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I.R Joey
07-06-2001, 06:28 PM
I notice that sometimes artists add a little bit of bounce to the female charecters to make some fans happy. I'm not really that effected by it, I could care less (heck I'm one of the only people I know that does not find the girls from the game series Dead or Alive to be that attractive), and I never really saw the purpouse of it. However, I wanted to know what you guys think. Do you find it to be offensive.

JustJack
07-06-2001, 07:03 PM
Well..I am a would-be comic book artist(Still in highschool), but even so, my friend & I still write & Illustrate comics, sometimes sell them with local comic shops, & sometimes in school. Anyway..

The thing is, I don't usually give my female characters out of proportion bodies. Really...I don't like huge bouncy breast. Honestly..they get in the way of the actual character design, and I'd rather have people READ my comics, & Look at the cool fight scenes, than choke the chicken, looking at the bimbos with little to no cloths. And it doesn't make sence to have all these scantly clad chicks running around, and getting mad if a guy calls them "hot". If they dress like that...they do it for a reason.

Not to say I haven't had a few characters like that...cus I have.

I'm not offended..mainly cus I am a guy..who reads comics...so when you put 2 & 2 together...

oranthal
07-06-2001, 09:37 PM
personally, i couldn't care less and certainly don't expect "fan service" when i watch anime, so i wouldn't be pissed if they didn't have it. but if they do have it, i won't complain either.

Originally posted by I.R Joey
I notice that sometimes artists add a little bit of bounce to the female charecters to make some fans happy. I'm not really that effected by it, I could care less (heck I'm one of the only people I know that does not find the girls from the game series Dead or Alive to be that attractive), and I never really saw the purpouse of it. However, I wanted to know what you guys think. Do you find it to be offensive.

Scythemantis
07-06-2001, 09:50 PM
I`m fairly indifferent towards it.

Calhoun07
07-07-2001, 12:40 AM
I never gave it too much thought either, but I guess I can see why people would not like it.

Mr. Obsession
07-07-2001, 01:29 AM
I don't really care either way and most of the stuff I watch either has little or no fan service at all or is in moderation.

Besides I'd rather watch stuff get blown up than bouncing fluff characters. :D

Leaping Larry Jojo
07-07-2001, 10:56 AM
Cowboy Bebop's Faye Valentine is cheesecake fan service. I don't mind one bit, as long as it doesn't compromise her essential personality. ;)

Calhoun07
07-07-2001, 02:04 PM
Faye totally rocked. A great character. If they do a sequel to Cowboy Bebop, I hope they have her in it. I heard at least that they were going to be doing a Cowboy Bebop movie.

Nightwing
07-07-2001, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by calhoun07
I never gave it too much thought either, but I guess I can see why people would not like it.

That's my thought on it too right there, so many thanks for not having to type it. :)

The extent to that sort of thing in our shows that I see is just that I notice it. I can understand why it's there. I mean, fanboys (refering to all hardcore fans) will be fanboys.

But still, sometimes they tend to go a bit farther than the last time. I'm often taken aback by the style, design, and animation of Melanie Walker in the ENTIRE Batman Beyond episode, Dead Man's Hand. I mean, WOW! lol.

I wonder how far they'll eventually stretch it too. Lord knows those crap censors are going to want to stop them sometime around. But so far the gradual leadings seem to go unnoticed.

DR. BELCH
07-07-2001, 03:31 PM
--I admit as a man I have a healthy interest in a woman's...ahemupper stories. And I have drawn my fair share of busty beauties in my day as an aspiring comic book writer. However, my main characters, which includes a couple of women, still use a minimalist stick-figure style because (A) they are easier to animate because I don't have to draw clothes--I don't want a female hero to constantly run about in heels and dresses but I can't have her always looking too gritty and unfeminine in jeans and T-shirts either...and what does the well-dressed man wear to fistfight a gang of punks on a city street or in a scuzzy bar? and (B) less focus on a dame's goodies means I get to spend more on the face--I love to draw women's eyes; maybe it's a fetish, like my thing about women's voices, but what the frig. Ironically some think I'm a pig and I don't respect women, pointing to my several failed relationships, but I tell them to kiss my sweet http://www.mpz.co.uk/cwm/otn/angry/tdo3.gif.
It is possible for a woman to be attractive and intelligent, after all...who says pretty immediately means dumb?

Vigo Sprax
07-07-2001, 03:41 PM
It can draw attention to a show, like a couple years back I went to a comic convention and ADV was giving out this poster of these, and I guess I'll say Hot, anime women...I eventually watched the show because of it. Its the same as casting these type of women in live action TV shows.

Leaping Larry Jojo
07-07-2001, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by calhoun07
Faye totally rocked. A great character. If they do a sequel to Cowboy Bebop, I hope they have her in it. I heard at least that they were going to be doing a Cowboy Bebop movie.

Yep. The movie occurs right before Ed left.

Leaping Larry Jojo
07-07-2001, 07:05 PM
The most blatant piece of fan service on Saturday mornings was the Pokemon episode featuring Prima. Cleavage shots a-plenty! Too bad this occurred when Brock was gone...he would have literally wet his pants.

Psycho Fox
07-07-2001, 08:37 PM
Well I have to say that I support the artist right to put bouncy women in for the drooling fan boys as long as there is some blance and it does not distract readers from the story.

I have drawn my fair share of busty beauties in my day as an aspiring comic book writer. However, my main characters, which includes a couple of women, still use a minimalist stick-figure style because (A) they are easier to animate because I don't have to draw clothes--I don't want a female hero to constantly run about in heels and dresses but I can't have her always looking too gritty and unfeminine in jeans and T-shirts either...and what does the well-dressed man wear to fistfight a gang of punks on a city street or in a scuzzy bar?

I've drawn a bit too from time to time. I tend to give both males in females loose clothing as it is more realistic (come on if you are constantly trashing thugs are you gona wear anything expensive and confining)

[QUOTE]It is possible for a woman to be attractive and intelligent, after all...who says pretty immediately means dumb? No agument there

Leaping Larry Jojo
07-07-2001, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by Vigo Sprax
It can draw attention to a show, like a couple years back I went to a comic convention and ADV was giving out this poster of these, and I guess I'll say Hot, anime women...I eventually watched the show because of it. Its the same as casting these type of women in live action TV shows.

Was it Neon Genesis Evangelion's Misato? Ritsuko? Uh, or if you are those types, Rei Ayanami?

Sorcerer Hunters?

Slayers?

Vigo Sprax
07-07-2001, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by Leap Larry Jojo
Was it...?

Okay, you made me dig the poster out (I uh don't hang it up since I wouldn't want my mother to see it). It was for 3 anime actually: New Cutey Honey, Dirty Pair Flash, & Sorcerer Hunters.

Nightwing
07-08-2001, 09:24 PM
That reminds me of an awesome work I saw at the WB store. It was a graphicly detailed poster of Supergirl, Batgirl, and Catwoman. And I mean really detailed. They looked like the artists' hormones truly took their time. But of course, I didn't buy it and shouldn't have anyway. Well, maybe if I find it again once I have my own place......who knows. :)