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Carnage
10-07-2002, 07:42 PM
Alrighty, I'm sure that most people that have played D&D have heard some person at some point and time tell them that it is a satanic game. I've heard some pretty funny rumors about the game. But they all come from people who have never played the game. So I was wondering, does anyone here think it's satanic, and why? And if you don't believe so, and you've heard some funny rumors about the game, share them!
batboy2001
10-07-2002, 07:53 PM
Cool poll idea man. I was thinking of making something similiar. :cool:
murmur
10-07-2002, 08:27 PM
I think this is one those things where nobody really cares, including the religious. It's just a small group of people that make a disproportional stink. You know, squeaky wheel gets the grease and all.
batboy2001
10-07-2002, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by murmur
I think this is one those things where nobody really cares, including the religious. It's just a small group of people that make a disproportional stink. You know, squeaky wheel gets the grease and all. You would be suprised my friend.
meatwad945
10-07-2002, 08:52 PM
meh game it is
Psilon
10-07-2002, 09:03 PM
IT IS TRUE EVIL...
IT SUPPORTS PAGAN GODS, HEATHENS ALL OF YOU!!!
BEG FOR FORGIVENESS

SATAN SPAWNED IT ALONG WITH ROCK AND SCIENCE!!!!
Ajax
10-07-2002, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by Psilon2011
IT IS TRUE EVIL...
IT SUPPORTS PAGAN GODS, HEATHENS ALL OF YOU!!!
BEG FOR FORGIVENESS

SATAN SPAWNED IT ALONG WITH ROCK AND SCIENCE!!!!

What a funny guy. But seriously those who think this game is satanic are people who are just bored. Maybe we should give them some D&D to play with.
Sandro
10-07-2002, 10:05 PM
Having never played D&D, I can't really say much. However, people should just be reminded that IT IS A GAME!
Carnage
10-07-2002, 10:52 PM
to be honest, before I'd ever watched the game I'd heard that it was satanic and I didn't know one way or the other. But after watching the game for only a minute it's very easy to see that it isn't. Some people think it's an evil game because it mostly takes place in the minds of the players. Other than that, all you use is pen, paper, and dice. I've heard things like we sacrifice cats, or we summon demonic creatures, or we call on the powers of the devil by sacrificing our soul, and then we actually become the character we're playing as. Although I find that last one fairly amusing, these are all just rumors. I encourage anyone who believes the game is evil to simply watch a group play, or play it yourself, just for a few minutes.

Also, it states in the Player's Handbook:

"THIS IS A GAME OF FANTASY--The action of a Dungeons and Dragons game takes place in the imaginations of the players. Like actors in a movie, players sometimes speak as if they were their characters or as if their fellow players were their characters. These rules even adopt that casual approach, using "you" to refer to and to mean "your character." In reality, however, you are no more your character than you are the king when you play chess. Likewise, the world implied by these rules is an imaginary one."
Chosen Raven
10-07-2002, 11:18 PM
I used to think it was evil when I was younger because of the stupid reason that people told me so. But as I grew up and began not to take people at face value I took a neutral position. Then I went to a site (go to yahoo and type Christian Gamers Guild) and an author by the name of M. Joseph Young convinced me to believe that not only is D&D not evil, its downright good. Go to the chaplin section of the site. Print out his articles and giv'em to anyone who says D&D is evil.
Psilon
10-08-2002, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by Chosen Raven
I used to think it was evil when I was younger because of the stupid reason that people told me so. But as I grew up and began not to take people at face value I took a neutral position. Then I went to a site (go to yahoo and type Christian Gamers Guild) and an author by the name of M. Joseph Young convinced me to believe that not only is D&D not evil, its downright good. Go to the chaplin section of the site. Print out his articles and giv'em to anyone who says D&D is evil.

HE IS TRYING DELUDE YOU MY SON,
STAY ON THE PATH :p
JustJack
10-08-2002, 03:47 AM
To the one person who voted 'yes'.....Me~~>http://forums.off-topic.net/images/smilies/slap.gif <~~you

When will the overly-religious understand the concept behind "fiction"?
Albright
10-08-2002, 06:33 AM
Of course it's satanic! Jack Chick says so (http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp), so it must be true, right?
Barb Gordon
10-08-2002, 08:32 AM
It's only satanic for the weirdos that want it to be. True, some people are sad lonely guys and they take it to the extreme. But there are sad lonely people in just about everything that take it too far. D&D is a fun FANTASY game, it's truly a blast. And most of the people who look down on it no nothing about the game, never seen one and never played in one. Beleive me, if they had, most likely they would be indifferent or see that it's kinda cool. Ignorance can be such a horrible thing.

