing just then, the voice seemed to fit the character perfectly.

TnAdct1
04-02-2003, 11:34 PM
BTW: Johnny Yong Bosch was Vash? Never knew that one? First Walter Jones on "Space Cases", then Jason David Frank on "Undressed", now this. PR alums really get around, huh?

You forgot Amy Jo Johnson on "Felicity". As for me finding out that Johnny became an American anime seiyuu, that happened two years ago when I found out that he voiced Kaneda in the redub of Akira.

Joe Klemm

Spike Mcdougal
04-03-2003, 12:18 AM
This is the first time where Vash drinks and cant hold it

Perfect Cell
04-03-2003, 12:21 AM
Is it me or does the fake vash, sound alot like the voice actor in El Hazard? The bad guy and brother to one of the main characters? Hes reallygood there, and good here as well

Spike Mcdougal
04-03-2003, 12:25 AM
"i'm sorry!!!!!!!!"

There's my favorite from this episode

zmanjz
04-03-2003, 12:27 AM
I love this series...

Good news: Thursday night we get to see what Meryl and Milly can do.

I Love Milly's gun, but Meryl's no slouch either.

Bad News: We don't get to see the best of Vash until Monday Night


He'll draw his gun and Fire it for the first time in the series.


I LOVE THIS SHOW!!!!!

DianaGohan
04-03-2003, 12:28 AM
Trigun "Peace Maker" Episode Review

A lot of fun, drinking action added with a dash of sentimentality (You gotta feel sorry for a guy who creates gun but ends up killing his own family because of his craft.) equals one hell of an episode. Unfourtanley, two vomitting jokes and not as much humor as the other episodes had (outside the drinking) makes this episode get only a B+ as a grade.

livingfruitvirus
04-03-2003, 12:28 AM
so much beer and drunks and vomiting. Toonami would've had to excise this whole episode. hillarious nonetheless. especially the "guns" they used to drive fake Vash out of town.

i was hoping this ep would be uncut, but this picture (http://www.itty-bitties.com/elb/trigun3-1.jpg) made sure that wouldn't happen.

Midou Ban
04-03-2003, 12:32 AM
Trigun's off da hook yo'... Do Vash and Inuyasha shop at the same store or is wearing lots of red a style? Oh and I like this show so far. I thought yesterday's episode was great and today's was great and I hope this trend continues. I also hope it gets a little more serious later on too not that I don't like goofiness though.

JTurner954
04-03-2003, 12:32 AM
Wednesday's episode: Well, the humor is getting better and it was entertaining, but my grade for the show stays the same. The show isn't wowing me like previous anime partly because it's a western and I'm not into that genre (though it's safe to say this is the most I've liked a western show). I hope the show proves me wrong and IMproves. Meanwhile, I'm still getting a kick out of the Japanese Bob Dylan at the end.

Overall grade: B

Amano Ginji
04-03-2003, 12:34 AM
so much beer and drunks and vomiting. Toonami would've had to excise this whole episode. hillarious nonetheless. especially the "guns" they used to drive fake Vash out of town.

i was hoping this ep would be uncut, but this picture (http://www.itty-bitties.com/elb/trigun3-1.jpg) made sure that wouldn't happen.

ROFL......

Gruntling
04-03-2003, 12:39 AM
Here's my reviews for the first two episodes of Trigun. So far this show is pretty good. As a matter of fact I'm putting it on the top of my list!

[Scale to 10]

Trigun
April 1st
$$60,000,000,000 Man: 9.3

April 2nd
Truth of Mistake: 9.5

raykremer
04-03-2003, 12:44 AM
Is it me or does the fake vash, sound alot like the voice actor in El Hazard? The bad guy and brother to one of the main characters?
Jinnei? I thought so too.

It may seem like Meryl and Millie have the Kyone/Mihoshi thing going on, but it's nowhere near as extreme as it is in Tenchi. I suppose you could say Millie is like the OVA's Mihoshi rather than the TV Mihoshi, but I'm not sure I'd even go that far.

This is odd. I started my DVD in sync with the AS feed, but the TV reached the comerical about 17 seconds before the DVD did. So for act 2 I started the DVD up ahead of the AS feed, but the TV pulled back ahead of the DVD rather quickly. What the hell are they doing, cutting out half seconds in between scenes to save time?

Killtacular
04-03-2003, 12:50 AM
Perhaps time compression? Shrug.

livingfruitvirus
04-03-2003, 12:51 AM
Jinnei? I thought so too.

It may seem like Meryl and Millie have the Kyone/Mihoshi thing going on, but it's nowhere near as extreme as it is in Tenchi. I suppose you could say Millie is like the OVA's Mihoshi rather than the TV Mihoshi, but I'm not sure I'd even go that far.

