PDA

View Full Version : Anti-Valentine's Day


DisneyBoy
02-08-2003, 08:58 PM
My friends and I began to lament our personal lacking of a "significant other"...only to realize that our feelings of self-pity and worthlessness were simply by-products of Valentine's Day - a highly commercialized "holiday" in which the true meaning of love is entirely forgotten by those who have it. So rather than moping about, or attacking all the kissy-faced couples we see next Friday, we are going to amass a collection of random symbols of Valentine's Day - such as candy hearts, pink boxes and such - and jump up and down on them.

You are all envited to partake in our protest.

The Guard
02-08-2003, 09:01 PM
While we're at it lets ruin their wonderful relationships so they'll all be as lonely as the single people are. Jump on candy if you must, but let the lovers have their day.

DisneyBoy
02-08-2003, 09:10 PM
Now, now...

We're not interested in hurting people's feelings! :rolleyes: I just posted this to let people know they don't have to take Valentine's Day too seriously! I, for one, always find comfort in having a wonderful meal lovingly prepared by my mother come February 14th....but the over-commercialization of V-Day has every one asking themselves "Why am I not married yet" or "Why doesn't anybody love me"...all because some companies want to make a buck off candy. It's a wierd day, in all honesty.

So all you folks out there - jump on some candy if ya need to, but don't get blue! :) Love is out there in many shapes and forms!

Pihlajamaa
02-08-2003, 09:47 PM
Sounds like a good idea to me, DisneyBoy!

Damien
02-08-2003, 10:41 PM
So instead of moping about being single, you're gonna bring down a tantrum on V-Day items (that you'll obviously be buying, therefore feeding the evil establishment, because I doubt you'd be stealing these items, and from the way you're talking, you don't receive many of them). Great plan.

cross blues
02-08-2003, 10:57 PM
Anti- couples celebrating their love, no.

Anti- people wasting money on stupid things that have nothing to do with love because a "holiday" tells them to, definitely.

Damien
02-08-2003, 11:24 PM
[Anti- people wasting money on stupid things that have nothing to do with love because a "holiday" tells them to, definitely.]

And I guess hearts and roses and gifts for your guy or girl have nothing to do with love.
With this logic, I take it you don't buy Christmas presents, either.

Failure
02-08-2003, 11:33 PM
Geez. Valentine's Day always seems to irk people the wrong way, whether it's because of jealousy, envy, or whatever.

Personally, V-Day has never been a special day to me. I don't like it, I don't dislike it. It's just another day to me.

I really don't think corporations intend to make people question thselves "Why am I not married yet" or "Why doesn't anybody love me." Like you said DB, they're just out to make money. Those messages are out there for everyone, and if you choose to beat yourself over your lacking love-life, then it's a decision you make, not one that's pushed by commercial America.

And as for V-Day being over-commercialized, let's face the facts. Every holiday is over-commercialized. Especially Christmas. As far as I'm concerned, Christmas has no religious connotations anymore. As Matthew Good sang "Christmas is for shopping. And the shopping god is everything." At least V-Day's commercialization has stayed true to its roots.

I just don't see the logic in protesting V-Day. I mean, if you want to, go ahead, but it just seems pretty pointless to me. If you really disdain it, I'd just think it be more useful to keep your mind off it, instead of directing hate towards it. It's not as if we have a shortage of hate going around anyway.

Besides, nothing will replace Love Day in my heart. ;)

ZorBrak
02-08-2003, 11:44 PM
DUDES....your depression is not a by-product of V-day. You guys were doing this at Christmas...and I was participating in the sulking. I shouldn't have. Go find some girls V-day instead of running around crushing things. After the X-Mas thread...I stopped sulking about chicks and you know what? Stuff has turned around. A whole bunch. Go out and look for single chicks that day instead. :)

jeffrey 228
02-09-2003, 12:49 AM
Well I usually don't have much in the way of Valentine's Day, since I usually ignore these events because of one thing, no money.

Bartak123
02-09-2003, 01:57 AM
I had to go meet my brother who lived in one of the school residences, I found something extremly funny...

One the Valentines message board...there was three messages to one girl...

Message 1: I love you
Message 2: I know where you live
Message 3: I watch you

all signed by Anonymous

I busted my gut...

