You Can't Do That On Television!!!

[JohnCrichton]

List off here all the things you can't believe Adult Swim gets away with!

I appriciated it and comend the jokes they get away with on this block, but damn! I never thought something like this would happen and of all places Cartoon Network!

Number One on my list of things I can't believe they got away with on television was from SeaLab 2021.

The Bizarro!!! episode after Biz-Debbie took Dr. Quinn to be "questioned."

For one I'm can't believe the got away with just that joke, but after the questioning was done to have Biz-Murphy say, "Did you try @#$%-ing him in the %$#???"

I could not believe I heard that joke outside of Comedy Central.

Then last Aqua Teen Hunger Force(which I'm quickly beginning to love) when Shake said, "Teeth are for gay people. Why do you think fairies come pick them up?"

You'd think there'd be more explosive media about all the jokes they're getting away with.

Then again, those people who would complain about this kinda humour prolly don't watch Cartoon Network, cuz as we all know cartoons are for kids. :p

What's your list of eye popping, "I can't believe that just happened on Cartoon Network.." thing you've seen on Adult Swim?

[Masamune2052]

Kikyo's nudity in 'Kikyo's Stolen Ashes'.

I seriously didn't think they could put that in.

Most people thought they wouldn't put in Miroku's groping scene with Kagome, but they did and I though they would. And then there's Yusuke's middle finger and 'Cowboy Funk'.

[Mynd Hed]

After the way that Toonami castrated The Big O by censoring all of the religious references, I was surprised and pleased when they aired Cowboy Bebop's "Brain Scratch" with no edits for religious content. Considering that most of the people who complain about television content in this country are fundamentalist Christians, that was a pretty daring move, and I appreciate the fact that Cartoon Network had the cajones to do it.

[IWDP Lim]

Jet - I didn't know you were into the blues!

Fatty - You kiddin'? I was listing (wailing?) to the blues when I was still in my father's sack!

Maybe not a prefect quote of the lines, but pretty close. First time I heard that I nearly spit out whatever it was I was drinking that night.

[Arxane]

Episode three of "Inu-Yasha": Not a single spot of digital paint on Kagome. They even showed her bathing at the end, which was possibly the closest Cartoon Network has ever reached with showing cleavage.

First episode of "Sealab 2021": Dr. Quinn gives Debbie his thesis on why he'd make a good father and then attempts to prove it by...caressing her. Afterwards she said, "Thank God I'm wearing a wetsuit."

Episode fourteen of "Inu-Yasha": They didn't edit any, and I mean any, of Kikyo's nudity scenes. We saw everything, even a near-showing of her crotch. Possibly the closest Cartoon Network has ever come to showing below-the-waist nudity.

The pirated-radio episode of "Sealab 2021": At the end, the captain and his skip were talking about ****ing an orangatan and how that was legal in Tiajuana. 'nuff said.

The second appearance of the Moonites on "ATHF": "We are going to steal your pornography and sodomize our minds." Cartoon Network said "sodomize." Since when is a children's network supposed to allow the word "sodmonize"?!

The final episode of "Pilot Candidate": The catgirl says, "Hey...let's sing together." I dunno why, but that line was just so wrong...

[Sir Gatts]

What's your list of eye popping, "I can't believe that just happened on Cartoon Network.." thing you've seen on Adult Swim?
My list:

Opening title cuts. -Completely due to time restrictions yet understandable.
Possible drop of MSG.



Short, isn't it. And why should adult content be surprising? Ever read the Adult Swim viewer advisory warning before? ;)

[Conekiller]

that time Murphy said "i don't know" and slime fell form the sky......Oop never mind

[EightOh]

That was a good show...

I'll have to agree with Gatts. Most things aren't so much surprising(though the "since I was in my father's sack" was spittake-worthy) as they are uplifting, in that I'm glad to see stuff like that on Cartoon Network.

[Harvey Birdman]

Originally posted by Conekiller
that time Murphy said "i don't know" and slime fell form the sky......Oop never mind

lmao great :D

[EightOh]

Originally posted by Conekiller
that time Murphy said "i don't know" and slime fell form the sky......Oop never mind It's already been commented on, but that was hilarious.

[Beat]

Nothing really. SNL and Comedy Central still push the boundaries further.

[Shnay]

Originally posted by Beatdigga
Nothing really. SNL and Comedy Central still push the boundaries further.

Yes, but NBC and Comedy Central aren't children's networks. Hence the purpose of this thread.

