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KingDead

05-28-2002, 08:32 PM

I would love to see an Ed spinoff. A Spike prequil would feel like a retread. Besides he gave up the crime world, so a new series following his death would seem odd. What would an Ed series be like? I don't know, maybe 5 or 6 years later with her continuing the bounty hunter path (perhaps with Faye?)

Anyway, that's enough slobering fanboyness.

</end futile fanboy mode>

EDIT: I can't spell. I meant retread not retarded. My fault.

pzcman

05-28-2002, 09:08 PM

why would a spike prequil be retarded???? his death wouldn't matter in a prequil. i think it's a great idea.

fignuts16

05-28-2002, 09:52 PM

how about a show where Kuwabara and Vegeta share an ampartment in New York? their next door neighbor could be hiei!

KingDead

05-28-2002, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by pzcman
why would a spike prequil be retarded???? his death wouldn't matter in a prequil. i think it's a great idea.

I meant retread not retarded, as noted in my correction. You see, I can't spell.

<start futile fanboy mode>
The original series seemed to have enough Spike anyway. A prequil would seem odd (at least to me) after watching the original series because he left the gang and is no longer idolizing Vicious (on which I could be wrong). I don't remember, but we get enough of why Spike left the gang in the episodes, so a prequil would repetitious. I would like something different than what a Spike series would bring.

I might be wrong, of course.

</end futile fanboy mode>

Majin_Megabyte

05-28-2002, 10:30 PM

Coach McGurk should get a spin off. Ed should get one too.

hydrokarst

05-28-2002, 10:33 PM

A Spike prequel would be best. I don't think its retreading much; they only hinted at his previous life with flashbacks and stuff. There is much more to work with and it would be more interesting than an Ed series.

Maybe a Jet prequel would work too-- following his days as a cop.

JTurner954

05-29-2002, 12:12 AM

Oh no, not more Ed. :eek:

Anyway, it would be kind of cool to see more on Gundam 0083 with what happens with Kou after Stardust Memory ended.

I'll second the idea of a Coach Mcguirk spinoff. That would be great.

Rabbiterose

05-29-2002, 04:25 AM

:dot:

Yes more ED! (:<{

Hmmm...I heard a rumor of a Ed spinoff in the works...but that's just a rumor of course.

Kenshin5000

05-29-2002, 01:21 PM

I think that Ed as a character doesn't have enough depth to have a spinoff on her, but that's just me.

Why don't we run through the shows?

Yu Yu Hakusho: I haven't seen the end and I doubt most of you have, it being 100+ episodes or whatnot. So let's skip that.

Cowboy Bebop: A Faye spinoff with her before she joined the Bebop would probably work. Even one dealing with her after the end of the series. A Jet prequel also sounds good, so I second that.

Pilot Canidate: ***beats self senseless with a herring***

Gundam 0083: With all the Gundams out there, I think a spinoff would be redundant.

Outlaw Star: Rumors of a sequel abound.... But something on either Hilda or Aisha as prequels would work.

Tenchi Muyo: Considering the fact that there already is a spinoff in Japan ( Tenchi Muyo GXP), I think they should concentrate their efforts on getting that one over here on ASA.

As far as ASC goes, I would KILL for a Chopper Dan spinoff! :)

Ikwig

05-29-2002, 01:42 PM

I want to know what happens to Kou after the end of 0083 and I want to know what happens to Jet and Faye after the end of Cowboy Bebop.

I would also be up for an Ed spin-off, just cause it could be so zany and random. Don't we all need a little more randomness in our lives? :D

And while we're at it, how about taking Pilot Candidate and turning it into the comedy it should have been?!! (Well, somebody had to say it! :D )

Opaque

05-29-2002, 02:03 PM

o.k. ed wasn't called radical edward for nothing. obviously she capable of some cool stuff. it would be neat to see what she would do when she was on her one, like before she joined bebop.

JETBLACK87

05-29-2002, 06:16 PM

A Cowboy (or Samurai) Andy spinoff would be awesome too. they already had a Ural Terpsichore(VT"s husband) spinoff on the CB webpage wich isn't up any more. here is a link to the archive of it http://bebop.jazzmess.com/english/ut/index.html

bassist

05-29-2002, 06:43 PM

What about a Space Ghost spinoff... Maybe a show for Brak and Zorak or something...

-Big Ben

charmuse

05-30-2002, 03:43 PM

Carl should have is own show....at work and crusin for the ladies in his ride!

