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Nin-Nin69

07-01-2002, 07:16 PM

I hope they do a Aqua Teen Hunger Force commercial.

Meatwad <wearing Mojo Jojo's Helmit and Cape> - Did you get the tickets Shake?

Master Shake- Actually I gave all of your money to Ignignokt and Err to get some 44oz bottles of Nyquill for their colds.

Frylock-You actually believed that story?

Master Shake- Of course! The moon is full of unknown parasites that they can't protect themselves against! They just needed to restock their medicine cabinet. No harm done there.

Meatwad- But what about my money?

Master Shake- Why didn't you just marry your money if ya loved so dam much?! Besides you don't have any legs to wear pants to
hold your money in because your a rotting ball of meat!

Meatwad- Now how are we supose to see the movie?

Master Shake- Simple. I'll sneak in the back door and tape it for you guys with this new camera I got.

Carl - What happened to my fricken camera?!

<Cuts to movie logo>

Steve- Watch the Powerpuff Girls Movie on July 3rd in theaters everywhere!

Xevo

07-01-2002, 08:44 PM

Toonami Digital Arsenal has like 32 clips for d/l, including the Braks and SG ones. I got all 32 last nite, they're awesome, but the links won't work on Thursday, so get them while you can!

dawnyoshi

07-01-2002, 09:42 PM

you can never be disappointed by a good ol' WS commercial...UNLESS IT'S ADVERTISING CRAP LIKE PPG! I will laugh when I see a big F on its review! MUWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

(truth btw- PPG sucks end of story *imo*)

Xevo

07-01-2002, 10:00 PM

dawn, thanks for reviewing a movie that hasn't even come out yet? It's only remote competition is MIB II, which I am unsure of. I will see both on Wednesday. I expect to like PPG more. I also expect PPG to make more than Lilo & Stitch. If you don't like PPG, keep it to yourself rather than flaming please, thanks!

TylerL

07-01-2002, 10:14 PM

Any opinion that includes the phrase "end of story" should probably be ignored.

Xevo

07-01-2002, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by TylerL
Any opinion that includes the phrase "end of story" should probably be ignored.

Too true!

Glad to see your avatar back, it makes all the bandwidth usage worthwhile =)

Mad Scientist

07-02-2002, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by Nin-Nin69

I hope they do a Aqua Teen Hunger Force commercial.

Meatwad <wearing Mojo Jojo's Helmit and Cape> - Did you get the tickets Shake?

Master Shake- Actually I gave all of your money to Ignignokt and Err to get some 44oz bottles of Nyquill for their colds.

Frylock-You actually believed that story?

Master Shake- Of course! The moon is full of unknown parasites that they can't protect themselves against! They just needed to restock their medicine cabinet. No harm done there.

Meatwad- But what about my money?

Master Shake- Why didn't you just marry your money if ya loved so dam much?! Besides you don't have any legs to wear pants to
hold your money in because your a rotting ball of meat!

Meatwad- Now how are we supose to see the movie?

Master Shake- Simple. I'll sneak in the back door and tape it for you guys with this new camera I got.

Carl - What happened to my fricken camera?!

<Cuts to movie logo>

Steve- Watch the Powerpuff Girls Movie on July 3rd in theaters everywhere!

I don't know about the use of the words "fricken" and "damn" in that commercial (unless, of course, it aired on Adult Swim), but everything else would go great intact.

Taco Addict

07-02-2002, 12:22 PM

the only advertisments that use AS characters that i really hate are the call att ones there just about as funny as carrot top himself (which is almost not at all.)

dawnyoshi

07-02-2002, 02:12 PM

wow. Glad to see my opinion can't be expressed without a few flames. Oh well. I expected as much.

posted by Xevo:
dawn, thanks for reviewing a movie that hasn't even come out yet?

It's easy to review a movie that is going to turn out to be exactly like teh show, only with more 90s "singers". I can say the same thing for Hey Arnold the movie. I absolutely love the series and its New York charm, but I doubt the movie is any good. Why? It's basically a long episode. They just toss in a few things that will sell the movie. It will be the same with PPG, except the difference is I've never liked it in the first place. I know that's my opinion, but I'm just making a statement of what to expect.

