View Full Version : In 1000 years, what will people think when they look back at our society.
I.R Joey
02-08-2003, 11:31 PM
Will they consider us to be incredible inovators or total fools who nearly destroyed the Earth. Thoughts?
Rafeal v1.0
02-09-2003, 12:02 AM
well, assuming that we havnt destroyed each other by then, id say Idiotic Geniuses. Why? cause while we did some good stuff, we did about twice as much bad stuff.
Outlander00
02-09-2003, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by Rafeal v1.0
well, assuming that we havnt destroyed each other by then, id say Idiotic Geniuses. Why? cause while we did some good stuff, we did about twice as much bad stuff.
I agree... They would call us savages who were uncivilized :p
cross blues
02-09-2003, 12:11 AM
Either:
People living on Mars will despise our present society for ruining the Earth.
or:
There will be no people alive to look back at our society.
TimTwoFace
02-09-2003, 12:20 AM
The term "Organized Chaos" springs to mind. :)
-Tim
The Landstander
02-09-2003, 12:29 AM
depends on the civilization 1000 years from now.
jeffrey 228
02-09-2003, 12:47 AM
And if even possable, it would be just like the Show Futurerama, but of coruse it is just me. :rolleyes:
Damien
02-09-2003, 01:24 AM
Think about how our society looks at the world of 1,000 years ago, multiply that by a few hundred more ppl that don't care about history, and you have your answer.
For those who actually will look back at us, they'll probably think what alot of us think: "Why did it take so long to only get that far?"
Discloner
02-09-2003, 01:36 AM
"They used Mice to do things on comptuers that filled a desktop?!!??"
Bartak123
02-09-2003, 01:44 AM
Do we have culture...
When I think civlization I think Greeks...
Really most or even all civilizations are secondary when compared. Babylonian come to mind cause they were the first. Romans because they had one of the largest empire, it was so well organized, the greatest military at the time, and an empire that reigned for a thousand years.
The computer we will be known for that, though the computer was an eventuality...like Calculus. It wasn't an incredible breakthrough.
Damien
02-09-2003, 10:52 AM
Bartak, I doubt calculus forever changed anyone's lifestyle, or the means and speed by which we get information, ideas, and entertainment. Glad to see we have a math fan, though.
James
02-09-2003, 11:23 AM
The mice will be ruling the world by then and be more interested in the evolution of the perfect cheese than any of you.
*eep*
Hopefully the children of a 1000 years will look back at the problems in equality and hatred with embarassment. They will ask their teacher why Freddie Prince Jr was a Hollywood actor and how Slider's managed to continue to be renewed when better programmes did not.
They will continue to worship the cuteness of SJJ. How could there be such a perfect being in such an imprefect time? Why did he leave the realm of reality and why did he leave his mice to dominate and take over the world?
It would be at this point the mouse overlord would demand the children get back to work and resume the dairy process - there's cheese to be made... and it don't grow on trees..
Nightflower
02-09-2003, 11:30 AM
Well, what did we think of civilizations 1000 years ago? That would probably be the attitude they have... wonder and nostalgia for art and other things created and contempt, of course, for all the incorrect beliefs we have and our archaic social norms. :)
Outlander00
02-09-2003, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by SJJ
They will continue to worship the cuteness of SJJ. How could there be such a perfect being in such an imprefect time? Why did he leave the realm of reality and why did he leave his mice to dominate and take over the world?
Having delusions of granduer again, my friend? :p
James
02-09-2003, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by Outlander00
Having delusions of granduer again, my friend? :p
Trying to educate you, that's all. *watches the mice with concern - mice stare back with furry evilness*
Trying to warn you all.... flee before it's too late..
:p
Patrick Bateman
02-09-2003, 01:46 PM
I don't even think humanity will exist in 1000 years. We'll likely have nuked everyone by then. :rolleyes:
Brainatra
02-09-2003, 02:23 PM
>>The mice will be ruling the world by then and be more interested in the evolution of the perfect cheese than any of you.
