Reviews: "Lupin III" (Series 2) - Week One [1/13 - 1/16]

[livingfruitvirus]

It's adult Swim's newest series: Lupin III! Technically it's the second series, but it's the first batch of episodes we're seeing. So kick back, relax, hop into bed and watch it while falling asleep even. But here's what's on this week.

1/13 - Return of Lupin III [1]
1/14 - Buns, Guns, and Fun in the Sun [2]
1/15 - 50 Ways to Leave Your 50 Foot Lover [5]
1/16 - Gold Smuggling 101 [4]

Confusing enough?

I'd also like to point out that if you're not a moderator, do not make a review thread. Only Joe, myself, Calhoun07, Matthew Williams and CookieS are obligated to do so. If however, the show is over and a review thread has yet to show, then users are permitted to make a thread, since we're probably not around.

Thanks. :)

[MothMonsterMan]

I, for one am looking forward to Lupin. Have to get the VCR ready though.

[Achika]

What is this, the Toonami board? Only new shows get seperate review topics?

And here I thought no one wanted AS to be treated like Toonami.

[KingKoopa]

There was a poll on what review style to use, and this won. Post your other reviews in the "anything else" thread.

[Achika]

I never saw that poll so could you post a link to it? I'd like to see just who all are the double-talkers that voted for this.

[sl4]

Originally posted by Achika
I never saw that poll so could you post a link to it? I'd like to see just who all are the double-talkers that voted for this.

With Adult Swim on weeknights, it's the only way it would work without tons of threads. If we did a seperate thread for each night, people would want seperate threads for action and comedy. If we just did a seperate thread for the week's worth of action and the week's worth of comedy, people would want seperate threads for each day. See where I'm coming from? I didn't like this setup at first, but it looks to me like it's the only way to go.

[Achika]

You do one thread for each night. Comedy and Action are no longer seperated on CN and thus there's no reason they should be seperated here any longer. I wish I'd seen the poll sooner when I could have maybe talked some sense into these people.

[KingKoopa]

Originally posted by Achika
I never saw that poll so could you post a link to it? I'd like to see just who all are the double-talkers that voted for this. One link coming up.

http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?postid=585221#post585221

[AinaMacil]

Well, I've decided to forgo an hour's worth of sleep, and catch LupinIII and Inu Yasha. I'm glad they put the new stuff on at a sane time. Can't wait to see Lupin, as from what everyone says, it's extremely funny.

[Infinity Blade]

Originally posted by Achika
You do one thread for each night. Comedy and Action are no longer seperated on CN and thus there's no reason they should be seperated here any longer. I wish I'd seen the poll sooner when I could have maybe talked some sense into these people.

I'd honestly rather be able to talk about a week's worth of one show in one topic than have to go from topic to topic to talk about it, going with a method like you mentioned. In my opinion, at least.

[William C. Maune]

[indent]I can see why people would want some things treated differently with AS on Toonami, but what's the point of making sure everything is different? If it works one place, why not another. For the record, when I first started posting Talkback threads on the Toonami board I pretty much adapted them from the format used on the World's Finest boards. They have since adapted over time depending on what we needed.

[Killtacular]

Guys. The poll happened. Complaining about it now is worthless, because this is what people want. You should've made your case back then.

Anyway.

Another ad aired for Action, with the same look as the Lupin ad. It's safe to say that that's how the entire block looks.

[Crimefighter]

RATED G ???

[Killtacular]

Mistake as usual.

[Iridium128]

I guess they screwed-up on the rating again (Unless this particular episode is rated G, which I very highly doubt...).

[KingKoopa]

I'm more ticked about a certain opening that was apparently cut.

[Nabuca]

Originally posted by Crimefighter
RATED G ???
It wouldnt be Adult Swim without Williams Street making a ratings mistake. No worries, it is obviously not TV G. Anyway, finally some Lupin III on US TV.

[Moof]

Anamation style is.....diffrent...

[Killtacular]

I do miss the opening. But I love the writing in this show. I was afraid of what they'd do when they said they'd "modernize" it. It's pretty smart and clever though.

Zenigata's voice is a little cheesy, but the other characters are well matched.

Perhaps WS didn't use the OP because it was too 70s-ish.. much like Mobile Suit Gundam's case..

[KingKoopa]

Originally posted by Matt Wilson
I do miss the opening. But I love the writing in this show. I was afraid of what they'd do when they said they'd "modernize" it. It's pretty smart and clever though.

Zenigata's voice is a little cheesy, but the other characters are well matched.

Perhaps WS didn't use the OP because it was too 70s-ish.. much like Mobile Suit Gundam's case.. Possibly, but I stick to my old theory. They DO cut the OPs for time, they just can't further edit the shows than the aired versions, so they couldn't remove the OPs from Bebop or Yu Yu Hakusho. Everything else on AS didn't have the OP on the same tape, so they aired seperately, and were able to be cut. However, when editing Lupin, they were able to just cut the OP like any other time cut.

[Killtacular]

Perhaps, but I wonder if CN was waiting until now to remove ALL the OPs.

I know, scary thought, but it's possible.

[KingKoopa]

Originally posted by Matt Wilson
Perhaps, but I wonder if CN was waiting until now to remove ALL the OPs.

I know, scary thought, but it's possible. The same thing ran through my head. Whatever, we'll see in 40 minutes.

[KingKoopa]

The credits were only 15 seconds long. Either they were very short in the original, or they shortened them G-Gundam style. Looks like it WAS for time purposes, no avoiding it now.

[i miss katy]

just watched the first episode. Ah, now this is going to be fun. What a perfect bridge from the comedy hour to the action block. A great tongue-in-cheek combo of action and comedy, with sizzling 70's-action-style music and a killer theme. I can't yet figure out if the Speed Racerish look is a plus or a negative, but I do know that I sure did enjoy the show. Now I'll have to watch it every night.

[Daisuke Jigen]

OMG!

It made my sex fall out!

They kept in Lupins lecherous attitude, the moderate swearing, the talk of drunkeness, the innuendo, and most of all, the way Lupin refers to Zenigata as "pops"!

We even got the original music!

This so kicked my faces ass, and rocked it like it was a hooker cocaine party on crack!

[wrenchien]

i didn't like very much the twisted art.

or the overexaggeration.

or the murder of a serpent in that fashion.

A SERPENT!

or seeing the wtc depicted in a cartoon , being reminded of its existence even in cartoons hurts so much even if it was years ago before the terrorists attacks.

i know tokyo pig's not the best animated.

but by god it's a lot better animated than this, no matter how many years seperate tokyo pig and this .

i'm sorry i cannot say anything nice or positive about this :(

i'm... sorry.

[Daisuke Jigen]

You're kidding, right? :rolleyes:

[Killtacular]

Sorry that morals and annoyed stereotypes blind your enjoyment. Do you think people complained about animation quality in the 70s?

[PeppeRaskell1]

As I watched "Lupin III" tonight, I felt a strange sense of deja vu. I'd seen Lupin and the mustached guy in the hat (I'm not so good with character names right now!) before, in a video game from the 80's called "Cliff Hanger." (I played it once, but I never got past the bank heist stage.) They were trying to help a girl, dressed in a bridal gown, driving a Citroen. And that's about all I can remember.

And does anyone remember the name of the samurai warrior guy?
It probably ain't Jack, but he could fill a fundoshi just as well!

"Will the Princess be forced to marry a man she can't stand?"--from the Cliff Hanger video game

[rickster]

Now, this show is awesome. It reminds me so much of Cowboy Bebop. Or should i say that the other way around since Lupin came first. THis show just screams style. I love it. Two favorite parts:

1. When Lupin was parachuting in and they froze the frame, wrote his name on the screen and year hear all the lady singers sing "Lupin the Third!". That was very stylish.

2. When Ishikawa says somethign like a disturbance rises from deep within me

[wrenchien]

like i said, i'm sorry matt. don't get me wrong, i laugh at south park, beavis and butthead, even ultimate muscle kikkuman legacy. and in dark comedies i think but this cartoon was just something i couldn't laugh at. sorry.
I know a lot of cartoons in the 70's weren't as great animation wise as the other ones , as the technology to animate now just wasn't there. but even so quite a few anime toons in the 70's from japan i've managed to see, were better. even heidi.. and god knows how predictable that one is knowing where it is based from so exacting...:/

anyway, take it as you will . :(

[Arde]

Well...the first ep for Lupin 3rd didn't really 'wow' me.
Although the writing was okay, the dubbing sounds weird and some of the jokes are kinda silly nowadays (Zenigata on the turtle). The animation is kinda also stilted on some places, so even for old animation it wasn't the best. And the voice of the villain Scorpion was a little too much, maybe they're trying to match the original Jap voice but it doesn't work nowadays...
However, the first ep does what it should do, it showed and gave us some information on all the important characters in the ep.

So... the first ep worked on the base level but wasn't enjoyable enough to merit the series' hype.
2.5/5 for this ep.

[Moof]

The only thing that threw me off was the animation. But other then that, it was great

[Joe Tully]

Originally posted by PeppeRaskell1

And does anyone remember the name of the samurai warrior guy?
It probably ain't Jack, but he could fill a fundoshi just as well!

His name is Goemon. :)

[Sir Gatts]

Monday: G rating? Well there wasn't anything warranting a higher rating, well except the firearms, Lupin's bandage scene, and that guy with the turtle :eek: Somehow the automobiles in this episode seem to defy gravity; driving up walls that is. It's like James Bond all over again. :cool:

[Killtacular]

Don't forget all the language, the smoking, the drinking, and the killing.

[Sheamon]

Well, after finally seeing an episode of the infamous Lupin I can't say I'm not a little dissappointed. Then again, its only one episode, certainly not enough to judge a show on. I actually thought the dub was done quite well. Being a big fan of 70's/80's anime I've got no problem with the animation. And the influences for Bebop was certainly there. But the plot and villain simply didn't cut it. Oh well. Here's looking forward to tomorrow.

Grade: C

[Arxane]

So tonight was the premiere of "Lupin the III" on TV. After watching the first episode, I've got one thing to say: it lives up to its hype.

Yes, it's cheesy. Yes, the animation looks about as stilted as "Mobile Suit Gundam". But seriously, this show was a blast, a great merging between the comedy and action blocks. Memorable characters, witty humor, and kick-ass action. And I was quite impressed with the dub. I'm not sure how to compare it to other dubs, but it's certainly good enough for me. I forgot that Rick Hunter was Lupin until the credits rolled. Great job.

Sure, it's not for everyone, but I give it a solid A. Definitely something I'll be watching as often as I can.

[rickster]

Oops, forgot to give my rating. Well what can i say? I love Lupin's style. I thought it was great. IMO, the best anime since Bebop on Adult Swim.

Episode Rating: A

[Ragnarok]

I loved every second of it. Will defiantaly be watching every episode this show screams brillance to me but thats only my opinion.

Ragnarok OUT

[JTurner954]

I originally posted this in the "Anything Else" forum since there was no Lupin talkback thread at the time so that is why my comments are late.

Lupin the 3rd: Wow, I'm impressed. The animation is very pleasing to the eyes and not trying to be super-spectacular (it's definitetely from the 70's). Each character is very different in personality which shows that this show can become a favorite of mine. The show has DBZ-ish humor which I am very happy with since it helps lessen the waiting of having DBZ restart from the beginning. I anxiously look forward to the next episode.

Overall grade: B+

[rickster]

Originally posted by arxane
I forgot that Rick Hunter was Lupin until the credits rolled. Great job.


Thanks for telling me. I knew that voice sounded really familiar.

[Dogasu]

Loved it tonight :D I wish the first series had been shown first (seeing as how the villain was obviously one from the older series, and how everyone knew everyone else beforehand), but I'll take what I can get.

I did notice some bouncing paint here and there--one time with Fujiko's cigarette, and another time with one of the character's champagne glasses. Are these the digital layovers that Pioneer did for the DVD's to avoid legal issues, or am I just seeing things?

OMG!

It made my sex fall out!

They kept in Lupins lecherous attitude, the moderate swearing, the talk of drunkeness, the innuendo, and most of all, the way Lupin refers to Zenigata as "pops"!

We even got the original music!

This so kicked my faces ass, and rocked it like it was a hooker cocaine party on crack!

You were expecting CN to pull a Cardcaptors on us or something? I think it's to be expected now that CN keep the original Japanese music and whatnot for their shows. And with Adult Swim, you're not gonna have everybody drinking tea and going on dates. It's Kids' WB! and Fox and all those other networks that ya gotta watch out for.

I can't yet figure out if the Speed Racerish look is a plus or a negative, but I do know that I sure did enjoy the show. Now I'll have to watch it every night.

I liked it, but then again, I also liked Speed Racer. I mean sure, if you get past the shaky dubbing of Speed Racer, ignore all the 60's campiness, and just focus on the plot, then you'll find "Mach Go Go Go" (the Japanese name for Speed Racer) to be a very cool show.