If you don't like PPG, keep it to yourself rather than flaming please, thanks!

lol. A PPG fan aren't we? The funny part is how our theme from last year in school was Human Rights, including teh declaration, French Revolution, and all that. Also sad is how I studied an issue (like there isn't enough of them) in China dealing with Freedon of Expression. I've finished "expressing" my hatred, so flame all you want. It only causes more reasons to flame the show. :p

posted bt TylerL
Any opinion that includes the phrase "end of story" should probably be ignored.

guess I should ignore that then. Since that was "your opinion" and you included those dreadful 3 words. I don't know what inspired me to post that, probably because I was just so sick of PPG at the time. After all, it took the timeslot fo the Zeta Project delaying teh show for over 2 months...

EDIT: Please note I'm trying to be as reasonable to others opinions as possible, and that I am trying to describe my opinions in a semi-intellectual way. Sorry if it sounds a little rash or rude. It's a habit of mine when I get so involved with discussing a subject.
Oh, and have you ever tried that 3-D eye magic look on the background of this forum? It makes the water all 3-D and stuff. lol

Joe Tully

07-02-2002, 05:24 PM

Okay, kids, let's all behave in here. The thread's getting a little out of control.

Sandoz

07-02-2002, 06:15 PM

Why shows geared toward adults are advertising a movie geared toward kids is beyond me. After all, they're showing the Brak promo during Toonami now when usually any commercial featuring Adult Swim characters is shown late at night. I think it would make more sense to have Johnny Bravo or Dexter pimping it, since the PPG movie's target audience would probably recognize those characters more than Brak. *shrug*

Xevo

07-02-2002, 06:45 PM

I think they're using Brak and Space Ghost precisely as a calculated move to target adult CN viewers. If you ask me, PPG will pull in more money than MIB II, and precisely because it appeals to kids and adults equally. If you haven't given PPG a chance, you ought to at least wait for the movie to come out on video before you proclaim it terrible. I think most people will be pleasantly surprised at the end result.

randomguy

07-02-2002, 06:50 PM

Agreed. It can, occasionally, be a very clever show, and I figure that's why they're using Brak and SG- to attract the audience that kind of appreciates that unique brand of animated weirdness and/or surrealism. I think it's good marketing. And, if nothing else, the spots are pretty funny to watch.

dawnyoshi

07-03-2002, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by Xevo: If you haven't given PPG a chance, you ought to at least wait for the movie to come out on video before you proclaim it terrible.

The problem is I've given PPG chances up to the new episodes that started in summer last year. Don't get me wrong. The first episodes were rther funny. I enjoyed the first two episodes featuring "him", and the Anubis dog-head episode. My personal favorite was the RowdeyRuffBoys episode, mostly because it shows weakness in the girls, and because we saw them take a massive beating :p . Wish they'd bring the RRB back...

since the return og the Anubis dog-head, and the super villain episode, I've hated this show. They rely on the same old jokes that made the series good. A pity really, as Craig McCracken did such a wonderful job the not only the pilot episodes, but the first season...

I'd say MIB2 has been a little more anticipated (Super Bowl commericals anyone?). It will probably do better at the box office just because of WIll Smith, Tommy Lee Jones, and because of it being a promising sequel to a high-rated movie. Of course, the evil marching band of 5-year olds may prove me wrong. lol

Of course, if respect for PPG is to go up, they could start be removing it off of Toonami and KidsWB...
just my 2 quarters. If you want to discuss intellectual differences, please continue. :)

Xevo

07-03-2002, 01:44 AM

Trust me, the movie is MUCH more adult than the show. The show ran out of steam awhile back, mostly because all their good ideas have been funnelled into the movie. Think what you want, but you'll continue to look like an idiot for as long as you claim that a movie is terrible before having seen it.

dawnyoshi

07-03-2002, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by Xevo
Think what you want, but you'll continue to look like an idiot for as long as you claim that a movie is terrible before having seen it.

This is going to be my last post in the thread unless I'm pushed far enough again. Mostly because I don't want to override any admins patience with this now beginining flame war, which I would like to end before this thread is closed.

Personally, the only thing you've been able to say is that I can believe what I want, but I'm an idiot if I don't think like you. Sorry to say this, but that's basically what you've been saying. I made my statement of MIB 2 against PPG for a reason, and I was using evidence. PPG was more out of the blue while MIB 2 has been anticipated for a while. I also stated my reasons why I don't think this movie will be as successful.

Also, you say I'm an idiot for bashing a movie that I haven't seen yet. You seem to act like you've seen it already, which you obviously haven't...at least at the time you posted. Please watch what you say. I respect your opinion on the movie and PPG, but I'm arguing with my own opinion, and about how you keep rejecting mine through the use of insults.