This is odd. I started my DVD in sync with the AS feed, but the TV reached the comerical about 17 seconds before the DVD did. So for act 2 I started the DVD up ahead of the AS feed, but the TV pulled back ahead of the DVD rather quickly. What the hell are they doing, cutting out half seconds in between scenes to save time?

i ran mine the same way. they stayed in sync the whole way through.

raykremer
04-03-2003, 01:09 AM
Huh. Must be my PC then. In fact yeah, it's my PC. Never mind.

Sheamon
04-03-2003, 01:13 AM
As for the show as a whole, the man's voice was done quite well (name escapes me) for a guy you only see once.

It was Mr. Cliff, and his voice actor is Ivan Buckley, best known for Rob MacDougal in Outlaw Star and Jet's cop friend Bob in Cowboy Bebop. One of Animaze's best male actors if you ask me, although they rarely cast him in big roles :(

As for the episodes themselves, I thoroughly enjoyed last night's episode and tonight's was pretty good although the drunk annoyed me to death, causing me to rank it as the worst of the episodes so far. I'd rank them 2-1-3 for now. Vash is quite funny, as is Meryl's opinion of him.

skite
04-03-2003, 02:04 AM
millys voice is starting to sound better or im just getting use to it and vash's VA did a good job and seems kinda like the same jap. guy speaking in english he is doing good :)

TnAdct1
04-03-2003, 02:12 AM
I love this series...

Good news: Thursday night we get to see what Meryl and Milly can do.

I Love Milly's gun, but Meryl's no slouch either.

Bad News: We don't get to see the best of Vash until Monday Night


He'll draw his gun and Fire it for the first time in the series.


I LOVE THIS SHOW!!!!!

That's odd, I thought the best of Vash will happen tomorrow with his little dance on the way to the saloon, his worm-like crawl, and his first utterance of "LOVE AND PEACE!".

Joe Klemm

Spike Mcdougal
04-03-2003, 02:23 AM
It was Mr. Cliff, and his voice actor is Ivan Buckley, best known for Rob MacDougal in Outlaw Star and Jet's cop friend Bob in Cowboy Bebop. One of Animaze's best male actors if you ask me, although they rarely cast him in big roles :(

As for the episodes themselves, I thoroughly enjoyed last night's episode and tonight's was pretty good although the drunk annoyed me to death, causing me to rank it as the worst of the episodes so far. I'd rank them 2-1-3 for now. Vash is quite funny, as is Meryl's opinion of him.

Well as you mentioned he played Ron and was Jigen in Castle of Cagliostro

zmanjz
04-03-2003, 02:30 AM
That's odd, I thought the best of Vash will happen tomorrow with his little dance on the way to the saloon, his worm-like crawl, and his first utterance of "LOVE AND PEACE!".

Joe Klemm

Nope


I think it's cool to see just how good a gunman he is...

and

The ending of hardpuncher is just funnier

Not only is he chanting it, but those kids start too. (and giving the Peace Sign)

Arde
04-03-2003, 04:07 AM
I'm really enjoying this series more and more.
It's a good thing Adult Swim finally gets something new and good (Reign was only good for the first few eps or so then it got boring and stale).

PS: After seeing the Japanese Trigun, I'd have to say that English VA for Vash and Millie sounds almost the same as the Japanese VA, and I prefer the English VA for Merryl over the Japanese VA anyday.

Hades
04-03-2003, 07:52 AM
last night's ep was great, the funniest one so far. i haven't enjoied a series this much since Outlaw Star.

Chosen Raven
04-03-2003, 10:30 AM
Ahhhh, the pro-gun episode of Trigun. Reminds me why I love anime. No political correctness here!

Aberration
04-03-2003, 11:49 AM
This show keeps getting better with each episode so far. Hope it keeps up. My only possible complaint is that I don't care for the music, but that's just personal preference. Oh, and the next episode previews. It's kinda jarring to hear Vash being so somber and philosophical, although I suppose it'll make sense later. And the accompanying video shows some major spoilers too, I think someone mentioned that already.

BTW, did any Bebop fans grin at what Vash did at the end of this last episode? :p

Infinity Blade
04-03-2003, 01:34 PM
BTW, did any Bebop fans grin at what Vash did at the end of this last episode? :p

Heh, heh... "Bang, bang." :p

...was it just me, or did the bartender woman remind anyone else of that one woman that ran that store from Spike's past who's name escapes me? Y'know, the one in "Ballad of Fallen Angels" and "Real Folk Blues Part 2"? o.O; Maybe it's just my memory being foggy from seeing the episode so late...

