Playstation 3 Revealed

[Vigo Sprax]

Hey Video Game fans, someone got a scoop on the new PS3, including pictures & an interview with Sony. You can check it out here. (http://www.misinformer.com/archive/01-01/15.html)

[mxyzptlk]

playstation is the most evil company ever and i cant stand their systems. i am a sega and nintendo man.

[Clayface]

Originally posted by mxyzptlk
playstation is the most evil company ever and i cant stand their systems. i am a sega and nintendo man.

You poor, poor man you.

[Vigo Sprax]

Originally posted by mxyzptlk
playstation is the most evil company ever and i cant stand their systems. i am a sega and nintendo man.

Did you look at the link...?

And playstation isn't a "company". I've never even heard of Sony reffered to as "evil", I mean geeze...you owe a lot to the technological developments they've made. Calling a company, that started with nothing, in a war torn country, and became one of the leading consumer electronics producers evil is uncalled for - even if you don't like a console they make.

[I.R Joey]

You shouldn't be so jaded Myx. There's alot of good stuff on the Sony consoles anyway...

This isn't at all suprisingy to me. Companies often start developing consoles half way through a present consoles life. I predict that the size of console generations is about to shrink from 3-4 years.

BTW Are you sure it isn't just the PS3 chip?

[Clayface]

Originally posted by I.R Joey

BTW Are you sure it isn't just the PS3 chip?

LMAO! Joey, go look at the link!

[The Mad Hatter]

Sony is evil? Where did you come up with that one? Most huge corporations do some callous things, but Sony isn't nearly as evil as, say, Microsoft... :)

Heh. I liked the shot of the "prototype..."

[Vigo Sprax]

Yeah, I never intended for this to be a console debate....I just thought the link was funny! :D

[Calhoun07]

I was hoping that this wouldn't have turned out to be real! Thanks for the link! It was good for a chuckle!

[Bird Boy]

Originally posted by mxyzptlk
playstation is the most evil company ever and i cant stand their systems. i am a sega and nintendo man.


I'm with you. I don't hate Sony. I just HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE Playstation.. sorry for the playstation lovers..I just don't like it..
I'm readin that article....LOL!
-BB

[mxyzptlk]

no playstation 3

[I.R Joey]

I'm sorry I didn't even bother to read the link. However, I did here last year that the components of the PS3 where being collected.

[Clayface]

Originally posted by Bird_Boy



I'm with you. I don't hate Sony. I just HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE Playstation.. sorry for the playstation lovers..I just don't like it..



Kids these day. :rolleyes:

[The Mad Hatter]

Okay, now I'm really curious. Why all the hate toward the PlayStation?

(Not that I'm a Sony fan-boy or anything, I'm just wondering.)

[mxyzptlk]

i dont know their is just something about playstation to me that makes it suck. maybe the fact that saturn died so quickly and playstation is still kickin when i personally liked saturn more that is just one reason of many.

[Clayface]

Originally posted by mxyzptlk
i dont know their is just something about playstation to me that makes it suck. maybe the fact that saturn died so quickly and playstation is still kickin when i personally liked saturn more that is just one reason of many.

So its a personal vendetta rather than a question of the product itself?

[mxyzptlk]

partly and i just do not like graphics or controls of the original.

[Clayface]

Originally posted by mxyzptlk
partly and i just do not like graphics or controls of the original.

What do you mean by not liking the graphics? Different games have different graphics, so that's not platform specific. And by controls do you mean the controllers, or the way games were programmed to control?

[mxyzptlk]

their just somethin bought it.

[Clayface]

Originally posted by mxyzptlk
their just somethin bought it.

Well, that certainly explains it! :rolleyes:

[mxyzptlk]

sorry if i did not hand it to u on a silver platter.

[Clayface]

You didn't hand me anything - not even a crumb on a napkin! LOL!

[mxyzptlk]

i dont think i have to take this.

[Clayface]

Originally posted by mxyzptlk
i dont think i have to take this.

Dude, I'm just joking with ya.

[mxyzptlk]

so am i although i do not like playstation.

