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stanteau
01-16-2003, 06:33 PM
There was at leats 30 people at my school who watched AS religiously,20 mainly watched IY.Since this,about 15 have given up on the block completely,10 or so that watch Futurama than switch off,2 tape it,and only maybe 2 or 3 that still stay up to watch IY.

You may say AS isn't directed at highschool kids,but that does seem to be it's mass audience.

jeffrey 228
01-16-2003, 06:37 PM
And let's not let CN hear about this or it will be bad.

Sprocket
01-16-2003, 06:39 PM
They're not being very mature about it, are they? Jeez, it's still ON.

Oh no! Anime is not being exalted and given an exclusive amount of time! They must PAY!

PluribusFinn
01-16-2003, 06:45 PM
most of my friends are humongous adult swim comedy geeks like me who already use up heinous amounts of videotape on it weekly, so the new time frame doesn't really make a difference. even though i am miffed that now i don't stay up late enough to see sealab on sundays.

JeffTMBG
01-16-2003, 06:46 PM
If your classmates can't figure out how to use a VCR, perhaps it may be better that they spend less time on tv and more time on their studies.

stanteau
01-16-2003, 06:56 PM
Their like me in that even if they taped it,they don't have enough free time to actually watch the tape once they get home form work and finish up all the school work.

And they are not otaku's in any way shape or form,they just can't stay up to watch IY.

Masamune2052
01-16-2003, 06:57 PM
If 15 people at your school watch Adult Swim "religiously", yet they give it up just because of a schedule change, then they don't give a damn about Adult Swim and are not fans on the block, obviously.

Shnay
01-16-2003, 07:11 PM
CN is trying to build a block that appeals to the 18-24 demographic. I don't think they care too much if they're losing the younger viewers. In fact, they might even be happy about it. That was a large part of why they changed the schedule in the first place, right?

The Landstander
01-16-2003, 07:14 PM
my school has gained a few futurama fans. i also converted another one of my friends to home movies. not that many anime types at my school, so this new schedule is actually good (from my view, anyways).

sl4
01-16-2003, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by Masamune2052
If 15 people at your school watch Adult Swim "religiously", yet they give it up just because of a schedule change, then they don't give a damn about Adult Swim and are not fans on the block, obviously.

This change affected a lot of people I know from my school as well. I think I'm the only one left, that's why I love this forum so much! :D

Many of them could stay up for all of Saturday and Sunday without problems, but now they don't get to watch it very often any more... having to wake up at 6:00 AM really sucks. They're not too dumb to program their VCR, they're just really lazy. :o

deathscythe51
01-16-2003, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by Shnay
CN is trying to build a block that appeals to the 18-24 demographic. I don't think they care too much if they're losing the younger viewers. In fact, they might even be happy about it. That was a large part of why they changed the schedule in the first place, right?


I agree with you on that one. It is pretty obvious because AS is only on school nights and not on non-school nights, which discourages young viewers since most of them can't stay up that late on a school night.

moreysurf8
01-16-2003, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by stanteau
There was at leats 30 people at my school who watched AS religiously,20 mainly watched IY.Since this,about 15 have given up on the block completely,10 or so that watch Futurama than switch off,2 tape it,and only maybe 2 or 3 that still stay up to watch IY.

You may say AS isn't directed at highschool kids,but that does seem to be it's mass audience.

Im in high school and I just tape, if your friends really liked AS that much they would find out how to set their vcr, it's not difficult....and to be honest I think CN could care less if 30 kids at your high school don't watch it anymore. OH NO 30 KIDS AREN'T WATCHING AS, change the schedule at once!

Killtacular
01-16-2003, 07:23 PM
There was at leats 30 people at my school who watched AS religiously,20 mainly watched IY.Since this,about 15 have given up on the block completely,10 or so that watch Futurama than switch off,2 tape it,and only maybe 2 or 3 that still stay up to watch IY.

Mission accomplished.

Obi
01-16-2003, 07:24 PM
I think AS losing viewers from you're school is a *good thing*

Unless of course, they're Seniors. Then that's sort of bad.

Masamune2052
01-16-2003, 07:26 PM
Exactly my point. It will be awhile before everyone understands that Cartoon Network doesn't want high schoolers to watch Adult Swim as much as they do adults. It's called Adult Swim for a reason.

jeffrey 228
01-16-2003, 07:27 PM
And we all know that Seniors are 18 to 19 year olds and all.