Amano Ginji
04-03-2003, 02:14 PM
...was it just me, or did the bartender woman remind anyone else of that one woman that ran that store from Spike's past who's name escapes me? Y'know, the one in "Ballad of Fallen Angels" and "Real Folk Blues Part 2"? o.O; Maybe it's just my memory being foggy from seeing the episode so late...

Annie? err....Anastasia?

Yeah, it did remind me of her....

Shnay
04-03-2003, 02:15 PM
Do Vash and Inuyasha shop at the same store or is wearing lots of red a style?

Actually, I read somewhere that in Japanese stories, the heros are often clad in red. A sort of cultural symbol, I guess.

I kinda liked Tuesday's episode, "Truth of Mistake." I'm still not really into some of the goofier comedic moments, but I found it enjoyable overall. I really liked Millie's extreme naivety, and Vash's little-boy pout at the end, "I don't wanna get arrested..."

The story wasn't too exciting, but had some good moments. I liked when the undercover woman got up from the table out of disgust; that was pretty well done. I also liked Meryl's questioning of whether he is or isn't actually Vash. However, I hope this questioning doesn't go on too long, as it could get old quick.

I didn't catch Wednesday's episode, so I can't judge that one.

I'll keep watching, and hoping I get to like it a bit more.

Artemis
04-03-2003, 02:22 PM
I always enjoyed that episode. If Trigun went to Toonami, the entire episode would've ended up on the cutting room floor. There's no way "tea" could cover that up.

As for Vash wearing red...that actually DOES get explained later in the series so watch out for it.

Michael
04-03-2003, 02:24 PM
soo funny when we was drunk heh

StrangerAtaru
04-03-2003, 02:31 PM
Actually, partially because of a certain AMV ("The Beer Song" one), this is one of my more favorite episodes of the show. I just like the tragic nature of the gunmaker, who ends up drunk all the time just because he doesn't want to face up to the problems he caused. The ending reminded me a bit of "High Noon", but I guess it was supposed to. And of course, it is always funny watching Vash drunk!

Kuroneko Watch: One walked along when Meryl and Milly were in the mayor's office and another, um, meowed at the moon.

JetMaster5
04-03-2003, 04:35 PM
Only 7 hours and 20 minutes until the next episode.

Can't wait much longer.

Vash the Stampede.....why can't Merryl see that it's him?! Sometimes I think Mille should be in charge instead of Merryl.

Chuquita
04-03-2003, 05:06 PM
Ahh, what a great show! *sigh* Looks like I'll be depribing myself of another hour of sleep once again. Oh well :D This show is definately worth it. Vash is so funny when he's drunk. And Milly does think its him :) Can't wait for tonights! Everyone was right about saying how good this show is!

Steven C
04-03-2003, 06:46 PM
What do all these acronyms mean?????
OP
HT
AS
and any others I've missed.

Anyways, Its cool to see Trigun on TV. I've had the whole series on DVD since it first came out. This is my favorite anime of all time!!!!

Wait till you get you guys get to the middle of the series....WOW!!

David Lucas
04-03-2003, 06:48 PM
What do all these acronyms mean?????
OP
HT
AS
and any others I've missed.

Anyways, Its cool to see Trigun on TV. I've had the whole series on DVD since it first came out. This is my favorite anime of all time!!!!

Wait till you get you guys get to the middle of the series....WOW!!

OP = opening theme song
HT = The name of Trigun's opening song
AS = Adult Swim (unless it's got another one, Trigun related)

Obi
04-03-2003, 08:39 PM
*bashes head on wall*

Looks like I'll have to wait for reruns to see these episodes. My sister wanted to tape something on Tuesday and now the VCR's not working, so I missed last night's episode and I'm going to miss tonight's episode. Probably .hack//SIGN on Saturday too, if my dad's friend doesn't figure out how to fix the thing...

CURSE YOU DIRECTV!!!

The Landstander
04-03-2003, 09:45 PM
im still giving this show a chance...Tuesday's episode was pretty good, and Wednesday's was alright. i dont like when Vash gets too cartoony on this show (some of the facial expressions are just too stupid), and that one girl is annoylingly dumb.

however, Vash does get a good amount of funny lines. and im interested in how Vash is this big outlaw in everyone's mind, yet has been a really good guy so far (which im pretty sure is exactly what im supposed to be interested in at this point). ill keep watching it.