BlueAngelGal
02-09-2003, 02:36 AM
Originally posted by DisneyBoy
My friends and I began to lament our personal lacking of a "significant other"...only to realize that our feelings of self-pity and worthlessness were simply by-products of Valentine's Day - a highly commercialized "holiday" in which the true meaning of love is entirely forgotten by those who have it. So rather than moping about, or attacking all the kissy-faced couples we see next Friday, we are going to amass a collection of random symbols of Valentine's Day - such as candy hearts, pink boxes and such - and jump up and down on them.

You are all envited to partake in our protest.

Sounds awesome to me. Not only is V-Day a stupid commercial "holiday" (I mean, c'mon, if you love them, why do you need a special day to show it?), but it's the worst day for having it rubbed in your face all day long, "look, everybody's with someone, everybody's all lovey-dovey and happy -- except you."

Patrick Bateman
02-09-2003, 02:51 AM
God, you people are pathetic. (Except those of you who also pointed out the cry baby-ness of course)

Nightflower
02-09-2003, 11:19 AM
Oh, pish posh. I think it's funny and they're just having fun, which is far better than the people who flock to their livejournals to whine about how evil Valentine's Day is. :)

James
02-09-2003, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by Nightflower
Oh, pish posh. I think it's funny and they're just having fun, which is far better than the people who flock to their livejournals to whine about how evil Valentine's Day is. :)

Pish posh - what a wonderful phrase *scribbles it down in his English journal*

A bit of levity never hurts and I've spent many Valantine's day alone - I never even think about it. As long as it's in jest and not a bitter retribute - enjoy the anti-ness of the thread! I recall a similar thread for those of us who had been blown out at New Year... :)

Terminatah
02-09-2003, 11:53 AM
I think this is a very dangerous state of mind. Do you see Jews buying Christmas decorations so they can bash them on Christmas Eve? What about really lonely guys buying Thanksgiving turkeys and then thrashing them around the apartment with a paddle? That's just a step away from what you guys are doing.

-Terminatah

turbomog007
02-09-2003, 12:03 PM
I would crush all the candy and stuff but candy tastes good. :p

DJ Raza
02-09-2003, 12:57 PM
Damien pretty much said everything I could say against this idea, and Zorbrak pretty much covered any positive aspect I could shed on this dilemma, so what can I say now?

Not a whole lot... just, well, whatever... find some single females or get a hobby... write a book... study Communism... adopt a small child in Ethiopia... bake a cake... make an herb garden... but do something better with your money then buying candy and Valentine's items to destroy and trample...

Message 1: I love you
Message 2: I know where you live
Message 3: I watch you

Hah!...

I'm afraid I might know this person (who shall go "NoName"-less) from an old forum... but then again the grammar is written too well... so I doubt it...

I think this is a very dangerous state of mind. Do you see Jews buying Christmas decorations so they can bash them on Christmas Eve? What about really lonely guys buying Thanksgiving turkeys and then thrashing them around the apartment with a paddle? That's just a step away from what you guys are doing.

Exactly.

The Guitar Slayer
02-09-2003, 01:13 PM
Valentine's Day is way overcommercialized. It didn't start out this way; both St. Valentines were martyred on this day, and they did what they did out of love of someone else. Even if you're not Catholic, please read this:

According to http://www.stvalentines.net/stvalentine.htm ....

There are various accounts as to whom St Valentine was. It is said that there were two St Valentine's whom died at around the same time and are buried virtually in the same place at the Flaminian Way, both of these saints has been said to be the saint associated with the Patron Saint of Lovers "Saint Valentine".

The first of the Saints was considered to be a Roman Priest or Bishop of the Christian faith, who was also a physician and practised his trade from his house. He was said to cure the sick of ailments, giving them special medicines or ointments. He was said to have done this out of the goodness of his heart sometimes refusing any payment whatsoever or accepting a loaf of bread or whatever could be spared by the sick. One Day the jailer bought his daughter to see Valentine, so as to see if she could have her sight gained and Valentine was said to have rubbed an ointment on her eyes and told the jailer to bring her back once a week to have the ointment rubbed on her eyes.

Other versions of this tale (like on Historychannel.com) have him just being a Christian doctor and falling in love with the girl. Anyway, continuing...

Every night he would pray under the dark of night for the sick to be cured. As a result of his beliefs he was arrested and thrown in jail. The jailer who could not do a thing went to see Valentine moments before he was to be executed at which point Valentine asked for a piece of paper and pen on the piece of paper it is said he was suppose to have written "from your Valentine" and inside the paper also was a blossom of which it is said gave the girl her sight.

The second of the Saints was said to have been a priest also, but, that he was secretly carrying out marriages of young lovers which under the Emperor Claudius II's laws at the time was forbidden, the reason being that Claudius did not want the men marrying because they must be able to concentrate on war and not their loved one.

