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Joe Tully
12-14-2002, 10:50 PM
More double-dipped episodes of Inu Yasha back-to-back! Now with added Miroku!

KingKoopa
12-14-2002, 11:24 PM
This first Inuyasha wasn't all that great. Here's hoping the next one will be better!

And I don't see any reason why it won't be, with Sesshomaru and Naruku.

They should've said "Inuyasha continues next" rather than "Inuyasha complete Inuyasha next".

EightOh
12-14-2002, 11:26 PM
Inu-Yasha: The beginning just seemed really... off, I guess. Almost all of the voice acting felt sort of detached and wooden, and the artist's voice grated on me really quickly. The second half got better, and the ending was okay. Overall, it wasn't terrible, I just couldn't really get too into it. 8.7

Swirly-eyed Inu looked very familiar, somehow. ;)

Ooh, new bumpers...

Mugen
12-14-2002, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by KingKoopa
This first Inuyasha wasn't all that great. Here's hoping the next one will be better!

And I don't see any reason why it won't be, with Sesshomaru and Naruku.

Well it's nice to hear David Kaye's voice again.

Masamune2052
12-14-2002, 11:27 PM
In the bumper, that looked like a full youkai Inu Yasha. Anybody else notice that? (The red stripes on his face are an indication)

EightOh
12-14-2002, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by KingKoopa
They should've said "Inuyasha continues next" rather than "Inuyasha complete Inuyasha next". Hehe. "Make up your mind already!"

Mugen
12-14-2002, 11:30 PM
Well it's back to TV-14 Inu-Yasha. This should be good.

Masamune2052
12-14-2002, 11:42 PM
HAHAHA, "It goes against my religion.". That is Miroku for you ^^

EightOh
12-14-2002, 11:43 PM
Wasn't that a right arm? Or maybe I'm just mistaken.

Achika
12-14-2002, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by EightOh
Swirly-eyed Inu looked very familiar, somehow. ;)

And cute!

Arde
12-14-2002, 11:45 PM
gah...even inu yasha is much more righteous than miroku.
talk about a monk/priest!!!

hardway35
12-14-2002, 11:45 PM
It goes against my religion.
I wonder if thats a Blazing Dragons reference.

EightOh
12-14-2002, 11:55 PM
Inu-Yasha: Miroku's quickly becoming one of my favorites, with his great lines and total disregard for ethics. This was really a good episode, especially when compared to the dud that preceded it. The Sesshomaru/Naraku alliance certainly appears to be more formidable than the previous antagonists' efforts. Nice to see Kagome making herself useful, too. 9.6

Only 6 days and 23 hours until Inu-Yasha...

Masamune2052
12-14-2002, 11:56 PM
Well he said a lot more stuff that sounded serious then he ended it with "It goes against my religion".

Also, it wasn't a full youkai Inu Yasha in the bumper, it was merely him with a poison burn on his face ><http://www.rin-chan.com/drip.gif

KingKoopa
12-15-2002, 12:02 AM
Anyone have problems with local ads this week?

SirLemming
12-15-2002, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by EightOh
Wasn't that a right arm? Or maybe I'm just mistaken.

Yeah, I totally noticed that too!


Sometimes I wish they'd get more creative with the episode titles and coming attractions. It would have been a cool moment of realization seeing Sesshomaru return -- and an even cooler moment when you realize that the fabled Naraku is on the scene. Especially when the episode's coming on in about 5 minutes anyway, couldn't they just keep it to themselves for a bit?

JTurner954
12-15-2002, 12:03 AM
Inuyasha: Both episodes were very good even though I missed the 10:30 episode from last week and was kind of confused with the role of the monk (this week they were nice enough to say Inuyasha next). "See you soon" and then there's the second episode. What a great feeling. Cool cliffhanger too.

Overall grade: A (same grade for both episodes)

Great start to ASA. Hope Gundam 0080 is also good.

sedorna
12-15-2002, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by EightOh


Swirly-eyed Inu looked very familiar, somehow. ;)



Indeed. I almost expected to hear him say "oro". :)

Masamune2052
12-15-2002, 12:06 AM
He's probably just a demented otaku with smelly feet.
Hey, my feet don't smell! :p

Arde
12-15-2002, 12:07 AM
Inu Yasha:
First Ep: Nothing special here, just another after the shards ep although it feels more like a filler ep. Miroku's lines are quite funny, though.

3.5/5

Second Ep: Sesshomaru gains help from Naraku!! And man oh man, it's really problems for the good guys. Sesshomaru is as usual powerful and scary and Naraku, well, he's just downright creepy. We get to see Tetsuiga's full power, the battles are awesome, Miroku's right arm has been disabled by the creepy Naraku, and Kagome proving herself as not just Inu's sidekick/damsel-in-distress in battles.
And, of course, who can't laugh from the greatness of Miroku the monk/priest/con-artist/thief/etc/etc/etc... :)
Can't wait for the next ep!!
5/5

SpaceCowboy
12-15-2002, 12:11 AM
Inu Yasha: The first episode was okay and the second one was great!
A
A+

Cowboy Bebop: One of my favorite episodes where we get to meet Ed!
A+

Mugen
12-15-2002, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by KingKoopa
Anyone have problems with local ads this week?

Nope, not this time.

Arxane
12-15-2002, 12:17 AM
Tonight’s episodes of “Inu-Yasha” consisted of a shard-hunting segment and a sibling rivalry segment. How did it play out? Quite well.

