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DisneyBoy
12-06-2002, 06:33 PM
Ok.

I've tried.


I put an honest effort into being uplifting this Christmas, but it just wouldn't be December without lamenting my loveless life.

I'm alone. I deal with it. Having a gal isn't the end of the world, but around the holidays, no one can help but be reminded of those they've cared about. Problem is, I don't think anyone I've ever been interested in has liked me back.


Pretty petty thing to moan about when the world sits on the brink of nuclear war, I know, but still...you hear one Christmas carol, you go home and hear people yelling, and pretty soon all you really want under the tree is someone to hold you.


Man....at least around the holidays, I had Ally for comfort.

:rolleyes: And no....I'm not on medication....

...and yes...the Happy Christmas Countdown thread will continue ;)

Storm
12-06-2002, 06:38 PM
Go Disneyboy :D ;) :)

Digu Volz
12-06-2002, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by DisneyBoy
and pretty soon all you really want under the tree is someone to hold you.


Nah, go for the missle toes. That's the money, uh, stand undering thing.

And, no, it isn't petty, at all. I don't think so, anyway. Finding someone that loves you like that will be one of your greatest accomplishments.

Patrick Bateman
12-06-2002, 10:13 PM
Ahh, someone else feeling down around the holidays I see. And for similar reasons, no less. I sympathize with you. While my life isn't loveless by any means, my Christmas day will more than likely suck, because of what's missing. Some things are worth more than any gift you could recieve. The best advise I have is to try and keep yourself surrounded by other people you care for. It's not the same by any means, but keeping to yourself will make it hurt a lot worse. But, as I give you this advice, I know deep down that even I won't use it. :rolleyes:

Wow, there certainly are a lot of hopeless romantics here a TZ. :p

Kuja's Light
12-06-2002, 11:59 PM
I hope it gets better for ya. Christams is a type too be happy

Anyway. I might get a girlfriend before Christmas break is over. So wish me luck.

DisneyBoy
12-07-2002, 10:40 AM
Go get 'em tiger!

One of my friends is working on an artsy-movie about a how this gal is empowered by a scarf, and goes out and gets a man....hot stuff! The point of my telling you this, is so that you can go out there, full of confidence and pride, and enjoy your search even if you don't find what you're looking for. I know I have tons of trouble doing that myself....but still, I can't help but think that people would be happier if they picked up something that boosted their confidence and went out and got what they wanted from life.

Ciao!


(Less Blue today....)

ZorBrak
12-07-2002, 12:05 PM
I find it ironic that I was just listening to My December by Linkin Park :rolleyes:

<<Pretty petty thing to moan about when the world sits on the brink of nuclear war, I know, but still...you hear one Christmas carol, you go home and hear people yelling, and pretty soon all you really want under the tree is someone to hold you.>>

Well I hear ya there, I'm single and hating it :mad: :(

DisneyBoy
12-07-2002, 01:32 PM
If it's any consolation, I love what yuo've done with your avatar :)


Oh God....I just remembered that New Years is also coming up... :( :( :(

You know what that means...standing around in a room full of couples as the clock strikes midnight, and realizing that this new year won't be any different than the last...or that even if you do find a gal/guy, it'll be another 12 months before you can finally have a midnight kiss..

Hopeless romantic? You betcha....emphasis on hopeless.

Singin' Stray Cat
12-07-2002, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by DisneyBoy
Hopeless romantic? You betcha....emphasis on hopeless.

Join the club. :rolleyes:

Yeah, I feel the same way myself sometimes. There's plenty of other stuff to worry about, such as what exactly I'm going to do once I'm out of college. I've got loving family members and great friends (both on and offline), some people can't even say they have that much.

But for some reason, every once in a while, something or someone will remind me that I'm still single. And what would otherwise be a normal carefree day for me turns sour, and I'll spend the rest of the day moping about one thing I don't have. For no apparent reason! I hate it when this happens!

(BTW, DisneyBoy, your post wasn't really one of those reminders. So don't worry. :) When I said reminder, I was thinking of some of my other friends getting married, or seeing a boy and girl walk together through the mall holding hands, or something like that.)

