Can/Should Sealab 2021 Be Saved??

[PluribusFinn]

i've seen this topic spring up in several post, and it deserves its own post. basically here is the question.... with mc chris gone and things generally turning for the worst, is sealab beyond the point of no return? consider the show's former greatness, current desolation, and the fact that it's only had 2 seasons. SEALAB WHAT HATH BECOME OF THEE!!! oh, i'm getting verklemmt.... talk amongst yourselves ill give you a topic, sealab is neither a lab or in the sea. discuss!

[DianaGohan]

Nice Linda Richman impression there. As for saving it or not, I still stand by my point I posted in a previous topic. It should be saved, (at least given the third season) since even though some episodes were fairly weak this season (The Leggend Of Baggy Pants, 7211, Repeats of Bizzaro and Tinfins) their was still enough good points to redeem it to have a third season. If that one bombs, then maybe WS should consider axing the show in favor of something else. But with 13 to about 20 episodes (Depending on which news source you believe) for a third season. they'd have to screw up pretty bad to warrant cancellation.

[HomeMoviesFan]

Don't worry...it's returning. It usually takes AS William Street shows quite a while to make a huge batch of new episodes, since they have to work on multiple series at the same time, making new ideas (quirky and hilarious, I hope), and doing the whole 'reused' animation thing. I mean, it IS returning, I have no idea why you thought it was cancelled...

[Vekou]

Sealab has had a great second season. Bizarro, Tinfins, Hail Squishface, Feast of Alvis, Legend of Baggy Pants ... they are all good episodes.

[gristl24]

Yes, the majority of season two has been lackluster, but I see no reason to give up all hope. MC Chris will be missed but I see no reason the show can't remain successful without him. I thought the Feast of Alvis episode was pretty damn funny and I don't see any reason they can't continue being funny.

P.S.
What's this crap about Loverboy sucking? Don't make me get out my *****in red jeans!

[DianaGohan]

I was mainly talking about the fans giving it a chance with the third season. I know it's confirmed to happen sometime this year, I just wanted to say that I will give it a chance, and it deserves to be given a chance. And if the third season fails, that then they should stop making the show.

Oh, and a quick note. This thread should be called "Can/Would it Be in Sealab's Best Intrest To Be Saved" since should is an "ouch" word and... (murmurs on).

[FredNash]

Sealab... bad? nooooo....:murphy: :quinn:

[sl4]

Sealab is still great. It's the random humor that makes Sealab great. It's the fact that it lacks any sort of structured plot that makes Sealab great. It's the fact that they play with the viewer (a la 7211) that makes Sealab great.

In my opinion, Sealab is still going strong.

[Scatha_the_Worm]

And lo! Alvis appeared and said unto thee, "Thou shalt watch Sealab, and it shall be good! And if thou dost not like it, thou shalt shut your pie hole, for thine head is filled with fignuts."

But seriously, I haven't seen a marked decrease in the quality of recent episodes (with 7211 being the exception). That's not to say that I don't have some minor quibbles with the show:
-Overuse of Capt. Murphy
-Loss of Hesh
-Incessant repeats
But these aren't anything that can't be overcome. Personally I think a lot of the anti-Sealab feelings around this board lately have been instigated by one particularly Sealab-hateful mod. Remember folks just because someone's a mod doesn't mean you have to agree with them. Though I haven't read the FAQ lately.:D

[jrh31584]

-Overuse of Capt. Murphy
-Loss of Hesh
-Incessant repeats
2 of those three are beyond anyone's control.

[Shnay]

I'd say the show definitely has definitely gone down hill. Is it beyond hope? I think there's still a chance it could be saved, but it would be tough. And I don't know how they're going to do 26 episodes. They might be able to do 13 more quality episodes, but I think 26 is quite a stretch.

I hope I'm going to be proven wrong, but I'm not holding my breath.

[bassist]

I like to think of Sealab like an Amusement park. It gets great reviews and does excellent business when it first shows up, but after a little while everyone has ridden everything, so you need a few new rides and few new attractions and maybe a coporate sponsership from Six Flags over Grizzlebees...

[PluribusFinn]

i'm aware that many more new episodes are on the way, but what the poll is about is, will those episodes be good? in my opinion, the only second season sealab that lived up to its first season glory was the "bizarro" episode.

[moreysurf8]

Originally posted by superloud4
Sealab is still great. It's the random humor that makes Sealab great. It's the fact that it lacks any sort of structured plot that makes Sealab great. It's the fact that they play with the viewer (a la 7211) that makes Sealab great.

I don't know....Space Ghost did all the above things and did them better, IMO. I think Sealab has definately gotten worse but it's not beyond saving. I'll give it this 3rd season to improve and if it's not better, I say scrap it. I mean 26 ep's leave lots of room for improvement.

[RedTail]

With 26 episodes, Sealab definatley won't be batting 1.000, but it'll still probably have a helluva 3rd season. The minute the show has one bad episode though, detractors of Sealab will be all over it like Philly fans on Mike Schmidt after a strikeout.

- RedTail

[Zyzzybalubah]

I still think it's a good show, just this recent run of episodes wasn't as great as the last batch. Squishface, Tinfins, and Feast of Alvis were all great episodes and Legend of Baggy Pants was meh. Bizarro is a decent episode but that whole bizzaro joke gets annoying but not nearly annoying as Special Ed on Crank Yankers. As for 7211, that was just grade F material. If they can produce some good episodes, then it should stay. But if the next batch of episodes are mostly the quality of 7211, Bizzarro, and Baggy Pants, then just drop the show and put some more money down on Harvey Birdman.