The dubbing for Lupin the Third did get a little Speed Racer-ish at times (especially for Lupin, who was just trying as hard as he could to cram everything he could into every sentence), but I guess that's just the nature of things.

I also hated the way that there wasn't a single character in the show who pronounced Lupin's name correctly. :rolleyes:

Overall, a great show, and I look forward to it every night. Shoot, I was looking forward to this more than tonight's Inu-Yasha :eek:

[Artemis]

Originally posted by Sheamon
Well, after finally seeing an episode of the infamous Lupin I can't say I'm not a little dissappointed. Then again, its only one episode, certainly not enough to judge a show on. I actually thought the dub was done quite well. Being a big fan of 70's/80's anime I've got no problem with the animation. And the influences for Bebop was certainly there. But the plot and villain simply didn't cut it. Oh well. Here's looking forward to tomorrow.

Grade: C

I don't know too much about Lupin, but you're not expecting too much are you? It's a fun kooky show, not a thought-provoking Bebop-like drama. Appreciate it for what it is.

[i miss katy]

Originally posted by PeppeRaskell1
I'd seen Lupin and the mustached guy in the hat (I'm not so good with character names right now!) before, in a video game from the 80's called "Cliff Hanger."


holy meatwad, now THERE'S a blast from the past. I had COMPLETELY forgotten about that game. It was one of the laser disc games, right? Like Dragon's Lair. I never played any of them (I was but a wee lad at the time, better suited to games like skee-ball), but used to just watch the intros for them all the time.

I just found a website about laser disc arcade games and sure enough, Cliff Hanger used animation from Lupin III, mostly from the movie Castle of Cagliostro. How about that.

[rickster]

Originally posted by Artemis
I don't know too much about Lupin, but you're not expecting too much are you? It's a fun kooky show, not a thought-provoking Bebop-like drama. Appreciate it for what it is.

Yet, Bebop borrowed so much from the show. How ironic. :p

[Sprocket]

Originally posted by PeppeRaskell1
As I watched "Lupin III" tonight, I felt a strange sense of deja vu. I'd seen Lupin and the mustached guy in the hat (I'm not so good with character names right now!) before, in a video game from the 80's called "Cliff Hanger." (I played it once, but I never got past the bank heist stage.) They were trying to help a girl, dressed in a bridal gown, driving a Citroen. And that's about all I can remember.

And does anyone remember the name of the samurai warrior guy?
It probably ain't Jack, but he could fill a fundoshi just as well!

If you want to see where 'Cliff Hanger' came from, you can pick up 'The Castle of Cagliostro' DVD in most stores(Be warned though, they curse like sailors in the dub. Yes, even worse than in the TV show. Which is strange, considering that the original Japanese script didn't have a single curse in it). They took most of the footage from that movie. It was the second Lupin the 3rd movie, released in 1980. It was directed by Hayao Miyazaki, and thus has a MUCH different feel than what you watched tonight. Basically, it takes the characters, tones down their behavior and the zany designs, and puts them in a story that they wouldn't normally be involved in, namely rescuing a princess from a count.

'The Castle of Cagliostro' isn't bad, that's for sure, it's fantastic, but it's different. The Lupin the 3rd TV series is at least closer to what Kazuhiko Kato, aka Monkey Punch, Lupin the 3rd creator had in mind for the characters, although it's a bit more zany.

And that's Goemon Ishikawa the 13th, decendant of a samurai that was the equivalent of Robin Hood in Japan, before eventually being captured and boiled in oil.

[Lupin the Wolf]

Lupin's name WAS pronounced correctly for the entirety of the program. Previous attempts at his name have been horribly butchered into "loo-pin" (Streamline Pictures and even FUNimation's new dubs).

"Loo-pawn" is correct.

It's a French name, based on a series of novels made by a "Maurice Leblanc" about a gentleman burglar named "Arsene Lupin"

http://www.LupintheThird.net/faq.htm

^ A little history about Lupin's name ^

[Moof]

Originally posted by Lupin the Wolf
Lupin's name WAS pronounced correctly for the entirety of the program. Previous attempts at his name have been horribly butchered into "loo-pin" (Streamline Pictures and even FUNimation's new dubs).

"Loo-pawn" is correct.

It's a French name, based on a series of novels made by a "Maurice Leblanc" about a gentleman burglar named "Arsene Lupin"

http://www.LupintheThird.net/faq.htm

^ A little history about Lupin's name ^

Funny, i thought it was "loo-pin". I acctualy thought they got it wrong :D

[Lupin the Wolf]

You're not the first ;) It's cool.

Actually, I was thrilled to pieces to see that Pioneer got it right when they previewed the dub at Anime Expo, following in suit of Animaze's/Manga Video's recent "Cagliostro" English dub.

[TnAdct1]

Originally posted by PeppeRaskell1
As I watched "Lupin III" tonight, I felt a strange sense of deja vu. I'd seen Lupin and the mustached guy in the hat (I'm not so good with character names right now!) before, in a video game from the 80's called "Cliff Hanger." (I played it once, but I never got past the bank heist stage.) They were trying to help a girl, dressed in a bridal gown, driving a Citroen. And that's about all I can remember.


To start off, about the video game Cliff Hanger: the game uses footage from the first two Lupin III movies, specifically Castle of Cagliostro, which was directed by the same guy behind Spirited Away. Thus, that explains the deja vu.

As for the series itself, two complaints about the CN version:

1. The CN-produced OP being used instead of the original OP, although CN did a wise choice of doing to closing credits like G Gundam, which uses music and footage from the OP (o/` Lupin the 3rd, Lupin the 3rd o/`).

2. It's pronouced Go-E-Mon.

Other than that, it's great that Lupin III '78 is on American TV. Today's episode introduces us to the five main characters and also makes reference to the original series with the villain whose trying to kill our "heroes" (I think I saw the end of the episode that today's villain was originally in raw at Animazement last year). It also gives you an idea of the combination of action and comedy that makes Lupin III such an enjoyable show IMO.

Joe Klemm

[Lupin the Wolf]

-"The New Lupin the Third" (TV) began in 1977 (not '78, but another version of the theme song was introduced in '78, called "Theme of Lupin the Third '78," which may be where you got that year).
-It's pronounced "Go-AY-mohn EESH-ka-wa," but no English dub has ever gotten it right (the closest it has ever been was "Go-AY-*mawn*").
Sorry for the lack of formalities in my corrections, I'm just a stickler for accuracy. :)

And yes, it is a very fun episode. If you liked it, you should enjoy the rest of the series very much.

I wonder if Jesus' monologue will be edited from the end of Episode 2....?

[Daisuke Jigen]

Originally posted by PeppeRaskell1
As I watched "Lupin III" tonight, I felt a strange sense of deja vu. I'd seen Lupin and the mustached guy in the hat (I'm not so good with character names right now!) before, in a video game from the 80's called "Cliff Hanger." (I played it once, but I never got past the bank heist stage.) They were trying to help a girl, dressed in a bridal gown, driving a Citroen. And that's about all I can remember.

And does anyone remember the name of the samurai warrior guy?
It probably ain't Jack, but he could fill a fundoshi just as well!

I got the chance to play Cliff Hanger last August at the Classic Gaming Expo in Las Vegas. Believe you me when I tell you it was one of the greatest moments in all my Lupin fandom. In fact, I'm going again this year, just so I can play all the way through it.

[Lupin the Wolf]

Someone sent me a tape of all the footage on that Cliff Hanger Laserdisc....interesting stuff. It actually used audio from 3 different dubs:

1)The Japanese dub of "Castle of Cagliostro"
2)The English dub of "Mystery of Mamo" that was made ca. 1978.
3)Random English voice-overs inserted by the programmers.

Suppoedly the company that produced the LD (Stern Electronics) as well as their licensors (TMS Entertainment, etc.) are now unaware the game ever even existed.

Interesting, no?

[IWDP Lim]

So this is Lupin huh? VERY nice. I think the animation fits the show PERFECTLY, and the diolouge is good too.

As for the rating being G, you know what? WHO CARES?! Yeesh, in one of the genereal Adult Swim promos they go on about how the block's for smart, sophicated animation or something, so if it actually fits into that, then who cares if it's rated G or M? Tha'ts like complaining that Lawrence of Arabia is a good movie, but why is it rated G if it's all serious and whatever. If it wasn't for whatever ssenator(s) got lobbied by whatever groups for ratings on TV shows, we wouldn't even be complaining. So, bah, if it's rated G or 14, the only thing that even matters in the end is that it's a good show, and after this, if every other ep is rated G-PG, well, I think we know the ratings aren't even gonna matter then huh?

Anyway, one other thing, what's up with all the huge...tracks of land on the show? Yeesh. Anyway, just bring on more of this thing already. A+

[Charred Knight]

Originally posted by wrenchien


or seeing the wtc depicted in a cartoon , being reminded of its existence even in cartoons hurts so much even if it was years ago before the terrorists attacks.



So you never have to remember the tragedy go jump off a bridge.

It was over a year ago get over it, theirs tons of **** worse than the Terrorist attacks.

Get out of your fantasy world where everyone share's hands and get in the real world.

[SSDDR]

As a person whos seen the entire first season, and a lot of movies, id have to say as far as lupin episodes go, this one was fairly mediocre. "Which of the Third Generation Will Win!" is Probably the best episode ive seen, but its a close tie with "One Chance to Breakout". Im excited to see how the pace picks up though (and the scene with the racecars being blown up is directly from the first episode of the first series, and he defeats Mr X in almost the exact same way. Water+Electricity=Victory. Rick hunter as lupin is gonna take some getting used to though... and im surprised how much goemon retained his odd sayings. Good times ahead! Theres a great episode guide at http://www.lupinencyclopedia.com/ if you wanna try to catch up with how they all got together, the episodes where lupin and goemon become friends are priceless. IMO the older animation looked better, but thats a minor gripe.

[Sacos]

I loved it! :D I didn't have any problems with the animation since that was how MP drew Lupin anyway. All in all it looks like the show will be great. A+

[Nexus810]

Back on the topic of the name i noticed that when they spelt Lupin out in Japanese (in hte beginning and such) they did spell it (R)Lupan. Those wacky French who dont know how to pronunciate Is hehe.


Good show : () cant wait for more.

[Mackenzie Rainelle]

^^ Not bad at all. I had several good laughs, particularly at Jigen's one-liners. And the "memorial" for Zenigata was great!

[Dogasu]

Lupin's name WAS pronounced correctly for the entirety of the program. Previous attempts at his name have been horribly butchered into "loo-pin" (Streamline Pictures and even FUNimation's new dubs).

"Loo-pawn" is correct.

It's a French name, based on a series of novels made by a "Maurice Leblanc" about a gentleman burglar named "Arsene Lupin"

The last part should've been more nasal. It should be more like "Loo-pahn," not "Loo-pawn." The way they said it in the dub, they gave a really southern-US drawl to the end of the name, which isn't the way it's supposed to be.

"Loo-pin"...yeah, that's flat-out wrong :D Even though the women who sing the show's theme pronounces it "Loo-pin the Thiiiir~d!" are mispronouncing it.

[talibancity]

It was pretty good, I was half asleep the whole time though. It was alright, not what I expected. I like the animation especially, it's not all high-tech and digitized and everything. But RATED G, they were saying damnit. The children are eternally scarred. :rolleyes:

I kinda like the name "Loo-pin" better. "Loo-pawn" just doesn't sound right for a burglar. And he's not really French, like in the novels. If he is, they're portraying him horribly.

[PeppeRaskell1]

Originally posted by Joe Tully
His name is Goemon. :)

Thank you.

[JeffTMBG]

Originally posted by talibancity
And he's not really French, like in the novels. If he is, they're portraying him horribly.

No, but his name is.

Nice premier. This isn't my favorite episode in the series by a long shot, but I did enjoy seeing it dubbed. Mister X seemed miscast though. I can't see him with that same voice in the first series episode he appears in.

Grade: B

[Chris Wood]

Well, at long last Lupin (that's Roo-pan) makes his American debut. It took over 30 years, but no matter. It was worth the wait.

Episode 1 review:
A pretty average story for Lupin, but then time constraints force the TV plots to be a lot simpler than the movie plots. Some pretty good humor, although it was probably MUCH funnier with the original actors. It was weird seeing so much of Jigen's eyes, which are almost never seen in the movies.

Dubbing review:
Sigh. Well, I suppose you can't expect too much, but it was still rather a letdown. The humor lost a lot of steam due to weak delivery. They should have simplified the dialogue more to avoid everyone frantically rushing to squeeze their lines in. None of the dub actors had enough energy.

Lupin:
I know it's next to impossible to do Lupin's voice justice, but this Rick Hunter guy really didn't come close. Sounds too dorky.