Kuja's Light
12-07-2002, 06:42 PM
I've only had one other girlfriend. But she dumped me without telling me. But I actually got over it fast. I believe the one I'm hoping for, is the one. But it's still one of the hardest things in the world too do.

DisneyBoy
12-07-2002, 07:07 PM
Dumped you? Pretty harsh stuff. I'm of the opinion that if you're invovled with someone even after one date, you should always tell them to their face how you feel. It's plain kindness. Of course, that may just be me...

And Singin' Stray Cat - I'm totally feeling ya! That's exactly how my "sour days" go. Things are dandy, I'm humming a tune, and suddenly boom! I'm out of commission. Sucks really...and I bet it happens to more than just us.

Some of your friends are already getting married! Man, that's rough! Talk about plain annoying...

:rolleyes: I can't wait until the people I knew start getting married. It's bad enough that every relationship they've ever had, party they've ever thrown or growing-pain they've ever gone through has been completely supported by a whole group of people...once they all start getting married, their ceremonies are going to be talked about for years...

:rolleyes: Bitter? You betcha!

I guess that speaks to my friends and my state of mind. I guess I end up befriending people who already have close friends, and who therefore see me as expendable - He doesn't have to be there for the party, doesn't have to know all my secrets and certainly doesn't need a phone call everyone now and then.

Don't we all just need a phone call sometimes? Don't you wish people would open up to those outside of their perfect little circle? All my life, I've tried to be nice to everyone, regardless of their social status or friends. Today that leaves me with tons of acquintances and no best buds. Am I better off? Are they?

Christmas and New Years force people to re-evaluate their lives and their accomplishments. They say life is what you make it, and I know we're all trying to make it great, but I really wish a few more people would just step into all our lives and let us give to them and receive from them. So many folks are just so closed off, it's incredible.

Hmmmm...maybe that's why we come here. Maybe we're all looking for the types of people we don't have in our daily lives to listen and share. I know that getting respect and attention from all of you has really been a blessing, and I hope you can say you've all had the same experience. My parents can't understand why this page means anything to me...but it does. No....You do.

So, when the time comes for us to look up at the tv for the countdown, or pause at a party for a toast, or even watch your clock from behind the steering wheel...I may not be there with you, but know that I'm wishing you all the best of New Years, and that I really do care. You've been great friends to me this year, and I really want you to know it matters.

Kuja's Light
12-07-2002, 08:56 PM
That was beautiful man. Very well said. I may not know any of you guys real well yet, but it's great too be here anyway.

TimTwoFace
12-08-2002, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by Singin' Stray Cat

But for some reason, every once in a while, something or someone will remind me that I'm still single. And what would otherwise be a normal carefree day for me turns sour, and I'll spend the rest of the day moping about one thing I don't have. For no apparent reason! I hate it when this happens!


Man, that is SO me! I'm generally a happy person to begin with, but sometimes thoughts like that creep in from out of the blue and turn me into a very bitter, crabby person for the rest of the day. A good night's sleep usually fixes me up, but the fact remains that I'm single, and not by choice. *SNIFF* No, I don't need a girlfriend to validate my existance, but it certainly wouldn't hurt, either. I have a lot of love to give, and it'd be nice to recieve some, too. :)

-Tim

Zoddman
12-08-2002, 04:34 AM
I know EXACTLY how you feel, DisneyBoy. At high school this year, everybody has a special someone except for me. Why? I have no idea. I'm not ugly, I don't have zits, I'm not a jerk to women, yet Girls only seem to like me in a friend sort of way, you know, talking to them. But nobody seems to want to go that extra mile.

We are also having a Tolo dance coming up on the 14th, and no girl has asked me out to it.

Sigghh...

I need a special someone. :(

DisneyBoy
12-08-2002, 01:53 PM
What's a Tolo dance?