Chibi Kageboshi
01-16-2003, 07:29 PM
if your friends are juniors or seniors and cant stay up until 2 or 1 then they probably dont study a lot or are big losers cuz everyone i know before AS moved to weekdays stayed up until 1 a.m. atleast. And i stay up until 2 i wake up at 6:30 i also work so i dont see what everyones big problem is.

sl4
01-16-2003, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by Chibi Kageboshi
if your friends are juniors or seniors and cant stay up until 2 or 1 then they probably dont study a lot or are big losers cuz everyone i know before AS moved to weekdays stayed up until 1 a.m. atleast. And i stay up until 2 i wake up at 6:30 i also work so i dont see what everyones big problem is.

Some people do better than others on little amounts of sleep. I know someone who sometimes goes for weeks at a time with no sleep, just for fun. I can do pretty well on little sleep, I just need a couple weeks to ease into it and I'm fine.

Masamune2052
01-16-2003, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by superloud4
Some people do better than others on little amounts of sleep. I know someone who sometimes goes for weeks at a time with no sleep, just for fun. I can do pretty well on little sleep, I just need a couple weeks to ease into it and I'm fine.
I hope your exaggerating, because if he goes weeks without sleep, he's not human.

Arxane
01-16-2003, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by Matt Wilson
Mission accomplished.

Amen to that.

sl4
01-16-2003, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by Masamune2052
I hope your exaggerating, because if he goes weeks without sleep, he's not human.

She's gone for about a week with no sleep a bunch of times before. :eek: I don't see how anyone can do that, it's pretty crazy.

jeffrey 228
01-16-2003, 07:46 PM
And I know that you can get sick if you don't get enough sleep and all, and we would not want that would we. :rolleyes:

hyprlynx
01-16-2003, 08:05 PM
what they could do is tape it and then watch it during the hours of the old AS block. If they had time to watch it when it was on Saturday nights what's to stop them from watching a taped copy then? I'd say they weren't really big fans of it if they drop it just because of a time change. Besides CN is going for an adult demographic to get in more advertising revenue.

stanteau
01-16-2003, 09:04 PM
They are all 17 or 18

And my point was,if they lose 30 17-18 year olds in one school,who knows how many they've lost on a national level.

Crimefighter
01-16-2003, 09:12 PM
Sheesh...I tape the stuff I haven't seen and skip over the rest I've already seen. Course so far I've stayed up to watch the stuff I'm taping...mainly the second hour.

jeffrey 228
01-16-2003, 10:02 PM
That kina makes you loose sleep and all that, doesen't it.

rad ed hologram
01-16-2003, 10:14 PM
Many of the people i know who watch adult swim stopped, so they could get sleep most of them are 17 but school stars early and getting up at 5:30 with 5 hours of sleep isnt for them i guess.

But now they are relying on me for taping and updates(i dont understand why they cant program their own taps...blah). most of them cant even see the good side of it, getting four eps a week insted of one is a plus in my book and if i have to stay up an extra hour so be it. im in the central time so inuyasha ends at 12:00 for me so its not that bad( i already have yu yu and cowboy bebop on tape). I used to stay up thursdays so ill get used to less sleep..no problam :( ( i hope)

randomguy
01-16-2003, 10:15 PM
Mission accomplished.

Shut up, Matt.

Okay, sorry, that was rude. But I sympathize with Stanteau. I go to high school as well, I'm 17, and I'm insulted by the sentiment that I'm not old enough to watch AS. You can't just set the bar at 18 and rail on anyone under that age who watches the block... it's really not fair, especially since there's not a single show on AS above TV-14. Any true animation fan deserves to be able to watch the block, and I'd say 14 and up is reasonable at this point in time. I think the "legal adults only" mindset is elitist and stupid.

The Landstander
01-16-2003, 10:26 PM
as i said in another thread, is it really a good idea for adult swim to try and completely alienate it's high school audience (whenther or not they want it, they have it[to a point]). though im still torn on what i think the best time to start ASW is (10 and 11 both have their pros and cons), but i think that ASC sundays should start a 10 like it always did. and put the williams street shows right after futurama.

John Miles
01-16-2003, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by randomguy
Shut up, Matt.

Okay, sorry, that was rude. But I sympathize with Stanteau. I go to high school as well, I'm 17, and I'm insulted by the sentiment that I'm not old enough to watch AS. You can't just set the bar at 18 and rail on anyone under that age who watches the block... it's really not fair, especially since there's not a single show on AS above TV-14. Any true animation fan deserves to be able to watch the block, and I'd say 14 and up is reasonable at this point in time. I think the "legal adults only" mindset is elitist and stupid.

The major audience they're trying to attact is age 18 and above. No one's saying you can't watch Adult Swim if you're under 18, just don't ***** to us that you can't stay up that late on a schoolnight (that wasn't directed just at you, by the way, I was just using you as an example).