[Scythemantis]

I dont get why anyone likes any specific system...its the GAMES,not the system....the system makes no difference whatsoever.If I like a game,I play it,I dont care what its on....its all 100% the same to me

[Clayface]

Originally posted by Sting chameleon
I dont get why anyone likes any specific system...its the GAMES,not the system....the system makes no difference whatsoever.If I like a game,I play it,I dont care what its on....its all 100% the same to me

I agree and I disagree. I do agree that games make the big difference - but I think the games are integral to the system. For example, I never saw much in the way of games on any of the Nintendo systems that got my interest, thus I never owned one. And until the PS2 came out, I couldn't play DVDs on my game system. Now, of course, that's becoming more common, but still, it was a BIG difference at the time - and that's a system difference, not a game difference. Thus, it makes a lot of sense to me to like a specific system.

[Vigo Sprax]

Yes, with things like DVD playback, internet access, digital file management, etc... being added to consoles you can have valid reasons for preffering one console over another. Not to mention the PS2, when stood vertical, kicks everyone else's butt design wise.

[Bird Boy]

reasons I don't like playstation:

1)CD loading. It takes forever in a day to play a game on that system. Your time is up in the stores before the game even loads.
2)I never liked, or wanted, any of the titles coming for any PS system (aside from Vengence...which is now coming out for GameCube as well! :)
3)I hate the control design. It's too complicated. Especially the one w/ 2 joysticks in the middle...
4)I never liked the design of it.
5)All of my "real life" friends favor Playstation over any other system. They don't like Nintendo, because Playstation puts out "better games". Which is reason enough for me to hate it.
6)I just generally hate Playstation.. it became too popular too fast.

Reason I don't mind Dreamcast or the upcoming GameCube:

There CD loading is sooooo much faster. GameCube's game boots up like a cartridge would.

I played PS2 at the store, and none of its titles appealed to me. It just looked like a boring system. I need a system with characters I've known for a long time. Crash Banicoot..nah, I don't like him enough. Mario, Luigi, the whole Nintendo game..I love those guys. i grew up with Mario and Sonic..so thats why I like Dreamcast (I didn't like it at first..mainly because Sonic Adventure was so easy..but it's other games proved to be better!). I even borrowed a PSX from my neighbor, I played it once. and that was it. He gave me like 20 diff. games, and I played about 5 of them, and I couldn't take it anymore.

THAT is why I hate Playstation.

-BB

[Psycho Fox]

Originally posted by mxyzptlk
i dont know their is just something about playstation to me that makes it suck. maybe the fact that saturn died so quickly and playstation is still kickin when i personally liked saturn more that is just one reason of many.
Look I am a Sega fan too but I have to admit while Sega is generally good at making hardware,from time to time they make mistakes. Like putting the pause buttion on the SMS or their humiliating entry into the 8-bit computer market in the early 80's. Basicly what I'm getting at is I see the saturn in the same light as the Sega CD, it is flawed and not as good as Sega's other hardware and the good point is the good games that came out for it. Hardware wise I like the PSX (except for the reliablity problems earily on) but I don't like the flood of crap games on it.

Originally posted by Sting chameleon
I dont get why anyone likes any specific system...its the GAMES,not the system....the system makes no difference whatsoever.If I like a game,I play it,I dont care what its on....its all 100% the same to me You are kinda right but the system has something to do with it too. The earily PSXs had reliablity problems which is why I stayed away from them till they worked those out the Jaguar had bugs in the hardware. The Atari 5200 had a crap controler. The NES had the cartrage go in VCR style which I find totaly stupid. Plus the hardware will dictacte what the system is capable of. Few bought the Atai 7200 when it launched since the system was mothballed for a few years, the games where fine but the hardware could not compete aginst the NES and SMS oh then there is the SMS which had far more power then the NES which gave it life (somewhat small though) to the end of the 16-bit era

[Clayface]

Originally posted by Bird_Boy
reasons I don't like playstation:

1)CD loading. It takes forever in a day to play a game on that system. Your time is up in the stores before the game even loads.




Hmm. Load times never really bother me - I'm just not that impatient I guess. But honestly the slow load times are mostly a thing of the past - most of the games in recent years for the PS have short load times and the PS2 has an option that lets you decrease load times even more.



2)I never liked, or wanted, any of the titles coming for any PS system (aside from Vengence...which is now coming out for GameCube as well! :)



Fair enough - we all have different preferences when it comes to which games we're looking for. For me, PS has the games I want: Final Fantasy, Xenogears, Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid, Onimusha, etc.



3)I hate the control design. It's too complicated. Especially the one w/ 2 joysticks in the middle...



Again a matter of person preference I guess. I love the controllers for the PS, especially the analog controls. I can't stand the Nintendo controllers - they're just far to clunky and they feel cheap in my hands.



4)I never liked the design of it.