Here let me tell you a short story, Zodd:

It was my High School Grad Ball in a few weeks, and a close friend of mine (and secret crush) had already made a date with someone else...at one of my parties three years before! (Sigh) Anyways, I'd always dreamed that I'd be going to grad with this another girl, the first girl I ever fell for...but she'd moved away years before and lived in the States. We'd started to communicate via email and such, but there was no way she could make it over for the grad. There went my two top choices...

As the big day drew near, I tried to comfort myself with the thought of going alone. What made things worse was that all of my close friends had arranged for a limo...and left me out because they all had dates! I was crushed. Here it was - the biggest night of my young life...and nothing about it would be magical. I frantically called a handful of female acquaintances, but they all had dates...and that's when I realized that I was going alone, for sure.

And I accepted it. I even got invited into another friend's limo for free because there was room for one! I took pictures with them, then took pictures with my friends from the other limo and had a great time. At the school ceremony, another female friend of mine who cracks me up walked with me in our procession, I danced with my Grandmother during the "couples dance", which was really nice. Then we were off to a logde for the "Ball"...which really, really sucked. Everybody changed into their sweatpants and went off to smoke or do otherwise...but I did get to dance with that gal of mine who had another date.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that Grad isn't what you think. Go into it expecting it to be lame, and you might be presently surprised. I had a few good moments which I treasure, the rest was really dull and it didn't matter at all that I didn't have a date. People only get dates to have someone pretty standing next to them in a picture. If you care about that person, go right ahead and be their date...but don't get desperate just because you don't have one. Believe me, I'd have loved to have that friend from the States come up for my Grad...but in the end I'm glad she didn't cause it would never have lived up to my expectations. I looked great in my solo pictures, and proved to myself that I didn't need anyone but me to have a good time!

I know that's not much of a comfort, cause everyone wants their grad to rock, but when life sends you lemons, make lemonade! You'll be Ok, I promise... ;)

ZorBrak
12-08-2002, 10:59 PM
I'm just pissed cuz I don't have a date for my Junior Prom and I really have no clue why . I haven't asked anyone out because any girls I'd even consider asking are all taken errrg and honestly...girls at South Meck suck, there are no cute geek girls. It's pot or nothing with these ditzes. I'm standing in the same position as everybody else here, wondering W.T.H. I'm gunna do because I'm sure as heck not missing my prom.

Kuja's Light
12-08-2002, 11:13 PM
I never went to any of school dances. The only thing I went to was the Senior Banquent. And boy was it fun. I realized that I was truly lacking in dancing. It was my fear of feeling like an idiot dancing. But that night, I learned something about myself. And isn't one of life's important things?

Zoddman
12-09-2002, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by DisneyBoy
What's a Tolo dance?A tolo dance is when the girls ask the guy to the dance. Don't ask me why, it's really weird.

Barb Gordon
12-09-2002, 12:54 AM
Okay, well I think you all know I'm a pretty cheerful gal. If not excesively so! Christmas is one of my ultimate favorite holidays, and I celebrate it to the fullest. But the aspect of being with a significant other during that holiday certainly is a downer when there is no "other". It can be downright dang depressing. Now it's never something I dwell on, there's just too many way to fun, but it does ache a little. Especially with college and seeing so many couples around hugging, holding hands and kissing. Disregarding my short relationship with a great guy who moved away in my Freshman year, I have never ever had a boyfriend. That never bugged me before. I had great friends, mostly guys, Carnage and I went to all the dances together, and sometimes I'd have a guy or two showing interests in me. Except that unfortuantly I never shared the same feelings. But now, not as many friends, certainly not as close, no guys whatsoever, and suddenly being alone begins to sting. I'm always fantasizing about some great guy, going on date, to clubs and dancing. I'm a pathetically hopeless romantic. *hugs* So you DisneyBoy, and any others, are certainly not alone! Hehe, we should all have a cyber Singles party during X-mas and New Years.

~Barb

TimTwoFace
12-09-2002, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by Barb Gordon
Hehe, we should all have a cyber Singles party during X-mas and New Years.


*PONDERS HOW THIS CAN WORK* OK, I'll bring the cyber-spiked punch and Christmas crackers.

