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cbxweb
12-13-2002, 12:44 AM
I heard this rumor that Initial D, everyones's favorite anime is coming to TV. And sinces there's no other viable outlets, MAYBE it could come to ASA. I cant really tell because the DVD's aren't even out and Tokyopop has been silent for a while. I hope it doeas come to ASA it would suck if it was all Bullplop.
jeffrey 228
12-13-2002, 12:46 AM
The I think there collection seems to be getting a bit run down, since they have a few animes besides GTO, are unknown titles.
livingfruitvirus
12-13-2002, 12:48 AM
i think it works better for Toonami. i saw 3 episodes and i really couldn't get into it. maybe that's because im not a fan of cars. especially analog 3D cars like those.
Karl Olson
12-13-2002, 01:14 AM
Considering that TokyoPop pre-editted it (and not little edits, they changed the names of characters, they cut out some of the more offensive materical and they even changed the music because they felt eurobeat wouldn't sell. they even edited the manga), I'd say Toonami might be a safer bet than AS. I heard that Speedvision was interested at one point though.
DarkMaster
12-13-2002, 11:53 AM
Love Hina and Initial D. They've both been in the news don't know. A chance they could come i guess. :)
Nin-Nin69
12-13-2002, 04:13 PM
That would be cool if Initial D came to CN. I usually play the arcade game at work and read the manga during my free time. I'd say its worthy enough for Toonami rather than ASA. Now Love Hina on the other hand is ASA material. :)
ohmrbill
12-13-2002, 04:46 PM
ASA will be non-existent soon, remember? :p
livingfruitvirus
12-13-2002, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by Nin-Nin69
That would be cool if Initial D came to CN. I usually play the arcade game at work and read the manga during my free time. I'd say its worthy enough for Toonami rather than ASA. Now Love Hina on the other hand is ASA material. :)
minus the "action" part.
I think ASA is just what people will always call the action portion of Adult Swim, whether it be Saturday, Weekdays, or whatever.
Masamune2052
12-13-2002, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by Nin-Nin69
Now Love Hina on the other hand is ASA material. :)
HAHA, Love Hina on CN, funna. That series is about fan service and extreme male head trauma. :p
Arxane
12-13-2002, 06:09 PM
"Love Hina" on Adult Swim? Sorry, I seriously don't see that happening. I'm pretty sure Bandai wanted "Love Hina" on television at one point. Why else did they tone down show's script to make one of the worst dubs in recent memory? Bandai seems to be doing that quite a bit recently: making one uncut dub for television and putting that dub on the DVD, just like with "G Gundam". Of course, even with a toned down script, "Love Hina" needs to be seriously hacked to make it suitable for American television, especially considering the girls are minors. I mean, "Love Hina" is a LOT more risque than Miroku's ass-grabbing will ever be. And with "Love Hina"'s ecchi removed, what's left? Point made. Next!
In regards to "Initial D", this series belongs more on Toonami than Adult Swim. Removing any "inappropriate" content removed fom this show for Toonami will have the same effect as removing "inappropriate" material from "Gundam Wing" for Toonami. And since Tokyopop is pre-editing the English version of shis show quite a bit with shortening character names and changing the music (have you watched the new trailer on Tokyopop's website? The music is horrendous! "Changing the music is necessary" my ass!), I'm sure Tokyopop wants this series given as much exposure as possible. Speedvision certainly aint gonna give that kinda exposure, and this series is hardly Adult Swim material. So Toonami looks like the most likely place it'll head for, and with "Reign" slated to air on Adult Swim, I'm pretty damn sure Tokyopop is nagging Cartoon Network to air "Initial D" even as I write this.
I heard this rumor that Initial D, everyones's favorite anime is coming to TV.
Well, this show certainly ain't my favorite show. In fact, it topped my list of "worst anime I have ever seen" until "Pilot Candidate" came along. If you like this show's horribly demented character designs and stick-out-like-a-sore-thumb CGI, then more power to you. With me, it sure looks like a great marketable cure for insonmia.
And that's my rant for today. Please don't quote me or I will be forced to glare at you. Thank you, good night, and go kiss your grandmothers.
Andrew
12-13-2002, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by arxane
I'm pretty sure Bandai wanted "Love Hina" on television at one point. Why else did they tone down show's script to make one of the worst dubs in recent memory?
Bandai had nothing to do with the dub of Love Hina. Production I.G is solely responsible for that complete tragedy.
In regards to the topic at hand, one has to wonder, given TOKYOPOP's extreme desire to get ID on TV, whether or not Reign was offered in some kind of "package" deal with it. I.e., in order for WS to get broadcast rights for Reign, they had to also agree to buy and show Initial D. I certainly wouldn't put it past TP.