The Hell Painter episode was one of my favorite shard-hunting episodes. Granted, it was slightly rewritten for the anime, but it still made a much better transition than the Noh-Mask episode. And Miroku officially joins the group. Nothing wrong with that. The next episode introduces Naraku, and I am happy. I knew Paul Dobsen could voice Naraku perfectly. The episode itself was pretty good, although the story arc is again split up and now we’ll have to wait until next week. Bother!

As for the voices…again, Paul Dobsen voiced Naraku perfectly. David Kaye and Don Brown returned wonderfully as Sesshoumaru and Jaken, and our main group’s VAs manage to hold out all right. The script was also on one of its better sides, although it’s evident Trish Ledoux still likes to take liberties now and then with her Trishisms (I had no idea soapboxes were around in feudal Japan). If anything, I’m just glad the script doesn’t overplay Kagome’s valley girl skit anymore. Oh, sure, it’s still there, but not as annoyingly bad as “That is so uncool!”

Overall, these episodes deserve, respectively, A-/A. A couple stumbles here and there, but they weren’t that bad.

Will Sturnick
12-15-2002, 12:22 AM
Inuyasha: 89%

17. The Cursed Ink of the Hell Painter:
This is the last "filler" episode for a while, 27 is the next one. I always found this one rather boring.

Inuyasha: 100%

18. Naraku and Sesshomaru join Forces
The Na-RAK-ku didn't seem so obvious this episode. I was surprised that that they kept Saisimayou (or however it's spelt). An awesome ep.

Cowboy Bebop: 96%

9. Jamming with Edward
Ed is Here!

Yu Yu Hakusho: 92%

18. Sieryu the Blue Dragon
The only bad point in this episode is Byakko didn't die the first time, stupid tiger. I'm glad Byakko finally bit the dust.

Gundam 0080: 90%

5. Bernie - Say it Ain't So!
My only question is where is that Francesca place? Things are all geared up for the finale, and what a grand finale it will be.

Mobile Suit Gundam: 97%

24. Black Tri-Star
Matilda's death, affected me way more than Ryu's (Hell, I didn't about Ryu at all). But why did the Tri-Stars all sound hick-ish?

Masamune2052
12-15-2002, 12:27 AM
Looks like they've got new bumpers for all shows now.

EightOh
12-15-2002, 12:27 AM
Cowboy Bebop: Edward is a 7 foot tall ex-basketball star Hindu voodoo drag queen alien... that about describes it. What better way to introduce a great character than with a great (and very funny) episode? 9.5

Joe Tully
12-15-2002, 12:32 AM
I really liked both episodes of Inu Yasha, but obviously the second is the big one. It's cool to see Shippo having more use in battle, as his attacks were at least somewhat effective in the second episode. It was kind of weird to see Kagome wander off looking for an antidote and then reappear out of nowhere. I wonder how Sesshomaru can wield the sword so well? Is he just really good at faking the will to protect humans, or something else? Maybe this will be explained later. Naraku sure is keeping himself mysterious. He didn't even bother to help out Sesshomaru, which is a little odd. The show depends a lot on the element of mystery, but as long as we get to see some of the mysteries get solved for each few that pop up, it shouldn't get too repetitive.

I think that the preview at the end might've spoiled things a little bit, but I'll bite my tongue on what it seemed to be going on.

I'll give the episodes A- and A respectively.

Masamune2052
12-15-2002, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by Joe Tully
I wonder how Sesshomaru can wield the sword so well?
It's kind of weird, in future episodes Sesshomaru knows what to do to perform the next strongest attack with Tetssaiga before Inu Yasha does, even though he doesn't own it.

EightOh
12-15-2002, 12:58 AM
Yu Yu Hakusho: NOW is Byakko dead? Really? Please? I actually sort of dreaded this one after last week's yawn-inspiring episode, but I was pleasantly surprised. There were some funny moments(most notably Kuwabara's Hiei imitation, and the cookbook was great, too), and it actually sort of moved things along, with a bit tacked on the end that takes us into next week's action. Hiei's certainly a badass, isn't he? 9.3

Achika
12-15-2002, 01:13 AM
The four saint beets? That was good.

And there's a 0080 edit already.

Al: "People are lost easily huh?"

Lost eh? Strange edit seeing as how many times die was left in.

Masamune2052
12-15-2002, 01:13 AM
Change Inu-Yasha to Yu Yu Hakusho, EightOh. ^^http://www.rin-chan.com/drip.gif http://www.rin-chan.com/drip.gif

Joe Tully
12-15-2002, 01:20 AM
BTW, I think someone should make themself an animated avatar of swirly-eyed Inu Yasha. :D :p I'd consider doing it if I could.

Masamune2052
12-15-2002, 01:26 AM
What kind of currency do they use, a Height?

EightOh
12-15-2002, 01:29 AM
Gundam 0080: That was outstanding. At this point, I care about the characters, and to see this happen to them actually touches me in a manner that I wasn't really expecting. The enormity of everything has finally struck Al, and it's painful(in the "man, I really feel for them" way, not the "die already, damn you!" way) to see him and Bernie go through this. I'll be sad to see this go after next week. 9.7

And there's a 0080 edit already.

Al: "People are lost easily huh?"And I don't believe for a moment that Bernie wanted a soda. :D

Change Inu-Yasha to Yu Yu Hakusho, EightOh.Hello, I'm a moron(and also a little sleep deprived)! May I take your order? D'oh.

JTurner954
12-15-2002, 01:43 AM
Gundam 0080: I'm still liking 0083 more, but it seems to be slowly picking up. No wonder they are playing this now instead of in October. Overall grade: B-

BTW, does anyone know if CN has any plans of bringing back any of the Tenchi shows?? I'd really like to see Tenchi Universe since I was really entertained by Tenchi Muyo.