*SUDDENLY LOOKS REALLY DESPERATE* *CLINGS TO SOMEONE'S LEG*

-Tim

Patrick Bateman
12-09-2002, 02:34 AM
*SUDDENLY LOOKS REALLY DESPERATE* *CLINGS TO SOMEONE'S LEG*
Get off of my leg, Tim. :p

panther3751
12-09-2002, 02:49 PM
I can actually understand this. I feel lonely especially around the holidays (most especially because most of my close friends have boyfriends) and it can hurt. Then you pick yourself up and smile a false smile, and somehow go on. The lonely ones must always go on.

Additionally, last Christmas holiday my then significant-other broke up with me. . . . . . and then I found out that person was cheating on me. Way to ruin a vacation.

So, which pain is more difficult to bear?

Does it matter?

Elven Moon
12-09-2002, 11:07 PM
While some people say "'Tis better than to have loved and lost..." I think that's all a bunch of hogwash. And I'm not just saying that because I've never been asked out, on a date, or involved with anyone romantically ever in my entire life :rolleyes:

Sometimes, especially when my sister and her boyfriend hang around, it can hurt, even sting, because I'm so jealous. You know I've never even gotten flowers? But then I tell myself "Hey, you don't need that. Society tells you that you don't truely live until you have that, but it's not true. Women don't need a man to establish their worth or happiness." And I put a smile on my face and move on. What else am I to do?

Men are accessories, not necessaties... right? Besides, watching shows like Maurey and Jenny Jones can tell me I'm pretty lucky and better off. I save myself heartache, heartbreak, rejection, and money.

ZorBrak
12-10-2002, 04:46 AM
I can't take that view on love...I can't see having a love in my life as an accessory, for me it is a necessity. I am truly a hopeless romantic if there ever was one . I am probably one of the few high school guys looking for LOVE and not just some sex...ironically I'm the one who doesn't have anyone. I mean half of it is my fault because I am very picky, but most girls don't seem to want to be in a serious relaitonship, or they don't share any interests with me, or they a bunch of drunk potheads or well you get the idea...::sigh::...sometimes I think it's just my school...I have met some pretty awesome girls outside of school. :cool:

Zoddman
12-10-2002, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by ZorBrak
I can't take that view on love...I can't see having a love in my life as an accessory, for me it is a necessity. I am truly a hopeless romantic if there ever was one . I am probably one of the few high school guys looking for LOVE and not just some sex...ironically I'm the one who doesn't have anyone. I mean half of it is my fault because I am very picky, but most girls don't seem to want to be in a serious relaitonship, or they don't share any interests with me, or they a bunch of drunk potheads or well you get the idea...::sigh::...sometimes I think it's just my school...I have met some pretty awesome girls outside of school. :cool: Yeah, pretty much the same way w/me. either they're cute and I'd like to get to know them but they're not interested, or they're stoned potheads who have the I.Q. of a potato. I also want a real relationship also, and most girls just want to party and gaet stoned and have sex. Me? I just want to cuddle on the couch.

ZorBrak
12-10-2002, 11:37 PM
LOL it happened to me again today :eek: I thought about asking out this chick out who always seemed sorta cool and then she started talking about smoking a bowl within like the first five minutes of the conversation and I kinda just opted to skip her. I hate pot, it's weak and I'm sorry but I can't date someone who does it maybe I'm too picky but oh well.....::sigh:: this school sucks :rolleyes: :mad:

DisneyBoy
12-11-2002, 12:09 PM
Nice to know there's a bunch of us out there! Keep faith guys and gals. As we get older, people start to prioritize the important things like respect, friendship and love, rather than firm bodies, popularity and partying. I guess we're just too good for them! :p Don't worry though...they'll catch up eventually!

ZorBrak
12-11-2002, 05:17 PM
Hey now who said I wasn't firm? :cool: But seriously my looks and social status are honestly not causing me any problems... it's the fact that there isn't anyone at my school that I want to be with....I know I'm picky :p

Kuja's Light
12-11-2002, 05:27 PM
Don't worry Zorbrak. You're friends here are behind you.