Don't know about the content or its block-appropriateness myself (having not seen any episodes), but I do wonder just how much popularity it could gain (on Toonami OR Adult Swim). It sure seems to have a lot going against it.
The Xenos
12-23-2002, 09:36 PM
What's this about edits to the Initial D dvds? Was this jsut in teh dubbing or in teh subtitles as well. Now I'm not a sub-nazi purist like some people I know, but I don't like it when major edits like that are done on dvd releases. The thing that really gets me is they would change the music. All my freinds and I love the Initial D music. Sure, it's a style not that popular in the states. Is there anything wrong with that. Highly disapointing.
I've seen some eps of Initial D and it might work even on Toonami with some editing. Though I don't know if it's action packed enough for the afternoons. I find it very cool another network like Speedvision would be interested. I like CN and AS, but I want to see anime branch out and not have CN be the only outpost for it, especially anime for the odler crowd.
-Xenos
EscaflownePilot
12-23-2002, 10:28 PM
What's this about edits to the Initial D dvds? Was this jsut in teh dubbing or in teh subtitles as well. Now I'm not a sub-nazi purist like some people I know, but I don't like it when major edits like that are done on dvd releases. The thing that really gets me is they would change the music. All my freinds and I love the Initial D music. Sure, it's a style not that popular in the states. Is there anything wrong with that. Highly disapointing.
Tokyopop has said that while the English version will be editted not just for content but to remove most of the Japanese culture, as well, they will release the uncut, subtitled version on DVD. While I can understand editting a product for content, taking out cultural references is a big deal to me, however, so long as they release the uncut subtitled version I'll be happy.
I'm almost positive, based on Tokyopop's press releases, that Initial D won't air on Adult Swim, and I really don't expect to see it on Toonami, either. In their press release, Tokyopop stated that they spoke to a "higher-up" from a television network who basically thought the idea of keeping in culutural references or the original music was stupid, and thus Tokyopop was more or less "forced" to make these edits (can't say how much I buy this story that much, though). No one from Toonami would ever ask for these types of edits - not the network that left all the kanji in Tenchi Muyo, kept Gundam Wing's original music, etc.
I really don't expect to see it on a network like Speedvision, either. Tokyopop also made a point in their press release of saying that they were going for a huge, mainstream audience. Really, how many people get Speedvision? And how many more actually watch it? And of those who watch it, what age are they? I'd guess older than any group that would need as much content editting as it sounds like Initial D's getting.
Which leaves the bottom of the barrel; the mainstream-iest of the mainstream: Fox Box or Kids' WB!.
I guess something like Nickelodean is also a possibility, but I'd still have to say Fox Box or Kids' WB!, if it's not just syndicated or something.
KingKoopa
12-23-2002, 10:35 PM
Tokyopop's giving it the Kids WB treatment, so I expect it either there or on Nick.
tlsmith1963
12-24-2002, 12:39 PM
I don't like people making changes in anime DVDs. Who cares if there are Japanese cultural references? I'm fascinated with other cultures. I want the Japanese stuff to stay in!
On another note, who would like to see X on Adult Swim? I'm currently watching it, & I think it is really well done. I haven't seen Initial D, so I have no opinion about it.
Tammy
Poser Wannabe
12-24-2002, 02:10 PM
The only change I'm really unhappy about with Initial D is the music. It should be against the law for companies to change TV series/movies from what the director/writer envisioned. :p
I wonder how bad they remove America cultural references in Japan? Listening to the commentary on Back to the Future III he mentioned that they had to change the reference to 7-11 for the Japanese market because they wouldn't get it. I can see the reason for those kinds of changes, but some things really don't need to be “dumbed” down imho. :-/
Nin-Nin69
12-24-2002, 06:50 PM
I would rather have GTO come to CN first before Initial D ever does. That would be a perfict adult cartoon for the AS line up. All they have to do is cut out a few curse words and some of the scenes where Onizuka is nude or drunk and the show will work fine. :D
Master Moron
12-26-2002, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by Poser Wannabe
The only change I'm really unhappy about with Initial D is the music. It should be against the law for companies to change TV series/movies from what the director/writer envisioned. :p
Against the law...hmmmmm....well, a director can stipulate stuff like that in the contract. Like, I recall Hayao Miyazaki wouldn't allow Disney to edit his works, or at least he'd only allow them to marginally edit his works, or something like that. But, it doesn't seem like most other directors of anime do this type of thing too often. I don't think most have a say in how there works in other countries are handled.