Sheamon
01-16-2003, 10:58 PM
There was at leats 30 people at my school who watched AS religiously,20 mainly watched IY.Since this,about 15 have given up on the block completely,10 or so that watch Futurama than switch off,2 tape it,and only maybe 2 or 3 that still stay up to watch IY.

Your point is...? Thats why they did it in the first place. And as mentioned already, how faithful are you to the block if you're gonna dump it so quickly like that when they double the amount of time it on?


You may say AS isn't directed at highschool kids,but that does seem to be it's mass audience.
And you of course have statistics to back this up, correct?



They are all 17 or 18

And my point was,if they lose 30 17-18 year olds in one school,who knows how many they've lost on a national level


And think of how many they've gained by changing it from two nights to five. Think about it. Saturday night's a popular night to go out. And Sunday's a school night already. You may lose a non-school night for the shows, but the fact remains that with more than double the time and the addition of Futurama to the beginning of the block, the odds of new viewers is much higher than dumping the block on Saturday nights, a literal black hole for getting good ratings.

MattThomasM2B
01-16-2003, 11:12 PM
Lol, I love my Comcast cable box. I have my stuff set up so I can record on my VCR, turn off my TV and still get Lupin and Inu Yasha. Hoo-ray 4 me!

turbomog007
01-16-2003, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by superloud4
She's gone for about a week with no sleep a bunch of times before. :eek: I don't see how anyone can do that, it's pretty crazy.

My friend is a clinically officiated insomniac and he can't stay up for that long of periods. Is she an insomniac or something?

Master Moron
01-16-2003, 11:51 PM
I find it odd that everyone seems to have loyalty to Adult Swim. Everyone's saying if they were really "faithful" and were "real fans" they'd tape the shows.

I find it silly for anyone to be loyal to a block of television. I mean, the block doesn't have any loyalty to the fans, so why should the fans be loyal to them? It's only a television block, watch it or don't watch it. It's your choice. If the new timeslot isn't to your liking, you don't have to watch it. Who cares if someone's not being "faithful" to the block?

sl4
01-16-2003, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by turbomog007
My friend is a clinically officiated insomniac and he can't stay up for that long of periods. Is she an insomniac or something?

Nope. Actually, I've never met her. I knew her online a while back. The first week of summer vacation, she stays up an entire week with no sleep "to celebrate". Doesn't make any sense to me either, but oh well.

lostrune
01-16-2003, 11:58 PM
Maybe they dropped out because, when before it was a once-a-week event thing, now it's less special, more common, no more whole week to digest and discuss -only 1 ep- at their own pace (kinda like once-a-week sitcoms or football games). Or they might've liked it before when they didn't have to put too much effort to watch it (stay up late only once a week, on Saturday no less); now they have to keep up everyday - too much effort. Or the extra effort of using a VCR; they liked it more when they only had (or able) to watch it as it aired - watching it tape-delayed loses some of the specialness (kinda like NBC's coverage of the Olympics).

Basically, what I'm suggesting is, maybe it was all a matter of effort to them. They liked it then when it was more laid back and less effort for them. Now that things got a bit faster paced, they couldn't/wouldn't keep up, deciding the extra effort is not worth the shows, and dropped out. So that's their limit, as far as being fans of the shows.

Mynd Hed
01-16-2003, 11:59 PM
I find it silly for anyone to be loyal to a block of television.

Well, I agree with you that we have no particular reason to be loyal to the block itself, but I think people should be loyal to the shows that they enjoy. For example, if you're a Lupin the 3rd fan, you should watch it no matter when it's on, and if its time slot isn't convenient for you, you should tape it. Unless, of course, you have the DVDs, in which case you can watch it whenever the fudge you want.

saladdays
01-17-2003, 11:17 AM
Their like me in that even if they taped it,they don't have enough free time to actually watch the tape once they get home form work and finish up all the school work.

You and your friends are in high school. How do you not have time to watch even one show that you recorded? You sound more like you're in your mid-twenties (or older) instead of your teens. You'll have a real loss of free time then.

Zyzzybalubah
01-17-2003, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by jeffrey 228
And we all know that Seniors are 18 to 19 year olds and all.

I'm a 19 year old senior and I could care less about them changing the schedule, I still love Adult Swim and will continue to watch it. Those supposed hardcore fans are phonies for not liking Adult Swim because they switched the times. I'll admit, I wish it was on earlier just because nothing else is on at that time and I get bored waiting (well PPG and Samurai Jack are cool, but I'd rather watch somethine else at the time.) I usually watch all the shows I want to watch on the weeknights no matter how late (I live in a central time zone) and if I am busy with homework or I am too tired, then I just tape it. I know younger people at my school who do the same thing.

