"Samurai Jack" Season Two

[Vin]

For fans of the series, what do you want to see happen in the second season? Me? I want to see Jack find a love-interest. Oh yeah - and battle Aku face to face in a winner takes all! Hey, we could have a series without Aku, right? ;)

[zimbach]

Jack without Aku? I think this series would have to end if Jack finally defeated Aku, but that does not mean Jack would not live on.

What comes after depends on how (when) Aku is defeated. If Jack ever succeeds in going back in time to prevent Aku's reign of terror, then the story has nowhere left to go.

If, however, Aku meets his end in the future (story present) the society that Aku built will remain, and it will descend quickly into chaos until a new leader takes control. The struggle for supremacy in this shattered world can be the basis for a new story.

A sequel series with different characters set in the same milleiu, a la Star Trek: Deep Space 9, might work. Both a new hero and a new antagonist can arise from all the varied cultures Jack has encountered throughout his travels. There may be a role for Jack in all of this, but with Aku gone so goes Jack's purpose in life.

[Vin]

Originally posted by zimbach
Jack without Aku? I think this series would have to end if Jack finally defeated Aku, but that does not mean Jack would not live on.

What comes after depends on how (when) Aku is defeated. If Jack ever succeeds in going back in time to prevent Aku's reign of terror, then the story has nowhere left to go.

If, however, Aku meets his end in the future (story present) the society that Aku built will remain, and it will descend quickly into chaos until a new leader takes control. The struggle for supremacy in this shattered world can be the basis for a new story.

A sequel series with different characters set in the same milleiu, a la Star Trek: Deep Space 9, might work. Both a new hero and a new antagonist can arise from all the varied cultures Jack has encountered throughout his travels. There may be a role for Jack in all of this, but with Aku gone so goes Jack's purpose in life.

Actually, I had been thinking about this, but in the "Samurai Jack" animated theatrical, we could have Aku and Jack face off, with Jack defeating Aku, but costing him his life. Jack has a wife and a son (we would have to have him meet someone and get married first in the series) and his son would them take over the helm. We could have another series which has Jack's son following in his footsteps.

[Sharklady]

> Hey, we could have a series without Aku, right? <

Not the same series. They might as well make another one altogether.

What I want to see in the second season is a generous portion of change-of-pace eps, including a sprinkling of comedies. Some of those offbeat cultures Jack encountered could stand further exploration, plus, I wouldn't mind return appearences of a few of the friends Jack made in Season One.

Most of all, I want them to keep turning out those beautifully stylized images and soundtracks- those make *any* story better.

[Vin]

Originally posted by Sharklady
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Most of all, I want them to keep turning out those beautifully stylized images and soundtracks- those make *any* story better. [/B]

Agreed. :D

[KoKo]

Originally posted by Vincent Benenati
Me? I want to see Jack find a love-interest.

I think that after episode 6 (with Ikra the warrior woman) he would be staying away from any woman. :p
Anyway, I'd like for Jack to get stuck with a bunch of little kids who know about his quest and everything, like the ones from the episode with Aku's twisted fairytales, and he has to save them and take them back to their parents or something. I think it would be so funny to see how he would handle kids. :D
*looks at what she wrote again* Oh, well, that's an episode I'd like to see happen. For the entire second season, however, I would like to see MORE AKU. Poor evil guy hasn't been shown very much lately. :(

[Batman347]

Basically, what they did in the first season. Maybe more action or talking. I would like to see Samurai Jack find someone that would be a young sidekick for half the time.

[LightAngel]

I'd like to see some sap I suppose, or maybe just some more reaccuring characters.

[Vin]

Originally posted by Batman347
Basically, what they did in the first season. Maybe more action or talking. I would like to see Samurai Jack find someone that would be a young sidekick for half the time.

That would be great, so long as it's not Scappy Doo version of Jack!

[Sharklady]

> That would be great, so long as it's not Scappy Doo version of Jack! <

AAAAAAUUUUGGGHHHHHHH!!!!

Now I gotta go scrub out my imagination!

[Batman347]

I'm like somebody he meets along his journey. Someone who is having their own problems or his or her parents died. It sure would change the show.

[VashTheStampede]

Jack need another recurring villain. Someon who pops up every once and awhile to face Jack or Jack has to stop him. Maybe Aku get some "Generals" who come up with plans to conquer other planets for Aku. Just like Batman and Superman have many different kinds of villains, I think Jack should.

[Yuss]

Some more continuing storyline/story arcs... those are always fun for toon geeks.

[I.R Joey]

***Cough**** More Scotsman ***cough***

[Donna lady]

NOT a love interest. That would just create too many problems. Is there any show that's had romantic storylines without degenerating into a soap opera?
But they certainly should have Jack meet more women in his travels, some as allies and friends.

I have to agree that if Jack defeats Aku, whether in the future or in the past, that would be the end of the series. Another series could be spun off--Samurai Jack: the Next Generation or what have you--but it couldn't be the same show.