G. Wen
12-11-2002, 11:03 PM
You need to learn how to feel content w/o others loving you. You need to learn how to love yourself. Otherwise, all the love in the world won't cure your lonliness.

Zoddman
12-12-2002, 12:38 AM
We do love who we are. We just need a special someone in our lives. Let me guess, you're a monk huh?

ZorBrak
12-12-2002, 01:02 AM
Hey now, I love myself just fine, in fact I kick ass :D , I just need a girlfriend who isn't plastic. simple as that.

Barb Gordon
12-12-2002, 01:20 AM
ack. I thought, despite being surrounded by a loving family, that spending the holidays without a b/f was depressing enough. I was wrong: loving someone and not being together for the holidays seems much worse! Then again...getting presents would probably lessen the ache :)

~Barb

James
12-12-2002, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by Barb Gordon
ack. I thought, despite being surrounded by a loving family, that spending the holidays without a b/f was depressing enough. I was wrong: loving someone and not being together for the holidays seems much worse! Then again...getting presents would probably lessen the ache :)

~Barb

I concur. :) Especially on the present bit... ;)

ZorBrak
12-12-2002, 06:46 PM
EWW JUST GROSS, new personal policy: I'm not even going to try to find a GF at school now... here just read this to see why

http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59325

Patrick Bateman
12-13-2002, 12:57 AM
ack. I thought, despite being surrounded by a loving family, that spending the holidays without a b/f was depressing enough. I was wrong: loving someone and not being together for the holidays seems much worse!
Amen to that!

Except change that b/f part to g/f. :rolleyes: :p

batboy2001
12-13-2002, 08:34 AM
*sighs* It's uber depressing to go on a winter wonderland type dream date with just your family... Ah, well, I decided to become a monk anyways, single life for(awhile)! Though nearing the holidays you do become depressed seeing two couples or something, GRRR...

Disney boy I can relate to the never being liked back bit. Do these ppl still torture you by asking you to eat with them?? LoL...

Boy what a buncha down and outers we are. :tom:

DisneyBoy
12-13-2002, 03:40 PM
If you want to lift your spirits high, drop by the Christmas Countdown Thread!!!!


And never feel badly about getting depressed...it happens to all of us, regardless of marital status. As the wise and quirky John Cage once said:

"As sad as it is to want something you can't have, it's much worse to have something you don't want."

ZorBrak
12-26-2002, 12:35 AM
As I sit here listening to The Ataris...I can't help but think damn this is ridiculous. Just when I thought I was going to feel a little better I got stung the worst. I had waited for this day forever. I woke up early and opened my geeky little presents...they were fun for a while...but then everybody in the family showed up for dinner....everybody and their girlfriend or wife...well everyone showed up except my girlfriend...oh wait I don't have one. :( :(
....I realized I was only person out of like 18 people there with the POSSIBLE exception of my 13 year old brother (whom from what I have heard DOES have a girlfriend) and the exception of my screwed over grandfather (who has lost 2 wives in the last 8 years) that is single. So I went off and played a stupid video game...by myself....I felt like such a dork. While I did this all my cousins talked with or about their signifigant other. I don't know what the hell to do anymore this is such BS. :confused: I'm not a shy guy, I'm not an ugly guy, I'm one of the few guys out there who still values a relationship for more than just sex, and I'm usually pretty damn funny...but I just can't seem to get a freaking date, WTH!.
I'll be honest I know what half of the problem is. I don't even look for a gf at school. I know that sounds crazy...but if you went there you'd understand....it must have more potheads than any school in the state...and it's so full of disease that it's disgusting. There's just no one there for me. So I like don't know where the hell to look anymore. I know the last thing I wanna do is come across as desperate to every girl I meet outside of school since they're my only damn chance, but the truth is...I feel like I AM. God this is pathetic...this truly was Blue Christmas for me:( :( :( :( :( . ...I'm going to bed...'night... :(