Masamune2052
12-15-2002, 02:18 AM
Inu Yasha: Cursed Ink of the Hell-Painter - well this was an ok episode, and we get to see more about Miroku's way of life. The "It's against my religion" quote was priceless. Also, Inu Yasha is jealous of Miroku's ability to get the best place to stay in the whole land because Inu Yasha can't do that and Kagome is impressed. The edit of the guy cutting his arm was kind of weird and I can kind of understand why they would edit it out........kind of. Overall, this episode was ok.

Inu Yasha: Naraku and Sesshomaru Join Forces - now this episode kicked ass! First off, Sesshomaru is possibly my favorite character because he's a bad ass full youkai slicem' up kind of guy. He also knows how to properly use Tetssaiga so Inu Yasha should just hand it over, lol. Naraku has his Saimyousho to render Miroku useless and we also get to see more about Naraku. His VA did pretty good, he's got that deep-evil voice that sounds pretty sweet, especially for a hanyou. The animation qulaity was absolutely superb in this episode too, hopefully it gets better and better if possible. Great fight scene too, now I just have to get through my finals this week so I can see the end of the battle. One more thing, I don't get how Kagome can tell Miroku "Oh, I'll go find an antidote" when he get's poisoned by the Saimyousho. Where the hell are you going to find an antidote? Your in a battle!

Cowboy Bebop: Jamming with Edward - Ed is not my favorite character, but she's still cool. This seems to be one of the more, er, umm, "light headed" episodes before we get too deep in Spike's past and all. Also had one of Spike's best quotes about the three things he hates the most: kids, animals, and women with an attitude.

Yu Yu Hakusho: Seiryu the Blue Dragon - who follows Sesshomaru in the bad ass genre: Hiei! Hiei is my favorite character in Yu Yu Hakusho followed closely by Yusuke so this episode was awesome. Also, we get to see him fight with a sword and I really dig sword fights and all, so it was good. Kuwabara is officially the comic relief in this arc and I hope he's not in the next one. A few examples was when he acted all 'giggly happy' and said something like "Well, Shorty ain't so bad after all!" in a glittery voice. That and someone needs to get him to put a shirt on or something.

Gundam 008: Say it Ain't So, Bernie! - Jeeze, WS had a field day on edits according to LFV. If it weren't for him we'd be left in the dark about Garcia's death. I kept hearing Feddies say "Yah, two Zeke's got out" but they only showed Bernie. Other stupid edits were "Oh yah, people get lost" and "Gimme a soda". Kind of reminds me of Endless Waltz where Duo said "Yay, let's go back and celebrate with some wine!" and goody-goody Quatre has to say "Sure, as long as it's not alcoholic.". Oh well, this series is almost over.

Mobile Suit Gundam: Black Tri-Star - 'Whew wee doggy, dem g'dern Feddies kan just high tail it outta here cuz we da Black Tri-Star, yee haww!!!'............. Yah, I'm sick of it too. The Black-Tri star should be feared ace pilots with cool mobile suits, not a bunch of trigger happy rednecks! Feh, fortuantely they have really good fighting skills and we get to see the G-Bull/Fighter/Armor thingy whatever. One thing I didn't get also, when Ryu died everyone was like "If I was a better Gundam pilot he woudn't of died", "If I was a better operator he wouldn't of died", "If I wasn't so stupid he wouldn't of died". But then Matilda, who seems to be the crush of every male Feddie who's under 20, dies and no one sheds a tear. Cmon'!

Overall, it was a good night and I can't wait till next week for 2 more Inu and the finale of 0080. Both Inu Yasha's get A+'s, Cowboy Bebop gets a B+, Yu Yu Hakuso gets A, Gundam 0080 gets C+, and Mobile Suit Gundam get a B-.

Dogasu
12-15-2002, 02:29 AM
Inu-Yasha #1: Good episode. Takahashi was a genious, making the plot revolve around collecting jewel shards. Because now, she can write as many filler stories as she wants and defend them by saying "Well, they got a jewel fragment! It wasn't completely pointless!"

But am I the only one who isn't laughing out loud at Miroku? Kame Sen'nin's perverted antics entertain me far more than this monk...

Inu-Yasha #2: I liked this one better even if dub-Kagome can't pronounce Sesshomaru's name correctly. And I did notice the arm looking a little odd--did Naraku give him the wrong arm or what? And did Naraku remind anyone else of one of the tribesman from Princess Mononoke?

Cowboy Bebop and Yuu Yuu Hakusho: Skipped in favor of Saturday Night Live. Wow, with Al Gore appearing on the Daily Show and SNL all in one week, I guess we know the chances that HE'LL be running for president again, huh? -_^ The Willy Wonka skit was hilarious ("I had to ride that psycadelic boat to work everyday!") and the cartoon was really funny as well.

Gundam 0080: Since when is it OK to say "die" and "kill" so much on Toonami? I swear, this episode had more "kill"'s than all the episodes of the Toonami version of 08th MS Team combined. Good episode, even if I was expecting Bernie to randomly shout out "Gene! Grappler Mode now!"

Jeeze, WS had a field day on edits according to LFV.

The edit list up now is for last week's episode (#4). The one for this week's (#5) will come later.

