Post Your Reviews - Adult Swim Comedy [10/6/02]

[livingfruitvirus]

Wow. New stuff tonight!

[KingKoopa]

I can't wait for November, but the new Home Movies can hold me till then. Nothing else worth watching, but I have some new YYH on my computer and a Kenshin DVD I haven't finished yet that I'll probably watch when this HM is over.

This Home Movies episode's pretty good, one of the top 6 so far this season!

[JDuncan]

Home Movies: Good episode, the best one of season 3 so far (not saying much, though). It didn't seem to take the outlandish route, which I am very appreciative of (I was afraid Melissa was going to level a whole block, but no explosions, good job). The McGuirk subplot was good, especially his scenes alone with Erik, because then I can pretend that I'm watching Dr. Katz. It's also nice to see the movies get resurrected, because the absence of the movies in other season 3 episodes made them seem even less Home Movies-like. A

Oblongs: This show takes a turn in its downward spiral of horrible-ness and turns up a somewhat funny show. One of the reasons I found this funnier than other Oblongs may have been that the "We're freaks, isn't that funny" humor was toned down, and it's the only episode so far to feature Bob as the main character. C+

Rippin' Friends: E (consult the Ripping Friends thread)

HB:AaL: How many times do I have to see this? Now I know why this show is going on hiatus. But they do have to show reruns of it, I mean, it's not like there are some 20 unaired episodes or anything. Content A, but after seeing it 15 times, B-

[JTurner954]

Home Movies: Good stuff as usual. John "The Shopper Stalker" Mcgurk was great as usual. My only complaint: This show needs to be on DVD. Next week's episode looks ..... um, different. Overall grade: A-

Looking forward to this Ripping Friends show.

[ArmyOfClones]

Home Movies- Funniest Home Movies yet, the jokes were fast and hilarious. I can't wait for the next episode. :) A+

[noclist]

Home Movies - This show just continues to stay consistantly funny, I love every episode. The best parts were the bean conversations and the Susan B. (*****en!) Anthony convo at the end.

A-

[spectre316]

Oh, goodness. What a nice episode this was. I was pretty surprised. This episode.. well, on first viewing, ranks as the second best episode of the third season so far ("Shore Leave" is still #1). But even so, this episode does wonders in so many areas.

Pros: Complete random humor which might turn some fans off. It was amazing. I loved the scene in which McGuirk spies on Erik, and I also loved the whole, entire shopping mart sequences. It was a nice change to see HM in a different enviornment.

Not to mention other incredible moments. Of course it's impossible to list them all, about ten happen in a minute.

Cons: None to say as of now.

I'd rate this an A.

[JTurner954]

The Oblongs: This show is actually SLOWLY getting better. The show has went fron "heh" laughs to a few big laughs (that weren't predictable). If they reduced the hate and violence, it would be a good show. Overall grade: D Overall series grade: D-

[KingKoopa]

Home Movies: Great episode. Awesome way for the series to come back. The McGuirk subplot was better than the Brendon/Melissa plot, but that wasn't lacking either. The episode was definately fufilling, and deserves a 9.6.

Oblongs: Well, it was subpar, but then the ending came. The shark in the suit was so random it just had me cracking up! Thanks to the ending, I have to give this Oblongs a 8.9.

Ripping Friends: Screw this show. Just like Oblongs makes me miss Baby Blues, Ripping Friends makes me miss Mission Hill. This show, so far, is just stupid. Not in a funny way, either. Nothing worth watching in the future. Air Freakazoid in its place. 5.2

Harvey Birdman: My second favorite episode, behind Dabba Don. Even so, it's getting old. The show gets its much-needed hiatus in November. 9.4

Sealab 2021: My FAVORITE episode. Murphy's probably my favorite character, and this is him at his peak. 9.6

Aqua Teen Hunger Force: I've been falling asleep for this show for a while, but it was nice to see it again. It's a good episode, too. 9.3.

Still, I can't wait for November's AS.

[G1Ravage]

That guy in the Ripping Friends with the big C on his chest....is he voiced by the same guy who plays Captain Murpy on Sealab?

[Chibi Kageboshi]

Home Movies - Great Stuff.

The Oblongs - I agree it is slowly getting better

Ripping Friends - Bunch of Crap. It is not funny and it's not entertaining.

[The_Dominion]

Home Movies: great
Oblongs: Shark was funny that was it
Ripping Friends:How sad could it get this is even worse than the Oblongs, and that is saying a lot. Is there anyway the could take it off the air before it is over?

[sl4]

Home Movies - Missed it, I'll watch my tape of it tomorrow.

Oblongs - Funny stuff, the part at the beginning with the amusement park was great. - A

Ripping Friends - Started off kind of dumb, and I've only sighted about one piece of "adult" humor in the whole show. Not quite as bad as I expected though. Here's hoping the rest will be better. - C

Yep, Ripping Friends is the first time I have ever given a review lower than a B.

[KingKoopa]

I now have an opinion about the Ripping Friends. It's worse than Oblongs, Pilot Candidate, Baby Blues, the Xbox, and the moron who deleted the ASA openings combined. THAT's saying a HELL of alot!

[Killtacular]

I've always liked Spumco's facial animation.

It sure looks smooth, but the biggest problem with the show is that these episodes are aimed at kids. And that's why you, the Adult Swim audience, don't find it funny. If this were a Cartoon Cartoon, people would love it. But it's not your fault. And perhaps it's not their fault either. We'll just have to hope that the second season is adult-appropriate.

Supposedly the show gets better after the first episode too. I hear they make fun of soccer/carpool/overprotective-lawsuit-making-petition-signing moms in one episode.

[JTurner954]

The Ripping Friends: Wow, that was twisted stuff. I LIKE IT. It's like Ren and Stimpy got together and wrote this. The show would of been even better if Powdered Toastman saved the day. The gross stuff was quick and there wasn't much hate, making it A LOT better than The Oblongs. That last scene where the guy is hooked into the machine wasn't really needed though.