Which ever story is true, today we celebrate St Valentine's day by exchanging gifts such as cards, candy, flowers, etc. The reason why we celebrate it on February 14 is this was the day on which it is said that St Valentine was executed.


Y'see, it wasn't about getting laid or giving men headaches about what to buy women. It was about helping people. I think it'd be nice if we singles celebrate Valentine's Day in this manner. Don't stress about finding someone by then; perhaps because of your actions, some girl who likes "nice guys" will take notice (and they do exist! [points at self]).

Peace.

Patrick Bateman
02-09-2003, 01:29 PM
I think this is a very dangerous state of mind. Do you see Jews buying Christmas decorations so they can bash them on Christmas Eve? What about really lonely guys buying Thanksgiving turkeys and then thrashing them around the apartment with a paddle? That's just a step away from what you guys are doing.
That's what I thought. It's just a cry for attention if you ask me.

ZorBrak
02-09-2003, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by Batman Year One
That's what I thought. It's just a cry for attention if you ask me.

I agree. Their sulking around like this is a pointless and sad waste of time. It's ruining something someone else might find meaningful just because they don't like it.

Failure
02-09-2003, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by Terminatah
I think this is a very dangerous state of mind. Do you see Jews buying Christmas decorations so they can bash them on Christmas Eve? What about really lonely guys buying Thanksgiving turkeys and then thrashing them around the apartment with a paddle? That's just a step away from what you guys are doing.

-Terminatah

The turkey thrashing sounds mighty tempting though.

Mackenzie Rainelle
02-09-2003, 02:20 PM
The only thing I don't like about Valentine's Day is that I usually end up stuck at home, completely alone, for most of the evening, as I am the only person in my group of friends (or my entire family) who is single. It's just kinda sad when the ONLY companionship you have on a holiday is your computer. I don't do well being alone, I get to thinking way too much when I am, and then I'm miserable. ::shrug:: Take that as whining if you like, but it's the facts to me. And to make this year even MORE fun, I'm spending Valentine's Day as a member of my best friend's wedding, which I'm happy for her, but it also serves to AGAIN point out that I have no special someone, and no chance in the near future.

DisneyBoy
02-09-2003, 08:36 PM
(Sigh)


I'm picking up some very unnecessarily negative vibes here. There's nothing wrong with expressing an opinion as long as it isn't derogatory towards others, or dangerous. Presuming that nobody around Toonzone is likely to go from squashing candy to complete mental psychosis, I don't think your warnings are merited Terminatah:

I think this is a very dangerous state of mind. Do you see Jews buying Christmas decorations so they can bash them on Christmas Eve? What about really lonely guys buying Thanksgiving turkeys and then thrashing them around the apartment with a paddle? That's just a step away from what you guys are doing.

:eek: Jews decimating a Christian holiday? There's an extreme if I've ever heard one. If you didn't make comments like this all the time, I might find that insulting. I'm a very accepting and respectful person and I'd appreciate you treating everyone the same way, regardless of whether you happen to agree or not.

Contrary to what you may think, Batman Year One, holidays make an awful lot of people feel lonely, and I don't think it's fair to point a finger and redicule them. We all feel alone sometimes. It's a natural human emotion and shouldn't be regarded as "pathetic". That's just insensitive.

So instead of moping about being single, you're gonna bring down a tantrum on V-Day items (that you'll obviously be buying, therefore feeding the evil establishment, because I doubt you'd be stealing these items, and from the way you're talking, you don't receive many of them). Great plan.

Damien, I think you made an assumption. I will not go out and buy candy hearts so that I can jump on them, and if anybody were to bring in candy hearts to spread some love, I would never think of insulting that kind person by destroying them. Let's use some logic, okay? I'm not that kind of guy :D

This isn't about breaking up relationships or attacking happy people! :p I'm pretty sure everybody who comes here has known and felt real love, and treasured it. I'm not suggesting a ban on Valentine's Day, but rather a fun way of getting yourself out of that loneliness funk should you start to feel down this Friday. Get some candy and jump on it. If you don't need to - great!

Don't go overboard on this folks. Nightflower, Prozzak and Barb get it (thankfully). Don't judge others based on their feelings. That's not what these boards are about. Let's be civil and loving, Ok? Isn't that what Valentine's is all about?

