Will Bush Last a Second Term?

[JohnCrichton]

I think he will. And not becaue I want him to. I haven't been so unhappy about world decisions since he stepped into office.

I've heard nothing but complaining and groaning Americans since he's been in office.

BUT!

As far as I've seen he's the best we got. Admitted I don't know much about the background or stances of the democratic candidates, but when I've tuned in to hear some of these schlubs talk, there's not a charismatic, strong willed one among any of them.

So, to the knowledgeable.... is there one who could take on Bush and turn this country around or shall his reign go on for another term?

[Parallax]

Yeah, Bush isn't the best (or the smartest :p), but right now he seems to be the best candidate. So, yeah I think he'll serve another term.

[Reed Richards]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

you guys actually BELIEVE what you're saying?!?

clearly you dont pay nearly enough attention to the democratic field-- its loaded with talent and charisma

now if Wesley Clark gets into the picture, its bye bye bushie for sure

[JohnCrichton]

Originally posted by Reed Richards
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

you guys actually BELIEVE what you're saying?!?

clearly you dont pay nearly enough attention to the democratic field-- its loaded with talent and charisma

now if Wesley Clark gets into the picture, its bye bye bushie for sure

I hope you're right Reed.

Wesley Clark you say?

Anyway, again..... I hope you're right.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

We'll see a few months from now. Most Joe Americans don't care who's president as long as it doesn't interfere with their lifestyles too much. The Western world is generally a very "what have you done for me lately" attitude.

Personally, I'd vote for a chimp before I vote for him.

[Aximlli]

Originally posted by Leaping Larry Jojo
Personally, I'd vote for a chimp before I vote for him.
You speak as if there's a difference between the two. :p


-Aximlli-

[Jade_GL]

He certainly won't do well in Maine. Then again, his father couldn't carry this state, and neither did he son. Of course, in 1996, Perot carried the state of Maine.... But that's just because we're so darn independent. :D

Anyway, enough of that. I don't think he will personally. Of all the people I know that liked him during the 2000 campaign, only a few still stand up by him. I know others who now are convinced that a trained ape would be better.

I think he has to win the war and improve the economy, or at least show that his moves are doing so. (He can't do everything, there are other branches of Government of course....)

But I think that a lot of people I know are fed up with his inability to speak, his constant talk about war and only war, his tax plans that don't help the people I live with (middle class and lower middle class workers just trying to get by in the world).

Soooooo, no I don't think he will get a second term. At least I know a bunch of people that won't be voting for him. And his support has only gone down over the past year or so. That's worrisome, you want your ratings to stay the same or go up, not go down steadily.

Plus, I think the Presidential candidates for the Dems are good and can certainly compete with Bush, and beat him in the end I think. Especially if the war drags on, the economy stays in the pooper, etc.

[Disco Pete]

Originally posted by Leaping Larry Jojo
Personally, I'd vote for a chimp before I vote for him.

VOTE FOR BONZO THE CHIMP IN 2004!

[jeffrey 228]

I wanted to Have Al Gore to win this one, Since Bush has gotten rough and that France has totaly gone against us for doing so with the War.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Originally posted by jeffrey 228
I wanted to Have Al Gore to win this one, Since Bush has gotten rough and that France has totaly gone against us for doing so with the War.

Al Gore lacks charisma, but at least he had a discernable economic plan he was working towards, if you ever managed to stay awake during his speeches.

Speaking of which, nobody would mess with Gore, since his ability to put crowds to sleep while managing to sound like a nerd would undoubtedly strike fear in the hearts of America's adversaries. ;)

[Outlander00]

Considering none of the prospective Democratic are very inspring at this point... I would have to say, unfortunately, that Bush would win again unless someone does something spectacular to unsurp the Republicans.

[Matt Hazuda]

I'm gonna say Bush won't win the election if the war is over in Iraq(conclusively this time) and or economy still sucks. It's his dad's curse, and as they say "like father, like son." No one thought Clinton would win because Bush I was riding on the war success wave, but look what happened at him. The dems just need to find one definate candidate to put up against him(doesn't seem likely at this point), and I think Ralph "The Ruiner" Nader will also play some sort of role in election '04, be it as a 3rd party candidate again, or more sanely, supporting the dems like he should have last time.

[Cogliostro]

Originally posted by Leaping Larry Jojo
Al Gore lacks charisma, but at least he had a discernable economic plan he was working towards, if you ever managed to stay awake during his speeches.

Speaking of which, nobody would mess with Gore, since his ability to put crowds to sleep while managing to sound like a nerd would undoubtedly strike fear in the hearts of America's adversaries. ;)

I have to say I don't find this to be true, Gore came to my town while running for President and had plenty of charisma, he didn't jump around or anything but he certainly wasn't boring. Gore knew what to do and how to do it and how to say it correctly and won the people's votes but the electoral college caused him not to win. It seems to me a few people poked fun at him and this "boring guy" theme got stuck to him. I didn't see Bush do anything more chrasmatic then Gore expcept Bush walked around, oh wait he walked around he's got my vote :rolleyes: Clinton left us with lots of extra money and was running things pretty smoothly what happend when Bush got in? We are now millions in debt and his plan to fix the economy? Go to war! I'm sorry I would have voted for Gore if I was old enough when he ran for President over Bush in a heart beat.