Overall grade: B+

If they bring back Mission Hill and replace The Oblongs with The Ripping Friends, ASC would be a better block, IMO.

[ArmyOfClones]

Ripping Friends- C- umm yea.. the starting was pretty funny.. then it just got to be extremely retarded. and the ending made me wanna puke.

HBAAL- Not one of my fav.s but its still good. B

[Killtacular]

Jesus Christ.

Mission Hill will be back... I've said this multiple times now.

CN isn't just going to take a show off of AS before all of the episodes air. That's why The Oblongs still airs. Mission Hill HAS aired all its episodes, which made it safe to take off. But, because they're nice to the fans, they're putting it back on in the winter anyway. Be grateful. They could've just yanked it and never put it on the air again.

[Carl]

It's time to take HB -OFF- until new eps come out.

I'm a fan of HB, but if they keep replaying the same 6 episodes over and over again, everyone's gonna hate it.

[MattThomasM2B]

(Loosely quoted) "You think Black Vulcan was my idea? I wanted to be Super Volt! Black Vulcan was Aquaman's idea!! I said, 'Well why don't we just call you WHITE FISH!?'"

LOL! That'll always get me....

[ArmyOfClones]

YAY!!! the bear clapping!!!!!!! that bear kicks ass!!!!! :)

[JTurner954]

Whoa, Matt Wilson. I'm not complaining about Mission Hill's removal. I just gave a quick "it would be cool if ..." scenario. That's all.

[Majin_Megabyte]

The Ripping Friends: This is one of funniest episode of the series since I did watch the show on Fox Kids. You guys have to wait an little bit for the best episode of series "Manman and Boyboy".
Next week episode is "The Infinoal Wedding!" an episode that didn't get to aired on Fox Kids because of 9/11. But the best part of this episode is when Rip was in the toture maniche. The episode gets an A-.

[stanteau]

to the Xbox bashing kid,I scoff at you

And RF was bad,REAL bad.

Missed HM

[Trigger]

Originally posted by KingKoopa
I now have an opinion about the Ripping Friends. It's worse than Oblongs, Pilot Candidate, Baby Blues, the Xbox, and the moron who deleted the ASA openings combined. THAT's saying a HELL of alot!

And the Juicy Fruit commercials.

[dawnyoshi]

Reviews coming. It's only 8:56 here! so I fall behind! :(

and for the responses...

originally posted by matt wilson
Supposedly the show gets better after the first episode too. I hear they make fun of soccer/carpool/overprotective-lawsuit-making-petition-signing moms in one episode.

...I think I can quote black mage from 8-bit theater on this one when hearing all those words put right before mom...
"Urge to destroy world rising"
^_^

originally posted by kingkoopa I now have an opinion about the Ripping Friends. It's worse than Oblongs, Pilot Candidate, Baby Blues, the Xbox, and the moron who deleted the ASA openings combined. THAT's saying a HELL of alot!

lol! I love that response! Of course, stating the Xbox with other things is better than ripping is kinda stretching it...Xbox is its own badness IMO. Not to get flamed or anything. heh heh...(recalls old post in video games board that reminded self of GameFAQs.com)

[gtracer72]

Home Movies: C-
Coach McGuirk: A-

Oblongs: D (the shark at the end was the only thing funny)

Ripping Friends: FFF (this episode was crap. It wasn't even funny.)

Harvey Birdman: B

Sealab 2021: A+

ATHF: A

Brak: A- (the only good Brak episode)

[ArmyOfClones]

"DO a B FLAT!!!!!!!!!! HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!" "and he shot a man in rino to watch him die!!!!!" LOLOLOLOLOLOL
"Banjo!!!!!!"
MAN! always been my fav. episode of Space Ghost!!!!!!!!!!! I love this episode!!!!!

[Arde]

Tonight is ASC's worst night.

Yay!! new Home Movies!! 4/5 just for being new

Bored with Oblongs - nothing interesting at all... 2.5/5 decently boring

They replaced Mission Hill with this!!???!!! God allmighty, what did ASC audience ever do to deserve this!!??!!
The Ripping Friends is just totally unwatchable, not even a scene is funny!!!
-10.00/5 for Ripping Friends....

Reruns all the way...

Tonight's ASC gets a negative grade just because of Ripping Friends.

[Spike Mcdougal]

Originally posted by stanteau
to the Xbox bashing kid,I scoff at you


Oh cry me a river!!

[pidget bill]

HM- A- great episode

Oblongs- C- (mediocre,I just felt this episode was a bit boing.like everyone said The shark was the best part!)

Ripping friends- D- (started out good but just downslided from there)

[stanteau]

Who said I was crying?I simply scoffed.Continue living your sheltered life

[unknown hero]

sealab 2021 - A+

que the chorus:
i hate marco and his mailbox head!

home movies B+

"The B stands for *****IN"

fignuts

[J-chan]

Jwa! I had my coffee this morning and vented my Monday Frontier frustration twice already, so here's a review that's less halfassed than usual for me.

HM: Mm, new episode ^^ God, McGuirk was fantastic in this one! He just keeps getting funnier. Jason's coupon book cracked me up.. and it only went uphill from there. The random dancing Walter and Perry was so FUNNY~~ So much character interaction in just one episode, it's amazing. Gotta love that Susan B Anthony presentation.

Oblongs: I liked seeing Bob in that suit, but it reminded me of how much I love watching him bounce around limbless. Beth was sooooo cute in this episode ^^ And that ending just blew me away, I was SO not expecting the shark.

At this point I realized that I really didn't care at all about the Ripping Friends, so I turned on Mario Sunshine and cleaned some eel teeth. From what reviews I've seen, I think I had more fun. Of course, because of this gaming venture I lost track of time and missed some other shows...

ATHF: This episode is growing on me.. slowly. Shake is just such an ass!

Brak: Err.. not a HORRIBLE ep, the ending was probably the best part because of the randomness of it. Poor Zorak..