Jigen:
Good enough, but should sound more gruff and masculine. Pretty lazy delivery.

Fujiko:
A bit too vanilla. She's supposed to sound sexy and seductive.

Goemon:
Good enough.

Zenigata:
A bit weak. Voice should be a bit gruffer, and needs a lot more energy.

Ah, well. You get what you pay for I suppose. Anyway, it's still fun to watch. If you enjoy it I recommend you seek out the subbed version though.

[candy17]

Originally posted by Moof
Anamation style is.....diffrent...

The animation to Lupin the III looks like a mix of Dragonball and Mobile Suit Gundam.

[Nin-Nin69]

If anything need to be changed about the show it should be the dub cast. It sounds crazy, but you should actually go find some good talent rather than the first people you encounter in the waiting room. Lupin VA = Rick Hunter VA!? You have got to be kidding me? :eek: This should've went to Funi right away since they're doing the TV Movies.

And why was this rated G? You saw lots of gunfights, blood, plenty of explosions, adult situations, inappropriate language, and even a few dead bodies. If this is G then a TV-14 episode of Lupin III would be TV-MA or worse. :p

[Karl Olson]

Lupin the 3rd - Though it was a little jarring to just be throw right into it with only minimal introductions, it didn't take to long to get into the swing of things. Some of more slapsticky humor I really found to be funny. It's definetly a great lead in to the action side of the block because it's got plenty of comedy to go along with the action.

The animation, though older looking, works pretty well. I personally prefer older animation that looks a little jerky or grainy rather than some of the stuff that's been digitally composited and painted, because that stuff can look just as cheesy, if not cheesier (particularly in zoom ins and pans).

The voice acting was pretty good, and wasn't noticably off, atleast to me.

The music, though definetely very 70's, had some very cool parts (that little loop that played during an exterior shot of the ship was really cool in a "this-should-be-sampled-for-use-in-electronic-music" way.)

I give it a B.

[.hack//Tsukasa]

this was my first time seeing lupin. in the show it made refrences to events in the past. was that a previous anime with lupin in it? or just made up for the sake of giving the bad guy motive? btw Lupin the 3rd '78 on MANIC dubbles is so fun in DDR 5th mix.

[Czar Gato]

Hmmm... not bad, if I do say so myself. I wasn't too incredibly excited about this show when they announced its arrival to AS, but it totally exceeded my expectations. The only problem I had was with the dubbing, but I'll definitly be looking forward to seeing the next episode. A-

[Killtacular]

If anything need to be changed about the show it should be the dub cast. It sounds crazy, but you should actually go find some good talent rather than the first people you encounter in the waiting room. Lupin VA = Rick Hunter VA!? You have got to be kidding me? This should've went to Funi right away since they're doing the TV Movies.

I wish I knew why people were criticizing the dub so much. I thought the voices fit. The only voice actor who couldn't pass the test was Goemon. That's it. I can't say I've seen the sub, but I've seen far worse dubs, especially on CN.

And besides that, the writing in the english adaption is terrific. Most companies (especially Pioneer) would be content to just give the show a basic translation and hope that otaku chuckle a couple of times, but Fuse Entertainment/Media Concepts actually did a great job of modernizing the script and giving the characters great personality. Goemon has a couple of goofy stereotypical lines, but everyone else is fine.

[jeffrey 228]

I say this series first episode is going to get a B+ since the animation some what almost reminds me of DBZ, but but the rest is ok.

[candy17]

Originally posted by Nin-Nin69
[B]If anything need to be changed about the show it should be the dub cast. It sounds crazy, but you should actually go find some good talent rather than the first people you encounter in the waiting room. Lupin VA = Rick Hunter VA!? You have got to be kidding me? :eek: This should've went to Funi right away since they're doing the TV Movies.

The dub wasn't that bad (though I haven't seen the original), but it could have been better. Overall, to me Lupin the III was good because it was so cheesy, so old, and so 1970's.

And why was this rated G?

Your guess is as good as mine.

If this is G then a TV-14 episode of Lupin III would be TV-MA or worse. :p

What could be worse than a TV-MA rating? That's the omega of the rating system.

You got:

TV-Y: suitable for children (i.e., Rugrats and some PBS shows)

TV-Y7: suitable for older children (i.e., all of the Cartoon Cartoons, except for Dexter and Mike, Lu, and Og, the edited version of Outlaw Star, Invader ZIM)

TV-G: suitable for families with little to no adult content (Dexter's Lab)

TV-PG: not suitable for younger viewers because of adult content (Yu-Yu Hakusho)

TV-14: inappropriate for anyone under 14 (Cowboy Bebop, InuYasha)

and last but not least

TV-MA: not suitable for anyone under 18 (or in some cases, 17. i.e., South Park)

I'm sorry for rambling like this, but this is a long way to tell you that I agree that the G rating on last night's Lupin the III was indeed a horrendous mistake.

[Michael]

twas a good openers, but would be helpful to konw what happened in first series i think

[Beat]

1. You thought Gundam looked bad?! Gundam was fully restored to its original quality. Not like this. But then again, I was watching the newest series, so maybe I'm a bit spoiled.

2. TV-G, huh?! Could've fooled me.

3. The dub actors are O.K, but not the greatest. I'd have gone with FUNi's cast over these guys.

4. It would've been nice to start from scratch, but oh well.

5. After all that, we have a very funny slapstick show that's a billion more times entertaining than Crap of the Stars on TechTV.

[Arxane]

I'm sorry for rambling like this, but this is a long way to tell you that I agree that the G rating on last night's Lupin the III was indeed a horrendous mistake.

Maybe in the spirit of "Lupin the III" being a comedy show, CN decided to give the show a G rating to mess with our minds. We think, "Oh, a harmless, family show on Adult Swim", then we see guys get the crap beat out of them, a guy shoot a gun, and a woman put some jewelry down her swimsuit bra. Funny. Fun.

Far fetched, I know, but I can dream.

Speaking of ratings, I find it odd that some G-rated shows like the Loony Tunes has people smoking while TV-Y7 shows on Toonami have to edit the smoking out. Just something I wonder about when I feel lonely...

[KingKoopa]

Yu Yu Hakusho's final episode of the season was rated TV-Y7 FV on its first airing, then TV-PG on every airing after. I bet Lupin was supposed to be PG.

[kaine23]

Originally posted by Nabuca
It wouldnt be Adult Swim without Williams Street making a ratings mistake. No worries, it is obviously not TV G. Anyway, finally some Lupin III on US TV.

Maybe now it's a running gag?

[CLStorm]

Lots of weird "baggage" like the TV-G rating that has nothing to do with anything really. Good episode though.

I have to be the only one in the world that didn't get bothered by the animation.

[JTurner954]

Originally posted by CLStorm

I have to be the only one in the world that didn't get bothered by the animation.

The animation was fine. There just happens to be a lot of picky people on these boards. Sometimes I'm convinced that people looked for things to complain about just to get others angry (like proper and improper ratings).

[EightOh]

Funny, good-looking(especially for a show as old as it is), stylish, and flat-out entertaining. What more could you possibly demand? The first episode wasn't my favorite episode of any show ever, but I liked it, and it had some good moments. It's a great bridge between ASC and ASA, and I eagerly await upcoming episodes(still hard to believe it'll air again tonight... and Wednesday night... and Thursday night...). Big toes up.

[JeffTMBG]

Don't worry about missing anything from the first series. After episode 1, I'm fairly sure they don't reference those episodes anymore.

[Nia]

I wasn't sure how I was going to take it, I heard so much about it. It was pretty darn good.

[EmoKark]

Hey when Fujiko jumped off the high dive was it just me or could you see alota ass. I dont know maybe its just me.

[Disco Pete]

I loved it! Nice show, plenty of laughs. Some may complain about the animation quality, but really! This show was made in the 70s! As far as the dub is concerned, I didn't have any problems, but then, I've never heard any other dubs, or seen it subbed, either.

I especially liked this:Originally posted by Mackenzie Rainelle
^^ And the "memorial" for Zenigata was great!
I think I'm gonna like this show!

And about the ratings: I don't care! I'm 25 years old, so I really don't have to worry about whether a show is rated for me. And any kids should be in bed by that time! (unless your on the west coast and getting it by satilite, then it's on at 9)

[Disco Pete]

Originally posted by EmoKark
Hey when Fujiko jumped off the high dive was it just me or could you see alota ass. I dont know maybe its just me.

OK, I gots one more thing to say:

Fujiko is one hot foxxy mama!

Thank You

[Chibi Kageboshi]

I didnt really like the animation but it also didnt bother me because i know it's from the 70's. The show was really good, but i fell asleep towards the end cuz i had been working all day =(

[J.C.]

Monday: Wow. This show has lived up to all of my expectations so far. You can already see many of the influences that Cowboy Bebop received from this series. The animation is actually a plus for me since it helps the show stand out more from other anime we currently have on t.v. Couldn't help but smirk a bit at Jigens (believe that's who it was) comment about Fujiko and the cigars. And I agree with those who have said that it works as a good way to bridge between the comedy and action shows.

Grade: A+

[Puu_MadamJelly]

Since I've never seen Lupin before, I didn't know what to expect. At first, the crude animation was disturbing me but as the show progressed, I completely forgot about it cuz it is a VERY nice addition to adult swim. The gags were good, especially the part where lupin was getting his butt medicated after saving the girl and the other people(their names escape me right now) disapproved of it. The action was ok. The villian was in fact "cheesy" but what do you expect? it was made in the 70's, I bet it wasn't as cheesy now as it it was when people saw it in the 70's. Still, I say it was an awesome entrance for a new addition to adult swim. Lupin gets an A from me :D.

by the way, on the first link, how come some of hte titles for other lupin movies, shows, OAVs, wahtever were spelled "Rupan"?

[Blue]

I loved it the animation was great for a show that old the thing that fried me was the big fingers.
But it is a great show .

[Chris Wood]

Originally posted by Matt Wilson
I wish I knew why people were criticizing the dub so much. I thought the voices fit. The only voice actor who couldn't pass the test was Goemon. That's it. I can't say I've seen the sub, but I've seen far worse dubs, especially on CN.


Ah, but if you've never seen the sub then how do you know if the voices fit? The dub wasn't appalling, but it didn't really match up with the characters either. It's hard to accept Rick Hunter as a lecherous goofball.

As for the animation, it was made in the 70s, and a quick look at other shows of that era will confirm that it wasn't half bad for its time. The recent Lupin films are very well animated if you want to check them out.

Thank god they left the original Lupin theme music in. Too bad about hacking the credits though.

[JetMaster5]

Well, that sure was a fun episode. All that 70'ish coolness sure was rubbed off of Lupin when CB was made (though, updated more).

Each character has it's quirks, and I like that (except for Goeman. Somehow, I never seem to care about that guy more than...say Jigan).

The song "Lu-pawn the Thiiiirrrrd!!!!" is alright at the beginning, but if the women keeps on singing that phrase after each episode, then things will get a bit tedious in Lupin.

I could care less about the animation. I could care less, as long as the plot is interesting. Otherwise, bleh.

Not bad for a first episode. I honestly can't see what's so good about this series other than the character quirks. And, if the series just continues to stay at this angle, and not move anywhere from it, then I'll lose interest in this series quickly.

Still, it's a first episode, so I shouldn't be so judgemental about it. Hopefully, this series turns out to be great, or perhaps, even better than CB.

Mister X....the villian....

....why does he remind me of Garlic Jr.? Especially that laughter.

[All-Star 1.5]

I missed the first episode of the this show, I mean I almost saw Home Movies was aout to go off and Lupin was about to come on. Then I started a to review for a test and everything got all black next thing I know I am watching Scooby Doo at 4:35.

So can anyone tell me what exactly happened on the first episode of Lupin or better yet send me to a web site that can?

[Chris Wood]

Each character has it's quirks, and I like that (except for Goeman. Somehow, I never seem to care about that guy more than...say Jigan).

Goemon usually stays in the background until he is needed to kick tail, and never says much. However there are a couple of episodes and movies where he is featured prominently.

The song "Lu-pawn the Thiiiirrrrd!!!!" is alright at the beginning, but if the women keeps on singing that phrase after each episode, then things will get a bit tedious in Lupin.

Well, that's a trademark, just like the Bond theme, and you can expect to hear a lot more of it. I think its a great theme myself. it seems like almost every year in Japan a new Lupin cover album is released.

Not bad for a first episode. I honestly can't see what's so good about this series other than the character quirks. And, if the series just continues to stay at this angle, and not move anywhere from it, then I'll lose interest in this series quickly.

Still, it's a first episode, so I shouldn't be so judgemental about it. Hopefully, this series turns out to be great, or perhaps, even better than CB.