My last 2 cents...for now. :cool:

TylerL

07-03-2002, 11:10 AM

All opinions on the movie are humorously worthless until people have SEEN the movie.

bassist

07-03-2002, 12:47 PM

I have been looking forward to this movie. I spent much of my freshman year of college watching PPG. It's amazing how much it helps when picking up girls, but that's besides the point. After seeing the previews, I can't say I think it's going to be a good film, and in no way did I or do I ever expect PPG to any more adult than Rocky and Bullwinkle. Still, I will go see it, and I will try not to judge it yet.

Just the other night, I saw Rollerball, a movie which was supposed to be terrible... and it was, but it was still better than I expected. In fact, when you go see PPG, expect it to be terrible. Expect it to reek like three day old egg salad you left sitting out in the sun. That way, no matter how bad it is, it's better than expected.

-Big Ben

dawnyoshi

07-03-2002, 01:58 PM

To bassist-

lol! That is a really cool idea! :D

I've been seeing new previews that actually show *GASP* plot in the movie, and from what I've gathered, it's based on PPG when they were first made and how they weren't perfect at first. If this is true, I might have to rent it for the heck of it. After all, I usually like stuff that Craig and Gendy make. :p (new eps fo PPG is that exception)

Thanks for contributing to this growing anger post bassist. I think that doused a few flames. :)

Xevo

07-03-2002, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by dawnyoshi
To bassist-

lol! That is a really cool idea! :D

I've been seeing new previews that actually show *GASP* plot in the movie, and from what I've gathered, it's based on PPG when they were first made and how they weren't perfect at first. If this is true, I might have to rent it for the heck of it. After all, I usually like stuff that Craig and Gendy make. :p (new eps fo PPG is that exception)

Thanks for contributing to this growing anger post bassist. I think that doused a few flames. :)

As I've been TRYING to tell you, the plot of the movie is actually a lot deeper than what you had been giving it credit for. I hadn't seen the movie when I was writing those posts, but I had read every spoiler-filled review out on it since the test screenings almost a month ago, and EVERY review, from man, woman, adult and child has been VERY positive. Not so for the dreck that is MIB II (and I love MiB, I just think the movie is one that shouldn't have been made).

dawnyoshi

07-03-2002, 08:38 PM

I'm really sorry to say this, but I still can't trust your opinion. You are very biased with th PPG and seem to be a major fan. While as I'm a major anti-fan, which is why no one can trust me on it right now. I've heard it will be shown for free at Comic-Con, so I'll give it a review when I see it there. That way if it's bad, I don't waste the 12 bucks going to a theater (tickets, popcorn, and a soda cost too much these days).

Oh, and I still have the right to my opinion, as I respect yours. Although irritated. :yakko:

EDIT: Sigh...why have I been calling these posts opinions? They're impressions that went to opinions and turned into flames.

EDIT EDIT: SOrry once again if anyone is offended by what I say, or what I'm about to say. If you don't want to read what I have to say, then please don't read it. If you read it and start flaming/complaing/reporting, then please grow up. Xevo, if you want to continue this "debate", continue it through PMing. Less limitationg and boundries then. I believe these situations cna be resolved easily without having to ask an admin to solve the crisis. They are under enough pressure as it is right now I'm sure. :D

Xevo

07-03-2002, 09:41 PM

I love how, whenever I try to defend a property, especially ones that we as fans have a lot to gain from (PPG movie because if it does very well, we have a chance of MORE Cartoon Network properties becoming movies, imagine the possibilities...) then suddenly I'm a fanboy. I'm really not that big of a PPG fan -- I liked the first and second season, but all the newer stuff I've seen hasn't been nearly as good as the new Dexter's Lab stuff, and Dexter's Lab has gone downhill since Ego Trip (I think that was the name of his time-travelling movie special).

Anyway, I've only been trying to get you to not bash a movie that is fairly important to ANY cartoon network fan, especially one you seem to know little to nothing about. From all reports, the movie is excellent. Try having an open mind about ANY Cartoon Network property, since being against CN is bad for the fanbase as a whole -- if we can't back CN properties we don't necessarily love, then the other CN shows get hurt as a result. Unless the show really sucks, of course.

This is all completely off topic... I think the Brak PPG commercials have been discussed enough... Toonami Digital Arsenal has them all for download. Topic complete.

edit: forgot to add the final part of my last sentence... oops.

dawnyoshi

07-03-2002, 10:10 PM

As I see your point, allow me to describe how I support CN in different ways. For one, I have been a loyal viewer to CN since 1994. I've been watching Space Ghost since 1994. Heck, I've seen the Jim Carrey review numerous times. I support (almost) everything on Adult Swim, and I WAS a loyal Toonami viewer until DBZ changed all that. I still watch Cartoon Network as my prime channel here.

