Speedy Gonzales: Banned in the USA

[mbaker]

Here'a an interesting article on why Speedy Gonzales isn't shown on Cartoon Network.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,48872,00.html

[Psycho Fox]

It is popular in Latin America and they say it is offensive to them? Can anyone lend CN a back bone? They should air in the US then wait and see how many people complain about it. Anyone that does probably would be a statistical anomaly and would not reflect their ratings.

[Joe Wagner]

Tis a shame that we have to take such a "politically correct" stance on every little aspect of our lives. I have never seen Speedy Gonzales as a stereotypical character and think that these toons deserve to be aired just as much as any of the other Looney Tunes out there.

While we're giving out backbones though - can give one to Disney and give them the guts to show the Gargoyles episode where Eliza gets shot by Broadway? (Can't remember the name right now tho) It was a big character development for the character and was reflected in a lot of later episodes of the series.

-Joe!

[Supernovametalstar]

"What about Pepe LePew? His chasing of unwilling females surely sends the message to children that's it's OK to stalk and attack them if they resist," he wrote in an e-mail. "Plus, because he's French, does this mean that all Frenchmen are sexual predators?"

That's similar to what I said to some friends when we were talking about why some Looney Tunes are not shown anymore and some still are.

[Supernovametalstar]

Originally posted by jjwspider

While we're giving out backbones though - can give one to Disney and give them the guts to show the Gargoyles episode where Eliza gets shot by Broadway? (Can't remember the name right now tho) It was a big character development for the character and was reflected in a lot of later episodes of the series.

-Joe!

Sadly, after Columbine, an episode like that will never air on a Disney channel. Even if they decided to put the entire series out on DVD, I bet they would skip that episode as if it was never animated.

[Joe Wagner]

Originally posted by Supernovametalstar


Sadly, after Columbine, an episode like that will never air on a Disney channel. Even if they decided to put the entire series out on DVD, I bet they would skip that episode as if it was never animated.

Couple that with the fact that Disney believes everything must be kid friendly, even though the majority of the following of Gargoyles was probably in their teens to early adult hood. Really a shame because this episode carried a clear cut message and showed people the dangers of weapons - not typical Disney fare.

-Joe!

[mbaker]

You know where that Gargoyles episode is headed, right? That's right, the black market. (Read: bootleg tapes at Comic Conventions) You watch. Speedy might suffer the same fate if nothing is done about it.

[Psycho Fox]

Originally posted by mbaker
You know where that Gargoyles episode is headed, right? That's right, the black market. (Read: bootleg tapes at Comic Conventions) You watch. Speedy might suffer the same fate if nothing is done about it. Well here in Canada both the Gargoyles ep and the Speedy Gonzales shorts do air when they air the shows here thus home recordings of them from up here might make their way down there.

[Borg4of3]

That Gargoyles episode was titled, "Deadly Force", and really should be shown because it was a lesson that reallife is not like the movies, that guns aren't always heroic or an easy answer, and that an accident with those could be extremely severe. If anything, it could be taken as a lesson to prevent another Columbine.

And political correctness can, in some measure, be an excuse in itself, but when facts state that Latinos enjoy Speedy Gonzales, then that completely neutralizes, beats up, and mutilates the PC excuse! We want Speedy, and they have NO reason not to give him to us! :D

Oh, and don't go quoting that Pepe le Pew quote around too much, or else they might just ban him too! :eek:

[ccffan01]

I was wondering why he hasnt been on.

[Batmex]

Come on! are they mentally retarded at CN!?

I'm MEXICAN and I don't feel insulted by Speedy or his buddies,quite the opposite, he's the man....oopss the mouse! he's cheerful, pretty darn smart and his quotes heve become legendary.

[Allen's Nickname.]

How Evil! Oh Yeah, when do we start our angered emails, and who can we send those to?

[Ricochet]

If I had a time machine, the radical PCers would have been moved to a small island nation with no inhabitants as soon as they were born! I have been wondering why lately there have been no Speedy cartoons! This just makes me mad!!!!!! :mad:

[Captin "Hank" Murphy]

Jeeze, this is like something Disney would do. Man, this is definetly a section of Cartoon Network that is definetly not controled by Williams Street.

[KingKoopa]

Originally posted by Captin "Hank" Murphy
Jeeze, this is like something Disney would do. Man, this is definetly a section of Cartoon Network that is definetly not controled by Williams Street. If WS was in charge of Speedy, they'd probably have done the same thing.