Space Ghost: One word: BAAANJOOOOOOOOOO!

[Epyon999]

Home Movies - B

The Oblongs - B

The Ripping Friends - B

Harvey Birdman - D (seen it too many times)

Sealab 2021 - B

Fell asleep after Sealab.

Overall a good night.

[NewLib]

Missed Home Movies, hopefully they will rerun the episode before the end of the year...

Oblongs- A FUNNY EPISODE??? Wooh, I thought space and time would rip or something, but I guess not. B+

The Ripping Friends - End was good, rest was crap D

I've seen the rest except amazingly Banjo.
SGCTC "Banjo" - Wow, one of the funniest things I have ever seen. I don't know how I missed this episode the first 100 times it aired, but I can say now my life is more complete A+

Oh yeah Ripping Friends is as bad as Pilot Candidate, but a little better than the X Box. $199 for Halo?? Yeah right...

[HomeMoviesFan]

I think the Adult Swim turned into Sim Adult Swim. Man, they aired that "Sims Unleashed" commercial too much. Who cares if the Adult Swim is one of the only good places to put it because of the profanity? It still is annyoing!

Home Movies: I missed the very beginning, and got into it about 3 minutes into the show. Very funny. I liked how McGuirk was trying to get Erick, Lynch and Paula to come with him to dinner...

Grade: A

Oblongs: This was OK, but the shark gave it an A-.

Grade: A-

Ripping Friends: Uh...did I miss a disclaimer that might say "Uncut means one adult-ish part that is allowed back in the episode"? Seriously, this is the stupidest cartoon to ever air within the adult swim (except for the other Spumco shorts, too). By the way, was the guy with the white hair Captain Murphy from Sealab?

Grade: F (I can't believe I did that to an Adult Swim show)

HB: AAL: I love this episode. "BLACK VULCAN!""Hey! That's Super Vulcan!" That always cracks me up. So with the bear. This is a good episode, but this show needs to be taken off until new episodes.

Grade: A

Fell asleep after...

[Travis]

Home Movies - A
Oblongs - A-
Ripping Friends- Wasnt all that great. C-

[Shnay]

Man, this was a bad night for ASC. Though it seems my view on Home Movies is, once again, in the minority. I’m having flashbacks to the “Starboy and Captain of Outer Space” episode…anyway, here we go.

Home Movies, “Four’s Company”: Hoo, boy, I did not like this one. There were so many things in this episode that went against everything the series and characters are about. But, I always try to begin my reviews with the positives of the episode, so I suppose I’ll do the same this time. Unfortunately, the list of positives this time is rather limited.

The animation looks really great. Overall, I still prefer the Squigglevision, but this episode proves that these guys can do some excellent work in Flash. The opening movie (which I really didn’t like…but I’ll get to that later) looked incredible. On the characterization side of things, it was interesting (to a point) to see the loneliness and desperation of Erik and McGuirk. Having Erik be the only one to show up to McGuirk’s little “get together” was the one good thing character-wise that came out of this episode. And, finally, though it was a pretty small thing, I liked the scene where Brendon was doodling on his test paper, including a picture of him with huge muscles; that was pretty funny.

Now the negatives. Sigh…so many things wrong with this episode…

First off, the opening movie was everything that the movies shouldn’t be. I hate the fact that the movies keep getting more and more elaborate in terms of visuals. Melissa takes off a mask of her face to reveal a skull? What happened to that great, small-time, amateur charm? They’re eight year olds making movies in the basement, and it should look like that. It shouldn’t look like…well, like a fancy Flash animation. When their movies look over the top, it takes a great deal away from the series is all about. And, on the topic of bad movies, the “*****in’” in the Susan B. Anthony movie was completely out of character for all of them, especially Melissa.

The main plot, dealing with Octavio and Melissa, was awful. The idea of a fourth person interfering with movie making seemed recycled from the episode with Lani. The character of Octavio was boring and his plot was incredibly stupid and unbelievable. He’s trying to get into the movies of the “famous” Brendon Small? Give me a break. And I know he’s just a one-time character, but Lani was at least semi-interesting, while Octavio was as bland as they come. The plot didn’t feel thought out at all, and didn’t add anything to any characters or provide that much comedy (if any). It seemed to just be thrown in to fill time.

The other plot is McGuirk’s attempts to get everyone together. Now, this started out pretty well, but dragged on and on until it just got irritating. The first scene in the grocery store between Paula, Lynch, McGuirk, and Erik was great. The three guys all have the same corny sense of humor, and crack each other up while Paula tries desperately to squirm away. That scene was great; it went on a bit long, but that’s certainly forgivable. But then this plot with McGuirk just continues on and on until the once-funny situation turns irritating. Sure, the conclusion to all this, with Erik being the only one showing up, was great, and was probably the best thing to come from the episode. But the amount of time they spent building up that scene was far to long for a short scene at the end.

And, last but not least, the characterization we do get, I don’t like. Why, oh why, did Jason have to talk about dreams of marrying Melissa? I don’t want to see some typical, cliché “love-hate” relationship develop. Can’t their personalities just clash without adding “blossoming romantic feelings”? I thought this, like the country club episode, does more bad than good to developing Jason’s character.

Now, I know that this is “just a TV show” and that’s it’s not meant to be analyzed or looked at this in depth. I realize that. But the reason I write this much (and, sometimes, complain this much) is that I really love this show, and I get upset when they do something that I don’t think is for the best. Anyway, just my thoughts.

Sigh…moving on.

The Oblongs, “My Name is Robbie”: Well, the first half of this episode was actually pretty funny. With the politically incorrect “It’s a Third World” song, and the lame, but still rather funny, “We’re prepared to offer you a very large check,” I was enjoying this episode. But after the first ten minutes, the show got too focused on Bob’s body and the show seemed to really drag on without too much comedy. It could have really used a good subplot to break up the pretty weak story of Bob’s robo-body.

