Which Mecha series would you like to be on ASA and edits possibility...

[Zapages]

I like to see

Zeta Gundam <--very few edits
Turn A Gundam <--some episodes espically when Ronin finds the Tun A Gundam

Macross/Robotech <--Uncut
Neon Genisis Evalegion <--paritially
Teknoman <--possibility on Toonami

any others.........

[Mecha Washu]

Sorry but NGE won't ever be able to air on Adult Swim in the U.S.

[Wilco911]

It'll also be years before the whole legal fiasco with Macross/Robotech is cleared up...if ever. :(

[KingKoopa]

Originally posted by Mecha Washu
Sorry but NGE won't ever be able to air on Adult Swim in the U.S. Why do you say that? Because everyone else does? NGE's content is overrated, it could, and will, air on AS rather easily. Australia is proof of that.

[Zapages]

I agree with King Koopa NGE could air and I won't be surprised in the Winter of 2003 ASA gets this Schedule

Yu Yu Haskoho <sp>

Cowboy Bebop or Trigun

Z Gundam or Mobile Suit Gundam continued

Neon Genesis Evalegion

Teknoman

Robotech/Macross

[Melon109]

I would like to see Macross Plus and Bubblegum Crisis 2040 on AS.

[Manga]

Robotech/macros by FARRRR

I remember being in elementry school and walking home really fast so I could come home by 3:30 to watch robotech on cartoon network. I forget if it was toonami or if it was still just the 15 minute cartoons block with no real name.

[stanteau]

God I hate how EVA's content is overblown.There's like 3 shots of extreme violence and it's all mech violence,there's no nudity except a butt crack in episode 5 and some barbie doll crap that can easily be clouded over,it flashes by so fats you can't make it out anyway,and sex is nothing you wouldn't see on Dawson's creek,and Buffy is more religiously offensive.

[Kataclysm5]

I heard somewhere that G Gundam was coming to toonami, has anyone else heard this?

[KingKoopa]

Originally posted by Zapages
I agree with King Koopa NGE could air and I won't be surprised in the Winter of 2003 ASA gets this Schedule

Yu Yu Haskoho <sp>

Cowboy Bebop or Trigun

Z Gundam or Mobile Suit Gundam continued

Neon Genesis Evalegion

Teknoman

Robotech/Macross That sounds right, but I don't know if they'd replace Cowboy Bebop yet, and Trigun is extremely likely. I don't know about Teknoman, but other than that it sounds extremely likely.

[Gundam_Warrior]

Actully Teknoman is Tekkaman in Japan to be correct and I think it should be on ASA unedited. Any Gundam would be great also on ASA. I just like giant mobile suit or robot blasting away each other or beating the crap out of each other with a good cast of charaters.

[Beat]

Originally posted by KingKoopa
Why do you say that? Because everyone else does? NGE's content is overrated, it could, and will, air on AS rather easily. Australia is proof of that.

No it won't. And it's not because of the content, which is a factor too, but because of the lega bickering over the show. Watch. TNN will buy it and use it for their own adult animation block.

[Jake]

Isn't that some really old anime? I think I might have caught an episode of it before.

[Gundam_Warrior]

Yes Teaknoman aired on UPN along with Sailor Moon and Battletech around 1995. Unlike Sailor Moon the other two shows were never given a second chance but Teknoman was under Saban Entertainment at that time so Disney now owns it so chances of it coming ever to Toonami or ASA is slim now that I think about it but maybe through some miricle. This page maybe could explian it better than me. http://anduin.eldar.org/~brad/anime/teknoman/

[Zapages]

another site

http://www.tekno-mania.com

My favorite...

[RedTail]

They need to run the entire UC Saga in sequential order:

Mobile Suit Gundam
Mobile Suit Gundam: 08TH MS Team
Mobile Suit Gundam: 0080
Mobile Suit Gundam: 0083
Z Gundam
Gundam ZZ
Char's Counterattack
Gundam F91
V Gundam
G-Saviour

Some of those I believe aren't even dubbed though. Hopefully, they'll be dubbed soon. Then they need to run the UC Saga continuously on MR or somthing the summer of 2004.