~Barb
JohnCrichton
10-08-2002, 09:11 AM
I say it's Satanic. I know my friends and I don't consider it a successful session unless we have Mountain Dew, pizza, a nice cold basement to play in and a sacrifcial virgin.


:p
James
10-08-2002, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by Barb Gordon
It's only satanic for the weirdos that want it to be. True, some people are sad lonely guys and they take it to the extreme. But there are sad lonely people in just about everything that take it too far. D&D is a fun FANTASY game, it's truly a blast. And most of the people who look down on it no nothing about the game, never seen one and never played in one. Beleive me, if they had, most likely they would be indifferent or see that it's kinda cool. Ignorance can be such a horrible thing.

~Barb

Well in that case, anything is Satanic, if I may extend the concept further - the same goes to the same allegations against, music, literature, art... anything can be derided as Satanic as it's the persons motivations which drive this preference, not the object itself.

Never been big into D&D, but I used to have a great group of friends in which we played many RPG's of Marvel Superheroes, Cyberpunk, Star Trek and Star Wars. Actually there was a little D&D too... All were great stimulus of the imagination. Was it a 'lonely' trek? Yeah, for it a bit - we were at a boys school, but then we later got our girlfriends involved and we all had a riot of beer. Some of my fondest memories come from the days round a table. We were never mega serious, but the concepts and time lines and adventures were intoxicating. If I had the same bunch I'd still do it, but sometimes it's best never to try and relive past experiences...!
Carnage
10-08-2002, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by JohnCrichton
I say it's Satanic. I know my friends and I don't consider it a successful session unless we have Mountain Dew, pizza, a nice cold basement to play in and a sacrifcial virgin.


:p

hmmm... sacrificial virgin? I'll have to try that one, hehe. I know that some of my older buds that are already out of college, used to have a lot of fun playing around people that thought it was weird. For example, if that heard somebody coming, they would grab the cat in the house, put it on the table, and hold a knife over it. Then the person would walk in and be just totally freaked out. Then as soon as the person left, the cat was off the table and they were back to their normal game play. Hehehe, I guess it's because of people like my buds that D&D has gotten a bad name for itself, but it's just so funny!
JohnCrichton
10-08-2002, 01:39 PM
There's a sound clip floating around the internet about DnD players playing a game, but before it there's this foreboding voice talking about how finally caught on tape, the sick, twisted and Satanic world of Dungeons and Dragons.

Then it just goes in to a bunch of dorks, dweebs and geeks fighting over sodas and the DM getting angry that somebody brought their girlfriend. :D Funny stuff, I'll have to find it!

This one chick I talked to on the internet a looooong time ago says that the characters we make are actually demons trying to get control of our souls.

I was like, "Cool! I always wished I could fly!"

Weird thing about it was that this woman wasn't some extremist or anything... she was your average everyday person, but totally and utterly believes DnD's the work of the devil..... I swear, some people's children. :rolleyes:
Chris Wood
10-08-2002, 02:56 PM
Of course it's satanic. Just watch Tom Hanks' stirring performance in "Mazes and Monsters" for confirmation.

Just take a look at your average group of D&D players. If they didn't emerge from the depths of hell, they sure look like they live in the neighborhood.
zimbach
10-08-2002, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by Desslar
Of course it's satanic. Just watch Tom Hanks' stirring performance in "Mazes and Monsters" for confirmation.

Just take a look at your average group of D&D players. If they didn't emerge from the depths of hell, they sure look like they live in the neighborhood. But Mazes and Monsters is a completely different game, and a craptacularly fictional one at that! :p

The only remotely satanic thing about D&D is the cover art on the 1st edition AD&D Players Handbook and Dungeon Master's Guide rule books. Of course, those promulgating the satanic D&D theory took this and ran with it around the world. The Players Handbook features a large horned idol, with thieves climbing it to steal its ruby eyes. The Dungeon Master's Guide has a very devilish looking firey giant red man (actually an efreet) clutching a scantily clad woman. The back cover has a mural of the fabled City of Brass, which does look rather hellish. The paintings weren't very good in those first editions, but they did nothing to say "this game is NOT satanic".