Ripping Friends, “The Indigestible Wad”: Oh, man…I don’t want to insult the opinion of anyone who like it, but….man. That was the longest half hour of TV I’ve ever watched. I really don’t know what this is doing on Adult Swim. Perhaps because the “uncut” version allows the artists true vision to be realized? I don’t know. In the words of another famous John K. character, “No, sir…I don’t like it.”

Harvey Birdman: AAL, “Very Personal Injury”: I only thought this was okay when it first aired. And, with every additional airing, it keeps losing all the things I liked about it to begin with. If they’re going to keep the WS repeats coming for now, I’d rather see repeats of Sealab or ATHF which at least have some more episodes than HB.

Sealab 2021, “Radio Free Sealab”: I’ve probably reviewed this one a number of times, so I’m really running out of things to say. Fignuts, Sparkplug, the ultimate zing: it’s all classic Sealab.

Aqua Teen Hunger Force, “Ol’ Drippy”: I don’t really like the newer ATHF as much as the older ones, but this one stands up as a classic along with any of the early episodes. It’s funny all the way through, and watching Meatwad finally get to turn the tables on Shake and chase him out of the house is great. So tragic about Ol’ Drippy, though…he will be remembered. :D :rolleyes:

The Brak Show, “The Eye”: I’ve said it before, and it looks like I’ll be saying it again. This was right around when the Brak Show lost any of the humor it once had, and became amusing at best. So, in short, I didn’t really like this one.

Space Ghost: C2C, “Banjo”: Ah, and Space Ghost shall reward the faithful. The classic “Banjo.” Great opening moments with Zorak and Moltar, good guests and…well killer Sea Monkeys. What else can you ask for?

Space Ghost: C2C, “Self Help”: Another classic. I loved the continuing locust/mantis thing, Dr. Brothers “analysis,” and Zorak’s questions when he can’t understand her. All good stuff. Ah, Space Ghost. What a show.

So, uhh…there you have it. That was a long one, even for me. Sorry about rambling on.

[Beat]

Originally posted by KingKoopa
I now have an opinion about the Ripping Friends. It's worse than Oblongs, Pilot Candidate, Baby Blues, the Xbox, and the moron who deleted the ASA openings combined.

Damn!

[Killtacular]

First off, the opening movie was everything that the movies shouldn’t be. I hate the fact that the movies keep getting more and more elaborate in terms of visuals. Melissa takes off a mask of her face to reveal a skull? What happened to that great, small-time, amateur charm? They’re eight year olds making movies in the basement, and it should look like that. It shouldn’t look like…well, like a fancy Flash animation.

Why not? Brendon gets new filmmaking equipment because Paula keeps buying it for him, as that's all that makes him happy. If there was never any evolution to his directing, what would the point be?

He's simply getting more confident and more props and such. He has digital video editting hardware, as early as the season 2 episode "History."

Hell, if you think about it, they teach Flash in elementary school.


When their movies look over the top, it takes a great deal away from the series is all about. And, on the topic of bad movies, the “*****in’” in the Susan B. Anthony movie was completely out of character for all of them, especially Melissa.

I have to disagree. That's definitely Melissa's character.

The character of Octavio was boring and his plot was incredibly stupid and unbelievable. He’s trying to get into the movies of the “famous” Brendon Small? Give me a break.

Dude, if I was in 4th grade and knew someone that made movies of that quality, I'D want to be in them.

But then this plot with McGuirk just continues on and on until the once-funny situation turns irritating.

I only think it got irritating in the scene with Erik in the kitchen. The rest of the scenes were pretty funny.

And, last but not least, the characterization we do get, I don’t like. Why, oh why, did Jason have to talk about dreams of marrying Melissa? I don’t want to see some typical, cliché “love-hate” relationship develop.

I believe it was SUPPOSED to be unexpected. And then when Melissa comes back and says hi to the two, Jason blows her off and says "Whatever." I thought that was funny, myself.

[Sandoz]

The Ripping Friends was really unfunny. It wasn't terrible, it was just...there. I didn't crack a smile at all. That's all I can really say about it. :p

[Curt]

Home Movies: Didn't watch.

Oblongs: Funny, but not as funny as others. I did like that song Bob played on the guitar, though. :p B+

Ripping Friends: Ugh... just... ugh... D-

Harvey Birdman: This has to be my favorite HB episode of all time. "Do you think I named MYSELF 'Black Vulcan'? Hell no! I used to go by 'Supervolt'! 'Black Vulcan' was Aquaman's idea! So I told him 'Why don't we just call you 'White Fish'?!" :p A

Sealab: I've never seen this episode before, actually. Pretty funny. A

Aqua Teen: Liked it, but Shake was bein' an ass, though. B

Brak Show: Haven't seen this one before either. This was also an okay episode. B

Space Ghost: "BANJOOOOOOOOOOO!!!" A+

[AngryDrunkGnome]

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First off, the opening movie was everything that the movies shouldn’t be. I hate the fact that the movies keep getting more and more elaborate in terms of visuals. Melissa takes off a mask of her face to reveal a skull? What happened to that great, small-time, amateur charm? They’re eight year olds making movies in the basement, and it should look like that. It shouldn’t look like…well, like a fancy Flash animation.
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Well, why not? B-rated horror flicks are the cheapest and easiest movies to create in all of movie history (next to porno, that is). There are numerous books out there, telling you horror film tricks and horror make-up and such, it's really plausible that Brendon can pull a movie like that... except maybe the thousands of worms crawling on the floor... or maybe one rainy night, they went out and collected worms??? this kid is very passionate about movies you know... the best horror movies ever made never required computerized CG. and if Melissa didn't pull her head off... now that just woundn't make a good horror movie, now would it???

And I like to think that starting when Brendon met his rich lawyer father, he's been funding a lot of his movies, so the quality of his movies has been going on the up and up since then. Why wouldn't a rich lawyer father, guilt ridden of not spending enough time with his only son, not invest in his son's dreams of making it big in hollywood?