skite
04-03-2003, 10:19 PM
Actually, I read somewhere that in Japanese stories, the heros are often clad in red. A sort of cultural symbol, I guess.
vash wears red because (dont read the spoiler if u dont want to hear a lot about the story it will ruin a lot)
rem (one of the ppl who found vash and knives) was one of the ppl taking the humans to a new planet she loved red roses and vash said he loved her but she was like to old for him then because he only looked 13 then. then knives set up a plot to kill all the humans and destroy the ships the ships were about to blow up because of knives, they didnt know it was his fault yet well actually rem was the only one left not frozen (they froze the humans for the move to a new planet) or dead (knives killed or framed (that got killed or frozen in one case) the rest of the crew members) knives was going to let rem live because vash was fond of her she put vash and knives in an escape pod to save them while she would try to save the ships while in the escape pod the ship rem was on blew up but she did manage to save some ships that were landed of the new planet vash was screamed and cried because rem died then he finds out it was knives who killed all the crew members and cause rem to die... thats enough for now lets just say he wears red as in memory of rem because she loved red roses or just his clothes were red because the ppl in the sky ship where they live made his clothes but i think he chose the color

Iron Side
04-03-2003, 10:33 PM
I wanna know where i can get some of Vash's gear like his trenchcoat

skite
04-03-2003, 10:39 PM
I wanna know where i can get some of Vash's gear like his trenchcoat
u can buy glasses like his on ebay but i havent seen any trenchcoats

zmanjz
04-03-2003, 10:58 PM
I wanna know where i can get some of Vash's gear like his trenchcoat

My little Bro wants the same thing.

Weatherman
04-04-2003, 12:09 AM
Darn it, they destroyed one of the more suspensful moments in the show! He was holding the gun in her mouth for a few secconds before he was stopped. That edit makes no sense since they showed Karou getting slapped on Toonami earlier. This is confusing. :confused:

livingfruitvirus
04-04-2003, 12:12 AM
Darn it, they destroyed one of the more suspensful moments in the show! He was holding the gun in her mouth for a few secconds before he was stopped. That edit makes no sense since they showed Karou getting slapped on Toonami earlier. This is confusing. :confused:

i guess that stuff happens when Williams Street edits your show

Black Hole Brew
04-04-2003, 12:13 AM
Darn it, they destroyed one of the more suspensful moments in the show! He was holding the gun in her mouth for a few secconds before he was stopped. That edit makes no sense since they showed Karou getting slapped on Toonami earlier. This is confusing. :confused:

wait a 'sec. you're saying someone getting slapped is the same thing as seeing somone put a gun in another person's mouth?

Spike Mcdougal
04-04-2003, 12:23 AM
Love And Peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

zmanjz
04-04-2003, 12:24 AM
Sweet, thats why she's

"Derringer" Meryl Stryfe

I love that, she throws open her cloak and shows like 40 derringers.

Combine that with Milly using her kinetic stungun

and Vash's "Love and Peace"...

and this is a decent episode.


(The next one is one of my favorites though.)

David Lucas
04-04-2003, 12:25 AM
Hey!! It's the doctor from Outlaw Star!! Now he's an evil sheriff, I love this guy's voice! :-d

LOVE AND PEACE!!!! Yay!! Tomorrow we get the REAL love and peace line, not to mention one of the best episodes of the series. For everyone that's been hangin on because they know something cool is comin around the corner, tomorrow is that episode.....in a way.....

".....please don't make me shoot you."

RedBoot
04-04-2003, 12:27 AM
I love Kuroneko in this one...

Anyhoo, Meryl showing off her arsenal is one of my favorite moments in the series...it was hilarious the first time I saw it.

Vash is great here too...between his actions in the bar, and the amount of beatings he received from the gunmen...and the debut of "Love and Peace," of course.

DianaGohan
04-04-2003, 12:30 AM
Trigun "Love and Peace" Episode Review

Not exactly the best episode, but there were some good moments that made for a good deal of enjoyment (Vash getting beat up by those gangesters in the bar, the former rich "Grim Reaper" guy doing anything to help his daughter Stephanine, the crazy gangstas, Meryl and Minnie finally doing something, Vash's love and peace comment told the end ((espically since I saw a kid doing it earlier today)) and... that's it) but there were a few errors that kind of annoyed me (why didn't Vash try to do anything to the gangsters instead of just being willingly tied up? We all knew he could of escaped it at any time, like when he did so do save Stephanine. Also, why haven't Milly or Meryl used their guns beforehand, where there lives were being threathened and could have been killed? Why start using them know instead of before hand?) and it was kind dry at a few certain points (The conversations between the rich guy and the mayor mainly) but enjoyable, nontheless. I would give it a B overall.

Arde
04-04-2003, 12:41 AM
Was it just me or did the animation quality suddenly dropped down a lot of notches along with the rest of the production quality?
The script and dialogue wasn't so good today, humour was still apparent but not as funny, and the action was just un-exciting and boring. The worst offender is still the animation quality, though...
Certainly a drop in quality compared to the previous eps.