The thing is that I DO support movies, but I have just given up on the PPG. Like I said before in my previous post, I'll see what it's like for myself at Comic-Con hopefully. But for one who enjoyed the PPG pilot episodes so much, only to see it go from prime and glory to slums of every big city combined, you start to lose faith in a series...i'll admit it's better than Ed, Edd, and Eddy though. Anything's better than that.

I love the Samurai Jack and Justice League movies btw. I faithfully supported Samurai Jack before censors sort of ruined at. Just to state, please never again insult my opinions and impressions, as that's how they started out. Like said, they were opinions and impressions, not senseless comments without and backup (excluding the first post I made. I know that sounded stupid) Also, please do not insult my intelligence in a case like this. PPG COULD do something for CN, but Toonami did. Adult Swim is starting to. I highly doubt me not getting a good impression on PPG movie is going to crash the entire company into the ground.

That's the main point. My posts were opinionated and came from impressions I got from previews. You seem to think that by not showing support for the PPG movie, i'm a bad CN fan that cannot respect the network. It's only right that if I don't like it, then why support it? If it's popular, it will receive the support from others that like it. Take Baby Blues for example. A lot of people like the show (me), while others hate it (Treehouse-sorry. first name I could think of that has respectable opinions on the show :) ). I greatly support its success and the airing of season 2, while treehouse wouldn't because he doesn't like it. He has every right to do that, while as the ones who DO like it will be able to support it. Treehouse could watch SNL or South Park during BB, and we BB fans get a new season. We both find ways to work with it. I'm exactly like Treehouse in this position. please do think that over before making judgements like this again. :)

Off topic as stated. Loved the Space Ghost commercial, but the Brak ones were rather lame...

randomguy

07-03-2002, 10:24 PM

Wow... you're getting hostile, Xevo. Take a breather. Anyways, I'm not sure I'll go see it, but it does look like a fairly stylish piece of work, and I like to see any piece of 2D animation do well at the box office. It probably won't be another Iron Giant, but it still looks well above your average summer tripe.

And dawnyoshi, I would like to discuss your Xbox hatred on the videogames board or via PM. Get back to me.

Ikwig

07-04-2002, 12:34 AM

Well, I'm definitely going to go see PPG. I'm not the biggest PPG fan in the world, but the series has some classic moments and I've heard good things about the movie.

Anyway, I've only been trying to get you to not bash a movie that is fairly important to ANY cartoon network fan

And I agree with Xevo; the important thing is to keep an open mind about CN projects, because their success could open the way for other, better (more interesting, more wonderful, more what YOU want to see) projects.

And I think I may have already mentioned this, but I loved the Brak and the Space Ghost ads :D !

bassist

07-04-2002, 02:26 AM

Originally posted by Ikwig
I'm not the biggest PPG fan in the world
I'm glad your willing to admit that. I know the biggest PPG fan in the world. He weighs in at roughly 450 lbs. I used to do stuff with him, but he finds it hard to walk since he put on the freshman 150... I always thought it was the freshman 15, but I guess it's a proportional kind of thing.

-Big Ben

Xevo

07-04-2002, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by bassist

I'm glad your willing to admit that. I know the biggest PPG fan in the world. He weighs in at roughly 450 lbs. I used to do stuff with him, but he finds it hard to walk since he put on the freshman 150... I always thought it was the freshman 15, but I guess it's a proportional kind of thing.

-Big Ben

ROOFLES! Ok I swore I wasn't going to post here again, but that just made me crack up =P

dawnyoshi

07-05-2002, 12:42 AM

Yeah, last post here. I saw MIB2 today, and it rather sucked...not NEARLY as good as MIB, and I was disappointed to not see agent L. I also read the plot of PPG. It sounds nice, but I already saw an episode based on the movie. Kinda sickens me that it's like this...

oh well. I'm making a truce that we were both right in some ways, k Xevo? :)

Xevo

07-05-2002, 02:55 AM

heheh fine with me =) I still say you need to give it a chance... you still may not like it, but I'll be much more open to what you think is wrong with it once you've seen it!

mrpopadopolis

07-06-2002, 01:17 AM

Although his arguments are crappy, he does seem to know everything about anything so I'm not gonna argue with him.
Okay, yes I am. In my opinion The PPG Movie is probably the most entertaining movie I've seen in theatres this year. The action sequences were truly amazing. Especially the "Tag" scene.

mrpopadopolis

07-06-2002, 01:20 AM

Wait a minute... Isn't this supposed to be a strictly Adult Swim forum?