[Nik Jam]

Home Movies - Funny. The Grocery Store scene was hilarious. - A

Oblongs - One of the better episodes. The ending seemed out of place though. (But I guess that was the point) - A-

Ripping Friends - Very Interesting. Ill be looking forward for more episodes. But this one was interesting in the non-bad non-good way, I have no opinion on it. The "Pain Machine" scene was funny though. - (NO GRADE)

Birdman - Ah, just the episode I wanted to see. Has lots of memorable stuff. I wish the new episodes would arrive. I guess that's the point of Winter. - A

Sealab - Another episode I missed. (miss, as in, I want to see it again, I saw it when it premiered as well as every other time) Murphy's Radio was hilarious. Again, I wish the new episodes would arrive. - A-

Aqua Teen Hunger Force - Good episode. Has some funny lines, but not one of my favirotes. Yes. I think you know what I want. B+

Brak Show - The ending is good. The rest is eh. Can't help but feel sorry for Zorak. MUST WATCH NEW EPISODES. B

Space Ghost Coast to Coast - Banjo - Weird Al RULES, nuff said. A
The other one I dont remember the name - Didn't really follow, except the ending. And some of the other stuff, good nonetheless - B

[JTurner954]

Very interesting. A lot of people liked the pain machine at the end and hated the show, yet I liked the show and hated the pain machine sequence. VERY interesting.

[dino boy]

A pretty bad night...

Home Movies: probably my least favorite episode of the show. I just think none of the plots worked particularly well, and though I like McGuirk and Erik, they just didn't seem to be funny in this episode. I agree with the poster who said that the movies are getting too well-produced. I thought the movies were a lot funnier when they looked more amateur (dark side of the law, etc.). I think it could be kind of cool if the movies slowly got better throughout the run of the show, but if that was their plan, they did it way too quick. Anyway, I agree with that poster that the show keeps going farther away from what I like about it. That's just my opinion.

Oblongs: didn't watch.

Ripping Friends: I said what I thought about the show in the Ripping Friends thread, so I won't repeat it here.

HB: I think this is the best episode, but I've seen it way too many times. I will say, though, that I think this episode holds up to repeat viewings better than the others.

ATHF: My favorite episode. Shake is just non-stop funny in this episode - it has my favorite Shake, Carl, and Meatwad lines in it. I just think this episode comes together the best out of all the episodes. Although I like other characters that they have brought in (mooninites, mothmonsterman), I feel like those episodes were funny because of those characters, rather than the aqua teens.

Sealab: I didn't like this episode. I HATE it when a show does the swearing/bleeping joke. It is just so overdone that there is no possible way to make it funny anymore. Furthermore, it was done in the worst context - they said something like "We're here to prevent pirated radio and to eliminate swearing" and then they started swearing. I hate it when a tv show, movie, etc. has the characters say "It's wrong to do (blank)" and then they immediately do that themselves. It's so overdone, and not funny. It's very similar to when a character says "it can't get any worse than this!" and then it does, and when a character says "I'm not going to (blank)" and then it cuts to a shot of them doing exactly that.

Brak: meh, it was good, but not great. Meatwad's voice was funny.

SGC2C: Banjo was great, my cable went out on the second one.

[Shnay]

Why not? Brendon gets new filmmaking equipment because Paula keeps buying it for him, as that's all that makes him happy. If there was never any evolution to his directing, what would the point be?

Well, for me, therein lies the problem. I liked it when Paula and their family were struggling to get by. When a fish eye lens was a unnatainable dream, rather than something we'd just assume he'd have by now. Does Paula even have a job? I think their family was a lot more interesting when pipes were exploding and ice cream had to be given back than when it's assumed that they can afford various film equipment.

I've said before that I really don't like the fact that he has the editing machine. I think, while it certainly could be argued that that would be the natural evolution of his filmmaking, it makes the movies feel too profesional. Now, I understand these movies are far from "professional" but I'd rather see Brendon brainstorming ideas in the sandbox than see him take a clipboard and go over stacks of tapes on his editing machine.

And, I'd think, the "evolution" of his filmmaking would take him more towards the type of movies he showed to his acting teacher in the first season than towards big, over the top productions.

I have to disagree. That's definitely Melissa's character.

Well...then I suppose we disagree.

I only think it got irritating in the scene with Erik in the kitchen. The rest of the scenes were pretty funny.

What about the scene where McGuirk was juggling a few calls on different lines? The one where Paula is in bed trying to sleep? I dunno...I just thought that one (and the one you mentioned) felt like they were trying to make a lot out of something that wasn't all that interesting to begin with.

I believe it was SUPPOSED to be unexpected. And then when Melissa comes back and says hi to the two, Jason blows her off and says "Whatever." I thought that was funny, myself.

I'd agree it was funny. Jason and Melissa are great characters, and the voice actors did that scene expertly. It was good. But, in the long run, I don't want to see any stories adding to this relationship aspect. I really hope they just leave it at that and don't try to make, as I said before, a "love-hate" relationship.

And I like to think that starting when Brendon met his rich lawyer father, he's been funding a lot of his movies, so the quality of his movies has been going on the up and up since then.

That's certainly plausible, but I'd be more willing to believe it if they showed his father at all recently. But, if they're not even going to show him to us, then I have a hard time believing he's doin anything with Brendon, let alone giving him lots of money.

So, anyway, those are my opinions.

[Killtacular]

Perhaps the voice actor for Andrew wasn't available at the time. Same reason as why you only see Erik in one season 2 episode.

[Shnay]

Originally posted by Matt Wilson
Perhaps the voice actor for Andrew wasn't available at the time. Same reason as why you only see Erik in one season 2 episode.

Is that true about Erik? Huh...I never knew that. Thanks for the info.

Ooh! And maybe the voice actor for Josie...well, nevermind. ;)

[Idioteque]

Home Movies: Overall the episode seemed a bit different in tone from the others, but I still enjoyed it quite a bit. The highlight was certainly McGuirk being sooo damn lonely. Also notable was the "B is for *****in'" ending.