Andy Mancini

05-30-2002, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by fignuts16
how about a show where Kuwabara and Vegeta share an ampartment in New York? their next door neighbor could be hiei!
LOL! :)

sXeMooninite

05-30-2002, 05:38 PM

A good spin-off would be for Carl's own show.
That's the most brilliant idea ever!
I mean a man with a tanning bed that goes to Jamacian and a stack of porno has a lot going for him.

Carl: The early years.
Something like that.

Okay forget all that was said before.
A good spin-off for ATHF would be a Mooninites show!
I mean think of it, they had two episodes.
Damnit I'm gonna go write one right now.
A Mooninite spin off entitled: Mooninites and the Inferior Beings
Or not.

You can not beat the force of the sXe quad lazer!

JETBLACK87

05-30-2002, 07:46 PM

athf is stupid and they should never make more.

hello_lola

05-31-2002, 02:53 AM

Originally posted by fignuts16
how about a show where Kuwabara and Vegeta share an ampartment in New York? their next door neighbor could be hiei!

Wouldn't it be better if Hiei and Vegeta were roommates, so they could cash in on their similar appearances by having them get into all kinds of wacky mix-ups? ;)

Hyper_Anthony

05-31-2002, 03:01 AM

Brak and zorak already had 2 spinoffs.

That brak show that aried for a short time early last year, and the current one.

Umm... I'd like an ed spinoff.

bassist

05-31-2002, 05:18 AM

Originally posted by Hyper_Anthony
Brak and zorak already had 2 spinoffs.
I know... otherwise I wouldn't have posted that suggestion to this thread. I really would rather see new material than another spinoff.

-Big Ben

treehouse

05-31-2002, 10:16 AM

Carl from ATHF should get his own hour long show where he's a New York City police detective.

bassist

05-31-2002, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by Treehouse
Carl from ATHF should get his own hour long show where he's a New York City police detective.
We can call it NYPD Blue and premiere it to compete with ER and Law & Order over on rival network ABC, right? Hey, and mybe if we're lucky, we can create a character based off of little Ricky Schroeder from Silver Spoons...

But seriously, Carl would make that show a lot better if he replaced Dennis Green's character. I can just see him in the interrogation room...

"Now I'm gonna sit here and eat these bunnies until you're so disgusted that you confess..."

-Big Ben

JTurner954

05-31-2002, 01:01 PM

A Carl: The Early Years kind of show woule be cool. But, I would rather see a Coach McGurk spinoff.

RedTail

05-31-2002, 07:12 PM

how about a show where Kuwabara and Vegeta share an ampartment in New York? their next door neighbor could be hiei!

That's brilliant! The same voice actor could play them both (giggles). Throw in Hiei's Vegeta-like attitude and it's a great show! Maybe throw in the brainy-kid from PC as a queer. You got the ultimate show about nothing! Like Seinfeld, but... More twisted!

Carl should have is own show....at work and crusin for the ladies in his ride!

Damn! Another great idea! Carl's the man!

Okay forget all that was said before.
A good spin-off for ATHF would be a Mooninites show!
I mean think of it, they had two episodes.
Damnit I'm gonna go write one right now.
A Mooninite spin off entitled: Mooninites and the Inferior Beings
Or not.

I like the Mooninites a lot, but they'd be better off as a special guest on Space Ghost. I could see them vandalizing and looting ghost planet now...ah...

a Spike prequel would be the best you can get.

If the creators ever wanted to keep Bebop going, this would be the way to do it. Continuing the series from after CB would only tarnish it. That's somthing Wantanbe spoke of when he was interviewed and asked if they expect to continue the CB franchise. Best serious idea yet!

- RedTail

KingDead

05-31-2002, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by RedTail

If the creators ever wanted to keep Bebop going, this would be the way to do it. Continuing the series from after CB would only tarnish it.

I know I'm entering a forest of harmful sharp objects but...

Three words and a number: Star Wars Episode I

And judging by the reviews and three more and another number: Star Wars Episode II

RedTail

06-01-2002, 12:17 AM

I'm not going to argue w/ you when you diss the Star Wars prequels, but that's completely different from Bebop. Why?

- We're not looking at going back 50 or so years... Just a few.
- We're not watching some snotty kid trying to fake a British accent grow up. We're watching an adult Spike.
- We're still looking at a good deal of familiar faces from CB.
- There's lots of room for creativity since any hints about Spike's past in CB haven't seemed to alter an entire galaxy.
- Very interesting character development on Spike's part. We'll see some sides of him that have never been seen before. Remember, he isn't a tortured soul at this point.
- George Lucas aint writing this...