If it weren't for him we'd be left in the dark about Garcia's death. I kept hearing Feddies say "Yah, two Zeke's got out" but they only showed Bernie. Other stupid edits were "Oh yah, people get lost" and "Gimme a soda". Kind of reminds me of Endless Waltz where Duo said "Yay, let's go back and celebrate with some wine!" and goody-goody Quatre has to say "Sure, as long as it's not alcoholic.". Oh well, this series is almost over.

Actually, that line's in the uncut version of Endless Waltz as well. And the uncut sub, IIRC (I do remember specifically looking for it).

Actually, now that I think about it, wasn't that line said in the final episode of GW, not the movie? Meh, it's late, I can't think right now...

MSG: "Ms Matilda! Ms. Matilda! Ms. Matilda! MS. MATILLLLLDAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!" I swear, could it have been any more obvious that she was going to die in this episode? "Gee, we're randomly focusing on a side character, just like we did with Ryu. Maybe they'll forget what they saw in the preview for this episode and be surprised by Matilda's death" Anyway, I've been noticing in the past few weeks that this show just goes on and on and on. There's no clear goal, no main motivation, just random struggle for survivial after random struggle for survival. The show is just one long and dragged-out...I don't even know what it is at this point. I've just been really bored with it lately, and I hope it picks up soon.

Oh yeah, and we also get the stereotypical rednectk Zeon pilot. Yeeeeehaaaaaw!!

Charred Knight
12-15-2002, 02:34 AM
My biggest complaint about the ink painter episode was that the ending was changed.

In the manga Kagome finds the painting of the princess that the painter loved and Miroku says that no one could paint such purity with such tainted ink. Than Miroku prays for the painter's soul and when Inu-yasha scoffs at Miroku's praying, Miroku says that IY didn't kill the painter that was mercy.

My biggest complaint with the second episode was that Shessomaru's slaughtering of the army should have been like it was in the manga.

The two page spread of Shessomaru decapitating the entire army with one swipe was awesome.

Masamune2052
12-15-2002, 02:40 AM
However, Viz must edit it for Adult Swim because CN isn't an 'all ages' network yet. And Dogasu, your right, last episode or something of Gundam Wing, not Endless Waltz.

Joe Tully
12-15-2002, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by Masamune2052
[B]One more thing, I don't get how Kagome can tell Miroku "Oh, I'll go find an antidote" when he get's poisoned by the Saimyousho. Where the hell are you going to find an antidote? Your in a battle!



That confused me too. The only thing I could figure is maybe she was going to try to find the town healer or something and was too flustered to say it the right way. And like I mentioned above, it's still weird that she comes back with her arrows from out of nowhere.

Charred Knight
12-15-2002, 02:53 AM
Actually it was toned down for a younger age in Japan.

Viz had nothing to do with it, as I said the manga put out by Viz is unedited.

Charred Knight
12-15-2002, 03:20 AM
Originally posted by Joe Tully
That confused me too. The only thing I could figure is maybe she was going to try to find the town healer or something and was too flustered to say it the right way. And like I mentioned above, it's still weird that she comes back with her arrows from out of nowhere.

Remember what was besides Kagome

Think about what thing Kagome has from the Present.

Here's my question how did Fay know that Ed was a girl at the end?

Do even the Japanese Women have Lolita complexes?

Mackenzie Rainelle
12-15-2002, 08:29 AM
Inuyasha: A-right, does anyone but me think the Hell Painter sounded like the mad scientist from the old Bugs Bunny cartoons? Other than that, not a bad episode. I'm liking Miroku more and more. And Sesshoumaru is back and in fine form. Obviously Fluffy's done his research on what Tetsusaiga's capable of, and gives Inuyasha a nice ass-kicking before Kagome butts in. And insults Inuyasha's sword swinging abilities while he's at it, yeah buddy! Oh, and one more thing: I too thought it would have been perfect for the swirly-eyed Inuyasha to mumble out a halfway-coherent "Orooo........." :D

Cowboy Bebop: Ah, one of my favorite comedy episodes. Although I much prefer the Japanese version, since I can't help but crack up at all of the english words sprinkled in it.

Yu Yu Hakusho: Byakko's dead now, right? He's finally gone? No more? WHOO! Hiei's swordsmanship skills are awesome. And Kuwabara's lines continue to be very entertaining. "I didn't even see the flashes."

Artemis
12-15-2002, 10:37 AM
Inuyasha: First ep was okay. Hell Painter's voice annoyed me and it kinda got boring after a while. Second episode made up for it though, with the return of one of my favorite anime villains, Sesshomaru. I didn't like their pronounciation of Naraku, but I can live with it. And his beast-guise reminded me a lot of Princess Mononoke.

Cowboy Bebop: Don't ever use this episode to introduce Cowboy Bebop to those who've never seen it before. One of my friends saw this and it took him FOREVER to give it a second chance. Some people just don't appreciate the Ed. :\ Loved Spike's quote at the end as evident in my sig.

Yu Yu Hakusho: I liked Seiryu and Hiei was badass. And this episode automatically gets an A+ for finally killing of Byakko. Man, was that guy annoying.

Gundam 0080: Gotta love The Most Edited Gundam Show On Earth(tm). Everything's being set up for the big finale next. Voice acting was pretty good (minus the guy who LFV described as "sounding like a drunk German).

KingKoopa
12-15-2002, 11:01 AM
[Exit Byakko]
[Enter the stupid bird]

I miss Byakko.

Sir Gatts
12-15-2002, 12:24 PM
Inuyasha:

First half:
This episode had a good amount of action within. The presence of an evil jewel shard seems to be of a small mystery. Maybe this could mean that the individual jewel shards have opposing powers leading to different end effects.