My grade: Whoo.

Oblongs: Skipped past it on my TiVo to get to Ripping Friends (don't ask me why).. I'll be back with my Oblongs review.

The Ripping Friends: Man. Not very funny at all... what happened, John K? The only part I found truly funny was at the end with the news guy, when it randomly zoomed into his eyes and a fart noise was played. Yeah yeah I know, fart jokes are childish and all that crap, but that was just so amazingly random I couldn't help but laugh. Still, bad show. I'm hoping the AS-made episodes will be a lot better.

My grade: Bah.

I want Mission Hill back. Why did they order a second season of Ripping Friends and not Mission Hill? WHY?!

[SirLemming]

The staring contest at the end of "The Eye" was probably The Brak Show's greatest scene -- especially the first time around. I laughed REALLY hard. Kinda like "Flipmode" (SGC2C).

Space Ghost: Coast to Coast
I remember seeing this episode once during the random-order airings, and it didn't seem out of place at all. Obviously, this is where the series got really good. I love Schooly D's inspirational words... My dad put it well when he said Weird Al was too "on" -- it was kind of annoying how he was trying to be funny. It's like randomness cancels out randomness. It's funnier when the guests are totally baffled. Nevertheless, in the end, the guests don't REALLY matter.
As for the other episode, it was very good, but I just don't have anything specific to say about it.

[bartman454]

Hmm interesting night of ASC, here is my semi review of the night.


Home Movies: Didn't watch, watching browns vs ravens game.

Oblongs: Very funny episode tons of classic moments the big check, "It's a third world after all" which rivals the duff beer ride for best small world parody, Also the shark was hysterical but lets hope Spielberg doesnt start thinking Jaws 5: On the Loose

"He's out of the water and he's pissed"

Ripping Friends: Interesting show, i've always liked John K's animation style but his storytelling needs work. Oh and did you know that the gum is "THE INDEGESTIBLE WAD!" i mean geeze how many times did that thing say that. An okay show but not really an adult swim show.


Harvey Birdman: Seen it a few times, funny but its starting to get a bit old i mean jesus run some new episodes you freakin bastards

ATHF-SGC2C didnt catch em, i gotta be in just the right mood to watch those shows and i wasnt. thats it for now.

[AngryDrunkGnome]

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Why not? Brendon gets new filmmaking equipment because Paula keeps buying it for him, as that's all that makes him happy. If there was never any evolution to his directing, what would the point be?
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Well, with the revolution of Digital Video and Computer video editing equiptment, old linear editing machines are getting cheaper and cheaper. Video editing companies everywhere are selling off their old equiptment as we read this. Saw some old VHS editing decks selling on ebay for $12... and an editing controller for $42.

And a video editing system is really just two vcrs connected to an edit controller... and you can do some video editing with just two vcrs (or a camera and a VCR), and some good old planning and quick finger pressing on a remote control. Try read Robert Rodriguez's "Man without a Crew" (director of "El Mariachi", "From Dusk till Dawn", and "Spy Kids"), and you'll see how to do video editing cheap and easy with just a little ingenuity.... and a bit of cheap labor. Hell, Speilberg did it when he was a kid, and he did it using film... video is cheaper and easier to use.

[Cogliostro]

I only seen Home Movies this week.

This episode was great. It was very funny from the beginning where Brendon's video scares everyone including Mr.Linch to the end where McGuirk walks out on Erik. I didn't mind seeing the movies Brendon makes improved visually, although I hope it doesn't stay like that forever. This doesn't ruin the show the characters and their interactions make the show and the comedy. This is one of my favorite Home Movies episodes and next week's preview looks like its going to be another great episode. So far this new season is looking great. I hope this isn't the last. A piece of advice for some fans, stop looking so deep into the show and just enjoy it...

[Shnay]

Originally posted by Cogliostro
A piece of advice for some fans, stop looking so deep into the show and just enjoy it...

Yeah, I figured I was gonna get this. I usually do. I said in my original post that I realized that I was making a big deal over what could be considered small points. I know it's just a show, and it's meant to be enjoyed, not analyzed. I realize all that. However, what I love about the show is that, at it's best, it can be discussed in depth.

The reason I occassionally criticize like this is not because I just love to complain, or because I think the show is stupid. I do it because, as I said in the post, really love the show, and am dissappointed when there are episodes that do something that I don't think is best for the show, whether it's moving things in a different direction or characterizing the people in a different way.

Perhaps I'm wrong. Perhaps I'm just some whiny, over-analytical dork who loves complaining about simple TV shows that were only meant to entertain. That's quite possible. But I hope that's not the case. So thanks for the advice, but I think I'll continue to think about the show the way I like to.

[JDuncan]

I agree with you Shnay, but look on the bright side, at least there weren't any exploding buildings.

[Shnay]

I'm guessing that's a reference to "Shore Leave." Unfortunately (very unfortunately, for me) I wasn't able to catch that one. If it's not, then...just ignore this.

[Thundercleese]

"I've been calling him(Octabio) October behind his back"


^^That line had me rolling on the floor for at least 5 minutes, and im SERIOUS

[dino boy]

The only line that made me laugh in this episode was "I also do magic. Poof."

[geraldorivera]

I was dissapointed to see that they're no longer airing the Juicy Fruit commercials... not.

Home Movies-- I usually don't like this show, but this episode was all right. Brendon drawing ****ty pictures on his test of the French kid was funny, and it was even funnier when he said he lost his test. The part where McGuirk yelled out "adult diapers" in the grocery store also made me chuckle.

The Oblongs-- Thank god for this show! It disgusted my mother for some reason and she left my house... yeehaw! This episode was okay, as well. Still, though, the only thing that seems adult about it is how horny Bob Oblong and his old lady are.

Harvey Birdman-- My favorite episode. CN can play this one over and over for all I care. That whole Muticultural superheros thing at the end was a crackup.