Cyporiean
04-04-2003, 12:44 AM
u can buy glasses like his on ebay but i havent seen any trenchcoats


most of the ones on Ebay are very poorly made bootlegs..

Animaxis.com used to carry the offical ones for both Vash and Wolfwood, not sure if that still do..

I've got Vash's, they're very nice ^^ comes with a metal case to hold em too..

zmanjz
04-04-2003, 12:53 AM
Was it just me or did the animation quality suddenly dropped down a lot of notches along with the rest of the production quality?
The script and dialogue wasn't so good today, humour was still apparent but not as funny, and the action was just un-exciting and boring. The worst offender is still the animation quality, though...
Certainly a drop in quality compared to the previous eps.

I've actually noticed that the company that does the animation:

Madhouse

Uses alterations of animation quality as part of their system of convention and expression.

The best example of this can be seen in their series: Jubei Chan.

That is where you see that their use of change in animation quality becomes less a subconcious effect, and more of an overt one.

(the Z-MAN is a Madhouse Animation Groupie.)

skite
04-04-2003, 01:21 AM
most of the ones on Ebay are very poorly made bootlegs..

Animaxis.com used to carry the offical ones for both Vash and Wolfwood, not sure if that still do..

I've got Vash's, they're very nice ^^ comes with a metal case to hold em too..
ya ive seen the bootlegs if ur going to buy one on ebay look for one that has the glasses with a glasses case that says trigun on it im pretty sure those arent bootlegs

JTurner954
04-04-2003, 01:36 AM
Now I see why people kept saying "Love and Peace" when Vash was in The Delaney Poll.

Thursday's episode: Well, I was prepared to say the same comment about how this show still isn't wowing me but then the end segment occured with the guns in the woman's coat and the "love and peace" comment. Now it looks like the show is changing into something I might like. Someone told me that there's a cat that appears in the episodes (for no reason I think) and sure enough I saw the cat (and it was funny). The story itself was entertaining, but just ok. Best thing about the episode was Vash's antics.

And as a bonus: I get to hear Norman's voice and I realized that Dorothy is one of the Insurance women (she made a cameo in Cowboy Bebop as well). Gee, I've got to start working on my current signature and soon.

Overall grade: B/B+

Rabi~en~Rose
04-04-2003, 02:10 AM
Darn it, they destroyed one of the more suspensful moments in the show! He was holding the gun in her mouth for a few secconds before he was stopped. That edit makes no sense since they showed Karou getting slapped on Toonami earlier. This is confusing. :confused:

why would they go and edit out something like that? this is ADULT swim is it not?

So far this show doesn't seem very adult at all and edits like that don't help. just put it on Toonami already. http://members.aol.com/kimminakochan/chicken.gif

David Lucas
04-04-2003, 02:50 AM
Who knows why they felt to censor it? What's done is done, and I don't remember too many other scenes along these lines throughout the rest of the series that might be cut.

I mean, Trigun IS a fairly violent show. The thing is, although noone is safe in this series (children get shot in the head, young girls are murdered, entire cities are wiped out with countless kids) when it comes to the level of violence in the deaths, they all usually are fairly PG-13. Only scene I could see being edited a lil bit is when that Neon guy is putting the gun in what's his names face/mouth on that train.

I don't think I could wear that trenchcoat though ^_^, the glasses I'd buy if they could fit on my enormous head. I personally want Spike Speigel's outfit....err.....Mr. Nicholas D. Wolfwood's outfit.

I'm watchin a lot of the episodes again, and is it just me or does
Brad, the guy on the ship above the planet, look a LOT like a beefed up older version of Kuwabara from Yu Yu Hakusho?

It's a shame they don't have Adult Swim on Friday nights, I want everyone to see my favorite scene RIGHT NOW. Hehe.

LOVE AND PEACE!!! LOVE AND PEACE!! LOVE AND PEACE!!

Nabuca
04-04-2003, 09:23 AM
Guns in mouths is taboo on basically any basic cable network. It didnt have to be edited out but people really shouldnt be complaining about something so minor. It pisses me off when anything unecessary gets editing out of one of my favorite shows, especially Trigun but whats done is done. If WS keeps on treating Trigun with the same standards they have been showing, edit-list mongers should have a very easy time. The gun-in-mouth comes back in a few episodes when Neon sticks his gun up to Kait's teeth.

Nabuca
04-04-2003, 09:27 AM
why would they go and edit out something like that? this is ADULT swim is it not?

So far this show doesn't seem very adult at all and edits like that don't help. just put it on Toonami already. http://members.aol.com/kimminakochan/chicken.gif
Wait till episode 12 and then say that. Trigun belongs on Adult Swim. Hell, Kenshin doesnt even belong on Toonami, especially seeing the insane edit lists that Kyle Pope has been compiling the last few episodes and the Kyoto Butchering to come.

raykremer
04-04-2003, 12:22 PM
I just love the way Vash wanders into the bar leaving you wondering if he knew all along what was going on or if it was just a coincedence.