*eep*
<<
Well, I'm sure Pinky will be interested in cheese evolution---Brain will probably have less "culinary" interests in mind. ;-)
>>Hopefully the children of a 1000 years will look back at the problems in equality and hatred with embarassment. They will ask their teacher why Freddie Prince Jr was a Hollywood actor and how Slider's managed to continue to be renewed when better programmes did not.
They will continue to worship the cuteness of SJJ. How could there be such a perfect being in such an imprefect time? Why did he leave the realm of reality and why did he leave his mice to dominate and take over the world?
It would be at this point the mouse overlord would demand the children get back to work and resume the dairy process - there's cheese to be made... and it don't grow on trees.. <<
BRAIN: Ah, but it *will* grow on cheese, my friend---it WILL! (Sighs) Only because Pinky insists in pursuing such a worthless project...
PINKY: We could have "Granny Smith" cheese, or "Macintosh" cheese, or---oooo, maybe even "Linux" cheese, POIT! WAHAHAHA!
-B.
Psycho Fox
02-09-2003, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by Damien
Bartak, I doubt calculus forever changed anyone's lifestyle, or the means and speed by which we get information, ideas, and entertainment. Glad to see we have a math fan, though. Umm without Calulus no: jet engine, broadcasting, computers,TVs,ect
So I would say calculus forever changed everything.
Brainatra
02-09-2003, 02:32 PM
They'll look back on us the same way we look back on the world of 1000 AD: Historians will think we had some good ideas, but also were pretty barbaric/mean-spirited/just plain short-sighted idiots. The average denizen of 3003 AD, however, will probably be more concerned with getting their bio-cyber-headlink with the cyber-net looked at by a neuro-cyberdoc while figuring out how to pay this month's cyber-net bill and telling the kids not to watch so much historical-and-by-"now"-classic 22nd-century-era holovids of "Animaniacs XVII: The Next Generation" before dinner.
Either that, or we'll all be tooling around in unnecessarily oversized, poor-gas-mileage-gettin' vehicles, wearing bad clothing and searching endlessly for affordable gas in a bombed-out, post-apocalyptic landscape... (takes a look at the size of the SUV's on the road, and realizes "Mad Max" might not be *too* far off the mark...)
-B.
Floydian Slip
02-09-2003, 02:47 PM
they'll say "holy crap! people used to live on earth?!?!?"
ccffan01
02-09-2003, 02:50 PM
I'm sure the Earth won't exsist then.
Bartak123
02-09-2003, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Psycho Fox
Umm without Calulus no: jet engine, broadcasting, computers,TVs,ect
So I would say calculus forever changed everything.
Well we could say the wheel is therefore the most important invention. It was eventuality...it would happen no matter what.-(though everything that happened in history is an eventuality)
The Greeks did profound things,
Philosophy, basically creating mathematics (they were the first to do proofs), make the foundations of logic and the forsight to spread their knowledge all through the world-(Alexander the Great though he is Macedonian). All of our thought is an extension of their civilization. I have a great deal of respect for them.
The leaps that they did are far more profound than say the invention of calculus or even the computer. The computer was much like the wheel, everything was leading to it. The computer also started in so many places. When we think our civilization, do we include all of the Western world?
DJ Raza
02-09-2003, 05:01 PM
Well we could say the wheel is therefore the most important invention. It was eventuality...it would happen no matter what.-(though everything that happened in history is an eventuality)
Bartak has a point. It had to happen eventually, and it won't leave a mark on everyone's lives and lifestyles forever. I assure you some time in the future (at some point) "computers" will become obsolete and probably no longer be used. They'll just be replaced by something else.
Maybe computers will be around for the next 1000 years, but I'll gurantee you they won't be around forever. So they haven't altered society and lifestyles indefinitely for all time.
serenitymoon
02-09-2003, 05:20 PM
Our civilization will probably be in ruins by that time and we as a race (the human race) will either be extinct or living on another planet like Mars or something). Other beings will probably find the ruins on Earth and try to figure our lives and cultures out... and get it all totally wrong... that compared to them we were nothing better than cavemen because we weren't that smart and destroyed our planet with pollution, war, and nuclear weapons. And think something like "Stupid creatures, do they not know a good thing when they've go it? No, they had to go and mess it all up."