The only thing that really "surprised" me was the nudity on Inu Yasha. I knew the ASC shows could do a lot with language and innuendos (they established that in the beginning) and religious issues had also been addressed with CB, so I guess that was the "final frontier" for AS to cross into. I was a little surprised to see it happen. Not becuase I thought that they wouldn't ever do it, but I was just surprised when I actually saw it.

[SirLemming]

Originally posted by Beatdigga
Nothing really. SNL and Comedy Central still push the boundaries further.

Does SNL allow the middle finger? That's not a rhetorical question; I'm literally asking.

But I think the first Adult Swim thing that really pushed TV standards was when they first allowed the use of "God" and "damn" in conjunction in Cowboy Bebop's "Bohemian Rhapsody." They cut it out in the other episodes and on TV in general. Some people don't realize it, but the phrase is considered somewhere between the middle finger and the S-word on the scale of objectionable-ness. The fact that it was edited out of other episodes makes it extremely strange.



And of course, the fact that a children's network is not only pushing, but BREAKING certain TV standards is truly amazing.

[AJW73]

I was surprised and shocked at the end of the Bebop cola Episode on Sealab where they show a guy massaging his nipples and wagging his toungue.I was like,"what does that have to do selling soda?" :eek:

[Gruntling]

I was really shocked to see Kiyko nude, in "Kiyko's Stolen Ashes." I've rarely seen nude anime on a broadcast cable network, but to see it on Cartoon Network? I guess they can't make up their minds over which is too much and which isn't... :rolleyes:

[Dogasu]

But I think the first Adult Swim thing that really pushed TV standards was when they first allowed the use of "God" and "damn" in conjunction in Cowboy Bebop's "Bohemian Rhapsody." They cut it out in the other episodes and on TV in general. Some people don't realize it, but the phrase is considered somewhere between the middle finger and the S-word on the scale of objectionable-ness. The fact that it was edited out of other episodes makes it extremely strange.

I don't think they said GD...I'm pretty sure you're just mis-remembering. You can't say GD unless you're a TV-MA show (they use it frequently in South Park). TV-MA also lets you say a-hole, pussycat (minus the cat), and allows you to have more blood than TV-14. Cowboy Bebop would have a lot less edits if it were TV-MA...

[livingfruitvirus]

Originally posted by SirLemming
Does SNL allow the middle finger? That's not a rhetorical question; I'm literally asking.


They digitally blur it out. Pretty much any broadcast network does. But I could be wrong. (correct me if I'm wrong)

I think they should put that Yusuke scene in an AS advertisement and THEN blot it out. With an Adult Swim logo or something. Or the skull!

[Nik Jam]

Cowboy Bebop slipped a God Damn in Bohemian Rhapsody indeed, which just shows that Cowboy Bebop's edited version slipped up too! Just like Toonami Tenchi and Outlaw Star.

Of course I don't have much more to say other than the nudity and middle fingers..

[cronomorph]

yeah, every broadcast middle finger is digiblurred. Even on cable channels in movies they blur the middle finger.

[jrh31584]

About a week ago, I was channel surfing around midnight when I happened to come across "Blazing Saddles" (hilarious, watch it if you haven't yet, or if you have) on TCM. Having seen it before, I assumed certain words would be bleeped out, such as s*** and some racial slurs. They weren't. I don't recall about the middle finger or f***. I suppose standards are looser late at night, but would I be wrong to assume that when CN becomes an all-ages network, the censorship will be similarly lax late at night?

[sl4]

Originally posted by jrh31584
About a week ago, I was channel surfing around midnight when I happened to come across "Blazing Saddles" (hilarious, watch it if you haven't yet, or if you have) on TCM. Having seen it before, I assumed certain words would be bleeped out, such as s*** and some racial slurs. They weren't. I don't recall about the middle finger or f***. I suppose standards are looser late at night, but would I be wrong to assume that when CN becomes an all-ages network, the censorship will be similarly lax late at night?

Isn't TCM a premium channel? All-ages or not, Cartoon Network is still basic cable. And they've become pretty lax as it is.

[Calhoun07]

Originally posted by cronomorph
yeah, every broadcast middle finger is digiblurred. Even on cable channels in movies they blur the middle finger.

For some reason, it's not blurred on the Man Show, on Comedy Central. When Jimmy Kimmel has those segments where he's teaching his son lessons about the real world (I forget what they call those segments) they show Jimmy and his son driving by proudly holding up their middle finger, and there is no blurring at all.

[Mynd Hed]

I don't know how TCM is offered on most cable systems, but where I live it's a basic cable channel just like Cartoon Network, not a premium channel.