Waggytoon
01-17-2003, 12:21 PM
I'm a 40-year old animated cartoon fan, and I've only been interested in the anime for a couple of years. I have liked a couple adventure series in my lifetime, but not too many. More often than not I go for the true classics of animation.
Anyway, the only package of 'Adult Swim' shows I watch are the mostly-worthless anime block. I do mean mostly-worthless for one reason: Those jerk short openings that rudely replaced the genuine proper correct openings!! And nowadays those jerk openings are used so the anime series can end early enough to add some sort of redubbed and reworked footage from classic shorts found on Boomerang: The Channel or that weird Watering Hole sequence. In other words, CN has placed a much bigger emphasis on their comedy lineups, while destroying the modus operandi that leads to the main anime eps themselves.
CN's turning their 'ASA' package into some sort of sophisticated Toonami! Hasn't CN realized: The genuine openings of the anime are what separate the regular daypart Toonami block from the late-night 'ASA'!! Fans of the anime are being robbed of true openings that were supposed to remain on those anime series!! At least there's still the original "Cowboy Bebop" open. But to 'ASA' fans, that will not be enough, and it never will!!
My guess is that the late-night 'ASA' won't fulfill the quotas of eps that were planned because CN may decide to make the 'Adult Swim' late-night lineup all comedy and no anime within the next month or two, the way the network's mistreated its more recent anime shows of the 'ASA'. I hope I'm wrong, and CN finally realizes they were wrong to have jerk short intros and restore all the actual openings to "Inuyasha" and "Yu Yu Hakusho" (and perhaps even "Lupin III" for those fans.) immediately, if not sooner. After all, there are fans who would like to see all the eps of those shows-including the original openings created by the studio that made the anime. And what's being done with those anime shows right now is nothing more than harassment toward 'ASA' devotees who've been tuned in for the entire year, and started feeling neglected since this past fall.
Someone let CN know that if they're going to air the 'ASA', then they're to air it with every anime featuring its original openings EXACTLY LIKE THEY DID FOR 6 GREAT MONTHS OF THE SATURDAY NIGHT VERSION OF 'ASA' BEFORE THEY TAMPERED WITH THE GENUINE PREMISE AND DESTROYED THE SATURDAY NIGHT PACKAGE!!
We despise what they've been doing, and we don't want the anime to be an also-ran in the late-night packaging thanks to those jerk openings that shouldn't have been created at all! After all, why do you think the Saturday Night version ended up ruined? At this time the new Weeknight version is headed down that same disastrous road to ruin with those short intros that aren't to exist whatsoever. And we really don't want a deja vu to occur!:mad: :bosko: :bubbles: :knd1: :knd4:

Joe Tully
01-17-2003, 12:24 PM
Anyone who watched the old Sunday schedule should be capable of catching at least the first 2 hours of the new Sunday schedule, because of the same time. So I'm a little skeptical about them dropping it altogether.

The overall ratings and demographics are what's important, anyways. You can't put that much weight into a quick poll of your high school.

Originally posted by superloud4

Nope. Actually, I've never met her. I knew her online a while back. The first week of summer vacation, she stays up an entire week with no sleep "to celebrate". Doesn't make any sense to me either, but oh well.

I think she's exaggerating just a teeny bit.

DarkMaster
01-17-2003, 04:06 PM
I sense Adult Swim flaws. Jamie has a ruthless friend.

Jamie Kellner - UPN/WB-TV (former viacom VP)
The programming decisions by the WB TV leadership seriously damaged the Cartoon Network's ability to keep a unified schedule and build on its past successes.

Herb Scannell, president of TNN (Nickelodeon and other Viacom networks) along with his boss, Tom Freston of MTV networks, decided to take the primetime block of TNN, The National Network (formerly known as The Nashville Network before Viacom acquired it during the CBS merger), and devote it to new, original animated series and repeats of Viacom animated properties which didn't fit anywhere else. And by scheduling the block to start sometime during the first 3 months of 2003 Viacom could keep its plan a secret as AOL/Time Warner obligated its resources during their Upfront Sales.

TNN is attacking the Cartoon Network in the off-season to grab viewers.

But now the Cartoon Network's most expensive time period, primetime (which doesn't attract enough of the 18-34 year olds), will mostly have repeats in competition with another network, TNN, that has new or relatively new programming geared specifically for the 18-34 year old market.