The Landstander
02-09-2003, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by Damien
Bartak, I doubt calculus forever changed anyone's lifestyle, or the means and speed by which we get information, ideas, and entertainment. Glad to see we have a math fan, though.
you obviously haven't met Mr. Tita, my math teacher. i swear he lives for calculus.
i agree with the arguements about us looking back on civilization 1000 years ago. the few people who will actually care will think we had our ups and downs.
Psycho Fox
02-09-2003, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by DJ Raza
Maybe computers will be around for the next 1000 years, but I'll gurantee you they won't be around forever. So they haven't altered society and lifestyles indefinitely for all time. You sure? Fire is still here and odds we will control fire indefinitetly as the wheel.
Some technology lasts.
The Landstander
02-09-2003, 10:05 PM
hmm...i think computers are gonna remain a central part of life until the fall of western civilization (whenever that is). i just can't imagine computers just leaving the equation after how much they've affected societies in the past few decades
G. Wen
02-09-2003, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by Psycho Fox
Umm without Calulus no: jet engine, broadcasting, computers,TVs,ect
So I would say calculus forever changed everything.
The plow changed everything. With the plow, people could plant and harvest more intensely. This led to more food, which led to a settled lifestyle, which led to more people, which led to a system that was needed to manage all these people. It was the plow that made agriculture and complex civilizations possible, with its systems of govt.
1000 yrs isn't far enough into the future for people to go extinct. This is what people will think of us 1000 yrs. from now:
teacher: Today class, we will learn about the great and interesting civilization of Usa!
student 1: Who cares about a bunch of dead guys? Man, I hate history class! What's the pt. of history anyway?
student 2: Must write down everything teacher says so I can get a "A" and stay in the Honor Society!
student 3: I'm a cheerleader! *gigglegigglegigglegiggle*
student 4: I'm the angry kid who wears a lot of black. I'm angry that I'm oppressed into learning history!
student 1: *snores really loud*
teacher: Who is asleep while I lecture on this great and interesting subject of history?
DJ Raza
02-09-2003, 11:16 PM
You sure? Fire is still here and odds we will control fire indefinitetly as the wheel.
That's different though. We control fire, but we didn't invent it. The wheel was invented, just like the computer. Fire was discovered, not invented.
The Landstander
02-10-2003, 12:02 AM
Yet the invented wheel still remains an important part of modern-day life. therefore, it might be the same with computers.
Fiona
02-10-2003, 04:17 AM
Originally posted by TimTwoFace
The term "Organized Chaos" springs to mind. :)
-Tim
I agree, but we will also be remembered for our art, our scientific achievement, and our apathy.
Turtle25
02-10-2003, 10:54 PM
Did you know a thousand years isn't that long of a time? I think that the achievements of the people of our time would be stuided in great detail, how we developed a global civilization (in general) and tried getting closer to a complete society. Of course, they would also recognise that we were a long ways off, but that's human nature.
I don't think we'll be all 'nuked' as the popular opinion dictates. The computer and audiovisual mediums allowed communication at a speed and totality impossible in the past. They'll be around for a while.
Mike Spartz
02-12-2003, 01:46 AM
They'll probably think that the way we live now it very primative and strange compared to their highly advanced and technological existance. Then again, if the world was destroyed completely tomorrow and man had to start again from scratch, they might evny and hate us.
-just some food for thought :)
RogueMartian
02-12-2003, 12:54 PM
I don't think our alien overlords will let us study history much.
:D
Actually, I believe that future historians will look on us the way we look on the ancient romans. A powerful and developed culture for its time. But who knows, maybe in a thousand years, the U.S. will be an insignificant speck on the timeline of human history.
Leaping Larry Jojo
02-12-2003, 01:58 PM
They'll probably think how materialistic, greedy, anti-social and selfish we were.
Then they'll proceed to order several of the latest and trendy spandex-to-anything wear of the future using their handheld data communication shopping chips.