As for whether we can expect CN's standards to be as lenient (I don't like the word "lax," it implies leniency to a fault) as TCM's in the future, well, we can only hope. The thing is that TCM is supposedly showing "classic" movies, in other words, "art." Whereas in some people's perception, what Cartoon Network shows is just cheap entertainment. Personally, I think Cowboy Bebop deserves the label "art" more than Blazing Saddles does (not that Blazing Saddles isn't a great funny movie, mind you-- Mel Brooks rules!), and in any case the distinction between "art" and "entertainment" is a very vague and subjective one, but that might not stop some people from hypocritically feeling that TCM "deserves" to have more lenient standards than "those darn Satanic Japanese cartoons."

But like I said, we can hope.

(-:

[Kataclysm5]

I sware to god that they slipped "handjob" into an episode of sealab. In general I'm amazed what sealab gets away with.

[candy17]

Originally posted by superloud4
Isn't TCM a premium channel? All-ages or not, Cartoon Network is still basic cable. And they've become pretty lax as it is.

On my cable service, TCM is a basic cable channel and so is Cartoon Network. And I wouldn't say that CN is getting lax in their standards and procedures--more like relaxed, because I remember a time where some of the classic cartoons on CN were edited for racial stereotyping and some never aired for the same reason. Now cartoons like "Spinach fer Britain" air on CN and "Dog Collared" has its scene where Porky disguises himself as an Indian and a Chinaman reinstated. And IMO, I think the BS&P became more relaxed with the coming of Adult Swim.

Viva Adult Swim! :D :p

[hdofu]

On one episode of Bebop, you can here Faye in the shower saying the F word very clearly

[Masamune2052]

And exactly which episode is that?

[SirLemming]

...right...

Certain stations like TCM and AMC get all "artistic" and show stuff unedited. There are a few networks that have priveleges like that, but most don't. PBS is like that -- I know that's different because they don't have "commercials" in the traditional sense, but it's probably something kind of similar. All editing is done to please sponsors, really, so I figure certain channels have some kind of deal. Even TNN shows "Godfather Uncut" once in a blue moon.

[Evil Dr. Reef]

On one episode of Bebop, you can here Faye in the shower saying the F word very clearly
And exactly which episode is that?
The same episode that Spike & Julia run off together, and have a bajillion kids.

[John Miles]

Originally posted by Evil Dr. Reef
The same episode that Spike & Julia run off together, and have a bajillion kids.

That was a great episode.

[Cyporiean]

Originally posted by John Miles
That was a great episode.

The Ed and Ein scene was alittle strange though.. but ya gotta love the part were Vicous reveals he is really Spike's Father

[Karl Olson]

the first time the word ******bag was used, it caught me off guard a little. bebop wasn't so much you can't do that on television for me as "hell's frozen over, atleast for a number of vocal fanboy's who said it'd never be on tv."

[eyager]

Originally posted by cronomorph
yeah, every broadcast middle finger is digiblurred. Even on cable channels in movies they blur the middle finger.

My local PBS affilate doesn't edit out the finger in Red Dwarf. Granted the show was aired during late night and the finger was the british version.

[MrBananagrabber]

I saw ER a few weeks ago, and one of the main characters flipped off her mother, I think it was, and it wasn't blurred. They've also said "the s word" without it being bleeped. I was surprised, even with all of the graphic things on that show.

[mpbrulz]

And "Rejected" was, uh, rejected for sweet Jesus. Go figure.

But we've had the South Park "s---" episode, a lot of drug references on Cartoon Network and Comedy Central shows (i.e. Murphy and his "stash," which is a pretty tame one)....

Maybe there's a high turnaround when it comes to censors, which would account for such varying "standards." I'm sure they push things as far as they feel won't alienate a large group of their viewers.

On 9/11, CNN kept playing a video of the plane hitting one of the towers and the person who recorded it says (uncensored) "holy s----," to which the anchor said that pretty much summed it up. And that was easily accessible by people of all ages.

-mpb

And realizing (and then changing my post) that this board censors certain words, maybe that needs re-evaluating :)

[SirLemming]

If I remember correctly, there was some sort of huge controversy over the use of that word on ER (I thought it might be another hospital show, but I'll trust you on that). I remember reading about it in the newspaper -- some affiliates actually still bleeped it.
They've also shown "Saving Private Ryan" completely unedited on Network TV, once (and probably never again). And the 9/11 documentary on CBS was also pretty much a free-for-all. But of course, that documentary wasn't about sponsors...

