Why is Popeye listed as part of AS?

[stanteau]

Just asking

[meatwad945]

i was wondering that too :confused:

[Killtacular]

Perhaps you haven't noticed, but it's always been listed in the schedule. I'm keeping people aware of its new timeslot.

And, The Popeye Show is for adults. This is proven. This is fact. This is declarative statement.


On that note, I don't include Late Night Black & White(which will be in Popeye's old slot), simply because they don't have old or new episodes, it's completely random. Popeye DOES have new stuff and thus should be highlighted.

[Zulu]

my understanding of this show (not having seen it, based upon what CN text descriptions claim I could be sorely mistaken) is mearly a pop-up video meets popeye hybrid. I understand that it does have new elements (ie. pop up text and relevent commentary), but the original popeye series just didn't seem all that adult to me. Is this traditional popeye for the AS block with new twists (again, having never seen the show I am ignorant to its new nature)?

Not trying to cause a fuss, mearly seeking enlightenment. Thanks

[Jimmy Kustes]

I also include Bats and Supes with my ASA schedule.

[Nik Jam]

Late Night Black and White is back? Now all we need is O Canada back (unless it already is/will be and I dont know about it)

[Killtacular]

my understanding of this show (not having seen it, based upon what CN text descriptions claim I could be sorely mistaken) is mearly a pop-up video meets popeye hybrid. I understand that it does have new elements (ie. pop up text and relevent commentary), but the original popeye series just didn't seem all that adult to me. Is this traditional popeye for the AS block with new twists (again, having never seen the show I am ignorant to its new nature)?

There is no pop-up text during the toons.


When Turner brought the Popeye library years back, they went through the whole lot and editted them down hideously. I'm not talking seconds, I mean minutes, folks. Many toons were not broadcast at all, due to their violent nature. There's beer drinking, smoking, rascism, and other things that have kept them from airing. They also messed up the title cards, made crappy computer colorizations of several toons, and other nonsense. The Popeye Show fixes all of this by restoring the cartoons with all of their footage intact, in their original black and white format with the original title cards. It's aimed mostly at adults and anyone that enjoys classic animation (which is, again, mainly adults).

They ARE adult and ARE FOR adults, regardless of their time period, as they were that way originally. You wouldn't consider Casablanca a toddler movie even though it's TV-G now, so don't just consider Popeye a kid's show either.

The only Popeye series that was for kids was the 80s cartoon "Popeye and Son" which aired on the USA Network.. it was pretty stupid.

[King Yertle]

Popeye isn't part of Adult Swim. It's pretty safe to assume that if Popeye were part of Adult Swim, that he'd be on the adultswim.com schedule or show list, which he isn't. He does however have a spot on the regular cartoonnetwork.com site, right between Peter Potamus and the Powerpuff Girls.

And while it can be argued that the Popeye Show is intended for adults, simply because it's on at 1 A.M. (followed by Huckleberry Hound and Yogi Bear, two other fine adult shows), the original Popeye cartoons were clearly intended for children and families, and not an exclusively adult audience.

[Zulu]

Thanks for the info. I was not aware of the restrictions placed upon the original cartoon. Guess I only saw the edited versions in the past, these un-cut episodes should provide for rather good entertainment as well as providing insight into censorship. Your point of Casablanca is well taken. I agree that ratings don't neccesarily equate content (ie. my previous post about Exo Squad and possible ASA use... unfortunatly it wasn't very popular, though I can see the greater point against it).

[Jimmy Kustes]

Originally posted by NikJam
Late Night Black and White is back? Now all we need is O Canada back (unless it already is/will be and I dont know about it)

I agree. Also Sailor Moon, GI Joe, and Batman Beyond are gone.

[Jimmy Kustes]

Originally posted by Matt Wilson



The only Popeye series that was for kids was the 80s cartoon "Popeye and Son" which aired on the USA Network.. it was pretty stupid.

That show was the awesome, I watched it as a kid. Also I had great taste in cartoons back then. I watched such programs as Captain Planet and Tom & Jerry Kids.

[i miss katy]

Originally posted by Jimmy Kustes


I agree. Also Sailor Moon, GI Joe, and Batman Beyond are gone.