Bartak123
02-12-2003, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by RogueMartian
I don't think our alien overlords will let us study history much.
:D
Actually, I believe that future historians will look on us the way we look on the ancient romans. A powerful and developed culture for its time. But who knows, maybe in a thousand years, the U.S. will be an insignificant speck on the timeline of human history.
IMO I hardly think that U.S will be remembered like the Romans (a thousand years!!!). History wise even the British Empire will be remembered more than the U.S. Culturally America is still a child. Its a relatively young country. I don't want to bash America but imo I think every things gets so commericalized in America that the artistic merit goes down.
TimTwoFace
02-12-2003, 05:12 PM
Re: The American Legacy
You can't deny that the US has done a lot over the last two hundred years. Then again, a lot of other countries have, too, and they'll all be remembered. The single-most important thing that the US has accomplished in recent memory has got to be the space program; say what you will about social issues (racism and sexism stuff), but being the first to land on the moon was quite a big deal.
Looking back, though, the US (and any other country at the moment) has a long way to go to be on par with what the Romans and the British Empire accomplished in their time.
-Tim
Bartak123
02-13-2003, 02:25 AM
Originally posted by TimTwoFace
Re: The American Legacy
You can't deny that the US has done a lot over the last two hundred years. Then again, a lot of other countries have, too, and they'll all be remembered. The single-most important thing that the US has accomplished in recent memory has got to be the space program; say what you will about social issues (racism and sexism stuff), but being the first to land on the moon was quite a big deal.
Looking back, though, the US (and any other country at the moment) has a long way to go to be on par with what the Romans and the British Empire accomplished in their time.
-Tim
Well the soviets went into space first...this was quite a big deal
The domain of space cannot be totally centered on the U.S. That would be highly unfair.
And still, a lot of the space program was built on German minds. Hence, why Russia and the U.S had such good space programs.
Also, the problem is that Superpowers grow younger as time grows. I doubt the U.S will still be the dominant power in a 100 years. Though that means didly squat anything can happen in a 100 years.
Tempus
02-13-2003, 07:28 AM
They only used 10% of their BRAINS?!? They cut down trees to make paper an furniture?!? They actually drove cars that use as fuel petroleum? how primal....
I agree with BYO. In 1000 years, the population will be vastly smaller than it is now, if it exists at all IMO. When madmen and idiots (you know which 2 people I mean) are the leaders of 2 nations (and Blair is kissing one of thier asses) then we are in big trouble.
Scary thought that in 3 years from now, you all and moi might be fighting in a war.
Patrick Bateman
02-13-2003, 11:07 AM
Scary thought that in 3 years from now, you all and moi might be fighting in a war.
Not me. I refuse to go put my life in danger for a fight that someone else started, but can't finish *COUGH*bush*COUGH*. Notice how all the suits and congressmen start the wars, but when it comes time to fight it, they stay over here in their nice, comfy offices while innocent men who've only lived a third of their natural lifetime are sent to the slaughter. Well screw that. Bush wants to go to war? Give that bastard a gun and put him on a plane to Afghanistan. Oh, how quickly his stance will change.
Not me. I refuse to go put my life in danger for a fight that someone else started, but can't finish *COUGH*bush*COUGH*. Notice how all the suits and congressmen start the wars, but when it comes time to fight it, they stay over here in their nice, comfy offices while innocent men who've only lived a third of their natural lifetime are sent to the slaughter. Well screw that. Bush wants to go to war? Give that bastard a gun and put him on a
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Agree with you there again. If I'm called to War I will personnaly tell Tony Blair something I'm not allowed to say on these boards. It rhymes with cough. He wants to fight? Go fight! I want no part of wars and refuse to "die for my country" as its not my fight to win. I bet that none of the "suits" kids go fight in the war.
Ordinary Guy
02-13-2003, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by Rafeal v1.0
well, assuming that we havnt destroyed each other by then, id say Idiotic Geniuses. Why? cause while we did some good stuff, we did about twice as much bad stuff. Yeah! The bad stuff Cloning and Reality t.v.
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