Second half:
The introduction of this Naraku character definitely leads me to believe that Naraku is in some way within close contact with team Inuyasha. Either through its own presence or through the aid of a spy. Being that Naraku is a shape shifter, Naraku may currently even be one of team Inuyasha in disguise.

I ponder as to why Naraku would go to the length of aiding Sessho-maru. There's no doubt that both would desire to possess the Shikon Jewel at the point of team Inuyasha's defeat. It's quite possible that Naraku will attempt to off Sessho-maru if Sessho-maru prevails in defeating Inuyasha, however since Inuyasha has never been able to bring out the full capabilities of the Tetsusaiga as demonstrated through Sessho-maru, it is surely possible that Naraku may be unaware of what thou may be up against.

eyager
12-15-2002, 12:39 PM
Inuyasha Curse of the Hell Painter: C Not much really peaked my interest during this episode other than Miroku and Inuyasha arguing over the jewel fragments.

Inuyasha Naraku and Sesshomaru Join Forces: B+ Good episode, but the rules for Tetsuiga's transformation are a bit inconisistant. If miroku or the black haired inuyasha wanted to use tetsuiga, couldn't they just use a jewel shard to hotwire it? The tetsuiga won't transform for humans nor for hybrid demons without will to protect humans. Somehow these rules went out the window.

gtracer72
12-15-2002, 12:46 PM
Inu Yasha Curse of the Hell Painter
This was ok. Nothing to praise though. The stroy was kinda boring, but the fight scenes were cool.
Grade: B+

Inu Yasha Naraku and Sesshomaru Join Forces
This was a great episode. Seing Sesshomaru using the sword was great. The entire episode was wonderful.
Grade: A+

JJc14
12-15-2002, 01:45 PM
[note: the run number following each show's title is my current run through the series, not to be confused with cn's run, etc.]

Inuyasha (first run)
[1]
...a standard episode that didn't break much new ground in the series...miroku has grown on me significantly though, making character interactions within the group even more enjoyable...the plot seemed forgettable though: B

[2]
...inuyasha's brother (easier than trying to spell it) returns to settle the score, this time with help from naraku...good to see everyone from the group get involved in the fight in one way or another, and this episode serves to not only bring about more questions, but to leave me hanging again on a razor-sharp cliffhanger: A-

Cowboy Bebop (fifth run)
ed took some time to grow on me...while i never disliked her character, there were times i felt that she was unneeded as a bebop crew member...however, this was a fun, light-hearted episode that holds its own with the rest of the series: B+

Yu Yu Hakusho (first run)
...i could just hear everyone on the board cheer when byakko finally met his end =)

seriyu's fight with hiei gave a nice contrast from kuwabara's drawn out battle earlier...hiei remains my favorite character in this series thus far, though kuwabara had some classic lines as well...looking forward to next week: B

Gundam 0080 (third run)
this was my favorite episode of the series when it premiered on the midnight run last year because it showed a lot of emotion, which i didn't really know a cartoon could do at the time...the aftermath of the battle can be felt even in the toned-down version, and you know something's going down soon: A-

i haven't gotten to mobile suit gundam yet...hope to watch that sometime this evening...

G1Ravage
12-15-2002, 01:47 PM
Duo: "Let's celebrate with some expensive champagne."

Quatre: "That's fine....as long as it's non-alcoholic."

And Bernie does order a soda in the original....sort of.

Mackenzie Rainelle
12-15-2002, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by Sir Gatts
First half:
This episode had a good amount of action within. The presence of an evil jewel shard seems to be of a small mystery. Maybe this could mean that the individual jewel shards have opposing powers leading to different end effects.


The jewel shards themselves aren't evil, but they become corrupted if there is darkness in the hearts of those who get them. Muuuuuch later in the series, the wandering Kikyou comes across a doctor named Suikotsu, who has one of the shards in his throat. It's pure though. However, when Suikotsu gets take over by his other personality (also called Suikotsu, but considerably uglier and much scarier) the shard becomes corrupted and turns black.


Second half:
The introduction of this Naraku character definitely leads me to believe that Naraku is in some way within close contact with team Inuyasha. Either through its own presence or through the aid of a spy. Being that Naraku is a shape shifter, Naraku may currently even be one of team Inuyasha in disguise.

Uh-uh. The Saimyoushou that Naraku sent after Miroku also act as his eyes and ears and give his minions their orders when he's not around to do it in person.

I ponder as to why Naraku would go to the length of aiding Sessho-maru. There's no doubt that both would desire to possess the Shikon Jewel at the point of team Inuyasha's defeat. It's quite possible that Naraku will attempt to off Sessho-maru if Sessho-maru prevails in defeating Inuyasha, however since Inuyasha has never been able to bring out the full capabilities of the Tetsusaiga as demonstrated through Sessho-maru, it is surely possible that Naraku may be unaware of what thou may be up against.

Naraku won't go after Inuyasha himself yet because he's still a "work in progress" so to speak. However, he has a very good trick up his sleeve in the fact that you never know if you're dealing with the real Naraku or one of his copy dolls until after you attack.

HaWick
12-15-2002, 02:27 PM
inuyasha- the first episode was a bit of boring. something about the episode that gets on my nerve. the voice actor doesn't give all they got. i'll give it 8.5/10

inuyasha 2- this episode is good, i like how Sessho and Naruko join forces. Now, that Sessho is getting more challenging, and how Miroku's power probably cold beat Sessho. It's good to see how Kagome uses her power for the first damn time, did i mention first?
overall, this episode ends with a cool battle...so i'll give it 9.9/10

CowBoy Bebop- This episode deserves a 9/10. This is the third time i watched it on AS, so i can't see i get bored of it, i still like it.