I love the design of the PS2 - feels like an actual system component, like my VCR or DVD player. One thing I've never cared for about any system was that they all looked like just what they are - game systems. I love that Sony finally gave the PS a sleeker look.



5)All of my "real life" friends favor Playstation over any other system. They don't like Nintendo, because Playstation puts out "better games". Which is reason enough for me to hate it.



Umm, ok. Not sure I understand this point. So, if your friends like something you hate it? huh?



6)I just generally hate Playstation.. it became too popular too fast.



Hmmm that's starting to sound like Mxy - a personal vendetta against the system because it did well.... Can't say I really understand that.



Reason I don't mind Dreamcast or the upcoming GameCube:

There CD loading is sooooo much faster. GameCube's game boots up like a cartridge would.



Well from what I've played of the Dreamcast, I don't see any difference between the DC and PS2 load times. But then again, as I said, load times don't bother me.



I played PS2 at the store, and none of its titles appealed to me. It just looked like a boring system.



Well, I'm not sure what games you played, or which types of games you like in general ut there are plenty of games I'd consider exciting: Onimusha Warlord, Gauntlet: Dark Legacy, Metal Gear Solid 2, Star Wars: Starfighter, DOA2, Devil May Cry, etc.



I need a system with characters I've known for a long time. Crash Banicoot..nah, I don't like him enough. Mario, Luigi, the whole Nintendo game..I love those guys. i grew up with Mario and Sonic..



I'm not a fan at all of the mascot characters. I couldn't care less aout how long I've known a game character, so that aspect of the other systems holds no interest for me.



I even borrowed a PSX from my neighbor, I played it once. and that was it. He gave me like 20 diff. games, and I played about 5 of them, and I couldn't take it anymore.



Which games did he give you?

[Vigo Sprax]

PSX/PS2 games for the most part load super fast, its amazing that in games like GranTurismo 3 they load entire courses in less than like 5 seconds.

[mxyzptlk]

Originally posted by Bird_Boy
reasons I don't like playstation:

1)CD loading. It takes forever in a day to play a game on that system. Your time is up in the stores before the game even loads.
2)I never liked, or wanted, any of the titles coming for any PS system (aside from Vengence...which is now coming out for GameCube as well! :)
3)I hate the control design. It's too complicated. Especially the one w/ 2 joysticks in the middle...
4)I never liked the design of it.
5)All of my "real life" friends favor Playstation over any other system. They don't like Nintendo, because Playstation puts out "better games". Which is reason enough for me to hate it.
6)I just generally hate Playstation.. it became too popular too fast.

Reason I don't mind Dreamcast or the upcoming GameCube:

There CD loading is sooooo much faster. GameCube's game boots up like a cartridge would.

I played PS2 at the store, and none of its titles appealed to me. It just looked like a boring system. I need a system with characters I've known for a long time. Crash Banicoot..nah, I don't like him enough. Mario, Luigi, the whole Nintendo game..I love those guys. i grew up with Mario and Sonic..so thats why I like Dreamcast (I didn't like it at first..mainly because Sonic Adventure was so easy..but it's other games proved to be better!). I even borrowed a PSX from my neighbor, I played it once. and that was it. He gave me like 20 diff. games, and I played about 5 of them, and I couldn't take it anymore.

THAT is why I hate Playstation.

-BB


preach on brother!!!!!!!!

[Bird Boy]

Originally posted by Clayface
Which games did he give you? [/B]

Uh..Gran Turismo, Crash Bandicoot, Tekken2, Final Fantasy..that Dragoon game...a couple other racing games...and..I can't remember the others...I'll post again if I can remember anymore..

-BB

[mxyzptlk]

i am a sega man.

[Scythemantis]

Playstation titles I like and why:

Final fantasy 7 and 9 (didnt like 8)

Skullmonkeys (the most incredibly fun and weird game ive ever played...its a 2-d sidescroller using clay animation! Actually a spinoff of the pc puzzle game "the neverhood".Created,by the way,by Doug Tennapel,the creator of earthwom jim)

Oddworld (I consider this game more artistic than any movie I have ever seen.The creators actually took the cutscenes from it and pasted them together into a short film that almost won an emmy! If you havent heard of it,its about a planet full of surreal creatures and it`s battle between nature and the industrial...lots of dark,sick humor too..I like the little critters used to test carpet cleaner)

Nintendo titles I like:

I dont see how anyone can not like nintendo.It was the first to do just about everything!