I certainly hope they bring back some of the characters from the first season's shows. The Talking Dogs, the kids from Aku's Fairy Tales, the Triseraquins, even the Gangsters--I would love to see Jack go back and get the Neptune Jewel away from them.
The idea of story arcs and another big nemesis, Aku's general or so forth, are also good ideas. They could even combine them into a story arc of Jack facing some great foe sent by Aku. Jack might well have to take several episodes, or even a whole season, to defeat his nemesis. That would add some dramatic trajectory to the series without risking a premature "jumping the shark" by getting rid of Aku too soon.
It would be kind of funny, or interesting, or something, if they had a story or story arc where an even worse villain than Aku arrives on Earth and takes Aku captive. Jack would have to defeat this new threat and somehow rescue Aku if he's ever to travel back to his own time.

Fans of PPG and DL have pointed out elsewhere that several situations and favorite lines--e.g., talking dogs, "Who else wants some?!"--on Samurai Jack were on PPG or DL earlier. Does anyone have any opinions on what Genndy & Co. are likely to do on SJ, based on what they seem to have favored on their other series?

Peace ~ Donna

[KoKo]

Originally posted by Donna lady
NOT a love interest. That would just create too many problems. Is there any show that's had romantic storylines without degenerating into a soap opera?

Go Donna! :D
I think, though, after he destroys Aku (or if he destroys him, you never know what surprise they have in store for us, but it's obvious isn't it?) and if they continue the series (yeah, I wish :rolleyes: ) I'd be okay with it. Or...maybe not. Okay, I have mixed feelings on that subject :rolleyes: , but right now we'll leave that to the romance to the fan fictions. ;)

[I.R Joey]

Suppousedly the team doesn't want to make it to complex as far as storyline, so I don't know if they'll do any really big story arcs.


What would really be interesting is if Jack finally gets the chance to go back in time but then has this moral crisis over whether he should change the past in order to reflect "his" ideal of a good world, and that if he does he might erase the existance of alot of the people in the current world (Like those kids, or the dogs, or the Scotsman.)

[Mackenzie Rainelle]

I really don't think he needs a love interest or a sidekick. The whole point is he has to suffer alone, and that makes the quest a little more important. If he got a love interest or a sidekick, he wouldn't feel the weight of Aku's mental torture as much, and he wouldn't continue becoming stronger. Plus, there's also the possibility of him having to leave said sidekick or love interest when he goes back to the past, and given his tendency to hold tight to close relationships, he might not be able to make himself leave, which would completely destroy the point of his entire quest. I think it's nice he has some distant friends (the Triceraquins, the Scotsman, etc..) but he mainly needs to go it alone.

[Sharklady]

Valid points all, Mackenzie.

[PeppeRaskell1]

Originally posted by KoKo


I think that after episode 6 (with Ikra the warrior woman) he would be staying away from any woman. :p

True. But I'd like to see an episode where he runs into a predatory female determined to have him for her own. Just when she thinks she's got Jack cornered, he'll strike back by coming on too strong in the Charm Department, perhaps even using the one weapon he was born with: his boyish good looks and his well-muscled body.


. I think it would be so funny to see how he would handle kids. :D

Or maybe they could do an episode about some kids who have ventured into the woods to look for him...Just to see if he's real. During their search, they think up stories based on what they think he looks like (Think B/SA's "Legends of the Dark Knight" episode here, people). It ends with the kids getting into some sort of very real danger (one of Aku's robotic monsters, maybe) and getting rescued by Jack (who they find out is very real indeed!)

I'd like to see happen. For the entire second season, however, I would like to see MORE AKU. Poor evil guy hasn't been shown very much lately. :(

For this guy, I'd like to see a "Duck Amuck"-type episode in which some sort of unseen force wreaks havoc on his latest plans to wreak havoc; to see if ol' Totem Pole Head can take it, as well as dish it out. Of course, Aku's tormentor would turn out to be Jack, seated at the animator's table, inflicting a little "creative revenge."

Who would I like to see come back? The Gangsters, who could get mixed up in some sort of unpleasant business with an alien Marlon Brando "Godfather" type who makes a bet that his champion can't beat the Gangsters' best guy in a fight. Guess who the Gangsters would pick to fight him!

"I am more than a Cartoon Cartoon...I am an Original!"

[Donna lady]

Thanks, Koko! ;)

I agree with you, I. R. Joey. If Jack ever does stop to think about how his actions in the past would affect the future he's come to know, he will certainly face a real moral crisis.
There are ways they could resolve this, or at least skirt around it, but that might make the series too complex for the TV-Y7 audience.

I agree with you too, Mackenzie.
Originally posted by PeppeRaskell1
I'd like to see an episode where he runs into a predatory female determined to have him for her own. Just when she thinks she's got Jack cornered, he'll strike back by coming on too strong in the Charm Department, perhaps even using the one weapon he was born with: his boyish good looks and his well-muscled body.
Ah, sort of like Austin Powers defeating the Fem-Bots with his all-conquering mojo?
:p
Actually I could see Jack doing that, but not deliberately. He could fight a desperate battle against the femme fatale's robots, and emerge all battle-damaged, hair down, etc. When the femme sees him in his fundoshi, she swoons, or turns all red in the face and sets him free, or something. He'd be extremely puzzled and unable to figure out how she was overcome.
For this guy, I'd like to see a "Duck Amuck"-type episode in which some sort of unseen force wreaks havoc on his latest plans to wreak havoc; to see if ol' Totem Pole Head can take it, as well as dish it out. Of course, Aku's tormentor would turn out to be Jack, seated at the animator's table, inflicting a little "creative revenge."
That WOULD be funny, but it's just not in the show's... idiom. Jack would never do that, even to Aku, and if he could, why not just get rid of Aku?