If you're expecting great depth than you're in for disappointment, because it's not that kind of show. It's funny, zany, sexy, and wild, but rarely ever deep. If crazy hijinks are your thing then you will probably like it.

[Mike Toole]

Originally posted by Nin-Nin69
If anything need to be changed about the show it should be the dub cast. It sounds crazy, but you should actually go find some good talent rather than the first people you encounter in the waiting room.

I have to take exception to this, simply because two of the four primary cast members have been actors for over 20 years. I think everyone was at least adequate, and Richard Epcar is my favorite English Jigen yet!

This should've went to Funi right away since they're doing the TV Movies.

Problem one with that is the fact that Pioneer licensed this show and not Funimation. Problem two is that the Funimation actors are the worst cast out of all the Lupin III dubs, IMO. Yes, I enjoy them even less than the AnimEigo cast.

Personally, I would have loved to have had Bob Bergen (Streamline's Cagliostro dub and Mystery of Mamo) or David Hayter (Manga dub of Cagliostro) back, but I think Oliver is OK.

[Chris Wood]

Originally posted by J-GL

So can anyone tell me what exactly happened on the first episode of Lupin or better yet send me to a sight that can?

The 5 main characters are all invited to a cruise on a huge ship by someone, but they don't know who. During the cruise attempts are made on the lives of all 5, but they emerge unscathed (except for Lupin's derriere). Finally they are brought face to face with their antagonist, the psychotic Mr. X, who was thwarted by Lupin before (in the first TV series) and now seeks revenge. After a showdown he is killed and the ship sinks. Floating on a raft, Lupin mourns the apparent loss of Zenigata, but he suddenly appears chasing them on a giant turtle. The end.

[Jerry Mouse]

I found it rather interesting.

[Mynd Hed]

Well, what can I say that hasn't already been said.

The dub: now, I've never seen the sub version, so I can't say how closely the dub matched it. But I must say that I wasn't a big fan of the voice actors. Too... cartoony, or something. Especially Lupin himself (too dorky) and Mr. X (too over-the-top-villainy). The rest of the voices were better, but still not good in my estimation. I got the feeling that a lot of the jokes fell flat because of poor delivery and/or translation.

The animation and art style may have been fine back in the day, but nowadays they look pretty weak to me. I'm just not a huge fan of that particular art style wherever it rears its head (was I the only one who thought it looked a tad like Giant Robo?). But that's not a huge big deal with me, I can still enjoy a show even if I don't like the animation much as long as it has other strengths that appeal to me.

Overall, I thought it was okay, certainly not the worst thing I've ever seen, but with nothing that particularly made me want to watch more. However, I hear from folks who've seen more of Lupin than I have that this is one of the weaker episodes, so I'll keep watching it to see if it grows on me.

Overall Grade: C+

Oh, by the way, that "Lu-pawn the Thiiiiird" thingie was the high point of the show for me. Good stuff!

[Mackenzie Rainelle]

Now that I think about it, I remember my favorite line in that episode. "Oooooo, the obsessive type!"

[SirLemming]

Well, I'm impressed. It's got some healthy cheesiness, but I really don't think it needs many excuses. It strikes me as an all-around fun show that has great potential.

My personal favorite aspect so far: the samurai guy! He was just great! He's kinda just got all this useless Bushido goin' on... I loved when he answered the door by slicing it into a million pieces. I also loved his nonsensical phrase that seemed all wise, but really made no sense at all:
"The proud oak is strong like a man -- but the cyclone is wise like a woman!"

[Gruntling]

Lupin the 3rd
Return of Lupin the 3rd: 7.4

I can't say I was really impressed. I thought the animation and details were pretty good, but the overall stinker for me was the voices. Lupin and Mr. X's voices were a little over the top. And the episode seemed to go by too quickly. I'll have to watch the series loner to get a better grasp of things.

[Zach Logan]

Roun Two...

[livingfruitvirus]

Just out of observation, anyone notice that the Lupin the Third logo that's used in the homemade OP is using FUNimation's model of the logo? Not Pioneer's.

Maybe they have a deal with them too.

[Moof]

Sweet Jesus, the Jesus statue....

[Zach Logan]

Originally posted by livingfruitvirus
Just out of observation, anyone notice that the Lupin the Third logo that's used in the homemade OP is using FUNimation's model of the logo? Not Pioneer's.

Maybe they have a deal with them too.

That would be interesting...

[JTurner954]

I'm watching it now and I'm a little confused. Why are they all (including the cop) in Rio?? Something about them getting arrested for drunk driving??

Aside from the confusion, I'm liking it.

"All work and no play makes me you".

[Moof]

Projecting film onto a screen in front of a surveillance camera...in genius...

but hey, it was the 70's

[G1Ravage]

JESUS!

[ArmyOfClones]

LMAO!!!!!!!
floating Jesus!!!!!! :D

[Moof]

I like what the next one looks like....Ha ha...Hitler....

[Spike Mcdougal]

Gah!!!!!!!!!

Why did they show the preview!?! We know it's not gonna air!!!!

[G1Ravage]

Originally posted by Spike Mcdougal
Gah!!!!!!!!!

Why did they air the preview!?! We know it's know gonna air!!!!

Maybe it will? How do we know for sure?

[JTurner954]

Originally posted by Moof
Projecting film onto a screen in front of a surveillance camera...in genius...

but hey, it was the 70's

Eat your heart out, Superman 2.

Anyway, I'm still confused. They stole the money because it was illegal??

[Killtacular]

The episode preview's on there simply because Pioneer didn't want to bother editting the tapes yet. As they don't know when Hitler's Legacy will come back.

[Joe Tully]

Originally posted by JTurner954


Anyway, I'm still confused. They stole the money because it was illegal??

They are thieves. They steal money.

[Perfect Cell]

I liked this episode, im begining to start liking lupin alot, i love the campy spy sort of feel like Austin Powers :) Anyways, i liked todays episode tomorow has nazis ?

[Dogasu]

Meh, any logic for cutting out Episode 3 ("To Be or Nazi Be"...I actually like the pun ^^;; ) was thrown out the window when they aired the preview for it tonight.

Great episode, over-the-top cheesiness (did anyone else laugh when the Jesus statue did the cheesy anime smile at the end?), some Adult Swim goodness (they let Lupin cop a feel on Fujiko's butt), and that great theme song!

[livingfruitvirus]

Originally posted by Perfect Cell
I liked this episode, im begining to start liking lupin alot, i love the campy spy sort of feel like Austin Powers :) Anyways, i liked todays episode tomorow has nazis ?

you won't be seeing it. Pioneer has pulled this episode from TV AND DVD release for the time being.

[rickster]

Originally posted by livingfruitvirus
you won't be seeing it. Pioneer has pulled this episode from TV AND DVD release for the time being.


is there a reason for this someone who has seen the episode?

[JTurner954]

Originally posted by Joe Tully
They are thieves. They steal money.

No wonder I was confused. All this time I thought they were good guys operating outside the law. Now everything makes sense. Thanks, Joe Tully.

Anyway, this is yet another good one. The DBZ/Tenchi humor wins me over every time. No major complaints really.

Overall grade: B+ (1 percent away from an A- though)

So..... how come the next episode won't be airing and was also taken out of the DVD?

[JeffTMBG]

Now the series begins to take off! I hadn't seen this episode in awhile, and the english certainly helped it a lot. Tons of great one-liners and laugh out loud moments. A-

[Arde]

Although yesterday's ep was mediocre, this ep more than makes up for it. From the ingenious scheme from Lupin & Co., Zenigata showing us he's not just an idiot detective like the Pink Panther one, puns and gags from the cast, and holy flying Jesus...no, seriously!!!
Although the sight of a 170 feet solid stone Jesus smiling and winking give me the willies...eep... but this was a great ep.

4/5 for today's Lupin.

[Arde]

Originally posted by JTurner954
So..... how come the next episode won't be airing and was also taken out of the DVD?
Doesn't make sense, right? They can show Lupin making fun of holy Jesus but they can't make fun of the damned Nazis???
Nazis are the guys the media and entertainment have always made fun of or portrayed as bad guys...Now they took it off because it was making fun of Nazis???
Damn Nazis...

[Arxane]

My man Jesus makes a special appearance in today's episode of "Lupin the III". And it was quite a fun ride.

Now this was a great episode. Everything from the plan to have an alibi to character interactions were played out marvelously. And that close-up of that belly dancer...waiter, is there a reason this show isn't on Toonami? The only nitpick I have is the ending. It wasn't bad, but it was just like "huh?". The smiling Jesus was amusing but ultimately cheesy. Then again, this show is meant to be cheesy. Definitely gets me in the mood for more Lupin tomorrow. Can't wait until then.

Overall, an A.

Well, now that we've seen the promo for the Nazi episode, we can all write to Pioneer telling them how we think it's terrible they're putting out something with Nazis! It's horrible! It's insensitive! It's terrible! It's...the response Pioneer was expecting, right?

Baka...

[Cactusjack1999]

You know they cancelled "Rejected" for less than what was shown in Lupin.

What a weird world huh?

[Arxane]

Originally posted by Cactusjack1999
You know they cancelled "Rejected" for less than what was shown in Lupin.

What a weird world huh?

Not really. They say "Rejected" was canceled because one of the top brass just didn't get its humor and decided everyone else wouldn't see it because of it...but that's a different discussion entirely.

[sedorna]

In today's episode, who was going to be struck by lightning? I can't seem to catch that. Jesus says, "Blah will be struck by lightning", but I can't figure out who, exactly, "blah" is. Help!

[Lupin the Wolf]

"That Pierre is going to get struck by lightning."

Pele is the famous soccer player who gets mentioned in the Japanese as a player for the American soccer team. Watch this episode subtitled (on the DVD) and they call him "Perre," probably to avoid legal issues (or because the translator simply didn't know any better). In the dub that name "Perre" gets further distorted into "Pierre."

I think it was kind of weird to have the Lord say that at the last second when he was barely mentioned much in the main storyline. In the Japanese He says something like "Those who obey my commandments shall be blessed" or something....I can cue it up in a few and correct myself later.

And why does everyone call it "Lupin the III?" Does no one notice how grammatically painful that is? It's 3 things:
"Lupin the Third,"
"Lupin the 3rd,"
or "Lupin III."
No mixing and matching, please. That's like saying "my bad"....(shudder).
However, this is my favorite Japanese-ism on Lupin's name:
"Lupin the IIIrd." Icky but funny.....how do you pronounce it? "Lupin the the Third-ird?"
^_^ More later.

[Lupin the Wolf]

Just out of observation, anyone notice that the Lupin the Third logo that's used in the homemade OP is using FUNimation's model of the logo? Not Pioneer's.

Maybe they have a deal with them too.

From talks I had with FUNimation, they were required to use this logo on all their promotional materials for the series by the original licensor. Pioneer was required to do the same, but they found a way around it.
So far, on all their Lupin merchandise the golden Lupin logo has appeareed in small print. It appeared on their early promo Lupin poster at AnimeExpo, it appeared on their promotional fake Lupin sideburn packages, and it's on the back of the first DVD of the TV series (albeit in small print). So essentially, it's *on* all of Pioneer's promo materials, but they're basically using TWO logos, simultaneously.
Hence its presence on the Lupin promo/intro on AS.

Hope that clarifies things a bit. More replies to come.

[Sir Gatts]

Tuesday: I'm surprised this episode didn't get Rejected because of the butt kicking Jesus statue. Bad pun, I know. :p This time we get a TV PG DL rating. I guess it will go back to TV G now that the floating Jesus statue is out of the way. :D

[wrenchien]

... they stole the statue of jesus in tonight's episode of lupin 3!?!? when i thought they just wanted the money more than anything!?!?

NOOoooooooooooooooooooooo............. :eek:

[SSDDR]

Wayy better then the first, ep. The plot kept me guessing at what exactly they would do, like all good lupin episodes. Any everyone seemed a bit more in character (seeing jigens eyes that much was bizzare in ep1), that and the VA's dont bother me nearly as much, prolly cause any VA's in english are a shock after watching it subbed. Im happy, i couldnt ask for more (well, maybey to see the nazi epiosde...)

and they didnt MEAN to lose the money. their thefts rarely go as planned (just like the bounties in cowboy bebop)

[Lupin the Wolf]

by the way, on the first link, how come some of hte titles for other lupin movies, shows, OAVs, wahtever were spelled "Rupan"?

http://www.LupintheThird.net/faq.htm
Read the response to the second question. It's a very long story, but it gets the job done. ^_^

[Mike Toole]

Originally posted by rickster
is there a reason for this someone who has seen the episode?

It's sort of a spoiler, but here goes:

In the epiosde, there's a point where Lupin himself dresses up as Hitler.

Basically, Pioneer's reasoning for omitting the episode is because they thought that viewers new to Lupin III, upon seeing Lupin dressed as Hitler, would get offended, because they hadn't seen enough of the series to get the vibe of the show and wouldn't understand the playful, silly nature of it.