G.I. Joe is on, they just started airing it in July. It's on 1:00 am weeknights.

[Killtacular]

He means that in the fall it will be gone.

[SpaceCowboy]

I'm glad that they are atleast restoring the classic Popeye cartoons and giving them the treatment of a classic cartoon that it deserves. 'Wished Disney would do this to their Silly Simphonies. Thanks for the info, Matt.

[King Yertle]

Originally posted by SpaceCowboy
I'm glad that they are atleast restoring the classic Popeye cartoons and giving them the treatment of a classic cartoon that it deserves. 'Wished Disney would do this to their Silly Simphonies.
Sounds like you're unfamiliar with the Disney Channel's Ink and Paint Club, the show that demonstrates just how boring most of those old Disney cartoons are.

[Joe Tully]

Originally posted by King Yertle

Sounds like you're unfamiliar with the Disney Channel's Ink and Paint Club, the show that demonstrates just how boring most of those old Disney cartoons are.

Yeah, but it's on at like 4 AM.

But Disney seems to be on the right track with its DVD releases. They're supposed to be coming out with a Wartime Cartoons set that should be interesting, and they've got a Silly Symphonies set out there already.

[King Yertle]

Originally posted by Joe Tully
Yeah, but it's on at like 4 AM.
Behold a miraculous new invention: the VCR

[Joe Tully]

Originally posted by King Yertle

Behold a miraculous new invention: the VCR

No kidding.

The point is, airing it at 4 AM isn't exactly what fans would call respectful of the series or giving it the treatment that it deserves.

[meatwad945]

Originally posted by Joe Tully


Yeah, but it's on at like 4 AM.


ive seen it on at like six

[SpaceCowboy]

Originally posted by Joe Tully


Yeah, but it's on at like 4 AM.

But Disney seems to be on the right track with its DVD releases. They're supposed to be coming out with a Wartime Cartoons set that should be interesting, and they've got a Silly Symphonies set out there already.

Really? From what I've heard, all of the shorts on their DVDs are just as cut and heavily censored as they have been for years on TV. Too bad those "Disney Gold Collection" VHS with the uncut shorts have been out of print since the '80s. ::sigh::

[cronomorph]

Actually, the Silly Symphonies DVD is entirely unedited except for ONE cartoon. It is a Three Little Pigs cartoon, and a scene in which the Big Bad Wolf tries to get into the pigs house dressed as a rabbi had been changed. Apparently you can see part of the original animation in an interview clip on the DVD.

Is this editing wrong? NO. Why? Because Walt Disney himself called for the change shortly after the release of the cartoon. Because the creator called for it, this editing is totally appropriate.

[SpaceCowboy]

Originally posted by cronomorph
Actually, the Silly Symphonies DVD is entirely unedited except for ONE cartoon. It is a Three Little Pigs cartoon, and a scene in which the Big Bad Wolf tries to get into the pigs house dressed as a rabbi had been changed. Apparently you can see part of the original animation in an interview clip on the DVD.

Is this editing wrong? NO. Why? Because Walt Disney himself called for the change shortly after the release of the cartoon. Because the creator called for it, this editing is totally appropriate.

If it was edited over 60 years ago, then why did the scene end up intact on the Disney Gold Collection VHS tape released back in the '80s? I clearly remember seeing the Jewish peddler scene on that tape.

[Joe Tully]

Originally posted by SpaceCowboy


If it was edited over 60 years ago, then why did the scene end up intact on the Disney Gold Collection VHS tape released back in the '80s? I clearly remember seeing the Jewish peddler scene on that tape.

There's two versions, one from before Disney called for the edit, and one for after the edit was made. The edit was made for the rerelease of the cartoon in theaters.

Maltin does show a brief clip of the peddler scene before the cartoon on the DVD.

You might want to check out this thread (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13870) for info about the already-released DVDs. The only really edited cartoon on either of the sets is Clock Cleaners on the Mickey Mouse one.

If you want to talk about the DVDs some more, shoot me a PM or try posting at the TTTP (http://forums.toonzone.net/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=6) if you want. This thread's getting just a little bit OT. :)