I had more, but I lost my train of thought. Just take these few points into consideration before trying to compare a CB Prequel to Star Wars.

- RedTail

treehouse

06-01-2002, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by bassist

We can call it NYPD Blue and premiere it to compete with ER and Law & Order over on rival network ABC, right?
ATHF Blue, or maybe NYPD Aqua

KingDead

06-01-2002, 12:50 AM

The point I was trying to make that a prequil can just as easily tarnish the well-established original.

I don't know...I just can't see a Spike prequil working beyond an episode in the origianal, or at the most (which would be pushing it), another movie. It seems more of a gimmick than anything...see a hero back when he was eeevilll. I think that any likeabilty the character had in the original would be destroyed in a prequil by showing what an evil bastard he was...besides, we know what Spike would have become if he stayed in the syndicate, being Vicious' protoge, Vicious. I would think the creators' would want to stick with focusing on Spike's angst and redemption. A whole prequil series showing him as what he broke away from would distract from the original.

Of course, I just feel that a prequil would be like eating the same meal day after day...yes, it tastes good and you liked it the first few times, but it grows old and you want something new. I think we'd seen enough of Spike in the original, how about focusing on the characters we know less about?

But then again, it's not being written by Lucas, so I may be talking out of my rear oriface.

Andy Mancini

06-01-2002, 01:06 AM

How about "Celeberty Gundam"? It's combines people love affair with of the most inane (in my opinion, anyways) concepts on TV, cheap, crappy reality shows, and Gundam! Who wouldn't just love to see everybody's favorite washed up stars like Chyna, Anna Nicole Smith, Bill Goldberg, or that guy that constantly said "Hi there" on "Welcome Back, Kotter" get their brains blown in (or, more pecisely, sucked in the vacuum of space, considering the "celeberties" don't get a mech of their very own) on late night TV?

bassist

06-01-2002, 04:13 AM

Originally posted by dj_gir
How about "Celeberty Gundam"? It's combines people love affair with of the most inane (in my opinion, anyways) concepts on TV, cheap, crappy reality shows, and Gundam!
Only if the first to die is the "Can you hear me now? Good." guy from Verizon...

-Big Ben

fignuts16

06-01-2002, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by bassist

Only if the first to die is the "Can you hear me now? Good." guy from Verizon...

-Big Ben

and how about Steve from dell or Clay Henry.

RedTail

06-01-2002, 09:59 PM

Well I guess we know why Jared lost all that weight... Yep, he's gonna kick some ass in a tricked out Gundam sporting a Subway Logo! I feel scared and confused now...

- RedTail

KingDead

06-01-2002, 10:14 PM

Yeah, I can see it now...

JARED: "Subway - Eat Fresh! As fresh as your pounded corpse is gonna be after I'm done with you!"

CARROTTOP: "Bring it on! And dail 1-800-COLLECT, which I'll be using to call your mother whe YOU die! And then I'm going to SLEEP with her!"

bassist

06-02-2002, 01:39 AM

Could this just be a port of "Celerbrity Deathmatch"? Maybe it's "Celebrity Deathmatch Goes to Japan" or "Celebrity Gundam Deathmatch?"

-Big Ben

randomguy

06-02-2002, 01:56 AM

Let's see... a Cowboy Bebop spinoff with VT from "Heavy Metal Queen", maybe a spinoff of Home Movies with Melissa (she never gets enough screentime, if you ask me) and perhaps a miniseries chroniciling the exploits of the MIA Sealab operative Black Debbie.

JTurner954

06-02-2002, 02:09 AM

Maybe a Deathmatch with the women from various Adult Swim (and Toonami) animes. Maybe have a match like Ryoko from Tenchi Muyo vs. Aisha from Outlaw Star.

randomguy

06-02-2002, 02:13 AM

Not a bad idea. How about Faye Valentine versus Paula Small? Clash of the purple-haired women.

Paula, FYI, could kick Faye's ass.

RedTail

06-02-2002, 02:52 AM

Nick Diamond: Hey Johnny, these anime nerds are starting to freak me out! I haven't seen this much grease since that tanker collided into Little Nicky Jr and his bike!

