Inu-Yasha Editing Report - The Noh Mask One

[Arxane]

Edit Time! So, what was taken out of today's episode? Nothing. Then again, did this episode demand any editing? Nope. The manga, on the other hand...

Anime vs. Manga: Um...was this episode related to the manga? Seriously, there are so many differences between the manga and this episode that it'll take a while to list them all. This story arc was obviously far too graphic to bring to television, so it had to be rewritten. The biggest difference, however, was that the mask didn't absorb people by touching them. It ate them. Lots of blood flying everywhere. IMHO, a classic example of why the manga is better than the anime. Read the manga and you'll agree.

Next episode is a true filler, meaning it adds NOTHING to the overall story of the Shikon Jewel. Does that mean it's bad? I'll let you decide next week. As for edits, there shouldn't be any (but again, don't take that as a guarantee). The biggest problem I'm worried about the next episode is whether they'll refer to the little girl going to Hell. Hopefully, they won't use the lame term of "Spirit World". "Hell" just has more oomph, eh?

Well, that's it for this week's editing report. Until next time.

[Mugen]

Even though this is off-topic, was Ranma 1/2 shown on network TV in Japan or pay cable? I noticed in the show that it had nudtiy and I was wondering.

[Arde]

Are there any other differences in the storyline other than the gore or violence factor?

How about the plotholes present in the anime: (grandpa not eaten by the mask, Kagome being able to outrun the mask until the building, a piece of a jewel shard on the mask)
Are the plotholes also present in the manga?

[Arxane]

Originally posted by Arde
Are there any other differences in the storyline other than the gore or violence factor?

How about the plotholes present in the anime: (grandpa not eaten by the mask, Kagome being able to outrun the mask until the building, a piece of a jewel shard on the mask)
Are the plotholes also present in the manga? ]

Hell, no!

Let me give you a quick rundown of the manga version. The Noh Mask was being brought to the shrine in the present by a woman who had been given it as a family heirloom. However, the mask got free and took over her body. The body doesn't melt, but it is hit by a car and thus the mask needs to devour more flesh. So the mask actually opens its sideways mouth and devours four teenage gang members and thus forms a body made entirely out of naked flesh. You can see the teenagers' faces and limbs in the body. This body, however, is too slow to move, and that's why Kagome can outrun it when it tries to chase her. The rest of the story is more or less in the episode, although there are still quite a few major differences.

But in regards to your question about the grandfather not being absorbed, the mask hadn't found a body and thus couldn't absorb anything. It needed to first find a face, but grandpa's face was guarded by spell scrolls. Still, this episode cannot compare to the manga and is definately one of the series' weaker episodes.

[Fata Morgana]

Yes, there are a lot of other differences between the anime and the manga. This episode is the one that's disapointed me the most so far in its differences form the manga. First of all, all the cute things that go on with Inu Yasha and Kagome's relationship are pretty much cut. But anyway, as to your polt holes:

"grandpa not eaten by the mask" - in the manga, the mask wasn't stored in the temple. Instead, a woman was bringing the mask to the temple to be excorcised. Instead, probably because of the power of the Shikon jewel, the mask possesed the woman. Unlike the action scene with gramps shown in the anime (which didn't seem in character for him, I didn't buy it), it was short but creepy little scene.

"Kagome being able to outrun the mask until the building" - In the anime, by the time the Noh mask is chasing Kagome in that scene, it's an ugly and impractical conglomeration of several bodies. It's large and unweildy, and so she's able to out run it. In fact, the reason she climbs on that building is that she expects that the critter won't be able to climb up there to get her (she's wrong, of course, the mask figures out a way to come get her anyway).

"a piece of a jewel shard on the mask" - How is this a plot hole?

Fata Morgana

[RedTail]

a piece of a jewel shard on the mask" - How is this a plot hole?

Well it's sort of weird. It means that the events in the past did effect the future, but only in a limited capacity. There is no timeline split since the jewel shards exist in the future. It's weird how everything else seems unchanged though.

For instance, are we to believe that even w/ all the jewel shards scattered that most demons suddenly died out? That they didn't collect them and grow powerful enough to wipe out or subjuage humanity? Then again, it is just a television show :P

To sum it all up:

1. There aren't two different timelines.
2. What happens in the past seems to have little effect on the future.

- RedTail

[Arde]

I see, too bad there's just too many storyline cut from the manga version that the anime version just feels weird.
Other than that, about the jewel shard, does feudal Japan that Kagome goes to has anything to do with the present Japan?
If not, it will be weird that the Noh mask has a jewel shard considering that the jewel has never been shattered before.
But if it is, then it makes sense.

[Masamune2052]

Man, I need to start a Magna library. Sidenote: The Major in 'GitS' looks so so much hotter than the one in the anime versions.

[Fata Morgana]

Originally posted by RedTail
Well it's sort of weird. It means that the events in the past did effect the future, but only in a limited capacity. There is no timeline split since the jewel shards exist in the future. It's weird how everything else seems unchanged though.

For instance, are we to believe that even w/ all the jewel shards scatter that most demons suddenly died out? That they didn't collect them and grow powerful enough to wipe out or subjuage humanity?

I think that the future is affected by the past... but in the past, we might possible assume that IY and Kagome collected all, or almost all of the shards. The only reason this one escaped was because it was imbedded within a tree, and so IY and Kagome never came across a rampaging demon like they did when they discovered the other shards.

About there being no demons in the future... there maybe an explanation for this within Takahashi's story. I'm not really sure, because 1) she hasn't written it all yet and 2) I haven't even gotten to read all that she _has_ written. One of the great things about Takahshi's writing in Inu Yasha, IMO, is how she plants seeds in the very first volume, but doesn't explain them until maybe 10 volumes later. And suddenly you're like "whoa! That wasn't just randomness... she put it there for a reason."