I don't agree with their reasoning, but there you have it. They've also said that they WILL eventually air and release the epiosde.

All that said, I'm gratified that this crowd is enjoying Lupin III so much! I was scared there'd be more "Bleh, this is toooo old!!" voices. :p

[Mike Toole]

Originally posted by Lupin the Wolf
Pele is the famous soccer player who gets mentioned in the Japanese as a player for the American soccer team.

I really enjoyed this aspect of the episode, as it gave a REALLY firm idea of when the series took place. For those who aren't soccer junkies, Pele played in the North American Soccer League (a surprisingly successful big-leage soccer federation... until they went bankrupt in the early 80s due to mismanagement) as a member of the New York Cosmos. Like the show's "New York Mammoths", the Cosmos wore green.

It was a nice reference to a popular sport of the era. (The Cosmos were famous, even in America! They also featured big names like Franz Beckenbauer and Johann Cruyff, and would routinely draw crowds of 25,000 or more.)

[Umino]

Pretty good episode but from looking at the preview for episode 3 I notice the swatika in the backround. So it's okay to show the swatika but it's not okay to show a symbol that looks like it?

[Nexus810]

I could maybe understand the whole Hitler thing in Europe but def not in America... I hate to say it but America loves Hitler (not in the sense that we like what he did...although some weirdos....) but Just look at what our TV, Storylines, everything is focused around in a lot of cases....Hitler and the Nazis. One of everyones most favorite movie triologies shows Hitler's men looking for sacred religious objects (Indiana Jones for the oppressed) heh and there is even a whole channel owned by the DISNEY corporation that is named after him...err its the History Channel not teh Hitler Channel but its easy to see how one could make the mistake...All Hitler All the Time on the HIstory Channel.

the few times I have been to Europe the people have always been a bit curious as to why we Americans have this fascination with Hitler..honestly I dont know why but it seems that we Americans do.

Plus it gets even better when we make fun of Hitler (like it seems that this episode will do)...

[VinceA]

I know that Hitler in a humorous setting wouldn't fly well in the NYC metro area. There are still a large number of Holocaust survivors in the area that might not get the humor. They are also a very vocal group (together with the Anti-Defamation League). One person would tell another and so on.... by the end of it all the last person would think that CN had shown a toon glorifying Hitler. All in all, probably not something we need happening right now.

Personally, I get the joke but that doesn't mean everyone does...

[Dogasu]

The whole episode emission thing is a Pioneer decision, not CN. CN doesn't care about showing Hitler and the Nazis or whatever, as seen by the wartimes episode of Toonheads (a show outside the Adult Swim programming, I might add). That show had cartoons with swastikas all over the place, as well as characitures (sp) of Hitler, yet CN didn't mind.

The only reason the swastika-looking symbol on YYH was edited out was because it was just there, without any real historical context or reason. When you're talking about Germany during World War 2, then you can show as many swastikas and Nazi periphanelia as you want. But if you're showing a Spirit Detective fighting a non-Nazi guy wearing a symbol that sorta resembles a swastika, then you have problems.

It's stupid because, as I said, CN airing the promo for the episode makes any argument against airing the episode null and void. If you're going to get upset about the episode, seeing the episode preview would be enough to get you riled up.

[Chris Wood]

Originally posted by JTurner954
No wonder I was confused. All this time I thought they were good guys operating outside the law. Now everything makes sense.

They are thieves by profession, but they are otherwise basically honorable types. In most of the movies the plot is expanded from their basic heist to include some madman's plot to take over the world, and Lupin and the gang thwart it in their pursuit of treasure.

[raykremer]

Wow this is a fun show.

Those girls who sing "Lupin the Thirrrrrd!" remind me of the Shaft theme. Heh.

Oh my word, is Fujiko racked! I mean geez, almost to the point of absurdity.

[Joe Tully]

Originally posted by Dogasu
The whole episode emission thing is a Pioneer decision, not CN. CN doesn't care about showing Hitler and the Nazis or whatever, as seen by the wartimes episode of Toonheads (a show outside the Adult Swim programming, I might add). That show had cartoons with swastikas all over the place, as well as characitures (sp) of Hitler, yet CN didn't mind.



I would argue that the Wartime Toonheads is actually evidence that CN does mind, since the only time those cartoons got aired was when they were aired in a special with narration that explained the historical background. Other than that, those cartoons have not aired on CN, during the Acme Hour or anything similar. Also, it should be noted that the special has only aired twice.

The only reason the swastika-looking symbol on YYH was edited out was because it was just there, without any real historical context or reason. When you're talking about Germany during World War 2, then you can show as many swastikas and Nazi periphanelia as you want. But if you're showing a Spirit Detective fighting a non-Nazi guy wearing a symbol that sorta resembles a swastika, then you have problems.

It's not that the YYH swastika was in an odd place, it was that there was no explanation for it, unlike the Toonheads, which explained the background.

But Lupin has no historical background either, at least not from my understanding. The Toonheads thing took the trouble to explain WWII and the stereotypes and situation, and that's why it got around the problem. Both YYH and (I assume) Lupin just use the swastika/Hitler and assume you get it.

I honestly don't think it's a big deal myself, though, and hopefully it'll get aired the second time through. I think the subject matter actually makes it sound that much more interesting and funny.

It's stupid because, as I said, CN airing the promo for the episode makes any argument against airing the episode null and void. If you're going to get upset about the episode, seeing the episode preview would be enough to get you riled up.

I doubt it. A short promo is a lot different from a whole episode.

[Michael]

good epsiode, suxs how they lost the $$ hehe

[JJc14]

ah, lupin's been one of those shows that i've heard talk about and yet hadn't seen any of...i'm glad to see cartoon network giving it a shot, despite it's older animation...

[note: this whole series is new to me]
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monday night:

a slow episode, but that's expected for any first episode of a series...the cast is laid out and it seems they're gonna play off each other nicely...

i found the antagonist to be a little weak this episode, though it looks like he's just a one-shot deal, so that's nothing to be concerned about: B-


tuesday night:

now this was enjoyable...a well-thought out plot by lupin and the gang, and having the detective guy being able to discern some of it adds credibility to his character...

i got some good laughs out of the characters ("all work and no play makes me you" comes to mind), and the ending seemed like something out of bebop (though i guess it should technically be the other way around...), though the talking jesus thing seemed outta place: B+
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well, hopefully missing episode three won't be too damaging to the building plot, but nontheless, i'm looking forward to tonight...

[Infinity Blade]

I missed the end of the episode (and the beginning of Inuyasha) because my Cartoon Network's reception somehow went out...

What happened, exactly, after Zenigata fell off the statue and landed on his butt? Please? Anyone? ^^;

[Mynd Hed]

Wow, this show is really starting to grow on me. This episode didn't have the problem of introducing a recurring villain to an audience who doesn't know what his "deal" is, and it was much more consistent in terms of humor value. Some great one-liners, my personal favorite being, "All work and no play makes me... you!" (-:
And ANY show that has Jesus biznitch-slapping a helicopter out of the sky is aces with me.

Overall Grade: B-

It bites that we won't get to see the Nazi episode, it looks funny. I guess I can understand not wanting to show it on TV, but removing it from the DVDs?! Uh-uh. Bad move. DVDs are for otaku. If some people are offended by that episode, there's this neat little ">>" button on your DVD remote that magically makes it go away. Oh well, I'm preaching to the converted here, so I'll shut up. (-:

[JTurner954]

Originally posted by Lupin the Wolf



And why does everyone call it "Lupin the III?" Does no one notice how grammatically painful that is? It's 3 things:
"Lupin the Third,"
"Lupin the 3rd,"
or "Lupin III."
No mixing and matching, please. That's like saying "my bad"....(shudder).



Now you know why I get mad whenever I see someone call The Big O Season 2 as "Big O 2".

Anyway, I think it's because that singer goes "Lupin the Thirrrrrrd" (this is why I call it Lupin the 3rd).

[Chris Wood]

What do we want?
NAZIS!
When do we want them?
NOW!


Hmmm... that came off pretty strange. Anyway, I hope to see that episode soon.

[J.C.]

Originally posted by Arde
Zenigata showing us he's not just an idiot detective like the Pink Panther one,

My thoughts exactly. Glad to see that he's not a complete pushover, which was the impression I got from the first episode.

Tuesday: They fooled everyone with a projector?? Man, this show is so..... 70s. LOL Didn't like this one as much as Mondays episode, but still a good way of showing us the kind of schemes we can expect from Lupin and the gang in the future. The stuff towards the end with the Jesus statue had me cracking up, especially when it smiled at them after talking. Good episode, overall, and it's too bad to hear that we won't be seeing the Nazi one since it looked like a good one. Oh well, hopefully it'll be shown sooner rather then later.

Grade: B+

[kaine23]

Gotta admit, he's a genius.

[Beat]

This is great. This is friggin great. A mainstream show that overcomes bad animation to be hillarious. We need to put Lupin on bus ads.

[hpseven5]

What a hilariously great show!

Monday Night:

Rated G? I thought they had butchered the show until it progressed. But, after seeing the whole thing, the swearing alone should have given the episode at least a PG rating. (Q: who is responsible for a show's rating?)

Great intro episode for all the characters. The voices and animation did not bother me since I haven't ever seen any other movie or show in the series. Lupin is hilarious and my current favorite character (although I have only seen two episodes). Fujiko's br***** are huge! And I'm suprised that they didn't censor the nudity. I guess CN or whoever is letting up on their standards. When Lupin thought the detective (I can't remember his name right now) had died and was sad, but immediately cheerful when he appeared on the turtle, I laughed. Overall, cheesy show but I like it......... B++

Tuesday Night:

Rated PG, that's more like it.

I liked this episode more than the first mainly because all of the characters were already introduced and I had gotten a feel for their individual personalities. Using the statue of Christ was a little cheesy, especially when it smiled. I also agree that having the detective character on the show who is not a complete idiot makes that character (What is his name?) and the show more interesting. Great episode..... A-

[candy17]

Originally posted by CLStorm
I have to be the only one in the world that didn't get bothered by the animation.

I'm not bothered by it either, but it does remind me of Mobile Suit Gundam based on how cheap it looks (sorry, but I was spoiled by the likes of Cowboy Bebop, Outlaw Star, and Big O--probably the only three series I know that have good animation), but Lupin the III is good in other places besides animation.

[Nin-Nin69]

Talk about stupid guards. Fujiko only came in to Lupin's room to change the sheets and then she left. Don't you think thats odd?Well then again the whole series is odd. :p


Anyways it was a good episode. Its too bad they lost the money. And they even got taunted about being struck with lightning by the statue. :D

[Daisuke Jigen]

I am overwhelmed with joy that Lupin is going over so well here.

It really is such a fun show. Every time is starts, I get giddy like a schoolgirl with a baby duck.

[Arde]

Originally posted by Nin-Nin69
Talk about stupid guards. Fujiko only came in to Lupin's room to change the sheets and then she left. Don't you think thats odd?Well then again the whole series is odd. :p

Why else do you think they did that during the soccer season on Rio de Janeiro??? Maybe next time they should import American guards that hates soccer. :)

[Nin-Nin69]

Yea, but wouldn't the guard at the front gate realise that it was only 3 minutes? :eek:

[MothMonsterMan]

I really liked Lupin a lot. It was intelligent, action filled, and fun to watch. I give it an A+

[PluribusFinn]

Grade A:
what a fun show! definitely exceeded my expectations, me not usually being a fan of adult swim action. so well-written, and the animation is also entertaining. that samurai dude delivers some great lines:
"disgust rises from deep within me!"
a perfect fit between ASC and ASA

[SirLemming]

You know what's really weird? Tonight they showed the Simpsons episode where they go to Brazil, and they pointed out the Christ statue and Copa Cabana and the soccer tournament and everything. Pretty strange coincidence.


As for this episode, very nice! A healthy dose of funny lines ("Keep your shirt on! Or don't. Whatever." ...and when Lupin prohibited the guard from seeing him naked) and all-around fun. This show really seems to embody fun more than anything else.
And you gotta love how this episode just seems to be taunting Toonami edits. There was the time when that guy was listing different types of alcohol, the butt grabbing, the prominent use of a religious symbol -- not just any religious symbol, but a statue specifically named as a statue of Jesus Christ...

[Conekiller]

Outta time to post a full review, but I gotta say I love this show, wish I would have ogtten to see it sooner A+

was the girl Zenigata fell on at the beach "covered up"?

[hpseven5]

Does anyone know the answer to my question? (page 8 reply #153)

[JTurner954]

Third episode: This was good, but not as much as the first two episodes. Funny stuff as usual with the detective and his desperate attempts to capture Lupin. Funniest part was with the trap stuck on Lupin. The Loch Ness storyline itself wasn't all that great, but everything else made up for it. Where was the guy with the sword (don't remember his name) before he saed thew two guys at the hotel??