- RedTail

[stanteau]

Every time I hear about the so called Gainax-gag order against censorship I always say "show me a site" and never get one.I am 100% completely convinced that this BS is made up by fans.I ahve yet to see an officialy Gainax site saying that no show can air censored.Anotehr thing is in Japan,the TV series was censored.The EVA-03 fight was trimmed a little,and later on in the series they darkened the light to hide Asuka's breasts when she's in the tub.Plus WOWOW aired the movies and took out a few of the more violent images from the fight scene.Even so,I truly believe EVA can get by with a TV-14.If Buffy can,EVA can.

[Opaque]

We would all like to see some NGE, but i don't feel that it's ever gonna happen. Suxor.

[Andy Mancini]

Here's something bizarre...

How about "Dual"? It's a nice combination of mechs and Tenchi, and not many people in the US seem to know what it is. I think that whatever they bring in, it should be something that Americans wouldn't know very well, like they did with "Yu Yu Hakusho" and "Big O".

[Beat]

Originally posted by RedTail
They need to run the entire UC Saga in sequential order:

Mobile Suit Gundam
Mobile Suit Gundam: 08TH MS Team
Mobile Suit Gundam: 0080
Mobile Suit Gundam: 0083
Z Gundam
Gundam ZZ
Char's Counterattack
Gundam F91
V Gundam
G-Saviour

Some of those I believe aren't even dubbed though. Hopefully, they'll be dubbed soon. Then they need to run the UC Saga continuously on MR or somthing the summer of 2004.

- RedTail

Everything after 0083 isn't dubbed. I say that the main series' should be shown, from MSG to V Gundam.

[Invader_Spooch]

id like to see Gasaraki, even though its probably not likely.

[D.Shaffer]

Well besides the fact that I think Neon Genesis Evangellydonut is one of the most overrated anime series ever, I think one BIG factor against it's inclusion in the CN lineup hasnt been mentioned. Namely, all the religious allusions. These would likely have to be cut out and you wouldnt have much of a show left afterwards. Nevermind how sucky the general ending is.

What I WOULD like to see is
Dual
Some of the more 'classic' albeit cheesy shows like Mazinger
Vandread

[Gundam_Warrior]

I've said it once and I'll say it agian. The current #1 anime in Japan- Full Metal Panic

[stanteau]

Buffy has 9 times the religion that Evangelion does and in EVA it's not even religious,****,they even say that the angels aren't from god (the one time god is mentioned in the whole series).There's some cross shaped explosions (and those even stop around episode 5) and even if those are such a big problem simply edit off the sides to make a giant straight line.And about the editing thing,show me proof that Gainax won't let anything be edited,I need proof to believe that crap.EVA was even edited in Japan on TV,and the movies were as well plus Mahormatic was edited for Japanese TV,as was the Anime Bubble Bubble Love Hour.This Gainax not allowing edited crap on TV is pure bull**** made up by elitists.

[VinceA]

The current #1 anime in Japan- Full Metal Panic
Well ADV's got the US license for it but ADV hasn't ever put anything on CN (yet).

[Random otaku]

I'd like to see MSG,Tekkaman Blade2,and maybe the orginal Bubble gum crisis.

[EmoKark]

nadesico and dual

[Protogen]

i would have to say

Vandread
Dual!
Trigun
Gundam X
BubbleGum Crisis (either one)
Nadesico
You're Under Arrest
and
Pull Patlabor off the internet and put it on tv where it belongs

and for the love of god get movies too like Iria, Mononoke, Knocking on Heavens Door, or Project A-Ko (i know they will NEVER play Akira)

finally for those interested there seems to be a new season of Zoids playing weekdays @ 6 am i am not sure but i think it is a remake of the original series (could be wrong i have only seen 2 episodes you try waking up that early)

[Protogen]

Originally posted by Melon109
I would like to see Macross Plus and Bubblegum Crisis 2040 on AS.

thay play both of those on the Action Channel every once and awhile that how i got my copy of Macross +

[SpaceCub]

Macross

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"Maaaaaaaaaatlock!"

[Zero Angel]

I am sorry but i must play advocate in the defense of the great series which is known as Eva. it is probably one of the biggest earth movers in anime during the 90's and i still hold it to be one of the greatest done. now with that being said i shall just comment on something that someone had posted recently.

