View Full Version : Review of "Hot Springs Planet Tenrai"
Cactusjack1999
04-22-2002, 03:38 PM
Yeah I finally found a copy of it on KaZaA and after pleeding with my dad to allow me to stay on to get it I've seen what Cartoon Network won't want you to see. (Note this review contain's an insane amount of spoilers about the episode, if you don't want ot read them, I suggest you click "Back" now and go buy the DVD. If not scroll down)
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Let's start with hte review:
Synopsis : Gene and crew head to the Tourist planet Tenrai in search of some well needed R&R and Caster shells.
Pros:
- Explains the caster shell system
- Fanservice gallore!!
- Very comedic parts
Cons:
- Lots of Fan service (Damn soccer moms)
- Zero in the way of action.
Full review:
Great episode. A bit too much nudity for me, but anyone that live that kind of thing will like this episode. Thankfully the episode is a bit short.
Oh and there is NO WAY IN HELL this will ever be shown on US television. The nudity and perversion is too much a part of the episode to have it cut out, which would ruin the story line.
stanteau
04-22-2002, 04:03 PM
I fail to see the nudity eveyrone raves about.Lots of bikini's,2 brief things of Aisha,and Suzuka's butt.The one Tenchi episode had WAY more fanservice than this.The only thing keeping it off Toonami is the whole storyline revolves around getting a nude clip of that girl but get some digital bikini's and this would ahve no toruble on ASA.
KingKoopa
04-22-2002, 04:08 PM
It's true that it could rather easily air on Adult Swim, but some people underrate its nudity. There is one scene where a girl strips so Gene can get caster shells, and another where three girls are rubbing their boobs against Jim's face (maybe not exactly, but pretty close. And damn those swimsuits are tight). I'd say that it is a bit risque, and it would be difficult to air it.
stanteau
04-22-2002, 04:25 PM
you never see any actual nudity form the girl with the caster though,hell Faye shows more skin.
The swimsuits...again Faye shows more fanservice.
I don't remember the rubbing boobs on Gene's face part but sounds like it could be fairly edited out.
Sheamon
04-22-2002, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by KingKoopa
It's true that it could rather easily air on Adult Swim, but some people underrate its nudity.
No, its the exact opposite. People have been over-rating this episode since Outlaw Star's first run. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The only nudity is
A Sylgreen's butt for about 2 seconds.
Aisha's boobs for about 2 seconds.
Suzuka's butt for about 2 seconds.
A far way from the 'The whole episode is an excuse to get naked' rumors that were all over the place since the show first came on Toonami. As you can probably imagine, it was rather dissappointing when I finally saw the episode. If the other 20+ minutes of the episode, which had no nudity at all whatsoever bothered you, then I'd say stop right now in regards to Bebop. You can't say seeing a scantily clad Faye tied up (Gateway Shuffle, Jupiter Jazz), leaning over so you can see down her shirt (Sympathy for the Devil, Cowboy Funk), having a guy with his hand up her pants for a few seconds (Honky Tonk Woman), a close up on her boobs(Ganymede Elegy) or the rather provocative shots of her at Gren's place in Jupiter Jazz are much tamer than anything on Outlaw Star.
Its certainly a "No." for Toonami, but I think it would be a no brainer for ASA with 6 seconds worth of editing to take out the extremely little nudity there actually is.
The position I've always held about why I wasn't very happy about it being excluded from Toonami is because its a rather important episode. The episode completely explains the casters, their origins, how they work, and provides us with the 'super' shells that Gene has in the finale. If it was hard for me, someone who was 19 when I first saw the finale, to understand the whole caster thing in the finale since they left out ep 23, imagine how hard it could be for the 7-12 year olds that make up the majority of Toonami's audience. Although it would have to be severly edited, I think an actual Toonami airing would be for the best. Although since it seems OS is off Toonami for good, its a non issue now.
stanteau
04-22-2002, 06:48 PM
Thanks Sheamon,you seem to be one the few with your head on straight around here.
Cactusjack1999
04-22-2002, 07:07 PM
Digital Swimsuit's could work for the part with aisha but the whole stripping video can't have them on.
It would kinda seem retarded to have her take off her bra and panties and still have a swimsuit underneath.
I've watched hte epsode like 4 times looking where they could edit and remove parts. There is alot to remove and edit but it would lose a ton of the meaning from some parts.
stanteau
04-22-2002, 07:08 PM
are you editing by Toonami or AS standards?Like I said,Faye shows more fanservice.