James
02-09-2003, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by DisneyBoy
(Sigh)
Don't go overboard on this folks. Nightflower, Prozzak and Barb SJJ get it (thankfully). Don't judge others based on their feelings. That's not what these boards are about. Let's be civil and loving, Ok? Isn't that what Valentine's is all about?

I'm cute, but cute in a masculine way, and unlike me, the little redheaded mod didn't post in this thread. So I'm deducing that you've misread my cuteness for Barb's. Easily done! :D *points to quote and the edit*

Chris Sanders MSX
02-09-2003, 09:03 PM
I'd be with you guys but last week a girl revealed her feelings for me. While it was my decision to stay single until college (so I wouldn't get attatched to anyone, before I left), I still got lonely every now and then. I caved under and now, I'm in my first relationship in 5 months. It feels good and I actually want to do something for Valentines Day. We are going to see Dare Devil. :D

Still people are going to feel bad around this time and they have the right to voice that. It feels good to know your not alone and yes to whine about it.

Jade_GL
02-09-2003, 09:49 PM
Everything is over-commercialized. It's just what life is. Christmas decorations are in stores by the time Halloween is over, and the Halloween decorations and candy had been in the stores since September. It's like this with all holidays, but just because I don't like a holiday or what it represents doesn't mean I am going to go trash some delicious candy treats..... Hmmmmm... Candy.

Anyway, I am going to see Daredevil with my bf too. I don't want to do anything cutesy or Valentine related, so we won't be buying any candy hearts or chocaoltes or flowers. In fact, I already bought him his gift, which is the gold variant of Fathom 1/2.

I think that's the best way to protest Valentines. To go do something fun and not give yourelf the chance to see all those silly candies, cards, and treats. And not buyign them either.

Alaskanbullworm
02-09-2003, 10:05 PM
To quote Principal Scudworth from Clone High:

"What is this touchy feely bull-crap?" :p


So I don't have someone close to me this year for Valentines Day, I'm ok with that. This just gives me hope to find someone special during the next year. Even though the over-commercialism of Val's Day can get a little annoying, it's still a special day for people no matter what.

DisneyBoy
02-09-2003, 10:14 PM
SJJ!


*Slaps forehead and blushes like a ripe tomato*

So sorry. That avatar thing you two have going on has thrown me more than once. :p Thanks for the support ;)

Congrats on the relationship, Chris! Enjoy the film and give her a nice big hug when she least expects it!

I think that's the best way to protest Valentines. To go do something fun and not give yourelf the chance to see all those silly candies, cards, and treats. And not buyign them either.

That's the spirit! And don't worry - I'm too broke to afford candy :rolleyes: :D

Even though the over-commercialism of Val's Day can get a little annoying, it's still a special day for people no matter what.

It is. Thank God for my family and friends and the real love we can depend on. Hope the same goes for everybody here ;)

James
02-09-2003, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by DisneyBoy
SJJ!
*Slaps forehead and blushes like a ripe tomato*

So sorry. That avatar thing you two have going on has thrown me more than once. :p Thanks for the support ;)

It's a small downside to the wonderful upside of sharing an avatar with a great person! No problem. I think it's funny!

I think Valantines day suffers for that pressure it puts people under to have a relationship. I think an anti valentines day readdresses that balance. Go for it! I think it's a worthwhile cause! :)

Kuja's Light
02-09-2003, 11:40 PM
V-day isn't special for me at the moment. I got too much other stuff to think about than getting lonely on that day. And besdes, I'll take this one holiday candy while it lasts.

Brainatra
02-10-2003, 12:58 AM
I'm single, but V-Day doesn't bother me at all---just another day until the gloriousness that is the 15th of February, when all the candy is on sale at HALF-PRICE! :-)

-B.

Fiona
02-10-2003, 03:54 AM
Valentine's day never used to bum me out, even when single, because it was a time for expressing love towards my family and friends as much as anything. But a few years ago the whole meaning of Valentines day changed for me when Eve Ensler started V-day, which is a global campaign to stop violence against women. Every year, on valentines day, a celebrity filled cast performs "The Vagina Monologues" with all monies going to the cause. It's actually really great and for anyone who might be interested in learning a bit more about it the website is V-Day: Until the Violence Stops (http://www.vday.org)

It's cool so check it out and it might give new meaning to such a commercial and, for many, downer of a day. :)

Singin' Stray Cat
02-10-2003, 01:27 PM
As the starter of the Anything But Valentine's Day avatar contest, (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=66254)I guess I should probably clear a few things up here. I'm not "against" Valentine's day either, just another day as far as I'm concerned. I just wanted to do something a little different, y'know, because February rolls around, and the first holiday people think of is Valentine's...there's other holidays too...