There are always a few exceptions, but it's surprising that Cartoon Network has been allowed to make them. Hopefully, if the rumors are true, it will finally be treated like a real network soon enough...

[Mugen]

Originally posted by hdofu
On one episode of Bebop, you can here Faye in the shower saying the F word very clearly

I remember that episode well. I think Ed did something and it caused the water to become cold in the shower and she said it.

[The Landstander]

i think that in the past couple of years, television has become a lot more non-caring (i couldnt think of a good word) about the use of offensive words and references. occasionally movies will be shown unedited (as mentioned), a swear word finds it's way onto a network tv show, and drug references can be found on many shows. i think people just don't care as much anymore, especially when it comes to movies (Godfather) and real life events (9/11).

/rant :moon2:

[hdofu]

Just for that I am going to find that episode, it is out there damnit, :birdman:

(next there going to tell me there is no Santa Clause)

[ClockStomper]

'24' got away with the F-word on a recent broadcast, but it was edited out on the F/X repeats.

Speaking of F/X, The Shield gets away with middle fingers and every word but the "f" bomb."You gotta be ****in' me!" is in almost every episode. It's like their catchphrase.

[Mugen]

I think the episode where Faye said the F word was Black Dog Serenade.

[Masamune2052]

I highly doubt that WS would let Faye saying **** get by.

[sl4]

I think what they mean is that it was an edit slip.

[Cyporiean]

Originally posted by Masamune2052
I highly doubt that WS would let Faye saying **** get by.

and I highly doubt that Animaze would add it to a dub..



wait.. did Wendee Direct this episode? if so, I could understand...

-_-

[sandwichman]

I highly doubt that WS would let Faye saying **** get by. She didn't say all of it. She said "What the (first half of the EVIL word-hey)"! Almost, but not quite. :p

[SirLemming]

Yeah, I finally know what everyone's talking about. Sounds more like a "What the-- aaah!" to me. It's definitely nothing definite. You can't even hear any consonant sounds.

By the way, I do believe it's "Future events such as these... will affect you in the future." :p

[sl4]

Originally posted by SirLemming
By the way, I do believe it's "Future events such as these... will affect you in the future." :p

I'll check my tape tomorrow for the exact quote. If I remember.

[Kataclysm5]

Hey now, I've seen every episode of 24 this season, their was no f word.

[Outside Angel]

I know for sure they showed Saving Private Ryan completely unedited on basic cable (I watched it for the billionth time, and yes, it was unedited...I checked, just to see if they'd do it) which means a helluva lotta unedited violence, though that really doesn't seem to be much of a problem on TV anymore. My biggest gripe with censors is that they leave in soooooo much violence, and nobody really cares, and yet the moment they want to show something sexually explicit (like the human body, for example) people jump all over it. I find human sexuality alot more artistic than violence...I blame it on the Christian fundies...damn them for making sex dirty. But now I'm ranting. And Faye's f*** was sorta cut off at the end like sandwichman said.

[Jeff Harris]

Originally posted by Outside Angel
I know for sure they showed Saving Private Ryan completely unedited on basic cable (I watched it for the billionth time, and yes, it was unedited...I checked, just to see if they'd do it) which means a helluva lotta unedited violence, though that really doesn't seem to be much of a problem on TV anymore. Basic cable nothing, it was on ABC . . . unedited, uncut, and full of commercials. It aired twice (the Veteran's Day weekend last year and this year).

While keeping on subject though, sorta, I know it didn't happen on Adult Swim, but it did occur on a Adult Swim show on Toonami, Outlaw Star. Basically, it was the closing moments of a particular episode, in which Gene was doing some minor repairs, and then all of a sudden, he buckled (not quite collapsing, but getting there). Jim touched him on the back and looked at his hand. In the original, there was blood on Jim's hand. In the Toonami edit, the blood was gone, but Jim's reaction was intact.

"What? What the hell is this?"

Gene's response was perhaps the most honest response the editing crew could give.

"Yeah, I tried to patch it up, guess I didn't do a good job."

Future airings of the episode had been edited to remove the mild profanity. Still, this incident is nowhere near the outrageousness that have been mentioned in this thread, but I felt it should have been discussed.

[Cinos]

I remember the simpsons ep. 'Who shot Mr. Burns part 1'
HOMER: Kids, step outside for a moment. FU-
(Churchbells ring)
NED: That was the loudest profanity I've ever heard!

[Beat]

That's how the CN will treat it untill the end of time.