Peace ~ Donna

[KoKo]

Originally posted by PeppeRaskell1
But I'd like to see an episode where he runs into a predatory female determined to have him for her own. Just when she thinks she's got Jack cornered, he'll strike back by coming on too strong in the Charm Department, perhaps even using the one weapon he was born with: his boyish good looks and his well-muscled body.

:D :D :D :D *wipes away drool*
Perhaps that has already been done when it comes to us fangirls. :rolleyes:
But that kind of an episode would be hilarious, maybe even fan service like episode 16 (the Dome of Doom). But just the way you worded his "weapon" makes me giddy. :D ;)

[Singin' Stray Cat]

Uh-oh, talk of fan service... now I'm gonna start drooling...

(gets mop and bucket ready)

Anyway, I agree with a lot of what has been previously said. But I guess what I'd like to see is... well, more of the same. :) I LOVE the background music, to the point where I'd gladly shell out money for a soundtrack. :p The "atmosphere" that the visual and sound artists create for the episodes is wonderful too - it goes along well with whatever's happening, even if nothing's happening, if you know what I mean. Oh yes, and I hope Phil LaMarr and Mako keep doing the voices of Jack and Aku, respectively. They do such a great job. :)

[Donna lady]

Originally posted by Singin' Stray Cat
...I guess what I'd like to see is... well, more of the same. :) I LOVE the background music, to the point where I'd gladly shell out money for a soundtrack. :p The "atmosphere" that the visual and sound artists create for the episodes is wonderful too - it goes along well with whatever's happening, even if nothing's happening, if you know what I mean. Oh yes, and I hope Phil LaMarr and Mako keep doing the voices of Jack and Aku, respectively. They do such a great job. :)

Good points all, Stray Cat!
I meant to mention Phil LaMarr and Mako, but forgot. Jack without Phil (and "The Accent"), or Aku without Mako--unthinkable!

Peace ~ Donna

[Hitchhiker]

What to see... what to see...

More good guys. They had the Scot and the Viking, but there are so many more. Like a gun man (western), a Greek/Roman warrior, or maybe another Samurai (a legend revived to counter Jack), and other warriors of nations and myths.

I like the kid ideas. But it had better be one episode to follow tradition.

I really want Jack to learn more tricks. And something more then just a one episode use.

Jack in more outfits. He really looked cool as a gangster, so what about other outfits. This could lead to dare I say it, Jack Crossdressing (its a rule that Jack must pretend to be a girl at one point).

And about the woman/love intrest. Maybe they should take another page from anime and give Jack a harem! Like that Jack saves a group of girls and the rest of episode is about them trying to one up each other with Jack being the victim in the middle. At the end he manages to do the one thing all other anime boys wish they could do, escape! Thus further making Jack want to avoid women!

[I.R Joey]

I really want to see Jack learn some other tricks to the jump good episode was cool, but I would have personally saved that last scene for a season finalie, or better yet the series final episode.

Speaking of Jack's final confrintation who here thinks that he should perhaps call upon some of his newfound allies for help in the battle against Aku?

[zimbach]

Originally posted by I.R Joey
Speaking of Jack's final confrintation who here thinks that he should perhaps call upon some of his newfound allies for help in the battle against Aku?
I think it's been established that only Jack's enchanted sword can harm Aku (I could be wrong, though). Jack's allies could play a role in a grand battle, keeping Aku's minions at bay while Jack and Aku make their final confrontation on their own. I see shades of the climax of "Return of the Jedi" in this, but different.

[I.R Joey]

I don't know that ancient spirit that made the Neptune Jewel seemed to put Aku through his paces.

I think the Scotsman also has a magic sword as well so who knows. BTW, who thinks that they should tell us why Aku's after the Scotsman?

[KoKo]

Originally posted by I.R Joey
I don't know that ancient spirit that made the Neptune Jewel seemed to put Aku through his paces.

From what I saw in that episode, they attacked him, but didn't destroy him. They probably would've if they were powerful enough (in order to keep him from coming back to try and get it), so I don't think they would be able to destroy him. But Jack could increase his chances of destroying Aku by teaming up with someone as powerful as they, but he just had to get rid of them, didn't he? :rolleyes: He didn't even bother trying to talk to them. :D But heck, that was a great episode anyway. Just as long as they got him into that suit. Hitchhiker's right, MORE OUTFITS!

[Thundercleese]

How about everyone who has had help from Jack(Woolies, dogs, the well guardians, ect.) , team up to save him from some kind of danger.......