Obi
01-17-2003, 04:16 PM
Waggytoon...can you please stay on topic???

livingfruitvirus
01-17-2003, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by DarkMaster
I sense Adult Swim flaws. Jamie has a ruthless friend.

Jamie Kellner - UPN/WB-TV (former viacom VP)
The programming decisions by the WB TV leadership seriously damaged the Cartoon Network's ability to keep a unified schedule and build on its past successes.

Herb Scannell, president of TNN (Nickelodeon and other Viacom networks) along with his boss, Tom Freston of MTV networks, decided to take the primetime block of TNN, The National Network (formerly known as The Nashville Network before Viacom acquired it during the CBS merger), and devote it to new, original animated series and repeats of Viacom animated properties which didn't fit anywhere else. And by scheduling the block to start sometime during the first 3 months of 2003 Viacom could keep its plan a secret as AOL/Time Warner obligated its resources during their Upfront Sales.

TNN is attacking the Cartoon Network in the off-season to grab viewers.

But now the Cartoon Network's most expensive time period, primetime (which doesn't attract enough of the 18-34 year olds), will mostly have repeats in competition with another network, TNN, that has new or relatively new programming geared specifically for the 18-34 year old market.

are you copying and pasting stuff from Save Our Sailors?

John Miles
01-17-2003, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by Waggytoon
I'm a 40-year old animated cartoon fan, and I've only been interested in the anime for a couple of years. I have liked a couple adventure series in my lifetime, but not too many. More often than not I go for the true classics of animation.
Anyway, the only package of 'Adult Swim' shows I watch are the mostly-worthless anime block. I do mean mostly-worthless for one reason: Those jerk short openings that rudely replaced the genuine proper correct openings!! And nowadays those jerk openings are used so the anime series can end early enough to add some sort of redubbed and reworked footage from classic shorts found on Boomerang: The Channel or that weird Watering Hole sequence. In other words, CN has placed a much bigger emphasis on their comedy lineups, while destroying the modus operandi that leads to the main anime eps themselves.
CN's turning their 'ASA' package into some sort of sophisticated Toonami! Hasn't CN realized: The genuine openings of the anime are what separate the regular daypart Toonami block from the late-night 'ASA'!! Fans of the anime are being robbed of true openings that were supposed to remain on those anime series!! At least there's still the original "Cowboy Bebop" open. But to 'ASA' fans, that will not be enough, and it never will!!
My guess is that the late-night 'ASA' won't fulfill the quotas of eps that were planned because CN may decide to make the 'Adult Swim' late-night lineup all comedy and no anime within the next month or two, the way the network's mistreated its more recent anime shows of the 'ASA'. I hope I'm wrong, and CN finally realizes they were wrong to have jerk short intros and restore all the actual openings to "Inuyasha" and "Yu Yu Hakusho" (and perhaps even "Lupin III" for those fans.) immediately, if not sooner. After all, there are fans who would like to see all the eps of those shows-including the original openings created by the studio that made the anime. And what's being done with those anime shows right now is nothing more than harassment toward 'ASA' devotees who've been tuned in for the entire year, and started feeling neglected since this past fall.
Someone let CN know that if they're going to air the 'ASA', then they're to air it with every anime featuring its original openings EXACTLY LIKE THEY DID FOR 6 GREAT MONTHS OF THE SATURDAY NIGHT VERSION OF 'ASA' BEFORE THEY TAMPERED WITH THE GENUINE PREMISE AND DESTROYED THE SATURDAY NIGHT PACKAGE!!
We despise what they've been doing, and we don't want the anime to be an also-ran in the late-night packaging thanks to those jerk openings that shouldn't have been created at all! After all, why do you think the Saturday Night version ended up ruined? At this time the new Weeknight version is headed down that same disastrous road to ruin with those short intros that aren't to exist whatsoever. And we really don't want a deja vu to occur!:mad: :bosko: :bubbles: :knd1: :knd4:

You suck http://www.ezboard.com/image/emoticons_classic/laugh.gif

Masamune2052
01-17-2003, 11:35 PM
All he does is complain about the OPs and how Saturday night is gone.........