Originally posted by stanteau
Buffy has 9 times the religion that Evangelion does and in EVA it's not even religious,****,they even say that the angels aren't from god (the one time god is mentioned in the whole series).

let me ask you something...did you watch this entire series? thats one and two, did you understand everything that was handed to you? not to be snide but i seriously doubt that you had garnered much in watching any of the episodes you may have seen. God (as known in several major religons) is used heavly in this anime as both a symbol and referenced to as a character, playing sort of the unseen antagonist. how can you not say that Eva isnt religious? sure most of the religon can be chalked up to symbolic gestures but even so the images are so strong and the messages so clear that the Christian Coalition would have a field day with this one. ill just throw out some religious references right now and we shall see if they are or are not part of the show in any way...

Adam - the first man (from the book of Genisis in Gideon's Bible)
Lilith - from Judeism (the first wife of Adam, said to have become estranged)
Eva - ok a little harder here but estentially...Eve (the second wife of Adam and the 'first' woman who took on the original sin and tempted Adam)
Dead Sea Scrolls - ancient scrolls said to contain the epitaph of the end of the world
Path of Sephiroth (also known as the Tree of Life or Ygdrasil) - the path by which man has to ascend the throne of God
Lorenz Keel - he is a character said to be the wandering jew from mythos
Angels - the seriphem of God. the choir of heaven
Magi - the three wisemen that seeked out Christ at his birth with gifts of gold and incense

that is just a small example of the material, there are constant symbols that would be considered blasphemous throughout the series as well. all of the angels have names derived from minor gods in the mythos of Judeism and even the Eva's themselves are slightly derived from tales of ogre demons that have their roots in the mythos as well.


Originally posted by stanteau
There's some cross shaped explosions (and those even stop around episode 5) and even if those are such a big problem simply edit off the sides to make a giant straight line.

ummm...have you seen a lot of this show again? have you even seen EoE? ok...they show that form of attack a few times in the show, not just at the begining either.

further just to let you all know how they would absolutly not be able to show this series on american tv yet is the disturbing material it deals with. you have some seriously ****ed up chars here folks. and the fights are going to have to undergo some serious editing...hell the fight with Sachiel at the begining is going to have to get cut a whole hell of a lot. then there is the fight with Bartiel...and Zemiel...and then after all that you still have those fights that dont even really have that much gore to them but are just sick and twisted...like Asuka in Eva-02 vs Angel # 15. her mind gets raped by that nasty...all to the Halleluea Chorus from Messiah...now how twisted is that? dont even get me started on the relationships that all the characters have with one another...

all in all it would be a very very very bad idea for CN to show this one on any of their time slots...that is until the attitude of the american public changes to become more tolerant for such material on television nationwide.

[Dogasu]

RedTail Wrote:

They need to run the entire UC Saga in sequential order:

Mobile Suit Gundam
Mobile Suit Gundam: 08TH MS Team
Mobile Suit Gundam: 0080
Mobile Suit Gundam: 0083
Z Gundam
Gundam ZZ
Char's Counterattack
Gundam F91
V Gundam
G-Saviour

I don't think they should. In fact, I'm really against Adult Swim airing Gundam 0083. I mean, Gundam is a Toonami show, it should stay on Toonami. Fans shouldn't have to jump from Toonami to Adult Swim back to Toonami just to catch all the series.

I mean, if Cartoon Network REALLY wanted to have a Gundam show on Adult Swim Action, they should've shown the Midnight Run version of Gundam Wing. It's edited to TV-14 standards (so none of this "it's stupid for them to put these warnings before each show when they're edited down to Toonami level) and it would be nice to see the show considering they haven't aired it in almost two years.

Besides, isn't G-Saviour that live-action Gundam movie? What would that be doing on Cartoon Network?

Protogen said:

and for the love of god get movies too like Iria, Mononoke, Knocking on Heavens Door, or Project A-Ko (i know they will NEVER play Akira)

I think Sci-Fi Channel still has the rights to Iria, and Princess Mononoke is owned by Disney, so Cartoon Network can't touch it. Knocking on Heaven's Door is still in the process of being dubbed and they're trying to release it in theatres, so it'll be at least a few years before it would air on TV. And Project A-KO...um...I think Sci-Fi Channel still has that one, too.

Anyone else remember way back when, before the days of Toonami, when Cartoon Network aired several anime movies? They aired Vampire Hunter D and a few other movies and edited them to pieces? They cut out most of the fight against the vampire at the end of VHD (this was before the days of digital bikinis and the like)? I know I'm not the only one who remembers seeing this...