Any mario game

Super metroid (The original metroid had the first EVER female hero in an action/adventure video game)

Earthworm jim 1 and 2.

Pokemon (theyre funnnn!)

Final fantasy 6 (known as final fantasy 3 in the U.S.)

Secret of evermore (a weird science fiction RPG that constantly quotes old B-movies and teams you up with a shape changing dog)

Sega titles I like:

No idea.Never owned a sega system.I played sonic a few times at someones house,it was pretty fun.Most SEGA games seem unoriginal to me :P

[Clayface]

Originally posted by Bird_Boy


Uh..Gran Turismo, Crash Bandicoot, Tekken2, Final Fantasy..that Dragoon game...a couple other racing games...and..I can't remember the others...I'll post again if I can remember anymore..


Maybe that's the problem then! Of the ones you listed, the only one I liked was Final Fantasy. I'm personally not a big fan of racing games. I've never cared for Crash or for the Tekken series. And Dragoon was ok story and graphics-wise, but the gameplay, in my opinion, left a lot to be desired.

[The Mad Hatter]

Oh, why not.

PS2
Strengths:
Loads and loads of games.
DVD capability.
Decent controllers.

Weaknesses:
1st party games (i.e. made by Sony) aren't nearly as good or as many as Sega's or Nintendo's.
Until GT3 and Twisted Metal were released, there weren't any real A-list titles. But more are coming, like Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid, etc.
The DVD archetecture makes it a pain in the butt to program for, which may explain the previous lack of A titles.

Dreamcast
Strengths:
Strong hardware.
Very good 1st party software from Sega.
Cheap.

Weaknesses:
Annoying controller.
Released at the worst time, when everyone was expecting the PS2 to be the second coming so nobody bought it.
Dying fast.

Gamecube:
Strengths:
Easy to program for. Developers love it.
Excellent 1st party software. Really, if you're willing to look past the mascot stuff, Nintendo's games are recognized by even its rivals (admitted by Sony at E3) as some of the best in the world. And Mature-rated stuff is coming.
Amazing controller--I know it looks strange, but it was bliss to hold.

Weaknesses:
Fewer games down the pipeline than the PS2. Though there's more than the N64 had, and the great E3 buzz is causing them to gain momentum rapidly.
No DVD playback capability.
All those people who whine about how their games look "kiddie" without taking the time to play them, when they would realize that they play a lot better than a lot of "mature" stuff. :rolleyes:

Xbox:
Strengths:
Most powerful archetecture out there, easy to program for.

Weaknesses:
Fewer games than the PS2.
The Japanese, with their anti-U.S. product bias, already hate it, which is scaring off Japanese developers.
Have to pay extra for DVD playback.
Big fat annoying controller.
Aside from Munch and Halo, Microsoft's 1st party games are extremely boring.
Made by an evil company. :)

Indreama:
Strengths:
Makes programming geeks happy.

Weaknesses:
Only appealed to programming geeks, died a money-bleeding death back in February.

[Clayface]

Yep, that about sums it up.

[mxyzptlk]

ps 2 and 1:

none

dreamcast
alot of em

[The Mad Hatter]

That was.... detailed.

[mxyzptlk]

i try and make things clear.

[The Mad Hatter]

This appears to be a new definition of "clear" I wasn't previously aware of.

[mxyzptlk]

you makin fun of me hatter.

[The Mad Hatter]

I'm sorry, I thought you were being facetious, so I joined in the fun. No ridicule intended.

We'll all be very glad to consider and debate your opinions as we do appreciate every viewpoint around here. However, in order to encourage lively discussion, it really helps if people explain why they feel certain ways about the issue at hand. Enjoy a certain movie? Great! Let us know what you dug about it. Hate a certain book? Well, what didn't you like about it? That way, you become clear.

So I'll ask the question again in hopes we'll get the information we need to completely understand your perspective, and generate stimulating conversation. And we certainly won't ridicule your answer, assuming you give us your thoughts in at least fleeting detail. Why don't you like the PlayStation?

[mxyzptlk]

i was got i hate it when peopl take me serios when i am not and not serios when i am. or me and my "crew" will take you down sucka.

[The Mad Hatter]

Wait, what? I don't understand you...

[mxyzptlk]

never mind

[Bird Boy]

it's just one of those things...one person loaths Star Trek for some reason they don't know, while the other loaths Star Wars for a reason they don't know. I'm still not totally sure why I loath playstation..I just.....do.

-BB