Overall grade: B

So they can show footage of the towers falling, they can have Medal of Honor which is a videogame attacking Germans rated Teen, and they can attack Germans in the Indiana Jones movies. Yet, they can't show a Hitler spoof episode (and you can see spoofs of other evil men on network TV)?? :confused:

I bet there was at least one person who got offended in tonight's episode because it had a camera shot in sniper mode.

[Moof]

Originally posted by JTurner954


So they can show footage of the towers falling, they can have Medal of Honor which is a videogame attacking Germans rated Teen, and they can attack Germans in the Indiana Jones movies. Yet, they can't show a Hitler spoof episode (and you can see spoofs of other evil men on network TV)?? :confused:

I bet there was at least one person who got offended in tonight's episode because it had a camera shot in sniper mode.


I acctualy saw a WW2 loony toon cartoon which poked fun at Hitler and Stalin. so i'm as confused as you are.........

[livingfruitvirus]

Originally posted by Conekiller
was the girl Zenigata fell on at the beach "covered up"?

If you mean was she "digitally" covered up, than no. That was the whole painted cel. Usually nude jokes are properly inserted into a show as a joke or something, and aren't just "there" for background show.

[Cyporiean]

Originally posted by JTurner954

So they can show footage of the towers falling, they can have Medal of Honor which is a videogame attacking Germans rated Teen, and they can attack Germans in the Indiana Jones movies. Yet, they can't show a Hitler spoof episode (and you can see spoofs of other evil men on network TV)?? :confused:


don't forget about seeing Hitler's Frozen Corpse on the same network..

[Lupin the Wolf]

TV ratings are left up to be determined by the networks individually. Cartoon Network determines the ratings for their own shows, as does NBC, ABC, TNT, etc. One major flaw with the system...one network will say a show is TV-PG, while another would take the same show and call it TV-14. So basically the Tv-G thing from "The Return of Lupin the Third"'s initial broadcast was a boo-boo on CN's part.

[Arde]

Well, this ep was just good, not great like the ep yesterday...just enough to merit enjoyment.
Although the Loch Ness and Fujiko storyline was weak, the rest of the cast more than makes up for it especially the cool device used by Jigen.
Oh well... 3/5 for today's ep.

Bad decision by Pioneer for not putting in the Nazi ep since it will have been better than this ep to make people more interested with Lupin.

[TnAdct1]

Originally posted by SirLemming
You know what's really weird? Tonight they showed the Simpsons episode where they go to Brazil, and they pointed out the Christ statue and Copa Cabana and the soccer tournament and everything. Pretty strange coincidence.

Same thing here in DC.

Joe Klemm

[Arxane]

An enjoyable "Lupin" episode, but not the best. The Loch Ness Monster bit wasn't the most original story they could've come up with, and the singing of Fujiko wasn't exactly as soothing or enchanting as Nessie seemed to think. But the character interactions more than made up for it; the bit with the land mines and "finding the damn frequency" was great. And hey, they actually said the word "ass" for the first time. I thought they would just use the word "butt", but obviously they like "ass" as well...okay, that didn't sound right, but then again it's as cheesy as this episode was.

A-

[Chris Wood]

Arrggghh! I missed tonight's episode. Can anyone give a brief recap?

[SSDDR]

Fujiko's singing in scotland, attracts the attention of the loch ness monster, then is captured by a madman researcher who wants to use her voice to attract the beast. Lupin shees an aticle about fujiko seeing the moster in a newspaper, and jjets off to meet her, only to end up saving her and the monster from the crazy researcher.

[Lupin the Wolf]

Fujiko's singing voice is discovered to attract Nessie, the Loch Ness Monster. Mad scientist Dr. Oz has been seeking to capture Nessie, and was offered a very large sum to do so. Lupin goes to Scotland to meet Fujiko, and when he does, she is being pursued by Oz on a speedboat over Loch Ness. Oz captures her, despite Lupin's best efforts (and an overzealousness tha leaves poor Jigen unconscious). Lupin manages to grab a photo, though, and identifies Oz as her abductor.
Oz tortures Fujiko to make her sing (he scrapes his prosthetic leg against the stone wall), to no avail. So, while Lupin and Jigen rest, they are almost sniped in their sleep by Oz's hitman as Fujiko watches (she has claimed she does not know the duo). Goemon manages to stop the sniping. And Lupin gets a bear trap on his butt, which Goemon helps to remove ("Ah, the old Bear-Trap-in-the-Ass trick."). Jigen uses his lighter-sized device to detonate some land mines ("They must be on eletronic detonation, so the only question is...what's the damn frequency?") that had been set up to kill them as well.
Hoping to locate Fujiko, Lupin and Jigen rest upon Lake Ness on a rowboat, scoping out the scenery. Zenigata shows up with a tranquilizer dartgun and tries to snipe Lupin, but Goemon uses Zantetsuken (his sword, to those who are unaware) to deflect the dart and poke the Old Man in the forehead with his own weapon.
Nessie appears, and swallows Lupin and Jigen. They awaken inside Nessie's metallic(??) stomach along with Fujiko. Turns out Oz created an artificial Nessie to attract the real one ("Nessie's mating habits are obscure!"). Then he fills Nessie's belly with water in yet another attempt to coerce Fujiko into singing the Scottish folk song she sang at the story's opening. He sets them free and makes them think the Fake Nessie is sinking. So Fujiko sings the song and attracts the Real Nessie. The Fake Nessie shoots a freezing solution all over the Real Nessie, encasing it in a thick, icey skin.
Oz transports the Real Nessie, frozen, in a cage to the North Sea. While in transit, the Lupin Gang hack out the real Nessie (using an audio recording of Fujiko's singing), who escapes the cage and the ice, smashes Oz's ship to smithereens, then heads back towards Loch Ness (which may or may not be connected to the North Sea by an underwater passage). Fujiko sings the folk song song for Nessie one last time, but he doesn't pursue it: "Mother, Father, please believe me, every word is true. I just glimpsed a beast with two backs through the foggy dew..."

I'm sorry, I just realized that wasn't brief at all....

[Chris Wood]

Thanks for the episode summary. Sounds like a particularly wacky one. I have to remember to set the darn VCR.

[Lupin the Wolf]

I edited it a couple times for clarity and to add a few good quotes, but anyway...it'll be on the Lupin TV DVD: "The World's Most Wanted", so you could always catch it then...

[Chris Wood]

Originally posted by Lupin the Wolf
I edited it a couple times for clarity and to add a few good quotes, but anyway...it'll be on the Lupin TV DVD: "The World's Most Wanted", so you could always catch it then...

Yeah, I suppose, but I don't really want to pay money for the Rick Hunter Lupin. I'm saving up for the Region 2 DVDs. And it'll take a while. Man they're expensive.

[SSDDR]

um... why? on the dvds you wouldnt have to listen to the dub if you didnt want to.

[Mike Toole]

Yeah, the DVDs are bilingual. You can even turn off the subtitles, since you mentioned that you like watching anime in Japanese without subs. The only drawback is, no "Hitler's Legacy" episode. But Pioneer have said that they'll be including that episode on a later volume of the DVD release.

I think the DVDs are rather nice. I've got the first one.

[wrenchien]

Originally posted by Nin-Nin69
Yea, but wouldn't the guard at the front gate realise that it was only 3 minutes? :eek:

it's anime.

time could be forever, a moment could last two minutes when someone dies, or in the next episode 20 years could pass with the next generation of heros in effect.

[Nobuyuki sama]

Originally posted by Lupin the Wolf
From talks I had with FUNimation, they were required to use this logo on all their promotional materials for the series by the original licensor. Pioneer was required to do the same, but they found a way around it.
So far, on all their Lupin merchandise the golden Lupin logo has appeareed in small print. It appeared on their early promo Lupin poster at AnimeExpo, it appeared on their promotional fake Lupin sideburn packages, and it's on the back of the first DVD of the TV series (albeit in small print). So essentially, it's *on* all of Pioneer's promo materials, but they're basically using TWO logos, simultaneously.
Hence its presence on the Lupin promo/intro on AS.

Hope that clarifies things a bit. More replies to come.
Apologies for dragging this back up, but I noticed the promos are using a third logo style, from the Tokyopop manga, where it reads "Lupin III". This could be confusing to the people that don't pay attention... :p

[gtracer72]

This was a pretty good episode, all though I think the previous ones were better. I really like this series and the whole theme is has. Everyone in the gang is really cool.

Episodes grade: B+

[Conekiller]

This might seem odd, but Why does Goemon, an apparrent honorable Samurai hang out with and help a bunch of theives? it's really been bothering me. he still is cool tho

[Binaroid]

Originally posted by Conekiller
This might seem odd, but Why does Goemon, an apparrent honorable Samurai hang out with and help a bunch of theives? it's really been bothering me. he still is cool tho

I haven't seen or read the actual stories in question myself, but from what I understand, it played out something like how Twilight Suzuka became a regular in Outlaw Star: Samurai tries to kill protagonist and fails, samurai determined to correct mistake, samurai runs in later to stop other bad guys from killing protagonist (and stealing his/her thunder), protagonist & friends grow on samurai, samurai eventually decides to take raincheck on vengeance and becomes an irregular ally of protagonist.

[Nin-Nin69]

Either that or he was broke and needed the money and exercise. :D

[Lupin the Wolf]

There was an episode of the First TV Series that explained their meeting. (Unfortunately the meetings of the rest of the cast were not explained until the latest Japanese TV Movie, "Episode Zero: First Contact.") I'm not going to take the time explaining the story behind that one episode, because it doesn't really shed much light on the subject.
Goemon Ishikawa the First was a thief who was sort of like a Japanese Robin Hood. He was eventually caught and met his end in a pot of boiling oil. However, according to the Lupin world, Goemon the First had a child, and the legacy continued until Goemon the Thirteenth (the Goemon on the show) arrived. Goemon somehow managed to get his hold on Zantetsuken (by stealing it, no less), a nearly-indestructible blade reportedly made from the metal of a meteor. While employed by a killer named Old Man Momochi, Goemon was assigned to assassinate Lupin, a job he obviously failed.
2 episodes later, Goemon was hired to supervise a tournament of battle skills. The grand prize was scrolls that revealed how to make a blade like Zantetsuken. Lupin ultimately won the tournament, but all he really wanted was a blade that had been stolen from his father years ago. Goemon wanted to continue to duel Lupin, and he refused. At the episode's end, Goemon and Lupin drop the duel and become good friends.
The only other clip that shows any insight on the matter is from "The Mystery of Mamo," in which Goemon says "If Lupin is ever to be killed, it shall be by me...no one else."
So you were pretty darn close on your guess. Impressive. Another source said that Goemon hangs with Lupin because he "believes in Lupin's cause"...whatever the heck that's supposed to mean.

[Beat]

Nearly indestructible? Didn't seem that way when Mr. X beat the crap out of him. :p

[Spastic Minnow]

So, are Lupin's butt injuries a running gag?

[JeffTMBG]

I had seen this episode subbed a couple of years back. Can't say that it was a favorite, but there are a couple of funny moments (Lupin's ass in the bear trap comes to mind). I just realized that we're 3 episodes in and Fujiko hasn't double-crossed Lupin yet. Perhaps tonight. Grade: C+

[mr.apple]

Does anyone know is they've edited anything so far?

[Lupin the Wolf]

I believe the 5-second scene of Fujiko in the shower at the beginning of Episode 1 was probably cut (I havent seen the episode, but if that clip had been aired, I'm sure someone on here would have mentioned it).

Otherwise, I have seen the first 6 episodes uncut...and I have no clue what they WOULD cut, they're mostly pretty "clean."
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Regarding Zantetsuken's indestructibility, I've only seen the blade broken twice. One in "Mystery of Mamo" and once in that TV episode. Every other time it's been in battle, it was impervious. The blade's level of invicibility seems to be left up to the show's particular writer or director (kind of like how Lupin's personality changes a little from series to series).

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Lupin gets his butt grazed again in the 1996 movie Dead or Alive, and I think it's kind of a running gag, but probably not capitalized on across the series.

[Chris Wood]

Originally posted by Mike Toole
Yeah, the DVDs are bilingual. You can even turn off the subtitles, since you mentioned that you like watching anime in Japanese without subs. The only drawback is, no "Hitler's Legacy" episode. But Pioneer have said that they'll be including that episode on a later volume of the DVD release.

I think the DVDs are rather nice. I've got the first one.

Hmm, sounds promising. Are the episodes unedited? Or do they have the opening and ending credits chopped off like on Adult Swim?