Eh, y'know, had to get it out of my system. This post and the contest. :p

Supreme
02-10-2003, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by DisneyBoy
Contrary to what you may think, Batman Year One, holidays make an awful lot of people feel lonely, and I don't think it's fair to point a finger and redicule them. We all feel alone sometimes. It's a natural human emotion and shouldn't be regarded as "pathetic". That's just insensitive.


*points finger*
HA-HA!

/insensitive

Patrick Bateman
02-10-2003, 05:47 PM
I'm sorry, DisneyBoy. I think you were right afterall. Let the smashing begin.

Terminatah
02-10-2003, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by DisneyBoy
(Sigh)


I'm picking up some very unnecessarily negative vibes here. There's nothing wrong with expressing an opinion as long as it isn't derogatory towards others, or dangerous. Presuming that nobody around Toonzone is likely to go from squashing candy to complete mental psychosis, I don't think your warnings are merited Terminatah: My warnings are perfectly merited. You're jumping up and down on symbols of love.

Originally posted by DisneyBoy
:eek: Jews decimating a Christian holiday? There's an extreme if I've ever heard one. If you didn't make comments like this all the time, I might find that insulting. I'm a very accepting and respectful person and I'd appreciate you treating everyone the same way, regardless of whether you happen to agree or not. If I didn't make comments like this all the time?

What do you think you're doing? Decimating something symbolic of a holiday that makes you miserable because of the relationship you don't have. It might as well be Christmas, or any other day that means something to anyone. My comment was totally not insulting and perfectly respectable. You're just taking offense because it made you look bad.

Originally posted by DisneyBoy
Contrary to what you may think, Batman Year One, holidays make an awful lot of people feel lonely, and I don't think it's fair to point a finger and redicule them. We all feel alone sometimes. It's a natural human emotion and shouldn't be regarded as "pathetic". That's just insensitive. He's not the one who started this topic.

Originally posted by DisneyBoy
Damien, I think you made an assumption. I will not go out and buy candy hearts so that I can jump on them, and if anybody were to bring in candy hearts to spread some love, I would never think of insulting that kind person by destroying them. Let's use some logic, okay? I'm not that kind of guy :D "We are going to amass a collection of random symbols of Valentine's Day - such as candy hearts, pink boxes and such - and jump up and down on them." - DisneyBoy

So you're not going to destroy anything you buy or receive. Are you planning on pulling these items out of thin air?

Originally posted by DisneyBoy
This isn't about breaking up relationships or attacking happy people! :p I'm pretty sure everybody who comes here has known and felt real love, and treasured it. I'm not suggesting a ban on Valentine's Day, but rather a fun way of getting yourself out of that loneliness funk should you start to feel down this Friday. Get some candy and jump on it. If you don't need to - great! Some way to have fun.

Originally posted by DisneyBoy
Don't go overboard on this folks. Nightflower, Prozzak and Barb get it (thankfully). Don't judge others based on their feelings. That's not what these boards are about. Let's be civil and loving, Ok? Isn't that what Valentine's is all about? This doesn't mean anything. You don't want anyone to judge your feelings, but in the meantime, that's what you're doing. Let people have their opinions.

And if you want to cheer up on Valentine's Day, find something about it to enjoy -- not destroy. I think that's what Valentine's Day is about.

-Terminatah

Leaping Larry Jojo
02-11-2003, 12:44 AM
Can I bor-row a feeling... :p

Tootlez
02-11-2003, 07:27 AM
What? V-Day is coming? NNNNNNNNNnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, the humanity! Flowers, Kisses, chocolate hearts! Eek! @_@

I would just rather spend the comercialized holiday with some of my dearest friends watching movies at their houses! In fact that is exactly what I'll do!


Sure I don't think that all of the holiday has gone to waste, everyone likes someone (in someway)! The bad part is that they either arn't there or they don't like you back! That's probably the worst part!
Like last V-Day! It was probably the first time that I cared about having someone for the holiday. I like someone and ironicly they did too, but then they didn't tell me that they were going out with someone while still giving my the "signs" argh!

*sigh*

But this year all I want to do is call one person that I like and just wish them happy V-Day and then hang up and go to my friends house.

L8rZ

Beat
02-11-2003, 04:22 PM
I'm in.

Supreme
02-11-2003, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by Leaping Larry Jojo
Can I bor-row a feeling... :p

Can I have the keys to the car, lover? I feel like changing wigs.