- RedTail

Askinno

06-02-2002, 04:51 AM

I personally would like to a spin off of Cowboy bebop but it would VT and her husband before he died that is. after all he is this great bounty hunter that everyones hurd of but the only thing we know about him is that he drinks Parary Osters (yea I know that I killed the spelling on that one!).

other than that I would like to see a show about Spark's Gumdam

maybe Gundam 2021...

Tim Vee

06-02-2002, 12:33 PM

THE HAPPY SMILEY ED SHOW: Ed deserves her own spin-off with Faye. Hey, it could work! They take on some of the oddest bounties ever, and I mean like Scud the Disposable Assasin or Deadpool-type stuff, and fall in love with each other! Progressive and fun! Dear lord, I've been jonesin' for another offbeat sci-fi comedy ever since the deaths of Invader Zim, Mystery Science Theater, and Futurama.

THE MULTI-CULTURE PALS: Hey, we saw 'em on Harvey Birdman, now let's see 'em in action! The finest group of minority superheroes in the world takes on such threats to tolerance as the Radioactive Bigot, Captain Racist, and Dr. Unfair Gay Stereotype!

Also, Coach McGurk, the Early Years would be cool.

-Tim Vee, Insane in the Briz-ane

JETBLACK87

06-02-2002, 02:49 PM

to Askinno. they already started one on the Bebop webpage I posted the link on this thread. and another wich would be good is a ANTONIO, CARLOS & JOBIN spinoff.

Cogliostro

06-02-2002, 04:15 PM

A new show with Coach McGurk and Carl together would be great :p Or a show with Brendon, Jason and their friend MeatWad lol those would be great :p

EinBebop

06-02-2002, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by Box Drink
what Adult Swim character would you most like to see have a spin off. I'm gonna say Edward from cowboy Bebop, with Ein as her trusted companion of coarse.

Or better yet... the EIN show! Ed can show up during sweeps.

Opaque

06-03-2002, 01:44 PM

Ein can't talk though, so what all could he do? He nedes Ed there to help him out and vica versa. Seriouslt though the Ed spinoff with Ein is the greasted idea ever, and yeah i know i thought it up... kind of.

JETBLACK87

06-03-2002, 02:28 PM

Ein can't talk though, so what all could he do? It could be a disney show with talking dogs. it would be just like......hmm what"s it like......oh hell on Earth.

EinBebop

06-03-2002, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by Box Drink
Ein can't talk though, so what all could he do? He nedes Ed there to help him out and vica versa. Seriouslt though the Ed spinoff with Ein is the greasted idea ever, and yeah i know i thought it up... kind of.

If that no-talent Snoopy can pull it off, it should be a cake-walk for Ein. :yakko:

JETBLACK87

06-03-2002, 05:48 PM

maybe he can since he's a deta dog. maybe he just chooses not to. maybe he only talks to Ed.

JETBLACK87

06-05-2002, 01:42 PM

Here's proof. (http://www.geocities.com/jetblack_87/cowein.html)

Opaque

06-06-2002, 02:01 PM

yeah but the cow thing was subtitles, you had to read. and besides that snoopy show had very little to do with snoopy.

Askinno

06-06-2002, 03:33 PM

Ein can't talk though, so what all could he do?

::starts talking like old Chinese wise man::

aww, how quickly we forget the lessons tought to us by the preview for Wild Horses.

lol

Beat

06-06-2002, 04:25 PM

A paradoy show like Sealab that lays into anime.

White_Debbie

06-06-2002, 08:59 PM

No, I've got the best spinoff..a show about Mardok the sun god, son of Ia, slayer of Tiamat. Mardok Totally rules (and he totally already knows!). I want Mardok to live inside ME! Gimme more Stimutacs!

JETBLACK87

06-07-2002, 10:12 AM

where you watching Stargate of scifi lastnight?

Wakman

06-07-2002, 11:23 AM

I believe that Jason (Home Movies) has good potential for a spin off. We don't know enough about him. If not Jason, then McGuirk.
"I've gotta make a choice. I can either quit binge drinking and do the stand up, or give up the stand up and just do the binge drinking, cause I like that better. Either way, I've gotta make a stand. Brendon, help me stand..." (funny).

unknown hero

06-07-2002, 12:30 PM

ed from cowboy bebop definitley deserves a follow up role in her own series, although the concept behind it would have to be pretty farfetched. it would be cool if the had a series based on one of the minor characters, like the guy who gave swordfish to spike (originally used for racing)