[Chris Wood]

Originally posted by JeffTMBG
I just realized that we're 3 episodes in and Fujiko hasn't double-crossed Lupin yet. Perhaps tonight. Grade: C+

Yeah, what's up with Fujiko? This is the first time I've seen the 2nd series, and she seems a bit different from her movie character. She's way too loyal and reliable, and hasn't really used her "charms" to her advantage yet. Have to give it time I guess.

[moreysurf8]

This was a good ep. It wasn't as good as last nights though. The exploding bear trap on the ass was funny and I especially enjoyed Lupin's line as he was being eaten by the mechanical nessie. "Help Im being eaten by quaint folk legend"
or at least thats what I think he said
Grade: B+

[Mynd Hed]

I haven't seen or read the actual stories in question myself, but from what I understand, it played out something like how Twilight Suzuka became a regular in Outlaw Star: Samurai tries to kill protagonist and fails, samurai determined to correct mistake, samurai runs in later to stop other bad guys from killing protagonist (and stealing his/her thunder), protagonist & friends grow on samurai, samurai eventually decides to take raincheck on vengeance and becomes an irregular ally of protagonist.

Hmm, sounds like his character might have influenced something like 3/4 of the Dragonball/Z/GT villains. (Tien, Piccolo, Vegeta, etc.)

Wednesday:
Not as good as Tuesday's episode, but still better than Monday's. Some funny gags, some decent action, but overall it just kind of seemed to fall flat. Did anybody else notice the headline in the newspaper on the beach at the beginning of the episode? It said, "Singer Receives Suspended Sentence for Smoking Pot." Very cute, very Simpsons-esque (although years before the Simpsons was more than a glimmer in Matt Groening's eyes, of course) hidden gag. Nice.

Overall Grade: C+

[Crimefighter]

For the Cliff Hanger question, there's a few sites on laser disc arcade games, and of course the Killer List Of Video Games (KLOV). Try a Google search, you shall find it.

[hardway35]

What was that song Fujiko sings? Was it a real song or just something they made up?

[J.C.]

Originally posted by hardway35
What was that song Fujiko sings? Was it a real song or just something they made up?

That's what I was wondering. I want to say 'yes' because it sounds so familiar, but can't put my finger on what it's called if it is real.

[Mike Toole]

Originally posted by Desslar
Hmm, sounds promising. Are the episodes unedited? Or do they have the opening and ending credits chopped off like on Adult Swim?

The episodes are indeed uncut. As for the OP/ED, they're good, with two exceptions:
1. In the original OP, each character is introduced-- there's a brief shot of the character with their name underneath in kanji/katakana. In the DVD's OP, those names are 'overlaid' with romaji that says the same thing. So –¼‘O is replaced with 'Jigen', ƒ‹ƒpƒ“ is replaced with 'Lupin', etc. Not a major change.
2. The ED is instrumental, instead of vocal. Same footage. I believe there's a clean OP/ED included with the disc that contains the vocal piece. I'll have to check.

I think it's worth at least renting the first disc, if your local video store snags it. Those R2s are awfully pricey!

[Joe Tully]

Originally posted by hardway35
What was that song Fujiko sings? Was it a real song or just something they made up?

It was a Scottish song, Comin' Through The Rye.

Lyrics at http://www.worldburnsclub.com/poems/translations/coming_through_the_rye.htm though I think she might have been using different lyrics than either of those sets.

It's been used in some Looney Tunes, so maybe that's why it's familiar.

[randomguy]

The players are all in place.

Seriously, it kicks major ass to see Lupin the 3rd on broadcast television. I couldn't be happier that it's found a proper home. You know what Lupin the 3rd is? It's just a supremely fun show. Don't pick it apart or look for plot holes- just lay back and enjoy the ride. The cast of characters is incredibly endearing, and I love both the humor and the globetrotting nature of the series (especially when most anime are confined to Japan). Yes, it's old, and it looks like it, but it does look MUCH better than Mobile Suit Gundam... it's much more fluid and consistent.

Not much to say about any of the episodes this week specifically... just keep 'em coming. Here's hoping this show finds itself a good-sized fanbase and/or pulls in the ratings.

Oh, and the music rocks.

[lostrune]

(BTW, in the book Lupin was reading in the plane, the Japanese misspelled "Loch Ness" into IIRC "Loke Ness." I'm sure there are other misspellings I just don't recall right now.... Ah, 70s and 80s anime, when Japanese couldn't care less to check their English.)

Anyhoo, when Fujiko was chained into the wall and the bad guy took out his metallic hook, did anyone think (or wish) he was going to do something else to Fujiko, or more specifically to Fujiko's attire? :D

(As another segue, Fujiko's English VA also does Zoe in Digimon Frontier, among other girly roles.)

[Chris Wood]

Originally posted by lostrune
Anyhoo, when Fujiko was chained into the wall and the bad guy took out his metallic hook, did anyone think (or wish) he was going to do something else to Fujiko, or more specifically to Fujiko's attire? :

If that's your kind of scene there's a bit in the Mystery of Mamo movie when the evil henchman whips a tied up Fujiko, and I think shreds her clothing.

[Spike Mcdougal]

Originally posted by Desslar
If that's your kind of scene there's a bit in the Mystery of Mamo movie when the evil henchman whips a tied up Fujiko, and I think shreds her clothing.

I think that was in Twlight.

Talk about "booby traps" :D

Ooooo first appearance of Fujiko with blonde hair

[JTurner954]

Fourth episode: Well, I was kind of worried in the beginning becuase it felt like it was going to be like Episode 3 and not be that good. But after the van switch, everything got really good (And I'm talking story and comedy). And Lupin got a reward even though they lost the van in the end. Excellent.

Overall grade: B+

[Dogasu]

(BTW, in the book Lupin was reading in the plane, the Japanese misspelled "Loch Ness" into IIRC "Loke Ness." I'm sure there are other misspellings I just don't recall right now.... Ah, 70s and 80s anime, when Japanese couldn't care less to check their English.)

They still don't care. In Outlaw Star, they see a sign that says "Congraturations." The sign at the check-in station on Dragon Ball Z says "Wellcome." In Pokemon, when Satoshi (Ash) is explaining how he got his hat (in the Primeape episode), the signs in the background say "Pockemon Leag."

So they still don't give a crap. Engrish.com (http://www.engrish.com) is proof of that.

[JeffTMBG]

Another decent episode that I'd previously seen fansubbed. Can't wait until next Thursday when they start becoming new to me. Anyway, this was a fairly fun episode, featuring the first Fujiko double-cross we've seen. Expect many more to come :)

Grade: B-

[Arde]

In today's ep, was Fujiko's ass actually digi-bikini-ed???

Today's ep was better than yesterday's but still not excelling the ep on Tuesday. Good plot twists after another.
And then of course, Lupin having fun with Fujiko...all right, not that fun but "Any score's a score", right?

3.5/5 for today's ep.

[Master Moron]

hmmmmm...I don't know, I'm not liking the series as much as the rest of you. I mean, why are we supposed to root for Lupin? In the Loch-Ness monster episode I was rooting for the villain. I mean, who wouldn't want to cage up Nessie and make a huge profit. I really don't see why Lupin and co. cared about the monster so much.

It seems like Zenigata puts handcuffs on Lupin on every episode, yet Lupin somehow manages to get out of them every time. Are his hands really thin or something? How does he get his hands free everytime? And why does Zenigata bother with handcuffs if they never work?

I don't like the Toonami-ish opening, and I certainly didn't expect a chopped up ending as well. Is it just me or do the closing credits for Pioneer's properties always get screwed up one way or the other when they air on Cartoon Network.

Someone told me mentioned that you have to ignore the flaws on Lupin. I guess that means you have to be wasted or something before you watch it. That could work...but then I'd probably be too drunk to watch Inu-yasha and if I got wasted when Home Movies was on that squiggle-vision crap would give me seizures.

The one thing O did like about the series was the "Lupin the third!" chanting. Kind of reminds me of the "Sailor Moon!" transformation chanting.

[JustJack]

If that's your kind of scene there's a bit in the Mystery of Mamo movie when the evil henchman whips a tied up Fujiko, and I think shreds her clothing.

Yep, as Spike said...it's Twilight Gemini which has that fun little scene. That movie has a few other fun little Fujiko booby scenes...and not just Fujiko. Most Lupin movies end up having Fujiko around just to see her completely nekkid at one point or the other. And thus, the glory which is the Lupin series.

Ahhhh...a week of a good old series. The animation of the first two episodes kiiiinda bugged me at first(I'm not use to the old rugged animation, now that I've been watching such smooth digitally enhanced shows...), but I was sitting happy by Wednsday, finally use to the old look. And the episodes...well..it's as good as it's going to get for that time period. Lupin rocks all things....I love Lupin.

Hey...here's a fun little project for the kiddies. If you have the DVDs, or tape the show, pause it for a second, and measure the width of Fujiko's breasts....which are the same width as Lupin's shoulders....wow. :p :D ;)

I think we all know what Monkey Punch was thinking with that one...

[Nexus810]

Ah, 70s and 80s anime, when Japanese couldn't care less to check their English.)

Indeed they still do not care... www.engrish.com (http://www.engrish.com)

go there adn be amazed by the countless misuses of English in Japan (its not anime over there just their many many missues of english on advertisements, items, etc.)

[Chris Wood]

Originally posted by JeffTMBG
Another decent episode that I'd previously seen fansubbed. Can't wait until next Thursday when they start becoming new to me. Anyway, this was a fairly fun episode, featuring the first Fujiko double-cross we've seen. Expect many more to come :)

Grade: B-

Yeah, it was about time Fujiko showed her devious side. The gang was in fine form in this episode. Great story, even though the villain ruined a great plan by foolishly exposing himself at the end.

[Chris Wood]

Originally posted by Master Moron [/i]hmmmmm...I don't know, I'm not liking the series as much as the rest of you. I mean, why are we supposed to root for Lupin?

Why not? He's the hero, and one wild and craazy guy.

It seems like Zenigata puts handcuffs on Lupin on every episode, yet Lupin somehow manages to get out of them every time. Are his hands really thin or something? How does he get his hands free everytime? And why does Zenigata bother with handcuffs if they never work?

Well, Zenigata is a bit of an Inspector Clouseau type bumbler, and Lupin is a bit of a Houdini type escape artist. At any rate, precise realism is not high on this show's list of concerns. It's just a silly action/comedy.

I don't like the Toonami-ish opening, and I certainly didn't expect a chopped up ending as well. Is it just me or do the closing credits for Pioneer's properties always get screwed up one way or the other when they air on Cartoon Network.

I have to agree here. That opening sucks. Those lame clip shows have a way of making even a really cool show look very unappealing. As for the ending credits, the original, like many 70s anime, has a really slow, perhaps sappy ending theme song. Maybe its omission isn't all that bad.

Someone told me mentioned that you have to ignore the flaws on Lupin. I guess that means you have to be wasted or something before you watch it.

Flaws? What flaws? The only thing you have to do is realize that it's just a fun show and not expect great depth.

The one thing O did like about the series was the "Lupin the third!" chanting. Kind of reminds me of the "Sailor Moon!" transformation chanting.

Arrgh! Never compare that show with Lupin. I do like the chanting though.

[Chris Wood]

Originally posted by JustJack
Yep, as Spike said...it's Twilight Gemini which has that fun little scene.

Actually, no. There may be a similar scene in Twilight Gemini (I've only seen that once), but the scene I was referring to was in Mystery of Mamo. In that film Fujiko is employed by some nasty types to get the better of Lupin, but in the end she betrays her employers. They don't take kindly to this, and whip her in a rather brutal scene to find out Lupin's whereabouts. Or something like that.

Can anyone remember which film it is when Fujiko gets completely naked on camera and then gets into bed with a sick ( I think) Lupin? I think that was the only time in any of the anime where they actually seem to get "intimate."

[TnAdct1]

Originally posted by Desslar
Can anyone remember which film it is when Fujiko gets completely naked on camera and then gets into bed with a sick ( I think) Lupin? I think that was the only time in any of the anime where they actually seem to get "intimate."

I think that may be Die! Nostradamus (sp?), but I'm not 100% certain, though I do remember Fujiko getting naked in front of a beat-up Lupin.

Joe Klemm

[Mynd Hed]

go there adn be amazed by the countless misuses of English in Japan (its not anime over there just their many many missues of english on advertisements, items, etc.)

Makes you wonder about Japanese writing in America, doesn't it? You've got to wonder if it's as horribly mangled.

[Chosen Raven]

Personaly, I find this show to be mediocre at best(and it's not because of the animation). There's no character developement, no interesting stories, the characters are all cliched(course it was made in the 70's), and personaly it's just flat out boring(to me at least). It's something I just watch to pass the time.