Yu Yu Hakasho- this episode is fast, they beat two monsters. well, a 8/10

Gundam- this episode is exciting, i like how they said their colony is going to be destroy and how the kid is getting stress out because of that. i mean, kids should'n't worry that much. but , it's coming to an end to this series, and so, i'll give it a 9/10.

Kesh
12-15-2002, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by KingKoopa
[Exit Byakko]
[Enter the stupid bird]

I miss Byakko.

This got a laugh out of me. Thanks. :)

Oh, and people... listen to Spike's quote again! It's "Kids, animals and women with attitude." No 'an'! :)

JetMaster5
12-15-2002, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Joe Tully
Naraku sure is keeping himself mysterious. He didn't even bother to help out Sesshomaru, which is a little odd.

He gave Sesshomaru the poisonous insects to plug Miroku's Wind Hole/Wind Tunnel up. He gave Sesshomaru a Shikon shard with a human arm to let him wield the Tetsusaiga. That's more than enough help Sesshomaru would've wanted.

Originally posted by Charred Knight
Here's my question how did Fay know that Ed was a girl at the end?

Her voice? When Faye was helping Ed take a shower? I dunno. Faye just knows 'cause she's a female.

Inuyasha: Man, this is a nice episode, with treachery and greed involved. I really wished that manager of the place would get eaten by the demons. That would've been so cool, considering what he had his guards tried to kill Miroku. Those guards should also be eaten by the demons. Hell, everyone except for Inuyasha's team should be eaten alive. Glad that happen, sorta, in the end.

Inuyasha: Heh, first there's the Wind Hole/Tunnel. Then there's the insects that plug up the Hole. And then there's Tetsusaiga's full power. The Cutting Wind. The ability to kill 100 demons in one slash, to which Sesshomaru demonstrated to Inuyasha (show off). And the only way to defeat Tetsusaiga is through Tetsusaiga's sheath. Nice. And then there's Kikyo's reincarnate, Kagome, who can render Tetsusaiga useless.

I hate cliffhangers....

Cowboy Bebop: Ed's introduced. The enigma of Cowboy Bebop. :D

0080: Bernie should've ran away. Now he's no choice but to...
...get killed.
Al's attitude is changing. I like episodes that's packed with tons of emotion. One of the reasons why I love 0080 so much.

0079: Matilda's death had a helluvalot more impact that Ryu's death ever had. We are now introduced to the Black Tri-Stars. We are also introduced to the person who is the spy for M'Cuve (is that how you spell it?). The Battle of Odessa sure looks interesting.

Yu Yu Hakusho: Hiei vs. Seiryuu. The blade demon vs. the ice dragon. Hiei sure is a lot more powerful than Kuwabara. Kuwabara took around 3 episodes to defeat Byakko, but Hiei took around 15 minutes just to kill Seiryuu. Ah well, at least Seiryuu killed Byakko. That's why I like this guy a lot. :D

Mackenzie Rainelle
12-15-2002, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by Dogasu
Inu-Yasha #2: I liked this one better even if dub-Kagome can't pronounce Sesshomaru's name correctly. And I did notice the arm looking a little odd--did Naraku give him the wrong arm or what? And did Naraku remind anyone else of one of the tribesman from Princess Mononoke?

I don't see where the arm looked weird. When Naraku was holding it out, it looked like a lefty....Do you mean when Sesshoumaru picked up the Tetsusaiga? All he did was turn his hand so he wouldn't have to change his grip on the sword once he'd gotten it out of the ground.....Where's the weirdness here?

Beat
12-15-2002, 04:16 PM
Here I go!

Inu Yasha, 1st ep- More "find the jewel" filler, that expands just a bit on a hidden power of Kagome's to find the jewels. Other than that, it was just so so. B-

Inu Yasha, 2nd ep- Now we're getting somewhere!! With Seshomerau weilding the Testaigua, and Kagome finally using her priestess powers to kick some ass, we're finally getting somewhere! Plus, we get to see Neraku, a definite plus. A-

MSG- There are three points I'm going to make.

1. I hate the way the Black Trinary (Tri-Stars) were dubbed. In the original, they have normal voices. Not too bad, but odd.

2. Matilda's death was done far better than Ryu's. Professional, and tragic.

3. The production values are slightly improving, which rounds out the package.

A-

ohmrbill
12-15-2002, 04:38 PM
1. I hate the way the Black Trinary (Tri-Stars) were dubbed. In the original, they have normal voices. Not too bad, but odd.

I think they had Osaka accents in the original, which is Japan's equivalent to a southern accent. Still no excuse for how fake and exaggerated these guys’ accents sounded, though.

Beat
12-15-2002, 04:45 PM
I heard the original, and didn't detect an accent. Maybe it's just me and my New Yorker drawl...

Still though, the American Tri Stars overdid it.

Spike Mcdougal
12-15-2002, 06:00 PM
I dont know where Sheamon is but i'm pretty sure he talk about how stupid the next episode is since it crams Odessa into one full episode, speaking of Odessa i'm touched because Odessa is my hometown in Texas though i've heard it's a different Odessa in another country.


As for Matilda's death MAHQ says that she made a stupid decision in attacking since her plane was no watch for the Dom. Of course the Medea was no match for the Dom!!!!!!!!! But i'm pretty sure she was aware the risk and you heard her yell "Ram us into the ground" The impact probably would have killed her anyway considering how close the Dom was to the cockpit

Gruntling
12-15-2002, 06:34 PM
Here's my short reviews...