Sheamon
04-22-2002, 07:10 PM
If the block lived up to that ridiculous disclaimer, the whole ep should be on there, strip scene and all. Aisha's boobs would be the only thing censored. Of course we all know they say '18 up' but really mean '9 and under'. There's nothing in that ep that someone under the age of 15 or 16 couldn't take.
I have to agree with Sheamon. There's plenty of fanservice, but virtually no nudity. Hell, Tenchi has more nudity in the bathroom than this did in the entire episode.
The only shot I can think of that would explicitly need to be cut is when Aisha shows off for Gene, which is all of two or three seconds that can easily be cut without actually hurting the scene. After all, from the dialogue and Gene's reaction, we know exactly what he sees.
Regarding the strip-tease, well, we never actually see anything revealing. Though there may be a bit more than CN is willing to show, I doubt it based on how little Faye gets by with wearing on occasion. Put this episode on after midnight, cut the few seconds with Aisha's breasts, and it's fine TV-14 material.
stanteau
04-22-2002, 08:56 PM
What is with this board and overblowing anime content?
And the disclaimer is pretty dumb.I was watching ATHF last night and my mom was asking me about the disclaimer (which is pretty funny since we just watched Six Feet Under an hour beforehand) and I had to go into the big explanatiopn.Can't they just say mature audiences instead of the 18 y/o thing?
KingKoopa
04-22-2002, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by stanteau
Thanks Sheamon,you seem to be one the few with your head on straight around here. I know it could be shown pretty easily, but I think it would be pretty tough to take care of some of the things. You fail to mention the barbie doll nudity which is placed everywhere in the episode. You also fail to mention Jim in the pool with those women (who already have swimsuits on). I think it could probably get on Adult Swim with some editing, like cutting the ass shots and the Aisha bit, and shortening/cropping the striptease, but still, you're underrating the content of the episode.
I'm not saying its not an important episode. I'm not saying it has more than it does. I'm just saying that you're underrating the content a little.
Zechs
04-22-2002, 09:54 PM
I looked it up and counted about 19 frames. HA do you even know how many frames are in one animated show. (Depending on how long it is.) I'm quite sure there are more( not many though) so if they cut out those frames you could still get the gest of the show.
stanteau
04-22-2002, 09:55 PM
the barbie doll nudity is hardly anything to get offended at,it's a suit,I think that part could get on Toonami even
Zechs
04-22-2002, 10:02 PM
As for that content comment take one look at one Tenchi ep and you'll find even more. Peopel are overreacting to this ep.
hardway35
04-22-2002, 10:45 PM
One question for Cactusjack1999. How was the caster system explain? Did they explain the different type of caster guns? That Ron guy had a very different looking caster with the ability to shield the user from a caster sot at the expense of a chambered bullet. I know that the rounds are like a spell in a bullet type thing that drain a the users power, 3 of them can also most kill the user if fired back-to-back-to-back. I would download it off of kazaa, but I have Dail-up and my computer has...problems with avi files.
Sheamon
04-22-2002, 11:18 PM
You fail to mention the barbie doll nudity which is placed everywhere in the episode.
What are you talking about? Outlaw Star doesn't even have barbie doll nudity like in Evangelion. Thats clothing you're thinking of.
You also fail to mention Jim in the pool with those women (who already have swimsuits on).
If that can't get on a block with disclaimers saying 'no one under 18' then there's no hope for Adult Swim and they should just give up on it now.
I think it could probably get on Adult Swim with some editing, like cutting the ass shots and the Aisha bit, and shortening/cropping the striptease, but still, you're underrating the content of the episode.
How am I underrating it? Cut topless Aisha and the butt shots(if at all. If it was up to me, I'd allow any nudity above the belt if it was just nudity and nothing else). Cut the 2 second butt shot in the strip scene and nothing else. There's 10 seconds out of 20+ minutes of the episode. Everything else would get by with ease on ASA. Face the facts, there's not that much offensive content in the first place for anyone over the age of 15.
Originally posted by hardway35
One question for Cactusjack1999. How was the caster system explain? Did they explain the different type of caster guns? That Ron guy had a very different looking caster with the ability to shield the user from a caster sot at the expense of a chambered bullet. I know that the rounds are like a spell in a bullet type thing that drain a the users power, 3 of them can also most kill the user if fired back-to-back-to-back. I would download it off of kazaa, but I have Dail-up and my computer has...problems with avi files.
They don't explain the guns, but they do talk about the shells quite a bit. The gist seems to be that all the power is in the shell, and the gun doesn't matter... it's just a mechanism for activating and directing the shell's power. So I'd say anybody can make a caster gun, it's the shells that are unique.
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