sl4
01-18-2003, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by Waggytoon
I'm a 40-year old animated cartoon fan, and I've only been interested in the anime for a couple of years. I have liked a couple adventure series in my lifetime, but not too many. More often than not I go for the true classics of animation.
Anyway, the only package of 'Adult Swim' shows I watch are the mostly-worthless anime block. I do mean mostly-worthless for one reason: Those jerk short openings that rudely replaced the genuine proper correct openings!! And nowadays those jerk openings are used so the anime series can end early enough to add some sort of redubbed and reworked footage from classic shorts found on Boomerang: The Channel or that weird Watering Hole sequence. In other words, CN has placed a much bigger emphasis on their comedy lineups, while destroying the modus operandi that leads to the main anime eps themselves.
CN's turning their 'ASA' package into some sort of sophisticated Toonami! Hasn't CN realized: The genuine openings of the anime are what separate the regular daypart Toonami block from the late-night 'ASA'!! Fans of the anime are being robbed of true openings that were supposed to remain on those anime series!! At least there's still the original "Cowboy Bebop" open. But to 'ASA' fans, that will not be enough, and it never will!!
My guess is that the late-night 'ASA' won't fulfill the quotas of eps that were planned because CN may decide to make the 'Adult Swim' late-night lineup all comedy and no anime within the next month or two, the way the network's mistreated its more recent anime shows of the 'ASA'. I hope I'm wrong, and CN finally realizes they were wrong to have jerk short intros and restore all the actual openings to "Inuyasha" and "Yu Yu Hakusho" (and perhaps even "Lupin III" for those fans.) immediately, if not sooner. After all, there are fans who would like to see all the eps of those shows-including the original openings created by the studio that made the anime. And what's being done with those anime shows right now is nothing more than harassment toward 'ASA' devotees who've been tuned in for the entire year, and started feeling neglected since this past fall.
Someone let CN know that if they're going to air the 'ASA', then they're to air it with every anime featuring its original openings EXACTLY LIKE THEY DID FOR 6 GREAT MONTHS OF THE SATURDAY NIGHT VERSION OF 'ASA' BEFORE THEY TAMPERED WITH THE GENUINE PREMISE AND DESTROYED THE SATURDAY NIGHT PACKAGE!!
We despise what they've been doing, and we don't want the anime to be an also-ran in the late-night packaging thanks to those jerk openings that shouldn't have been created at all! After all, why do you think the Saturday Night version ended up ruined? At this time the new Weeknight version is headed down that same disastrous road to ruin with those short intros that aren't to exist whatsoever. And we really don't want a deja vu to occur!:mad: :bosko: :bubbles: :knd1: :knd4:

We know the openings are gone. It sucks, we know. But it's not their fault. Either they remove the openings, or they lose hundreds of dollars every night from lost ad time. Now it seems they're just removing the openings from everything for consistency, which sucks too. But there isn't just a bunch of people who get paid to make our lives miserable. They're doing their best to make Adult Swim please the fans and not cost them hundreds of dollars in advertising money. I think they're doing a damn good job. Anyways, now that this thread has gone completely off topic...

I'm the only Adult Swim watcher in my school now. Some of them watch the first hour or so every once in a while, but I had gotten tons of kids to watch it every week. Poof, they're all gone. Ah well. I think I found another kid who still watches it through the magic of VCRs, today. I don't feel so alone anymore.

This post has been edited (sorry Joe :o ) using Edit-Vision™. Copyright 2003. All rights reserved.

Joe Tully
01-18-2003, 12:52 AM
If you have a problem with any of Waggytoon's posts, please report it to the moderators. I can't sit by and watch person after person flame him like this, even if what he says is off-topic and somewhat incoherent.

Throw it back on topic.

Zach Logan
01-18-2003, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by superloud4
I'm the only Adult Swim watcher in my school now. Some of them watch the first hour or so every once in a while, but I had gotten tons of kids to watch it every week. Poof, they're all gone. Ah well. I think I found another kid who still watches it through the magic of VCRs, today. I don't feel so alone anymore.

This post has been edited (sorry Joe :o ) using Edit-Vision™. Copyright 2003. All rights reserved.

Now what im doing is taping ASA and bringin it to our school so me and the ppl who watched ASA on saturdays can watch. :D

Can you also tell me where i can buy that Edit-Vision™? :p

HaWick
01-18-2003, 01:26 PM
I completely agreed and disagreed. For me, it's not that big deal but then i didn't watch it. THe only show i wanna watch is Inuyasha and Lupin now. It's so simple for kids like me, the schedule change, we don't watch, simply.

There are college students i know who used to watch Sat night AS, but they discontinued just because they change the schedule. They need sleep dou....how can students sleep 3 hours and be look normal the next morning. How can you expect people(i'm saying 18-30 years of age) to stay up when they got to wake up early and go to college or work the next day? this is just plain stupid, i mean, i'm not watching AS now just cause my parents doesn't let me stay up. i know that sounds lame but this is our life.....what i wanna say is, AS lost many fans and gradually the ratings gonna be very low.