Then again, it is just a television show :P

To sum it all up:

1. There aren't two different timelines.
2. What happens in the past seems to have little effect on the future.

- RedTail

We don't know that Kagome and IY didn't have any effect upon the future. For all we know, Kagome is a figure of legend in Japan's history textbooks. It may be that Kagome was always _meant_ to go back into the past, thus creating the future as she knows it (temporal paradoxes - gotta love 'em!). We have no way to gauge Kagome's effect. In fact, by saying "where are the monsters in the future?!", we may well be realizing Kagome's actual effect on the future.

Fata Morgana

[RedTail]

I think that the future is affected by the past... but in the past, we might possible assume that IY and Kagome collected all, or almost all of the shards. The only reason this one escaped was because it was imbedded within a tree, and so IY and Kagome never came across a rampaging demon like they did when they discovered the other shards.

In the preview for next week, it was mentioned that there are other jewel shards present in the future. Like you said though, maybe on some of them are present in the future, but the rest were collected by Inu Yasha and Kagome in the past. Those that weren't collected somehow were overlooked by other demons as well.

Ah, order has been restored to the universe. I won't go insane now!

- RedTail

[Arxane]

Originally posted by RedTail
In the preview for next week, it was mentioned that there are other jewel shards present in the future. Like you said though, maybe on some of them are present in the future, but the rest were collected by Inu Yasha and Kagome in the past. Those that weren't collected somehow were overlooked by other demons as well.

Ah, order has been restored to the universe. I won't go insane now!

- RedTail

Actually, as far as I know, no other shards are collected in the present time. I don't know if Takahashi forgot about that later in the series or if she thought she had mucked up everything too much already :p

[adultswimfan]

Since you guys keep talking about the differences between the anime and the manga, I was wondering if you could tell me if you can find manga on the internet. Or if you have to buy it. Either way, let me know.

[Fata Morgana]

If by "find" it, you mean find scans of it online, then the answer is no. If by "find" you mean can you buy it at online stores, the answer is yes. Probably the cheapest place to get it is buy.com - but don't quote me on that.

Fata Morgana

[adultswimfan]

Originally posted by Fata Morgana
If by "find" it, you mean find scans of it online, then the answer is no. If by "find" you mean can you buy it at online stores, the answer is yes. Probably the cheapest place to get it is buy.com - but don't quote me on that.

Fata Morgana Yeah, I was wondering about finding scans of it to be perfectly honest. I bet I can find some if I look hard enough. And if that doesn't work, then I'll buy some at buy.com like you suggested.

[Mackenzie Rainelle]

Oooh, I just noticed something. In the manga, didn't the rock smash Inuyasha on the first "sit", and then every time she said it again, he got squished further into the ground? He ended up about 3 feet under or something......

[etj4eagle]

Originally posted by RedTail
Well it's sort of weird. It means that the events in the past did effect the future, but only in a limited capacity. There is no timeline split since the jewel shards exist in the future. It's weird how everything else seems unchanged though.

For instance, are we to believe that even w/ all the jewel shards scattered that most demons suddenly died out? That they didn't collect them and grow powerful enough to wipe out or subjuage humanity? Then again, it is just a television show :P

To sum it all up:

1. There aren't two different timelines.
2. What happens in the past seems to have little effect on the future.

- RedTail

Its just that the show does not use the more common time travel theory. Instead it uses the same one as "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" in which you cannot change the past as everything is fated to occur just the way it does.

In this world you can't go back in time and kill one of your ancestors (that kind of paradox is not allowed), however if you kill someone else the world you come from is completely based on you having done that act. Hence when you return to the future you don't see a change, because it had already happened.

[Artimus Gigan]

Well isn't The Feudal Japan that Kagomei visits is an alternate one? So hence it's not the Feudal Japan from her world, it's one from another.The Mask also could have slipped as easily from That Feudal Japan to another just as easily as Kagomei does. Hence the mask stays in Kagomei's dimention but only activates when she brings the Crystals near. So in turn her actions did effect the present because the mask was made in that Alternate Feudal Japan and came here.

The well is just built on a transdimentional warpgate the well isn't magic itself.

[etj4eagle]

Originally posted by Artimus Gigan
Well isn't The Feudal Japan that Kagomei visits is an alternate one? So hence it's not the Feudal Japan from her world, it's one from another.The Mask also could have slipped as easily from That Feudal Japan to another just as easily as Kagomei does. Hence the mask stays in Kagomei's dimention but only activates when she brings the Crystals near. So in turn her actions did effect the present because the mask was made in that Alternate Feudal Japan and came here.

The well is just built on a transdimentional warpgate the well isn't magic itself.

The one problem with that idea is the fact that at least in the anime, the mask has been around for generations. And Grandpa knew what it was capable of from the stories passed down from his great grandfather. So it doesn't sound like a jewel shard escaped into the present. Instead it sounds more likely that the jewel shard was already there in the mask when the mask was first sealed, quite a few decades before Kagome was even born.

[adultswimfan]

Originally posted by adultswimfan
Yeah, I was wondering about finding scans of it to be perfectly honest. I bet I can find some if I look hard enough. And if that doesn't work, then I'll buy some at buy.com like you suggested. Sorry about quoting myself here, but I searched on Google today and guess what I found? Yu Yu Hakusho manga! There are scans of it that you can read for free! You heard me, free! Check it out here (http://www.aestheticism.net/yyhdjs/general/g_manga2.html) if you don't believe me.

[Masamune2052]

Good job adultswimfan, now if you can find me Inu Yasha magna scans so I can see what arxane is really talking about in his editing reports that would be great. Mostly I wanna see when Fluffy stabs Inu Yasha's eye to get the pearl and when Hinten punches his wife's face in. :D