With that said I will be able to vote in this next election and am 99.99% sure I won't be voting for Bush. Then again what's the point of voting if it's the electoral college that chooses the President and not the citizens of the U.S.

Pretzel anyone :p

[JohnCrichton]

What's the cost of not going to war tho?

Won't people continue to suffer under Saddam's rule in Iraq?

[Alaskanbullworm]

If I could vote, I'd definately vote for Bush. I saw some of the Dem contendents but I still stick with Bush. He knows what he's doing. You also have to remember that the US is split up about going to war (1/2 want the other don't). If Bush goes to war, gets it over with quickly, and starts working on the economy, he'll be a shoe in.


So for the 2004 election, it's very unpredictable (but I'll start right now by saying GO BUSH!!!)

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Originally posted by JohnCrichton
What's the cost of not going to war tho?

Won't people continue to suffer under Saddam's rule in Iraq?

Hrm. Well, if you want an answer to that, obviously you haven't read the 10000 posts from anti-war guys in the OTHER threads! Maybe you MEANT to say that you weren't satisfied with the previous answers to this question. :p

(Really, though, that's like asking for the 10000000th time on this board, "Should we go to war or not?" It's a question that has been asked, answered, analyzed, debated and mutilated to death around here ;) )

[wonderfly]

As a registered Democrat, (who considers himself an independent) and a strong supporter of Bush on Foreign policy, I don't know who I'll be voting for yet.

1.I'd probably vote for Joe Lieberman in the final election, but I doubt he'll make it through the primaries, (he could very well be cut down by the liberal base of the Democratic party).

2.John Kerry reeks of "career politician".

3.Howard Dean is waaayy to liberal for my tastes.

4.Dick Gephart: maybe. But he'd have to work for it.

5. Al Sharpton. Heh. Not likely.

6. John Edwards reeks of "career politician" and ambulance chaser.

Did I miss anyone? I think we'll just have to see what the next few months hold.

[Zechs]

Does hell have ice water? With the way bush is pissing off the public I dbout that the will serve a second term. But you never know we'll just have to wait and see.

[EinBebop]

It's definitely far too early to say that, but I think a lot of people underestimate the number of people supporting Bush, simply because the people opposing him tend to be so loud.

I have a few issues with Bush, the biggest two being his educational policy and the fact that he spends so much money (even war aside) that you'd think he's a Democrat. But I like him because he stands for what he believes in; he's not a wishy-washy guy changing his beliefs with every opinion poll that comes out.

The American system of democracy is based on the belief that the public isn't always right, and a President who agrees with the majority of Americans all the time is NOT a good President.

[EinBebop]

Originally posted by Zechs
Does hell have ice water? With the way bush is pissing off the public I dbout that the will serve a second term. But you never know we'll just have to wait and see. Approval of Bush as of mid-February was at 58% according to the Gallup polls.

[randomguy]

There was a time (8 months or so post 9/11) that I would have figured him a shoe-in for a second term. But that's changing pretty quickly now. He's still approved by a majority of the country, but that number is declining. His economic policy has been dissapointing to many, the handling of Iran and North Korea is, so far, slipshod at best, and the anti-Bushites are MUCH louder. I think there's a good chance that he could lose in '04. I doubt I'll end up voting for him. I'm open-minded; it could happen, but I doubt it.

I don't think election '04 hinges on Iraq alone, though. If we suffer another terrorist attack or if the economy doesn't shape up, those issues could be just as problematic. You would think domestic matters would influence votes more.

[Pilmedium]

I do not expect Bush to last for a second term. It was a very close election last time, and a few of the people who supported him then do not anymore. That might be the difference.

[Zach Logan]

Originally posted by Pilmedium
I do not expect Bush to last for a second term. It was a very close election last time, and a few of the people who supported him then do not anymore. That might be the difference.

Well if he runs against unpopular people he may last, but otherwise, NO way.

[The Guard]

I'm no expert, nor will I pretend to be. So I represent the American people well, I think. Whoever said that the attitude "what have you done for me lately" is how most people think, you're right. Let's see...Bush promised to improve the educational system. Has he done so? He made worldwide promises to rid the world of terrorism and bring the ones responsible to justice. Has he done so? The economy in general is not in a good state. Now there's the war situation, and the trouble with North Korea. He'd best hope they find massive amounts of weapons of mass destruction, and that American casualties are very low. What else...he's pissed off half our allies...I don't see him serving a second term.

[Brainatra]

A year ago, I would've said "no way", but given the utter patheticness of the Democrats of late (speaking as someone who votes Democratic)/Bush's approval ratings, I'll say "who know"...

-B.

[SlyBoy]

Heck no! Not with the way he's been treating us! Go Democrats in 2004! :bosko:

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