[LightAngel]

So that's why he's never on! I never considered him to be offensive in any way, though I'm not Latino, so my opinion probably wouldn't count. He was always outsmarting his enemies, so I can't see how he ever portrayed anything negative.

[Terminatah]

How is Speedy Gonzales a negative Mexican stereotype? What is there not to like about him? I've been wondering this ever since I found out his Tiny Toons counterpart, Lightning Rodriguez, was cut out of the show no sooner than it had premiered.

As for the Gargoyles episode, I can only shake my head in disgust that this episode isn't being aired. It is foremost an ANTI-GUN episode. I weep for the future.

-Terminatah

[Elven Moon]

Come to think of it, I haven't seen a Speedy episode in awhile. So that's why!

Just how is Speedy such a bad character? Heck, Speedy taught me a bit of spanish when I was a kid! Because of him I can say "He's crazy in the head!" :p What character will they target next? The Pink Panther for negatively portraying panthers and implying that panthers are pink and play pranks on people? Bugs Bunny for implying that rabbits cross-dress? Es muy loco!

[Chibi Kageboshi]

warner brothers sucks.

[GL2k2]

That's pretty sad if you ask me. Speedy Gonzalez is an icon. That's like banning Fat Albert for kids looking too black... doesn't make since. I find some of the shows on UPN Monday offensive, be they're not banning them.

This is the same reason Bill Cosby tried to ban the Little Rascals because it was offensive what Buck Wheat was doing. But he's an idiot with alot of money, because Eddie Murphy made fun of Buck Wheat, and if Bill Cosby was living back then he would have been doing the same damn thing. He realized this and released the rights. But it doesn't explain why he's hording Fat Albert cartoons.

Oh well, stupid is as stupid does. :bosko:

[kiddiesunshine]

ho, boy....this again... why? this is so dumb. here's the $64 question:
who says speedy is offensive if he's loved mostly by the group he's supposed to be offending?! non-hispanics! wtf?! this world is doomed. speedy was banned for nothing. once again, pc-ness has struck and we continue to be protected from THREATS THAT DON'T EXIST.

[Koggit]

NOOOOOOO!!!

[Chibi Kageboshi]

No more Static Shock! it's to offensive to black people sorry. GIVE ME A BREAK! im mexican and i love him.. as do most of my cousins

[Captin "Hank" Murphy]

If they are banning Speedy because he's a Mexican Stereotype, then they should also baned Popeye(for treating women like they got no equal rights.(I mean ever sceen the Popeye toon about it being bad luck to bring a woman on a ship?)), Duddly Do-Right toons that has eps of Bell flirting with the horse(for beastiality), Elmer Fudd cartoons(for carring a gun), Porky Pig(for promoting gluteny and obaesity), and a bunch of other cartoons. but if they put Speedy back on, then most likely the hispanic comunity will be pisted at them.

[kiddiesunshine]

the hispanic community won't be "pisted" for the simple fact that the vast majority of hispanics LOVE speedy!

[Chibi Kageboshi]

r they still making this looney toon baby show?

[Galaxia]

That...has got to be the most ridiculous POS I have ever read! Why ban Speedy? He's just a cartoon character! They might has well ban Rolf from EEnE because of his accent - this is how silly this is getting! Bring 'im back! :(

[Defiant1DS9]

yeah man, i loved speedy, i watched him on Nick a decade ago and i didn't find anything offensive about him. Speedy is soooo.... offensive, yet they air pokemon which i find is the most racist anime on TV. Yeah, pokemon is racist, wanna know how...

Pokemon is racist not because it has no blacks, i can excuse that, but it's because it has the most mygognious stereotypes of japanese i have seen.

[mbaker]

You know what, I don't think Speedy is the problem. the mice that hang around with him are the problem for these groups. I had no idea Speedy had A Tiny Toons counterpart named Lightning Rodriguez! I guess he was scrapped at the last minute and they settled for Little Beeper instead. The Gargoyles episode "Deadly Force" has A message that pleases both the gun controle lobby, and the NRA, but the gun controle lobby fails to notice that. As for Fat Albert, his show is pretty tame compared to UPN's Monday night lineup. (Ironically they aired his Christmas special last year.) The worst part of it is that their making A live action Fat Albert movie. (Grab your ankles.) I hope this dosen't make the forum too political. I'd hate to get booted out for some of my opinions.