Originally posted by Poser Wannabe
I wonder how bad they remove America cultural references in Japan? Listening to the commentary on Back to the Future III he mentioned that they had to change the reference to 7-11 for the Japanese market because they wouldn't get it. I can see the reason for those kinds of changes, but some things really don't need to be “dumbed” down imho. :-/
Not sure. But, I honestly don't think the Japanese would get half the jokes on the Simpsons if they didn't cut out the cultural references.
Poser Wannabe
12-27-2002, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by Master Moron
Against the law...hmmmmm....well, a director can stipulate stuff like that in the contract. Like, I recall Hayao Miyazaki wouldn't allow Disney to edit his works, or at least he'd only allow them to marginally edit his works, or something like that. But, it doesn't seem like most other directors of anime do this type of thing too often. I don't think most have a say in how there works in other countries are handled.I fully agree, I think most anime directors don't speak up is because either a) they don't care or b) don't know it's happening.
In Utah they have a store that edits rated R movies into PG and PG-13 movies for families, and most of the directors/writers in Hollywood are pissed about it. I have no idea how that ended (if it has).
Not sure. But, I honestly don't think the Japanese would get half the jokes on the Simpsons if they didn't cut out the cultural references. Very true, I agree some references should be changed, but I can't see the reason for changing music, or removing an intro because the song is in a different language, and so on.
Everyone that watches anime should understand it comes from Japan, so they shouldn't be surprised at some of the references. Like I imagine anyone in Japan that is watching The Simpsons understands some of the jokes, and references are to American TV stations, or shows, etc. Speaking of that I wonder what they do with all the references to FOX in The Simspons. hmm...
Mugen
12-27-2002, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by Poser Wannabe
Everyone that watches anime should understand it comes from Japan, so they shouldn't be surprised at some of the references. Like I imagine anyone in Japan that is watching The Simpsons understands some of the jokes, and references are to American TV stations, or shows, etc. Speaking of that I wonder what they do with all the references to FOX in The Simspons. hmm...
Do they even show the Simpsons in Japan?
Poser Wannabe
12-27-2002, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by SSJ Gohan 64
Do they even show the Simpsons in Japan? I can't see any reason why they wouldn't. It's one of the most popular TV shows of all time in America.
http://www.foxjapan.com/tv/bangumi/the_simpsons/
And I guess that answers my question, they have a FOX in Japan too?
Joker1
12-27-2002, 02:11 PM
Why are some of the colors on the characters changed in that picture? Mr. Burns looks even creepier with his hair that color. :harley:
Initial D is not Adult Swim material, especially since Tokyopop hacked it to death. Love Hina would be cool to see though, unless it was brutally edited.
Master Moron
12-27-2002, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by Poser Wannabe
In Utah they have a store that edits rated R movies into PG and PG-13 movies for families, and most of the directors/writers in Hollywood are pissed about it. I have no idea how that ended (if it has).
There's a number of sites that sell edited movies. Here's one of them:
http://www.familysafemedia.com/edited_videos.html
They're actually selling an edited version of Schindler's List. That's great! Now we can teach our kids that no one died in the holocaust!
As for the Simpsons, I've heard the the Japanese dub is pretty bad. Like, supposedly Marge is given a sexy voice for some reason...
Mugen
12-27-2002, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by Master Moron
There's a number of sites that sell edited movies. Here's one of them:
http://www.familysafemedia.com/edited_videos.html
They're actually selling an edited version of Schindler's List. That's great! Now we can teach our kids that no one died in the holocaust!
As for the Simpsons, I've heard the the Japanese dub is pretty bad. Like, supposedly Marge is given a sexy voice for some reason...
You can't edit Schindler's List. That's like editing the Bible for content. :rolleyes: WHAT! SAVING PRIVATE RYAN IS ON THERE!!! :mad:
livingfruitvirus
12-27-2002, 03:45 PM
For once, it'd be more worthwhile to watch something on TV than to buy it.
KingKoopa
12-27-2002, 04:03 PM
Jeez. They edited Iron Giant, which airs UNCUT on a CHILDREN'S NETWORK.
Poser Wannabe
12-27-2002, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by Master Moron
There's a number of sites that sell edited movies. Here's one of them:
http://www.familysafemedia.com/edited_videos.html
They're actually selling an edited version of Schindler's List. That's great! Now we can teach our kids that no one died in the holocaust!
lol, I only looked through a copy of the titles, but why would you need to edit either of these movies?:
Anna and the King
Antz
Thanks for the link, thats pretty funny. :)
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