Inu Yasha
Curse of the Hell-Painter: 8.7

Inu Yasha
Naraku and Sesshomaru Join Forces: 9.4

ClockStomper
12-15-2002, 11:07 PM
Byakko's dead now, right?

For a while anyway.....

Okay, he dosen't some back to my knowladge. But I wouldn't be surprised if an "Ultra" Byakko showed up in episode one hundred something

Inuyasha 1: Anyone notice the similarity in the voice of the hell painter and that of conspiracy theorist "Yuri Kellerman" on Bebop? Otherwise it was boring. C

Inuyasha 2: Now that's what I'm talking about! Everything a good Inuyasha episode needs-an exciting fight and some romantic comedy. A+

Bebop: An okay episode, worth watching for the various comedic bits. But the AI of the satilite is never mentioned again and nothing to exciting happens here. However, it does get massive extra credit for the exchange between Faye and Jet about her age which seems like throwaway lins but are really major foreshadowing. A-

Yu Yu: Good battle and the death of Byakko. Oh, and brownie points for showing us Kawaii Botan along with the Koenma/Jorge bit with the beets (one hundred spankings is always good for cheap laugh.) The begining of Keiko's in danger (which is okay but it drags on too long) and the intro of the annoying bird are bad. B

Sheamon
12-16-2002, 12:29 AM
I dont know where Sheamon is but i'm pretty sure he talk about how stupid the next episode is since it crams Odessa into one full episode, speaking of Odessa i'm touched because Odessa is my hometown in Texas though i've heard it's a different Odessa in another country.


Actually, its only half an episode for Odessa. The entire first half of the episode is spent on Amuro finding out that Elron's the spy.

Sorry for being late, I of course fell asleep again, although luckily this time it was after Inu Yasha so I didn't miss anything new. Simply put in my tapes of 0080 and MS Gundam and watched so I could review them here.

Gundam 0080
Episode 5: Say It Ain't So Bernie!
Here Al finally begins to realize what war is like and finds out the truth about Bernie. This episode is actually quite depressing with death and running away being a major theme, and is done quite well. Few Gundam episodes out there can compare to the last half of Gundam 0080.
Grade: A

Mobile Suit Gundam
Episode 23: Black Tri-Star
This episode's a vast improvement over the last 2 since something actually happens in it! White Base is fully repaired, Bright gets better, and the Black Tri-Stars, some of Zeon's most powerful aces appear. Amuro's becoming so good though that even though he had such a tough time with Ramba Ral he was able to kill one of them tonight and as the preview spoils anyway, the other two next week. Matilda's death also happens to be in this episode, a major step along with Ryu's demise (and other stuff that happens once White Base goes to Side 6) in Amuro's maturity and growth from the immature whiner into the best pilot in the Federation. Complaints about tonight's ep are obvious, the Tri-Star's ridiculous accents and the G-Armor/Fighter/whatever crap they throw at us.
Grade: C+

And yes, next week is the ultra dissappointing Battle of Odessa. All 10 minutes of it :D

Charred Knight
12-16-2002, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by Spike Mcdougal
I dont know where Sheamon is but i'm pretty sure he talk about how stupid the next episode is since it crams Odessa into one full episode, speaking of Odessa i'm touched because Odessa is my hometown in Texas though i've heard it's a different Odessa in another country.



The battle of Odessa isn't a place its the name of the operation.

Operation Odessa is the first major operation by the Federation since the War began.

In it the Federation attacked the Zeon in Europe leading to them recapturing the European continent. The operation was quick due to the fact that White Base had severly weakened the Zeon forces before hand and with the massive armies of the federation the Zeon were quickly defeated.

You have to remember that the zeons were victorious in the early part of their war due to the Aces that they had.

With Char Aznable in space due to his traitorous actions, and Rambal Ral dead, and the Black Tri-stars fighting Amuro the Zeon didn't have their best aces avaible to them.

You have to remember that all of the Operations in MSG were very short the Battle of Solomon was only two episodes long because of the Big Zam.

The only operation that was actually large enough to fit into two episodes on its own merit is the battle of Al Boa Quo which is the last battle of the war.

wonderfly
12-16-2002, 03:41 PM
What's with everyone complaining about the way the voice actors pronounce "SeSHOUmaru" and "NaRAku" or however the hell you say them. This is America, where they speak English. Since we're translating them into our syllables, I think the American voice talents can get away with pronouncing them however they want to. Just because it doesn't conform to you "Subtitled purists" way of wanting anime, doesn't mean these dubs are bad.

And here I thought it was the plot that mattered, but no, it appears that the way you pronounce a character's name is what will either make or break a show! :mad: :moon2:

Michael
12-16-2002, 03:59 PM
it was great! i liked how Inu-yasha bother got in on the Tetsiaga (sp?)

Will Sturnick
12-16-2002, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by wonderfly
What's with everyone complaining about the way the voice actors pronounce "SeSHOUmaru" and "NaRAku" or however the hell you say them. This is America, where they speak English. Since we're translating them into our syllables, I think the American voice talents can get away with pronouncing them however they want to. Just because it doesn't conform to you "Subtitled purists" way of wanting anime, doesn't mean these dubs are bad.