Xevo

07-06-2002, 01:21 AM

It was originally about the Brak commercials for the PPG movie...

Killtacular

07-06-2002, 01:17 PM

Doesn't matter now. I can't believe how selfish some of you people can be. I'm glad that this fight is over, but I'm still really really pissed off.

Do you know how poorly the Powerpuff Girls movie is doing in theaters?

It's because of people like YOU who choose not to support it, or rent it later.

Well, THANKS, people. Warner wanted PPG to be a hit in three days, and it isn't. Goodbye, CN Movies. No more movies from Cartoon Network. That's right. I hope you're FREAKING HAPPY.

Thanks to the PPG's poor performance, it will no doubt cause losses of MILLIONS of dollars. Which will force CN to have to cover those losses. By budget cutting.

Budget cutting out of their least profitable blocks. You know which one I'm talking about.

So, again, thank you, Warner, and thank you, movie avoiders, for screwing us all over.

BADBATZ

07-06-2002, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by Matt Wilson
Doesn't matter now. I can't believe how selfish some of you people can be. I'm glad that this fight is over, but I'm still really really pissed off.

Do you know how poorly the Powerpuff Girls movie is doing in theaters?

It's because of people like YOU who choose not to support it, or rent it later.

Well, THANKS, people. Warner wanted PPG to be a hit in three days, and it isn't. Goodbye, CN Movies. No more movies from Cartoon Network. That's right. I hope you're FREAKING HAPPY.

Thanks to the PPG's poor performance, it will no doubt cause losses of MILLIONS of dollars. Which will force CN to have to cover those losses. By budget cutting.

Budget cutting out of their least profitable blocks. You know which one I'm talking about.

So, again, thank you, Warner, and thank you, movie avoiders, for screwing us all over.

Oh jesus christ, Matt. Why are you yelling at us? WE'RE the people that are more sophisticated than most CN viewers, WE'RE the ones that get all the inside jokes and adult humor in their kids cartoons, WE'RE the ones that have made an effort to see it and have made an effort to get people to come with us.

If you're gonna lay blame, blame these movie theater chains that booked the PPG movie only during matinee times. Blame the markets that only got the movie in 1/3 the theaters and 1/5 the screens that MIB2 got. Blame the ad buyers and sellers for not getting the word out beyond KidsWB and CN. Blame the "it's for pre-teen girls" stigma that surrounds it with people that have never seen an episode (lots of people, by the way, haven't).

But don't EVEN point fingers our collective way.

Killtacular

07-06-2002, 02:31 PM

Oh jesus christ, Matt. Why are you yelling at us? WE'RE the people that are more sophisticated than most CN viewers, WE'RE the ones that get all the inside jokes and adult humor in their kids cartoons, WE'RE the ones that have made an effort to see it and have made an effort to get people to come with us.

Um, I was yelling at people that refused to see the movie. You've seen the movie, and thus, the post does not apply to you.

BADBATZ

07-06-2002, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by Matt Wilson

Um, I was yelling at people that refused to see the movie. You've seen the movie, and thus, the post does not apply to you.

Eh. Fair enough, but it sounded mighty all-encompassing to me.

Killtacular

07-06-2002, 02:45 PM

I may sound really.. mean-spirited, because I'm in a terrible mood.

CN Movies is officially dead. No more CN movies. It's too late. :(

Xevo

07-06-2002, 03:05 PM

Well, we owe that primarily to the exhibitors. Have you tried seeing the movie? It doesn't play past 6:00 PM in most places, and if you can find an 8:00 PM show you're lucky. Why would they do this? Well it's not a Disney movie, it's not a Dreamworks movie, it's not a CGI movie, obviously it's crap and only little kiddies are going to want to go see it.

I think the movie will have good legs, and will probably drop a LOT less through the weekend and into next weekend than MIB II will. HOPEFULLY people will start waking up and we'll see PPG playing on more screens and playing through the night. Sadly, it looks unlikely to happen, and I think we have Warner Bros. to blame for not pushing this as a kid AND adult friendly movie to the exhibitors. I guess, from an interview with Craig (ya know, the creator), that he was right that the Warners just couldn't see how wide of an audience the show really had, and now their shortsightedness is gonna to hurt CN. Ah well, at least they had the balls to try.