Next up: the Nebraska family. Well,
half of them anyway.

Rabi~en~Rose
04-04-2003, 12:34 PM
Wait till episode 12 and then say that. Trigun belongs on Adult Swim. Hell, Kenshin doesnt even belong on Toonami, especially seeing the insane edit lists that Kyle Pope has been compiling the last few episodes and the Kyoto Butchering to come.

Kenshins not a very good show though. :yawn:

Trigun could be on Toonami probably pretty easily. For some reason it's reminding me of Outlaw Star. Just cut out the cursing and some of the blood ala Kenshin and it would most likely fit on Toonami just as well as OS did. http://members.aol.com/kimminakochan/chicken.gif

sedorna
04-04-2003, 12:57 PM
Kenshins not a very good show though. :yawn:

Trigun could be on Toonami probably pretty easily. For some reason it's reminding me of Outlaw Star. Just cut out the cursing and some of the blood ala Kenshin and it would most likely fit on Toonami just as well as OS did. http://members.aol.com/kimminakochan/chicken.gif

Well, it gets a lot darker and more violent. Plus, there are too many guns for it to be on Toonami.

Nabuca
04-04-2003, 01:01 PM
Kenshins not a very good show though. :yawn:

Trigun could be on Toonami probably pretty easily. For some reason it's reminding me of Outlaw Star. Just cut out the cursing and some of the blood ala Kenshin and it would most likely fit on Toonami just as well as OS did. http://members.aol.com/kimminakochan/chicken.gif
No, just no. It would be butchered worst than OS, especially once Legato shows up, entire scenes would have to be scrapped. The first and second half of Trigun are like a ying and yang, one side comedy with bits of drama, the other side drama with bits of comedy. Outlaw Star on Toonami was a sin, another show that was treated terribliy and did not belong on the block. Trigun was pitched to Toonami in 2000 and not picked up for a reason, it belongs on Adult Swim. See the entire series first, please. I love Trigun, it will be a cold day in hell when its on Toonami :)

ohmrbill
04-04-2003, 01:36 PM
Trigun was pitched to Toonami in 2000 and not picked up for a reason, it belongs on Adult Swim.

And that reason they stated was, "excessive use of guns." That's it.

Michael
04-04-2003, 02:01 PM
funny epsiode. LOVE AND PEAVE :cool:

Sora Takenouchi
04-04-2003, 02:24 PM
funny epsiode. LOVE AND PEAVE :cool:

Look, I know that was a typo and everything, but I gotta sig that! ^_^

Nabuca
04-04-2003, 02:37 PM
Ah, on Monday comes episode 5, the episode where Vash first shoots his gun (the first time that you see it actually). So many great moments in this episode. Its one of many, many awesome episodes to come.

Zechs
04-04-2003, 03:16 PM
Trigun is fine where it is now. If put on toonami it would be turned into kiddie trash and I'm quite sure no one wants to see that.

DarkMaster
04-04-2003, 03:35 PM
and we all wonder why? :cool:

NICK NEWS SPECIAL EDITION: Kids and Guns addresses ignorance, a key factor that leads to gun violence, whether intentional or not. Viewers will hear stories from everyday kids and their families and learn how guns have caused tragedy in their personal lives.

Arxane
04-04-2003, 03:37 PM
I love Trigun, it will be a cold day in hell when its on Toonami :)

Word of warning: don't say that, or it just might come true. People said it about "Evangelion", and it actually happened. :p

zmanjz
04-04-2003, 05:35 PM
and we all wonder why? :cool:

NICK NEWS SPECIAL EDITION: Kids and Guns addresses ignorance, a key factor that leads to gun violence, whether intentional or not. Viewers will hear stories from everyday kids and their families and learn how guns have caused tragedy in their personal lives.

Weird. I'm from that last generation (1980) that still believes Guns are cool.

I love guns. When I acquire $11,000 of extra money I plan on buying an MP5K-PDW

I also plan on buying Barrett .50 Cal sniper Rifle.

Why? Because I never outgrew the idea that guns are cool.

You can't hunt with these. But they're just fun to shoot.

As for Vash's Revolver, being a break-breech revolver makes the gun structurally unsound. Although based on a civil-war era design, it is more advanced by having the barrel fire from the lowest revolver chamber, thereby placing more stress on the hinge-point than on the upper clip. However, the gun is still inherently unsafe when compared to current revolvers...


of course, there's more to vash's gun than that.