Chibi Kageboshi
01-18-2003, 02:15 PM
There are college students i know who used to watch Sat night AS, but they discontinued just because they change the schedule. They need sleep dou....how can students sleep 3 hours and be look normal the next morning. How can you expect people(i'm saying 18-30 years of age) to stay up when they got to wake up early and go to college or work the next day? this is just plain stupid, i mean, i'm not watching AS now just cause my parents doesn't let me stay up. i know that sounds lame but this is our life.....what i wanna say is, AS lost many fans and gradually the ratings gonna be very low.

Obviously we know completely opposite people because every i know thats in college or an adult stay up VERY late and go to work VERY early. And if your parents are still telling you when to go to sleep... well... Cartoon Network doesnt want you watching the show, that was the whole plan.

Killtacular
01-18-2003, 02:31 PM
If you go to sleep after Inuyasha, you would still be getting at least 6 hours of sleep if you had school at 8 am. Most college students have classes at 8:30 am to 9 am, so for most of us, we're getting the same amount of sleep either way. If I wasn't watching Adult Swim, I'd just be watching Conan O' Brien and I'd get to sleep just as late.

JetMaster5
01-18-2003, 04:18 PM
I think I could see why people are turned off of AS. It's because ASC is nothing but reruns of reruns. There's no point in watching it on Sundays anymore (except of Futurama).

On weekdays, you get semi-new Futurama and an old rerun Home Movies to kick off the block. It's somewhat exciting and non-exciting at the same time.

But who cares, I got tapes, I got my VCR, I know a few classmates in my school that still watches Adult Swim, I know around 10 middle schoolers who still watches Adult Swim (Your plan's not working well, William Street) that either had someone tape it for them or watches it secretly, late at night, low volume on.

Gruntling
01-18-2003, 04:27 PM
Unfortunately I live in Arizona which is in the Mountain Time Zone, causing AS shows to be aired an hour later. This means the only show that I still watch on AS, Inu Yasha, is shown at 1:30am. Its entirely too late for me. I have already missed one episode, because I fell asleep waiting for it. I get up at 6:00am, so I have just a little less than 4 hours to sleep. Its too strenuous... I'm lucky I have a timer to record the show or else I would probably have to stop watching Adult Swim.

HomeMoviesFan
01-18-2003, 04:50 PM
Wow. This reminds me of the stupid idiots who use computers at my school to play games at the Adult Swim site but have never seen the block! Anyways...this thread got a little too off-topic and then suddenly swerved on-topic again. I decide to keep it still on-topic. Well, I'm 16 (This September I'm 17!) and I've enjoyed Adult Swim from when it premiered (I was coming to be 15). The whole "Adults Only" thing is obviously just something to keep the little kids away, and teens would only get busted if their parents cared about what they watched. I've ignored it. I mean, at least human beings are watching the block and keeping it alive...that's all what makes me happy...who cares who watches Adult Swim? At least it is on!...

Skynet2029
01-18-2003, 04:57 PM
im in highschool (16) and i just got used to just using my vcr. Not much of a problem for me now takes getting used to. Heh and i love that i skip the commercials (heh think about it they are loosing money from people fast forwarding through the ads.)

Master Moron
01-18-2003, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by Matt Wilson
If you go to sleep after Inuyasha, you would still be getting at least 6 hours of sleep if you had school at 8 am. Most college students have classes at 8:30 am to 9 am, so for most of us, we're getting the same amount of sleep either way. If I wasn't watching Adult Swim, I'd just be watching Conan O' Brien and I'd get to sleep just as late.

That's crazy! I don't have classes till the afternoon! I always get about 10 hours of sleep a day.

HaWick
01-19-2003, 12:16 PM
don't foget everyone's schedule is the same. some people go to school at 4 in the morning.

HaWick
01-19-2003, 12:18 PM
i mean not the same......excuse me.


anyway......we can't do anything about it anymore.....cus the schedule is changed. so..

Zedizded
01-19-2003, 01:15 PM
I like the new way they do it. I like Home Movies and Futurama, so I don't mind those reruns too much.

Sunday is a waste because it's nothing BUT reruns and shows lose their charm after the third airing for me. I've never watched Inuyasha or Lupin on saturdays. I'm an anime fan, but I wont go so far as to call myself otaku.

When AS saturday was on I never really tuned in becasue on a scale of "1 to 10" I give Yu Yu Hakusho a "f(beep)k you". I simply can't sit awake no matter how hard I try or how many coca-colas I drink I just can't keep my eyes open and I never really have time to watch tapes so I don't record them.