[Joe Tully]

Matthew Hunter (mod at the TTTP) has set up a petition to get Speedy back on CN at http://www.petitiononline.com/speedy/petition.html

[Jack]

Originally posted by Chibi Kageboshi
r they still making this looney toon baby show?
I hope not :eek:

[Feslmogh]

Here's an article (http://www.hispaniconline.com/a&e/people/speedy.html) from Hispanic Online...

And One from Rush Limbaugh (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_032702/content/stack_d.guest.html)

[Captin "Hank" Murphy]

I think Speedy is more of a minature, fast, Zorro than a mexican Steriotype.

If it wasn't for the Columbine shooting, 9/11 attacks, soocer moms who thinks Bugs Bunny is too violent, A over-strick PTA, and censors, then TV would be more free.

[Feslmogh]

I Think I've found an old anti-Speedy page (http://www.eece.unm.edu/staff/larranag/www/stereotyprat.html) ...

[mbaker]

I signed the petition. Now I have A question. Cartoon Network has aired "Bugs Bunny's 1001 Rabbit Tails", and did they remove the scene that uses the Speedy cartoon in it? (the one where Sylvester plays the flute to get rid of the mice like The Pide Pipper. I forget the original title of that cartoon.) They also aired "Daffy Duck's Fantastic Island"? Will that film be put on hold due to the controversy? Speedy's in that film. He's even A costar for crying out loud. (I would know if I was A sidekick or not.)

[Lucky Bob]

Just a thought, shouldn't we ban Zorro too? I mean, Sargeant Garcia and Corporal Reyes can be classified as "stereotypes", can't they?

Hey, wait a minute, Joe Crane the mountain man was a stereotyped American! :eek: Quick, let's ban Zorro now!

[mbaker]

Now that you mention it, it's only A matter of time before "The Mask Of Zorro" with Antonio Banderes comes under fire. (Spooky, ain't it.) My friend likes that movie, and I feel for him. I remember A Loony Tunes comic where Speedy was dresses up like The Flash. I also remember A cartoon from the DePate/Freeling era where there was A race between Speedy & The Road Runner. With Sylvester & Wile E. Coyote setting the traps for them. A neat little crossover idea. Oh, and one more thing. Dose anyone remember the Speedy Gonzales video game for the Super NES? How much you wanna bet that's gonna sell millions in the discount bin?

[Lucky Bob]

And I've got it, too!

(I'm not taking any offers, sorry!)

[sun]

AOL has been making decisions throughout the company....Some aspects are left alone, others are affected...Aol doesn't want to "offend" anyone, because it wants to sign up everyone on its internet....Yea, I know it sounds fartetched, but that is how the corporate mind works....The cartoon network has been ruined by Aol...What I have read here, is that they have edited cartoons, and pulled some....The Old WB, would not have done that....eventually some stupid censor, will start to look at some of the steriotypes in BATS and Superman, and start to edit them too. oops they may edit out this message, because this is the "Toonzone, part of WBor is it separate? Lets here it for Pokeman.

[mbaker]

Good Gravy! AOL wants to enslave the world! (Note the sarcasm.) It's A shame they have to be so uptight like that. I have A question. Will "Flintstones On The Rocks" come under fire from this? That film has some mexican stereotypes, plus Fred takes A nap wearing A sombrero in one scene. All this talk makes me want to see Eddie Murphy's "Buckwheat Sings" skit from SNL. Plus that "Behind The Music" skit with "Fat Albert" (Tim Meadows dose A great "Mushmouth" in that one.)

[Pilmedium]

Did any people complain when Nickelodeon aired most of them until 1999? If not, why can't Cartoon Network show them now?

"...because the station is owned by a different company..." is not a valid reason, as even Cartoon Network showed a few from 1997-1999.

[Kid Cloudkicker]

Originally posted by GL2k2
That's pretty sad if you ask me. Speedy Gonzalez is an icon. That's like banning Fat Albert for kids looking too black... doesn't make since. I find some of the shows on UPN Monday offensive, be they're not banning them.

This is the same reason Bill Cosby tried to ban the Little Rascals because it was offensive what Buck Wheat was doing. But he's an idiot with alot of money, because Eddie Murphy made fun of Buck Wheat, and if Bill Cosby was living back then he would have been doing the same damn thing. He realized this and released the rights. But it doesn't explain why he's hording Fat Albert cartoons.

Oh well, stupid is as stupid does. :bosko:

Maybe thats probably the same reason why he won't release the Amos &Andy show,Bill Cosby does own the rights to the Amos & Andy Show, and although it was a popular show when it ran on tv in th 50's he felt because of the sterotypes the show pretrayed" we as a society were not ready to embrace this show" and he's keeping that show locked away never to be seen by human eyes .