I think CN should air the Macross Plus movie (there wouldn't be TOO much to edit out), Metropolis (though it would be years before they could get the rights to air it), maybe the Utena movie (maybe to see if viewers would be interested in seeing the series on ASA?), and something serious like Barefoot Gen or Grave of the Fireflies (just to show that all anime isn't magical girls and space battles). Unfortunately, I really can't think of any American movies that would work--I've seen Heavy Metal and that's pretty...porn-like, from what I remember. Um...the Uncut Batman Beyond movie? Nah--there's nothing in the unedited version they couldn't air on the afternoon Toonami block. Maybe Titan A.E.? I dunno.

And this is just Adult Swim Action! I can't even think of any movies to air on Adult Swim Comedy, other than Bebe's Kids ^_^

[Zero Angel]

i dont think that CN would show this movie even if it was on AS. the reason for this is much in the same light as why CCS will never be shown on CN. the relationships in this anime are far to taboo for american tv. you have things ranging from homosexuality to incest in this one, and for the most part...it isnt subtle in the least.

[stanteau]

Dude,I've seen EVA more times than you can possibly count.Color me fanboy.

And all the crap you mentioned are obscure references,mostly made by fans.Hell,Lilith isn't even acknowldged by most sects of religion.Same goes for the dead Sea scrolls (whcih are HEAVILY innacurate in the show BTW).There is absolutely NO proof to ay Keel is the wandering jew.Magi,just a name,nothing more.3 wise men,3 wise computers,just a small reference.Finally Anno has even said people takle the religious references way too far.I mean EVA=Eve?That makes little to no sense.I suggest you get away from Rossman (who is a lying sack ofc rap who makes up pretty much everything he says).

And I think EoE could air as well with a TV14.The Rei nudity is much like the stuff that's being censored in Pilot Candidate.The violence is no worse than the last 2 Bebop episodes.There's a lot more implied death of course that may need to be edited (such as the flamethrower).Religion,once again watch Buffy or Angel,WAY WAY WAY more religious stuff including one character playing the devil among other things.Hell,South Park has a character named Jesus who plays Jesus Christ,they even went as far as to mock god by making him a dragon creature.People make WAY WAY WAY too much out of EVA's content,especially the religious part..

[Kenshin Himura]

I wuld love to see Neon Genesis Evangelion, but it will never air on U.S. Television.

[Zero Angel]

Originally posted by stanteau
Dude,I've seen EVA more times than you can possibly count.Color me fanboy.

ok fanboy. and i have seen Eva quite a few times as well...

Originally posted by stanteau
And all the crap you mentioned are obscure references,mostly made by fans.Hell,Lilith isn't even acknowldged by most sects of religion.Same goes for the dead Sea scrolls (whcih are HEAVILY innacurate in the show BTW).There is absolutely NO proof to ay Keel is the wandering jew.Magi,just a name,nothing more.3 wise men,3 wise computers,just a small reference.Finally Anno has even said people takle the religious references way too far.I mean EVA=Eve?That makes little to no sense.I suggest you get away from Rossman (who is a lying sack ofc rap who makes up pretty much everything he says).

well of coarse...but the point i was getting at was it was there...and the symbolism that it represents would get lost in the editing. and yes...Eva and Eve. think about it. Eva was created from...what else? Adam. there ya go. and yes people do take it a little to far in thinking that is what the show is all about, the religious aspects i mean, but it is still all there. you cant deny it even if it plays a side role to the psychological aspects of the show. either way, it would have to be one huge coincidence for them to have had all of this done and then to suddenly say 'no...thats not what we intended at all' seriously...how blind can one person be?

Originally posted by stanteau
And I think EoE could air as well with a TV14.The Rei nudity is much like the stuff that's being censored in Pilot Candidate.The violence is no worse than the last 2 Bebop episodes.There's a lot more implied death of course that may need to be edited (such as the flamethrower).

ummm...and what of Asuka's fight with the Eva series? that entire thing would have to be edited out...not to mention what happened to her afterwords, impaled on those pikes (crucified if you will) disemboweled and partially eaten? i dont think that Air would survive as anything more then a 10 minute episode if they cut it down for a TV 14 rating.