Sealab 2021-- For some reason, this episode slipped by me. There hasn't been a bad episode, to me. This one's right up there with the rest of 'em.

Ripping Friends-- This show was a piece of dogcrap that has already disintegrated into fine, white powder. To me, Ren and Stimpy was more adult than this lame 'toon. The drawings were purdy, but the story line was absolute... well, I won't say. Where do they get this "Uncut" crap in the preview from? Maybe they should have left it un-uncut and spared us the horror. I thought Ripping Friends was going to be killer, but instead, I was let down. Hell, even the Oblongs were better.

ATHF-- Poor Ol' Drippy got smashed by a semi grill :( Shake, that mean jerk. Meatwad's toys were cute. I like this episode. Especially the beginning in Dr. Weird's lab where he says "Gentlemen" and his asst. calls him out on it, being that he's the only one there.

The Brak Show-- I once said that I liked every Brak episode, but I guess I lied. "The Eye" character is too creepy for me and reminds me of a reoccuring nightmare I used to have as a little kid. However, the wasps on Zorak's eyes was somethin' else. I couldn't imagine that happening to me. Good thing I'm not a mantis.

SGC2C-- Both of them were great. I can watch Banjo over and over again. Plus, Weird Al. 'Nuff said. Can't leave out Schooly D, either.

[Ramso]

Originally posted by Thundercleese
"I've been calling him(Octabio) October behind his back"


^^That line had me rolling on the floor for at least 5 minutes, and im SERIOUS

Jeez, don't be so immature...

[Clank]

I just don't understand how anyone could enjoy HM. Between the pathetic drawings and lame writing, it makes want to dig out mom's white hot knitting needles and stir out my eyes.
Watching this show is the equivalent of walking around a bus station to seek out the most boring backward ass person I can find, and asking them to fill me in on their life story.
Oh and the voice work if you can call it that, is mono-toned, flat and sounds like someone sitting alone in their house trying their damnedest to be creative, but falling well short of their goal.

Harvey Birdman is barely watchable. It has the worst kind of "writer" timing
that I've ever seen. Its rushed where it shouldn't be, and full of pregnant "aren't we cute, to put a pause in where it makes no sense. Hee Hee that'll have them scratching their heads " pauses.
Why its slotted in something called "Adult" leaves one wondering.
Vague gay innuendo is hardly worth labeling as adult.
Death by Chocolat seemed to have been super sanitized for its "Adult" audience. Either do a show based on the Unabomber, or don't.
This entire block of shows is so, Lets pretend we're 'Adult' that it makes my head hurt.

Im not even going to start on the subject that most of the "popular" shows in this block, are Anti-mation. That if you continue to settle for this non art, you help to slowly but surely drive stake through the heart of any actual animation being produced.
Why should we do anything good? They're gobbling down this manure, "These near polished turds" like they're candy.

[Joe Tully]

Originally posted by Clank
I just don't understand how anyone could enjoy HM.

It probably involves having a sense of humor.

[Killtacular]

Oh, great.

Before I label you as having a "porno and South Park are the only adult forms of animation" mindset, please be encouraged to tell us what shows you think ARE adult and mature.

And the key word is "mature".

[AngryDrunkGnome]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Clank
[B]I just don't understand how anyone could enjoy HM. Between the pathetic drawings and lame writing, it makes want to dig out mom's white hot knitting needles and stir out my eyes.
Watching this show is the equivalent of walking around a bus station to seek out the most boring backward ass person I can find, and asking them to fill me in on their life story.
Oh and the voice work if you can call it that, is mono-toned, flat and sounds like someone sitting alone in their house trying their damnedest to be creative, but falling well short of their goal.
QUOTE]

Wow... quite some passionate writing there... "white hot knitting needles and stir out my eyes"... I LOVE IT. You should write movie reviews. Now those are the kinda memorable critic quote I want if I ever make a movie! "Two thumbs down" or "2 and a half stars" just don't cut it for me anymore after reading your review.

But I like Home Movies. Home Movies make me wanna get a rusty X-acto knife, and slice my eyelids off so I may never blink again, and just watch Home Movies until my eyes dry up into crusty boiled egg yolks and house flies are pooping their larve into my corneas. Watching this show is equivalent to going to bus stations and telling people my life story, and following them to their far away destinations, to continually tell them my how my parents hate me and wished I was a girl instead. And the sound work of Home Movies makes me want to write my own crappy uncreative stories and sell it to Hollywood for millions of dollars, which I would piss away on scratch tickets and hookers. Wooooheee...

[Shnay]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't Clank's comments count as trolling? Now I'm certainly not expecting everyone to have the same opinions or like every show. But by coming here just to say how incredibly wretched all the shows are seems like the definition of a forum "troll."

[Killtacular]

I don't consider him a troll, unless he starts attacking people for their opinions. So far he's the odd man out, so I don't think it really matters.

If he doesn't like Adult Swim Comedy, maybe he likes Adult Swim Action. And if he doesn't like either, then he shouldn't post here, but we shouldn't discourage him from posting at Toon Zone in general.

I only get concerned when people GANG UP on a person's opinion. Now, obviously, in this case, I don't think anyone's in the wrong for not thinking highly of Clank's thoughts, since they are so scathing and meant to discourage people. But something like the thread a lone man started saying he actually liked Ripping Friends, only to get 40-50 some replies saying "IT SUCKS", only in a far nastier tone, I get upset about. Such negativity would deserve its own thread, and let the small handful of praisers praise without being embarassed.

[Clank]

No it doesn't have to be the old "in out in out"for me to consider it adult.
But when a network chooses to soft pedal or out right back pedal on subjects like the Unabomber episode of HBAAL then yes, I think we're being served up "adult lite". These are subjects that any prime time live action show could cover without so much as a raised eyebrow. Last I checked Adult swim airs well after prime time yet they are still being hammered with more limitations than network programming.

I'm not trolling, i'm not trying to start an argument. I was simply putting in my two cents, as I see it.