[Kid Cloudkicker]

and another thing if this keeps up i wouldn't be suprised if they ban the Jackie Chan Adventures claiming that uncle is offensive to asian americans :mad: :confused:

[Galaxia]

Grr...It's just not fair!

Hope everyone likes my icon now - ironically I got it from my AIM Buddy Icon Options page :rolleyes:

[cjshoup]

Originally posted by mbaker
Now that you mention it, it's only A matter of time before "The Mask Of Zorro" with Antonio Banderes comes under fire. (Spooky, ain't it.)

What for? Nothing offensive in that film. It was a good film with the right actor (Antonio Banderes) playing Zorro.

[mbaker]

I'm just saying I hope it dosen't come under fire.

[cjshoup]

Originally posted by mbaker
I'm just saying I hope it dosen't come under fire.

It won't

And why should it? If any would come under fire, it would be The Gay Blade (IMO, the funniest of the Zorros, but it won't )

[mbaker]

What about Quickdraw McGraw's sidekick, Baba Louie?

[Captin "Hank" Murphy]

What about Quickdraw McGraw's sidekick, Baba Louie? Yea, he's also a little fat Mexican Steriotype as well.(Well I'm sure according to the same people who banned Speedy

[RockItShipper]

"Deadly Force" was on video some years back.... Dunno how easy a find it is now, but the whole Gargoyles series seems to have cuts on Toon Disney. (and they show it at 11 pm on school nights?!)

RE: Speedy.... I'd pull for a DVD release of 'banned' Looney Toons (including Speedy) in an intimidating-looking package myself. That's how you get it done, and make some extra $ without blowing it on edits.

I didn't think Mask of Zorro was particularly innovative... Good movie, but I think it would've been cool to see the Zorro mantle stay in the family. :) But whatever, Gay Blade's the best version I've seen. And maybe that's the same kind of thinking that gets Speedy so popular in Latin America. He's a hero and he's blatantly from the same world- even if it's depicted by an outsider. And it can be amusing to see your culture through another one's eyes.

[Allen's Nickname.]

Support speedy! VOTE!

[Zechs]

Yeah that sucks I tought he was pretty funny. If that's the case then all cartons should be banned they all offend someone. I can see why he was banned but come on look at how music vidoes potray black women and yet they still play those on M.T.V. I hate those video but I choose not to watch them because I know I am none of those things but that's enterment You can a black girl a well you know but you can't watch a cartoon mouse. Sakes.

[j32885]

I remember when Speedy Gonzales Looney Tunes cartoons were on TV a few years back. It wasn't until recently that I've learned like everyone else, that they banned his cartoons in the U.S. for racial discrimination.

The Speedy Ganzales and the Roadrunner & Coyote cartoons would always be my favorite out of Looney Tunes. I hope that CN will bring back the all the Speedy Gonzales cartoons that they took off the air.

[Zechs]

Nah just air after hours but sence it's considered a race thing it will never air on nomarl cable. Good luck.

[Pilmedium]

Speedy Gonzales is never going to come back. Besides, there are many more cartoons they could have removed, and probably will in the future. The least you can do is vote for Speedy in the Delaney poll! :mad:

[sun]

I heard on the radio yesterday, in responce to an uproar of fans wanting the Speedy toons back, that WB and the Cartoon Network announced that it had done some research, and found that Speedy just wasn't that funny, and that was one of the reasons that the toons are not on... Kids WB, and CN due lots of audience reasearch to verfy, what they think should stay on, or take off. I guess they call them test audiences. It just shows where they are at,and where we are at.. Draw your own conclutions.

[Joe Tully]

If you visit the TTTP regularly, you'll see that another article on Speedy comes out just about every day, which is at least some good news since the only way we can win is if CN gets hit over the head with this again and again. Unfortunately, in just about every one of them, Ms. Goldberg thinks that it's a good idea to either twist the truth around or just flat out lie in many of her statements, such as in the latest article in which she said that Speedy hung out with a gang of drunken, chain-smoking mice all of the time. :rolleyes: That's part of what really makes me mad about this. I understand that she has to do her job and defend CN's policies, but when they start making up things and exaggerating just to make it seem like they're right and everyone else is wrong, it just really ticks me off.

The later Speedys are not the greatest, I'll admit that, but when they're already airing other classic cartoons that are of equal or lesser quality, then that's no excuse not to air those Speedy cartoons, let alone the earlier ones that are much funnier.