After the eps on Saturday (18 mainly), the misprounonciations don't bother me anymore. The VA's do their best to say the names. To "demand" that they all can say Japanese names exactly the way a Japanese person would is just too picky (and somewhat dorky)

Mackenzie Rainelle
12-16-2002, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by wonderfly
What's with everyone complaining about the way the voice actors pronounce "SeSHOUmaru" and "NaRAku" or however the hell you say them. This is America, where they speak English. Since we're translating them into our syllables, I think the American voice talents can get away with pronouncing them however they want to. Just because it doesn't conform to you "Subtitled purists" way of wanting anime, doesn't mean these dubs are bad.

And here I thought it was the plot that mattered, but no, it appears that the way you pronounce a character's name is what will either make or break a show! :mad: :moon2:

::whips out the Interdimensional Baka Mallet:: For one thing, no laying flame bait. For another, most of us aren't just complaining because of the change from Japanese. Say "Sesshoumaru" to yourself. The most natural way for it to fall off the tongue in the English language is "SE-sshou-MA-ru," right? So why are the dub VAs saying "Se-SSHOU-ma-ru" when it doesn't sound right in Japanese OR English pronounciation? We're not just complaining to be purists, as you're accusing so rudely, we're complaining because it sounds bad no matter HOW you look at it.

Arxane
12-16-2002, 05:31 PM
The name prouncing doesn't bother me that much. If you ask me, hearing an English voice say "NA-ra-ku" sounds odd in the context of the English language. The names sound the way they do in Japanese because their language isn't based upon the use of English emphases.

I've actually heard the names in "Inu-Yasha" pronounced more than one way in the Japanese version. I've heard "ka-GO-me" and "KA-go-me". I've heard "NA-ra-ku" and "na-RA-ku". I've heard "ses-SHO-ma-RU" and "SES-sho-MA-Ru". The Japanese language can pronounce these names either way, simply by changing the pitch and tone of voice.

I'm just glad Viz didn't change the names out right, because that would be a REAL reason for fans to be pissed.

JetMaster5
12-16-2002, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by Mackenzie Rainelle
::whips out the Interdimensional Baka Mallet:: For one thing, no laying flame bait. For another, most of us aren't just complaining because of the change from Japanese. Say "Sesshoumaru" to yourself. The most natural way for it to fall off the tongue in the English language is "SE-sshou-MA-ru," right? So why are the dub VAs saying "Se-SSHOU-ma-ru" when it doesn't sound right in Japanese OR English pronounciation? We're not just complaining to be purists, as you're accusing so rudely, we're complaining because it sounds bad no matter HOW you look at it.

Y'know, I'd also be complaining about the pronunciations of the names.

But after what 4Kids did to Yugioh (Saint Dragon of Osiris is now called Silfer? What the ****ing kind of name is that?!) and after all the different kinds of voice actors they made for this show (Jounouchi/Joey having a New York accent instead of a standard teenage accent. I mean, WTF?!) and after many redicilous edits and the combination of 2 episodes into one (Turning Bandit Keith's gun into a pointing hand and pointing his "hand" towards Pegasus, "demanding" for the money....), I came to appreciate the amount of dedication Viz have in making this series a quality product for fans.

In another words, for every negative aspect you see, there's always something worse out there.

ohmrbill
12-17-2002, 10:19 AM
The battle of Odessa isn't a place its the name of the operation.

Operation Odessa is the first major operation by the Federation since the War began.

Actually, Odessa is a place. It's called Operation Odessa because it takes place near Odessa, Ukraine.

wonderfly
12-17-2002, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by Mackenzie Rainelle
::whips out the Interdimensional Baka Mallet:: For one thing, no laying flame bait. For another, most of us aren't just complaining because of the change from Japanese. Say "Sesshoumaru" to yourself. The most natural way for it to fall off the tongue in the English language is "SE-sshou-MA-ru," right? So why are the dub VAs saying "Se-SSHOU-ma-ru" when it doesn't sound right in Japanese OR English pronounciation? We're not just complaining to be purists, as you're accusing so rudely, we're complaining because it sounds bad no matter HOW you look at it.


I really don't see what I said as flamebait. All's I'm saying is after reading all 4 pages of this thread, I noticed how often the pronounciation of names was brought up. And it kinda irked me. While I appeared angry, it was more of a "WTF is going on with the thread" type anger, and I'm not tore up all to pieces in real life. But I noticed this picking on the way the voice actors pronounced names; it happened 3 or 4 times as I recall.

Don't be mad that I called people anime purists who want this sort of thing: Most Anime purists I've seen wear this title with pride. They prefer Subtitled over dubbed, (as most anime fans tend to do), so I was calling people like this out to defend just why they think the pronounciation matters.

All's I'm saying is that to me the way stuff is pronounced doesn't really matter. I know some folks here who don't like the voice acting for Kagome, (they say she sounds like a Valley girl) or for some of the other characters. See, stuff like that doesn't bug me either. As long as we have the beautiful animation and the great Takahashi plots, that's the most important thing to me.

I will chime in one complaint that some others have raised, (and it's a complaint I agree with): the script sometimes has the characters saying stuff that no Ancient Japanese person would say: Like InuYasha saying "we all have our crosses to bear". I'm sorry, but Christianity wasn't that big an influence in Ancient Japan, certainly not to the point where that phrase would be picked up and tossed around.

So that's all I'm saying. :)

wonderfly
12-17-2002, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by neocrisis550
After the eps on Saturday (18 mainly), the misprounonciations don't bother me anymore. The VA's do their best to say the names. To "demand" that they all can say Japanese names exactly the way a Japanese person would is just to picky (and somewhat dorky)


You know, this is what I was trying to say, but much shorter, and to the point. And neocrisis550 is one of the people I saw in this thread bringing up the pronounciation problem! :p