While I still haven't watched Inuyasha I find myself drifting to sleep during Lupin, though I like it alot. It truely belongs on a block like AS. They should just put Yu Yu on toonammi (But that would be like watching Dragonball twice) and stick to stuff like Lupin and Cowboy Bebop. I wish I could stay up past twelve. My brain just seems to be programmed to shut down at 12.

sl4
01-19-2003, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by Zedizded
I like the new way they do it. I like Home Movies and Futurama, so I don't mind those reruns too much.

Sunday is a waste because it's nothing BUT reruns and shows lose their charm after the third airing for me. I've never watched Inuyasha or Lupin on saturdays. I'm an anime fan, but I wont go so far as to call myself otaku.

When AS saturday was on I never really tuned in becasue on a scale of "1 to 10" I give Yu Yu Hakusho a "f(beep)k you". I simply can't sit awake no matter how hard I try or how many coca-colas I drink I just can't keep my eyes open and I never really have time to watch tapes so I don't record them.

While I still haven't watched Inuyasha I find myself drifting to sleep during Lupin, though I like it alot. It truely belongs on a block like AS. They should just put Yu Yu on toonammi (But that would be like watching Dragonball twice) and stick to stuff like Lupin and Cowboy Bebop. I wish I could stay up past twelve. My brain just seems to be programmed to shut down at 12.

Yu Yu Hakusho would never work on Toonami. In many cases, things like smoking and drinking, which are not allowed on Toonami, are important to the story. I've only seen up to episode 25, but I've heard that the Dark Tournament saga has many things that would need to be edited out, but would end up destroying the entire storyline because of their removal. Don't quote me on that, though, as I don't have any proof to back it up, that's just what I've heard. :-\

Blue
01-19-2003, 03:34 PM
Thay sell the edited versions right? wonder what thoses would look like.

Oh ya hey when dose the new yyh premire?

Killtacular
01-19-2003, 04:51 PM
They don't make editted tapes anymore, probably because the content is too important to edit.

JetMaster5
01-19-2003, 05:49 PM
While I still haven't watched Inuyasha I find myself drifting to sleep during Lupin, though I like it alot. It truely belongs on a block like AS.

It's interesting that you say that Lupin belongs in AS block. After watching Lupin, I came to the conclusion that Lupin the Third shouldn't be on Adult Swim. Why? Because it's a comedy-fun. A comedy where anyone can watch for fun and hilarity of it (including kids). Putting it on AS block limits this series to make it seem like it's for adults only even though it's not.

The Landstander
01-19-2003, 06:22 PM
lupin the third is a comedy? (i'm ignorant to any ASA show)

JetMaster5
01-19-2003, 07:22 PM
Well, it seems more comedic, than action. :shrugs:

Beat
01-19-2003, 07:29 PM
So what's going on with their ratings right now? So far I've heard good things for everything. Is that wrong?

Zedizded
01-22-2003, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by jetwing5
It's interesting that you say that Lupin belongs in AS block. After watching Lupin, I came to the conclusion that Lupin the Third shouldn't be on Adult Swim. Why? Because it's a comedy-fun. A comedy where anyone can watch for fun and hilarity of it (including kids). Putting it on AS block limits this series to make it seem like it's for adults only even though it's not.

Perhaps that's just a matter of opinion. I think the show's sense of humor is more adult in nature. Also I think Lupin has a charm that appeals more to older people, like the music and the themes, all the different locations around the world, things like that that would go over most young children's heads. But I see where you're coming from.

The Landstander
01-22-2003, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by Beatdigga
So what's going on with their ratings right now? So far I've heard good things for everything. Is that wrong?

i heard from an unofficial source that home movies ratings are up (i dont think the guy was lying, though). i remember hearing that futurama was doing well too. not sure about action or ASC Sunday.

MothMonsterMan
01-23-2003, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by DrWeird
lupin the third is a comedy? (i'm ignorant to any ASA show)

I was once like you. and while I still don't watch yu yu or inu or any of that, Lupin is really, really good

PluribusFinn
01-23-2003, 07:56 PM
I was once like you. and while I still don't watch yu yu or inu or any of that, Lupin is really, really good

i second that. i never watch yu yu or inuyasha but lupin is quickly becoming my favorite current AS show with new ep's. you just gotta love the exquisite pun humor on that show. "anyone can set a trap, but it takes real skill to bait. and pops is a master at baiting."

Sketch
01-23-2003, 08:13 PM
I'm a senior and I don't have the time or energy to stay up to watch AS on weeknights, but I'm not gonna pout over it. I'll just wait till summer and watch the reruns. I might tape Trigun when it airs though.