[Conan-san]

When :moon2: <-- This's guys buddy gave the middle finger in Aqua teen hunger force...

[Masamune2052]

:moon: "I am that which is Ignignot."

[Sacos]

There isn't really a set book of rules about what can and can't be said or shown. It is decided on a network by network basis. For example the South Park ep "It hits the fan" and the event movies that are sometimes shown on the big networks. Like a few years back when one network showed Schindlers List uncut. Its just a choice there are no real rules.

[Beat]

For now....

[Sacos]

I forgot to put my you can't do that on tv moment. It was the return of the mooninites ep where Ignignot :moon: proclaims that they will "Sodomize our vast imaginations" I almost fell off my couch when he said that!

[EightOh]

Originally posted by eyager
My local PBS affilate doesn't edit out the finger in Red Dwarf. Granted the show was aired during late night and the finger was the british version. I don't think the "two finger salute" counts, since most Americans don't have a clue what it means. Hell, it's been in the intro to Buffy for three seasons, now. :)

[Outside Angel]

True, true...for those of us who caught it, Spike giving everyone the bird British-style is slightly humorous...and yeah, my bad, was ABC

[The Xenos]

A freind of mine claims in one ep of Bebop Faye was in bed with two men and in the Adult Swim edit one guy as cut out. I asked him when it was. He replied somehting like, "You don't remember? Is it like Faye trades group sex for information often?" So, anyone know where this was?

btw, 'The Infernal Machine' is the name he gives to whatever program used for edits like adding bikinis or erasing blood.

-Xenos

[SirLemming]

You obviously heard very wrong. In "Waltz for Venus," Faye bursts in on two men who are having sex in bed. The man underneath is completely erased, although you can still hear him saying something.

[SpaceCowboy]

Originally posted by SirLemming
Does SNL allow the middle finger? That's not a rhetorical question; I'm literally asking.

But I think the first Adult Swim thing that really pushed TV standards was when they first allowed the use of "God" and "damn" in conjunction in Cowboy Bebop's "Bohemian Rhapsody." They cut it out in the other episodes and on TV in general. Some people don't realize it, but the phrase is considered somewhere between the middle finger and the S-word on the scale of objectionable-ness. The fact that it was edited out of other episodes makes it extremely strange.



And of course, the fact that a children's network is not only pushing, but BREAKING certain TV standards is truly amazing.

I've seen Eddy Murphy flip the bird on a recent airing of the "Mr. Robinson's" skit on SNL.

In "Bohemian Rhapsody", he doesn't actually say goddam, if you listen closely he says "Ah dammit!". I had to rewind the tape a few times to check it.

[SpaceCowboy]

Originally posted by Dogasu
I don't think they said GD...I'm pretty sure you're just mis-remembering. You can't say GD unless you're a TV-MA show (they use it frequently in South Park). TV-MA also lets you say a-hole, pussycat (minus the cat), and allows you to have more blood than TV-14. Cowboy Bebop would have a lot less edits if it were TV-MA...

It's occasionally said on Bravo and AMC (and they practically edit their movies to death). I even heard the word said in the Offspring video "Original Prankster" and this was on daytime MTV! Some networks don't like the word, others allow it.

[SpaceCowboy]

Originally posted by Mynd Hed
I don't know how TCM is offered on most cable systems, but where I live it's a basic cable channel just like Cartoon Network, not a premium channel.

As for whether we can expect CN's standards to be as lenient (I don't like the word "lax," it implies leniency to a fault) as TCM's in the future, well, we can only hope. The thing is that TCM is supposedly showing "classic" movies, in other words, "art." Whereas in some people's perception, what Cartoon Network shows is just cheap entertainment. Personally, I think Cowboy Bebop deserves the label "art" more than Blazing Saddles does (not that Blazing Saddles isn't a great funny movie, mind you-- Mel Brooks rules!), and in any case the distinction between "art" and "entertainment" is a very vague and subjective one, but that might not stop some people from hypocritically feeling that TCM "deserves" to have more lenient standards than "those darn Satanic Japanese cartoons."

But like I said, we can hope.

(-:

TCM's also a basic channel where I live. They've aired "Back To The Future" and "The Exorcist" uncut with all of the swearing, very late at night. A few weeks ago, "American Graffiti" aired at around 6pm with a TV-MA. It had the S word and middle fingers everywhere.
A few years back, when TCM aired "The Seven Samurai", certain words were blurred out of the subtitles, and this was at about 2am! Really strange. Maybe CN is trying to treat its Adult Swim animes in a similar way (without getting in trouble with the BS&P).