Will Sturnick
04-04-2003, 10:38 PM
I missed episode 4 becuase of a black-out caused by an ice-storm that is currently tormenting Rochester (the home of weird weather). So I'll just catch it's re-airing in mid-May.

- 600, wow.

Rabi~en~Rose
04-05-2003, 12:17 AM
They could just change the shows name to Triblaster and redub all uses of the word gun as blaster.

Then cut out whatever little swearing there is as they are now and boom. Toonami. http://members.aol.com/kimminakochan/chicken.gif

Unlike Crapenshin I'm giving Triblaster a full chance but so far neither the comedy nor the action is particulary adult. Why people are comparing this to Bebop I'll never know.

SirLemming
04-05-2003, 12:46 AM
They could just change the shows name to Triblaster and redub all uses of the word gun as blaster.

Then cut out whatever little swearing there is as they are now and boom. Toonami. http://members.aol.com/kimminakochan/chicken.gif

Unlike Crapenshin I'm giving Triblaster a full chance but so far neither the comedy nor the action is particulary adult. Why people are comparing this to Bebop I'll never know.


I'm sorry, but "Crapenshin" is one of the stupidest insults ever... I'm guessing you didn't spend an extremely long time thinking that up.

But let's leave Kenshin out of this. Do you realize that if Trigun was on Toonami they'd pretty much have to omit the third episode completely? I mean, the ENTIRE thing was about alcohol. Generally, from only the first 4 episodes, there's enough gunplay, perversion, and general "maturity" here to warrant a spot on Adult Swim. Personally, I think Yu Yu Hakusho still belongs on Adult Swim, especially after what they had to do today (they had to remove an entire transvestite subplot, which made for many awkward, not-quite-explainable comments). Adults appreciate uncensored anime; kids don't.

I see the Cowboy Bebop comparison, if only stylistically. Particularly in scenes where everything is getting shot to pieces, the art style is very similar.

This show is actually reminding me of Lupin III a little bit -- especially the second episode, which had a Lupin-esque one-time villain. Then episode 3 was a bit more Bebop-esque, totally character-driven.

Midou Ban
04-05-2003, 01:15 AM
They could just change the shows name to Triblaster and redub all uses of the word gun as blaster.

Then cut out whatever little swearing there is as they are now and boom. Toonami. http://members.aol.com/kimminakochan/chicken.gif

Unlike Crapenshin I'm giving Triblaster a full chance but so far neither the comedy nor the action is particulary adult. Why people are comparing this to Bebop I'll never know.'

Cukoo Cukoo....I think you should give kenshin another chance maybe watch the Kyoto arc see if you change your mind or something

G1Ravage
04-05-2003, 06:15 AM
Guns in mouths is taboo on basically any basic cable network. It didnt have to be edited out but people really shouldnt be complaining about something so minor. It pisses me off when anything unecessary gets editing out of one of my favorite shows, especially Trigun but whats done is done. If WS keeps on treating Trigun with the same standards they have been showing, edit-list mongers should have a very easy time. The gun-in-mouth comes back in a few episodes when Neon sticks his gun up to Kait's teeth.

Remember in "Waltz for Venus" when Faye busts into the room with the two guys in bed? Faye stuck her gun into that guy's mouth. (The one that wasn't turned into a pillow.:p)

zmanjz
04-05-2003, 06:24 AM
Remember in "Waltz for Venus" when Faye busts into the room with the two guys in bed? Faye stuck her gun into that guy's mouth. (The one that wasn't turned into a pillow.:p)

Maybe they felt that they weren't editing enough, and just decided to edit something.

Nabuca
04-05-2003, 10:09 AM
They could just change the shows name to Triblaster and redub all uses of the word gun as blaster.

Then cut out whatever little swearing there is as they are now and boom. Toonami. http://members.aol.com/kimminakochan/chicken.gif

Unlike Crapenshin I'm giving Triblaster a full chance but so far neither the comedy nor the action is particulary adult. Why people are comparing this to Bebop I'll never know.
Wow you are officially my least favorite person on the board now. While were at it, lets put Hellsing on Toonami, and Beserk, they can call it He-Man The Next Generation and digitally paint huge pecks and gay short shorts on everyone.

Nabuca
04-05-2003, 10:22 AM
Then cut out whatever little swearing there is as they are now and boom. Toonami.
And cut out the prosititues in Lost July, cut out when Legato makes a person plunge his hand into his chest, gets a person to shoot themself in the head, makes an entire gang shoot each other to death, when Wolfwood kills a child, when Vash shoots Legato point blank in the skull and kills him there is about 100 more things I could mention. It belongs on AS.