As for as the quality of the shows goes, I don't expect every show to be a gem, but I'd like to think that the network wasn't just trying to do everything as cheaply as they get away with. Unfortunately that is pretty much what they are doing with this block. I think its a shame. If they put half the money into the production values of Adult swim as they do their regular shows it would be something to see.

I don't think my statements were any more harsh than some of the ones that have been doled out here on "The oblongs, Mission Hill, Ripping friends," and several others.

Poorly drawn shows don't appeal to me. Expressionless faces and flapping mouths aren't my cup 'o tea, and yes poor timing gets under my skin.
I think it sets the industry back to settle for less.

[AngryDrunkGnome]

Originally posted by Clank
No it doesn't have to be the old "in out in out"for me to consider it adult.
But when a network chooses to soft pedal or out right back pedal on subjects like the Unabomber episode of HBAAL then yes, I think we're being served up "adult lite". These are subjects that any prime time live action show could cover without so much as a raised eyebrow. Last I checked Adult swim airs well after prime time yet they are still being hammered with more limitations than network programming.


Clank has a point on the "adult lite" issue. The Oblongs original creator illustrated books where mutant deformed children suffered grisley deaths at the hands of more privileged folk... and we just know we are not going to see that on Cartoon Network. But then again, shows with Unabombers, child killers, and sick and twisted shock cartoons etc etc, they usually get an audience of angry chuckling teenagers and drunk n horney college kids, not adults. As you get older, you actually get bored of that rebellious crap, and start to enjoy watching CBS sitcoms and the Discovery Channel. You know, that's why we saw Baby Blues pop up on Adult Swim.

They really must try to clearly define what "adult" content is. It can mean violent, drugged up, disturbing, sexual content. Or it could mean, only things adults will watch... like Opera or the Golden Girls. And there's just straight up Porn. I sorta work on "adult cartoons" and I always loose my breath with a long ass explanation to my grand parents that I don't work in the porn business.

[Shnay]

Originally posted by Clank
I'm not trolling, i'm not trying to start an argument. I was simply putting in my two cents, as I see it.

Fair enough. The only reason I made that comment was because the previous post was all negative comments on a site where fans of the shows come to discuss them, and that could be considered trying to start an agruement. But, you came back to defend the statements and tried to get a discussion going, which is fine.

As for the other points, I don't think anyone would disagree that most of AS shows have cheap production values. However, I think many of us would disagree that this makes them any less comic or clever. I can understand that these kind of shows don't appeal to everyone (you really can't expect them too) but there are obviously enough fans to validate the shows existence.

You said that you thought other shows would attempt to copy the cheap production values since they see that the audiences will accept such standards on AS. I really don't see that happening. For one thing, I'm sure there are many, like yourself, who would be very turned off by cheap looking shows. I'd say the audience of AS still is pretty much in the minority as far as public opinion on animation goes. I wouldn't expect any company that actually has the money to create "detailed" animation would take the chance of following the AS example by going minimalistic.

And finally, the shows with the lower production value are entertaining (to many of us) because they're funny and well written. In a show about talking food, highly detailed animation really isn't neccessary. Most of these shows have dialogue based humor, making the visual making the visual aspect of the show much less important. To many people, that may be a large deterant, but I think many of us here really don't mind at all, and it's not just because we're willing to "gobble down manure." But rather, it's because we like and appreciate the humor enough to realize that, in these particular shows, the animation doesn't play nearly as large a role as it does in more traditional cartoons.

Also, though I certainly respect your right to express your opinion, I'd say that the original comments may have been a bit more harsh than most of the other comments. Not too many people have mentioned self inflicted bodily harm.

[AngryDrunkGnome]

Originally posted by Shnay

And finally, the shows with the lower production value are entertaining (to many of us) because they're funny and well written. In a show about talking food, highly detailed animation really isn't neccessary. Most of these shows have dialogue based humor, making the visual making the visual aspect of the show much less important.

If all these adult cartoons are dialogue based and visuals aren't important, then why choose the medium of animation then? Why not just make it live action or a radio show? Or a muppet show like Crank Gankers? Or still picture storytelling (like we saw in Reading Rainbow long time ago).

Well... if you actually saw that live action short on adult swim with all of the Space Ghost voice actors, I understand why everything is hidden under a layer of crappy animation. Animation gives ugly people, bad actors, and cheap bastards the only chance to work in show business without having to get any real skills, talent, or renting expensive film equiptment.

[JDuncan]

Did you just say that the Williams Street team had no talent? It's animated partly because it's on cartoon network.

[Shnay]

Originally posted by AngryDrunkGnome
Well... if you actually saw that live action short on adult swim with all of the Space Ghost voice actors, I understand why everything is hidden under a layer of crappy animation. Animation gives ugly people, bad actors, and cheap bastards the only chance to work in show business without having to get any real skills, talent, or renting expensive film equiptment.

You know, maybe some people who find the shows to be so incredibly awful should, oh, I don't know, change the channel? It's a much more practical solution than eye gouging.

This way, those of us who enjoy bad acting and the crappy animation of cheap bastards can continue to enjoy the shows and others can enjoy some other program which meets their standards.

[Joe Tully]

Originally posted by AngryDrunkGnome


Well... if you actually saw that live action short on adult swim with all of the Space Ghost voice actors, I understand why everything is hidden under a layer of crappy animation. Animation gives ugly people, bad actors, and cheap bastards the only chance to work in show business without having to get any real skills, talent, or renting expensive film equiptment.

I hope you never have to hear what George Lowe says about you behind your back.

It's all very whiny...uh, I mean, subject to personal opinion. If there was no talent behind SGC2C whatsoever, I doubt that it would've gained the level of popularity that it did. Sure, it's not huge, but the amount of merchandise in the form of T-shirts, CDs, action figures, etc., makes it obvious that it's more than just an obscure show that airs late Sunday night.

[JTurner954]

Plus it made it on that list of great animated characters that TV Guide had over a month ago.