Originally posted by stanteau
Religion,once again watch Buffy or Angel,WAY WAY WAY more religious stuff including one character playing the devil among other things.Hell,South Park has a character named Jesus who plays Jesus Christ,they even went as far as to mock god by making him a dragon creature.People make WAY WAY WAY too much out of EVA's content,especially the religious part..

and you want to know something...Southpark is being fought tooth and claw by a whole crap load of angry people that it offends. Buffy and Angel? childrens shows compared to what Eva offers up...and Southpark? well as i said it is being fought against. do you think CN would want to deal with what Trey Parker and Matt Stone deal with? for some reason i dont think so...

[stanteau]

SP has been in the news ebcause it's heavily advertised as a dirty as **** show.AS is hardly advertised at all and so far hasn't had one thing against it on any PTC orinization.Besides,SP and the shield still have a mountain of advertisers.There's bigger fish to fry than a small block of TVPG rated shows with no advertising on late night.

i dont think that Air would survive as anything more then a 10 minute episode if they cut it down for a TV 14 rating.

The Auska fight could be easily aired.Edit the blood,the quick shot of her fist going through the one EVA's head/the two bodies.The impailing is all shadows meaning little problems there (unless they'd wanna remove the few frames that show Asuka's arm splitting).The rest of the episode is no worse than an average Bebop episode violence-wise.The Rei nudity like I said is just like the PC nudity so is easily editable.

either way, it would have to be one huge coincidence for them to have had all of this done and then to suddenly say 'no...thats not what we intended at all' seriously...how blind can one person be?

People MAKE EVA religious.It is not that religious,if at all.It has a few words in it,and even the stuff based on DSC are completely wrong.Take the Lance ofr instance.It's a name,nothing more.It's a few hundred feet tall,Jesus must of been one tall bastard for that to be the Lance that so many retarted fanboys claim it to be.

And ADV translated the angles name to angles,it's actually disciple.People make EVA religious.

[Dogasu]

Zero Angel wrote:

i dont think that CN would show this movie even if it was on AS. the reason for this is much in the same light as why CCS will never be shown on CN. the relationships in this anime are far to taboo for american tv. you have things ranging from homosexuality to incest in this one, and for the most part...it isnt subtle in the least.

Yeah, CN does seem to have a problem with homosexuality (that edit in Cowboy Bebop was unbelievably lame), but maybe they could still air it. I mean, shows on MTV with a TV-PG or a TV-14 rating are allowed to have gay characters--from the Real World to Dismissed to Undressed and the like--so why can't Cartoon Network?

[Zero Angel]

Originally posted by stanteau
The Auska fight could be easily aired.Edit the blood,the quick shot of her fist going through the one EVA's head/the two bodies.The impailing is all shadows meaning little problems there (unless they'd wanna remove the few frames that show Asuka's arm splitting).The rest of the episode is no worse than an average Bebop episode violence-wise.The Rei nudity like I said is just like the PC nudity so is easily editable.

how are they going to edit the Eva series yanking out Eva-02's intestines? i would like to know...also, most of the fights in Eva get that violent...remember the fight with Bartiel? and afterwards when Shinji is finally emerging in 01 how are they going to edit out what finally happened to Asuka? are they just going to show Shinji screaming at nothing? that is what they would have to do...

Originally posted by stanteau
People MAKE EVA religious.It is not that religious,if at all.It has a few words in it,and even the stuff based on DSC are completely wrong.Take the Lance ofr instance.It's a name,nothing more.It's a few hundred feet tall,Jesus must of been one tall bastard for that to be the Lance that so many retarted fanboys claim it to be.

um...like i said. its symbolism. the fact that it is supposed to symbolize it is what the creators were going for. much like the Dead Sea scrolls, they arent the real Dead Sea scrolls but they call them that for what they entail. much like the Lance of Longinus.

Originally posted by stanteau
And ADV translated the angles name to angles,it's actually disciple.People make EVA religious.

and if you want to get really technical...the original name for the Angels was Apostle. now...ADV changed that for the fact that they were trying to be a little more kosher.

[randomguy]

And this is just Adult Swim Action! I can't even think of any movies to air on Adult Swim Comedy, other than Bebe's Kids ^_^

*Shudder*

[anime_fan]

a char's counter attack special would be nice,and more gundam,cowboy bebop and pilot candidate.

[stanteau]

VERY few of any EVA fights get very violent.Hell,few are more than a minute long.The only ones that border real violent are the EVA-03 fight,the one where Shinji is in the EVA (which can be edited simply),and the one angle that shoots the paper things and even those aren't as bloody as a few Bebop episodes.

And the intestines thing,just remove the frames.