StrangerAtaru
04-05-2003, 12:33 PM
Well I should have done this Friday considering I watched the episode then, but I sort of forgot. Anyway, for some reason this episode is a tad inconsistant on its usage of drama. While I did somewhat like the whole situation of the guy holding the daughter hostage to get back on the former mayor and sherrif, some of the drama did get a tad overmelodramatic. But the comedy....I almost forgot the weird stuff Vash pulls in this episode! (both his dance sequence and his worm squirm) But the ending was what made the whole episode classic, with the first appearance of "Derringer Meryl" and "Stungun Milly", and of course....

"Now say it: The world is made of....The world is made of....THE WORLD IS MADE OF....LOVE AND PEACE!!!!!" (freeze-frame on Vash's peace sign)

Kuroneko Watch: When Vash and that girl fell down behind the bar, a Kuroneko jumped up and ran off.

Cyber E.
04-05-2003, 01:26 PM
Say w00t! Trigun is finally here, and here are my [late] reviews/thoughts/something!

The $$60,000,000,000 Man
Wow, this was the bomb! The begining was great but then when Vash had the flashback it was just ROFL. The mix of action, adventure and comedy just bleneded so well that I now know why this series is so good. A+++

Truth of Mistake
This was a good episode, the begining made you think it was Vash when you find out it was the female sheriff. The plot really did twist near the end and it was cool to see Vash dodge dos dag nabbed bullets. Another great episode. A+

Peace Maker
No review available. A-

Love and Peace
This was an odd episode, very different from the others. It focused alot more on the serious issues and yet still had the comedy. The minor characters in this episode each had something going for them and done really well. A

Not much reviewing this week.
-aJb

Chosen Raven
04-05-2003, 06:38 PM
Did anyone notice the gun-to-face edit of ep. 4? What makes this edit unique is that they actually showed the scene in the AS intro. It's where Vash first walks into the saloon. Three guys quickly put their guns to Vash's head. Why they put it in the intro, but edited the guns in the show itself is anyones guess.

Weird. I'm from that last generation (1980) that still believes Guns are cool. I love guns. When I acquire $11,000 of extra money I plan on buying an MP5K-PDW. I also plan on buying Barrett .50 Cal sniper Rifle. Why? Because I never outgrew the idea that guns are cool. You can't hunt with these. But they're just fun to shoot.

Rock on, Zmanjz....rock on. :cool:

Spike Mcdougal
04-05-2003, 06:52 PM
TRIBLASTER!?!?

That's.......that's just wrong ok it's wrong.



I'm glad to see that the show has gotten mostly good feedback but there is one person on this board that I'd like to hear judgment from.

*Weilding a mallet*

JohnCrichton!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Step forward

StrangerAtaru
04-05-2003, 09:35 PM
Hey, better Triblaster than "Hecksing" anyday.

Well not really, but I wonder....since someone did try and make an excuse of what would happen in a Hecksing series, did anyone do the same thing for Triblaster? (nah, we probably just made that one up)

Rabi~en~Rose
04-05-2003, 09:49 PM
TRIBLASTER!?!?

That's.......that's just wrong ok it's wrong.

hehe!

I was wandering if I'd traumatized anyone with that idea! http://members.aol.com/kimminakochan/chicken.gif

Millions Knives
04-05-2003, 09:53 PM
Did anyone notice the gun-to-face edit of ep. 4? What makes this edit unique is that they actually showed the scene in the AS intro. It's where Vash first walks into the saloon. Three guys quickly put their guns to Vash's head. Why they put it in the intro, but edited the guns in the show itself is anyones guess.

That is strange. Well looking at the edits, the gun-to-face and gun-to-mouth edits in Love and Peace, I think it's safe to say that we're not actually going to see

Legato getting a bullet in the head. We'll most likely just hear it. :(

Mugen
04-05-2003, 10:05 PM
Unlike Crapenshin I'm giving Triblaster a full chance but so far neither the comedy nor the action is particulary adult. Why people are comparing this to Bebop I'll never know.

You've only seen the first five episodes of Kenshin, and you call it crap? Why don't you give it a chance and go beyond five episodes to see if you like it or not?

Nabuca
04-06-2003, 12:21 AM
That is strange. Well looking at the edits, the gun-to-face and gun-to-mouth edits in Love and Peace, I think it's safe to say that we're not actually going to see

Legato getting a bullet in the head. We'll most likely just hear it. :(
The scene shows him getting shot from far away, and he drops to the ground, it shouldnt, and better not get cut.

JetMaster5
04-07-2003, 04:42 PM
You've only seen the first five episodes of Kenshin, and you call it crap? Why don't you give it a chance and go beyond five episodes to see if you like it or not?

Give Rose a break. If she doesn't want to watch it because she finds it boring, then that's up to her. Normally, that's what I'd do too.

But that show is too entertaining for me to stop watching. :)