And you guys that are so interested in seeing naked women get beat with whips....just....argh, forget it. Perverts. :mad:

[Lupin the Wolf]

Originally posted by Desslar
Actually, no. There may be a similar scene in Twilight Gemini (I've only seen that once), but the scene I was referring to was in Mystery of Mamo. In that film Fujiko is employed by some nasty types to get the better of Lupin, but in the end she betrays her employers. They don't take kindly to this, and whip her in a rather brutal scene to find out Lupin's whereabouts. Or something like that.

Twilight Gemini did indeed have an old peer of Goemon's under the employment of the villain, and he whipped Fujiko's top off in attempting to get her to "talk." In "Mamo," the scene involving Fujiko getting whipped is actually Lupin's imagination running wild. After all, Fujiko never really betrayed Mamo, she went to Lupin all beaten and ragged so she could knock him out and take him to Mamo's hideout.

Can anyone remember which film it is when Fujiko gets completely naked on camera and then gets into bed with a sick ( I think) Lupin? I think that was the only time in any of the anime where they actually seem to get "intimate."

Lupin is shivering from hypothermia, the the brazilian boy Sergio can't help him, so Fujiko, with "amnesia" (she thinks her name is Tanya), lays in bed with Lupin nude to transfer to him her body heat. It's kind of a silly throwaway scene when you see it in the movie's context, and just another excuse to show Fujiko naked.
The most "intimate" Lupin and Fujiko get is in another case of amnesia (a little longer this time), in "Da Capo of Love: Fujiko's Unlucky Days," the 1999 TV movie.

[Chris Wood]

Originally posted by Chosen Raven
And you guys that are so interested in seeing naked women get beat with whips....just....argh, forget it. Perverts.

Well, the whip isn't really necessary, but just tends to be good at removing characters' clothing, and I think we can all agree the more Fujiko the merrier.

[Artemis]

I fell asleep during Home Movies and didn't wake up until 20 minutes into Lupin III :( *cries* It's a good thing this show is episodic so quasi-missing an episode won't ruin the enjoyment of the next.

[Chris Wood]

In "Mamo," the scene involving Fujiko getting whipped is actually Lupin's imagination running wild. After all, Fujiko never really betrayed Mamo, she went to Lupin all beaten and ragged so she could knock him out and take him to Mamo's hideout.

Doh! That's right. I have to watch that again.


Lupin is shivering from hypothermia, the the brazilian boy Sergio can't help him, so Fujiko, with "amnesia" (she thinks her name is Tanya), lays in bed with Lupin nude to transfer to him her body heat. It's kind of a silly throwaway scene when you see it in the movie's context, and just another excuse to show Fujiko naked.

That's the scene I was thinking of. But which movie is it in?

The most "intimate" Lupin and Fujiko get is in another case of amnesia (a little longer this time), in "Da Capo of Love: Fujiko's Unlucky Days," the 1999 TV movie.

Hmm, don't remember that one too well either. Time to go rent some Lupin.

[raykremer]

Heh, a robot Nessie submarie. Saw one of those in a Gargoyles episode.

I'm getting a real Roadrunner/Wile Coyote rif from Lupin and Pops. Good stuff.

[Nitrowax]

isn't this show a 1972 or 78 show ? i mean its its very good show and stuff but im just wandering

[Chris Wood]

Originally posted by Nitrowax
isn't this show a 1972 or 78 show ? i mean its its very good show and stuff but im just wandering

It is the second TV series (1977-1980) which is currently airing on Adult Swim. The first series was broadcast in 1971-72 and the third series in 1984-85.

[Lupin the Wolf]

I was just clarifying what the other poster said...it was in Die! Nostradamus.
http://www.LupintheThird.net/anime/nostradamus.htm

[Chris Wood]

Originally posted by Lupin the Wolf
I was just clarifying what the other poster said...it was in Die! Nostradamus.
http://www.LupintheThird.net/anime/nostradamus.htm

Thanks. That was the silly one about the huge skyscraper right?

[JJc14]

wednesday night:

an average episode that failed to bring anything new to the table...there was nothing i severely disliked about it, though maybe it's just because many other series have used the loch ness monster prior to my viewing of this: C


thursday night:

now this is what i'm talking about...double-crossings and wild antics all over made this a thrill to watch...from what i'm hearing, fujiko crosses the gang on many occassions, but i honestly didn't see it coming here...hope there are more creative episodes like this to come: B+

[Mugen]

Wow, Fujiko has been really showing her crack lately, and I guess WS doesn't see nothing wrong with it. God bless them. :D

[Midou Ban]

I don't get it. Is all they do is try to steal money for 155 episodes or do they do something else?

[SirLemming]

Yeah, that's pretty strange how Fujiko's butt seems to keep popping up... I really thought TV kinda cracked down (huh huh) on female butts, as evidenced by some Inu-Yasha edits, but whatever... Exactly how is she wearing those bikini bottoms, anyway?

[Chris Wood]

Originally posted by Midou Ban
I don't get it. Is all they do is try to steal money for 155 episodes or do they do something else?

Yeah, that's pretty much what they do, broken up by running from Zenigata and occasionally taking on an evil madman. What's not to get?

[Lupin the Wolf]

Die! Nostradamus IS the silly one about the giant skyscraper with the pendulum....(like a pendulum would REALLY help)....

And yes, "Lupin the Third" is basically all about various thefts, though sometimes they help people too. Occasional madmen are always a plus, as well.

[JetMaster5]

Lupin (Week 1):

Since none of these episodes have any depth and they're all stand-alones with the same formula, there's no point for me to review each of these episodes. So I'll just review them in a week format.

Lupin the Third is really a mixed bag to me. Perhaps there's no continuity (since the episodes are episodic), and the fact that there's no diversity in the plot (other than trying to think of something to steal) which could get repetitive, but I'm not really use to Lupin all that much.

On the other hand, the comedy is good (most of the time), the animation is forgiveable, and it makes you wonder what Lupin would do in the next heist. But that's the problem. If you run out of good ideas on stealing, then this series is gonna fall.

Surprisingly, the "Lu-pawn the Thiiiiirrrdd" song wasn't as repetitive as I thought it'd be. It actually fits in the episodes and it's feels pretty good to hear it again.

[Master Moron]

Originally posted by Desslar
Why not? He's the hero, and one wild and craazy guy.



He's not a hero. And Yosemite Sam is a wild and crazy guy but we're not supposed to root for him. I feel bad for some of the guys who's plans are ruined by Lupin and I don't know why we're supposed to root for banks to get robbed. I mean, don't we all have money in banks? Do we really want our banks to get robbed?

[Lord Trunks]

I liked the first week, but I wonder if Pioneer will get the rights to the first and third series of Lupin the 3rd, I want to see the differences, for the whole weeks showing of Lupin the 3rd: A

[Mynd Hed]

I don't think you have to root for Lupin to enjoy this show. There are plenty of shows out there that have a less-than-admirable main character. I mean, look at Bugs Bunny. If you were to actually look at the majority of his actions in any kind of rational moral framework, you'd conclude that he was a very mean-spirited character. But it's just a silly cartoon, so we don't look at it that way. I think Lupin is a show that you get best results from if you look at it from that perspective.

[JTurner954]

Well, this show definitely has a style to it.

Like I said earlier, it's not trying to be deep and spectacular with its animation like Cowboy Bebop does so it's fun to see how they get into the situations and how they get out of them. As a bonus, you get "Pops" trying to capture them which adds into the "how are they going to avoid him and/or how do they outsmart them when they are captured" mentality.

It doesn't take itself too seriously (which they have proven over and over) and that is one of the reasons why I like it.

[Anime Freak]

Does anyone know if Lupin and the gang will pull off any robberies without any problems and get what they want? If not,then its totally stupid. I don't want this show to be like Bebop(In the beginning they caught tons of bountys,but in the end they never got anything hardly). Overall though,Thursday's eppy was awesome! This show has really picked up since that not so great first episode.

[Maphmaa]

it's not trying to be deep and spectacular with its animation like Cowboy Bebop does

Are you saying that Bebop was only trying to be deep? Just wondering.

(In the beginning they caught tons of bountys,but in the end they never got anything hardly)

Were we watching the same show? I don't remember them catching anything until Episode 8 and the last bounty they caught was the Teddy Bomber in Episode 22.


As for Lupin, I really like the characters as well as the diversity of the locales. I also enjoy seeing their heists, some of them are actually quite brilliant (namely the one in Brasil). The only thing that could be a problem is Zenigata. He seems like a competent Interpol agent, yet he does some really stupid things when he captures Lupin. Sometimes he does the same stupid thing multiple times per episode when he was soooooo close...

[JTurner954]

Originally posted by Maphmaa
Are you saying that Bebop was only trying to be deep? Just wondering.


I used the word "AND" to say it wasn't the only reason. Read it again.

[Trigger]

Lupin the Third was great! A+ for the week. I now know what the hype was about after all those years.

[Chris Wood]

Originally posted by jetwing5
Lupin (Week 1):

Since none of these episodes have any depth and they're all stand-alones with the same formula, there's no point for me to review each of these episodes. So I'll just review them in a week format.

Lupin the Third is really a mixed bag to me. Perhaps there's no continuity (since the episodes are episodic), and the fact that there's no diversity in the plot (other than trying to think of something to steal) which could get repetitive, but I'm not really use to Lupin all that much.

On the other hand, the comedy is good (most of the time), the animation is forgiveable, and it makes you wonder what Lupin would do in the next heist. But that's the problem. If you run out of good ideas on stealing, then this series is gonna fall.


To put it simply, it's a lot like the James Bond series. You pretty much know what you're going to get, but still you can't wait for the next installment to see how you're going to get it. If you like 007 then Lupin will probably appeal as well.

[Chris Wood]

Originally posted by Master Moron
He's not a hero. And Yosemite Sam is a wild and crazy guy but we're not supposed to root for him. I feel bad for some of the guys who's plans are ruined by Lupin and I don't know why we're supposed to root for banks to get robbed. I mean, don't we all have money in banks? Do we really want our banks to get robbed?

Sure he's a hero. Heck, if not for Lupin and company, the world would have been destroyed or enslaved several dozen times. Now of course Lupin always gets involved in thwarting plans of world domination because he's after some treasure, but that's the nature of the beast.

Most of the things Lupin steals are unclaimed or owned by corrupt people anyway. Don't take it so literally. It's all in fun.

[Conekiller]

Ok, I'll hunker donw and comment on the week now that I've been able to see them all

Monday: A fun introduction into the show, kinda lame baddie, but it had some good moments. I liked Goemon obliterating the door. A-

Tuesday: Awww yeah! this is what I'm talkin about. some great lines and Lupin can't controll himself around a hottie. nice! Jesus smaks the hell outta some helicopters, you can't PAY for entertainment like that! A+

Wed: Nessie one, nt too good, but not too bad either. Fujiko's song reminded me of a childs nurerry rhyme, with a twist ("beast with two backs"...if I'm not mistaken that's a metaphor for people having sex) and the words on the screen said "Lake Ness" not "Loke Ness" B

Thus: Woo hoo, this was a blast, I've seen it 3 times already. I feel sorry for Zenigata, he tries so hard. he's just outclassed, that's all. He needs a new pair of handcuffs, these seem defective or something:meatwad: and I guess the bathing suit of Fujicakes wasn't added in, she just had her top un-done A+

if this keeps up,I'm gonna lose alot of sleep and have lots of fun!

[Beat]

So what's up with the suit? That was an obvious edit. I'd think that they'd leard by now how to cover stuff up effectivley. As it was, it was just a see-through thong. Not that I'm complaning...

[MothMonsterMan]

I dunno if this has been brought up, but is the guy who voices Lupin the same guy who voiced Rick Hunter in Robotech?

[SSDDR]

Desslar, the moive with that scene is indeed fujiko's unlucky days. I got my Dvds today i orderd off ebay, and yeah, they are obviously pirate (!$@$%#), so ill be coffing up for american dvds too. oh well, $35 isnt too much of a waste. but now i have the hitler episode, as well as the proper opening and ending, so im happy. heres a quick write up of the Cut episode.

Lupin and co. head to Germany in search of a high ranking officer in the nazi regime because they heard he know the location of a great treasure left by hitler. They kidnap him and try the direct approach of asking, but he refuses to talk. So they take him out for a good time, and Fujiko trys to convince him that they can all be happoy and live like that forever with the treasure, which also fails. So they knock him out and put him in a stage they built to look like the end of the nazi regime, and lupin dresses as hitler to get the information out of him. He talks, Lupin gets the info, and goes to the sunken ship the treasure was on. Turns out the treasure was a bunch of papers from when hitler was in school, and childhood drawings. So once again, all that hard work for nothing.

[Lupin the Wolf]

The bathing suit Fujiko is wearing at the conclusion of episode 5: "Gold Smuggling 101" is NOT an American addition. It was in the original Japanese prints. Where everyone got the idea it was an edit is beyond me.
She is not wearing a top, because it was loosened so Lupin can rub lotion on her back.