[The Landstander]

i might be the only one, but i actually liked The Legend of Baggy Pants.

anyways, season one was way better, but the show still has potential. as for season two:

good:
baggy pants (as i said, loved it), tinfins (grizzlebe's and the trailer made this one great)

meh:
7211 (very WS style humor), policy (too many awkward pauses), alvis (good, but kind of dragged on towards the end)

bad:
bizarro (bleech! awful. though i do say "don't you mean, bizarro [what person said]" on occasion), squishface (i watched it again and realized i hate it)

but even the "good" of season two is beaten by most of season one.

[RedTail]

Btw, why would anyone even think that Sealab is done for? It has plenty of life in it. Just because it had a few bad episodes in its second season doesn't mean the show deserves the axe. Compared to pieces of crap like The Brak Show, Sealab deserves an emmy.

- RedTail

[Zedizded]

I'm glad to hear Sealab 2021 is still writing and creating new stuff. If it's bad, it's bad and we'll all come here and say so. Just remember if they suck you're going to have to sit through sucky reruns like we just did for the last 2 Sundays.

Some say Sealab still has "life", and of course it does. Just remember that it's better for a series to quit while it's ahead, rather than alienating their audience and petering out because of crummy, un-funny episodes that cause the ratings to sink. Maybe Williams Street can find some other recycled show to parody and renew their creativity with new character and situations?

I think Selab in it's beginnings is great, but I also think that they are running out of funny materiel, and now the jokes are getting desperately immature. A bunch of Gloops that fart and stink up Sealab, as a premise, is a sign that they are clutching at straws. There is some good stuff in the last season, but a serious lack of creativity so I expect the next season to be worse than the last one.

It seems to me that the well of creativity is running dry, and when you're scraping the bottom of the barrel you can end up with some really stinky stuff.

AS on Sunday is supposed to be funny, and when episodes like "Bizzaro" air I thank God that it's only 15 minutes, and I hope that the next rerun isn't as stupid, but I'm dissapointed more often than not these days. Then the good shows they do run have lost their edge becasue they've been rerun dozens of times, we know the lines by heart so what's funny about that?

For people who defend Williams Street by asserting that they have a full plate, working on a bunch of different series-- I say that’s good for them, but their job is to make us laugh and if it isn't funny I have no sympathy. If the chef undercooks your chicken dinner do you swallow it anyway because the chef has so many orders to fill you should give him a break, or do you send it back with a message to get it right or you're leaving and not returning?

I voted "2nd season may be lackluster, but i won't give up on it", I voted this becasue I really do like Sealab, and I hope they recapture what they had in the beginning. But I am close to giving up on it. They are making another season, that's good news. Anything NEW on AS is good news, but I think they should consider making a new series.

[RedTail]

Some say Sealab still has "life", and of course it does. Just remember that it's better for a series to quit while it's ahead, rather than alienating their audience and petering out because of crummy, un-funny episodes that cause the ratings to sink. Maybe Williams Street can find some other recycled show to parody and renew their creativity with new character and situations?

Umm... The show hasn't even entered its third season and you're saying that it's dying and they should quit while their ahead? They just had a few bad episodes this season. That's all! If you want to know what sort of shows should quit while their ahead, look at The Simpsons. It should've been over for a couple of years now. It just keeps getting worse.

- RedTail

[cowboybebop27]

yeah sealab is alright without it there would be now stiff people walking around.......joking but i love that show

[eek!]

for a minute there i thought they were canning the third season. no no no, i LIKE Sealab 2021. sometimes i think people take that ess aych eye tea too darn seriously. The Alvis and Bizarro episodes that seemed to annoy the crap out of most people were terribly funny to me. but tv isn't life, you know.

[Vekou]

Why does everyone hate "Legend of Baggy Pants"? Although the last few minutes were unnecesarily slow-paced, I agree, the episode overall was great. Had some of the best quotes of all time, too.

[Mibbitmaker]

I voted "Great", though I admit an episode or two were lackluster.

Very Good: Tinfins and Bizarro

Not so good: The Gloop episode, plus Alvis went over the line.

Mostly... The show was pretty good, still.

(7211 works better upon subsequent viewings, once the viewer 'gets' the idea (imho, anyway))

[Zedizded]

Originally posted by RedTail
Umm... The show hasn't even entered its third season and you're saying that it's dying and they should quit while their ahead?

Yeah, but it's just my opinion. I don't want to watch a great show degenerate. IMO Sealab has gone from "great" to "okay" in a short amount of time, and it won't take long for it to go from "okay" to "cancelled piece of crap that nobody likes or bothers with". In the wise words of... some singer I can't remember "It's better to burn out, than to fade away". I know that was in Highlander too, but I swear someone sings that line in a song.

Originally posted by RedTail

They just had a few bad episodes this season

That’s how it begins. It can get worse, and my bet is it will. On top of that CN isn't happy unless they rerun the same thing a thousand times. They rerun so much that even the good episodes are kinda dulled. And if you have bad episodes rerun, one on top of the other, people are going to start changing the channel or pulling their hair out, whichever comes first. I know this because I experienced it for the past two Sundays, and this Sunday looks grim. I'm looking at the schedule for this Sunday night right now, and look what I see the next Sealab is going to be..."Bizarro"... Again. Oh joy. This will be the 3rd or 4th time for me, how about you?

Besides, measure those few bad episodes against the season before it and you can deduce where the series is going. Don't take that the wrong way, I really like Sealab and I hope I'm wrong.

Originally posted by RedTail
That's all! If you want to know what sort of shows should quit while their ahead, look at The Simpsons. It should've been over for a couple of years now. It just keeps getting worse.
Can't argue with that.