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SpaceCub
03-14-2002, 02:00 AM
Okay, assuming that you are a heterosexual male and from the age of 16-29, what would you do in this scenario?

Over the course of a few weeks, your house becomes flooded with 5 (technically 6) beautiful women who are all clearly infatuated with you.

Once again, assuming that you you are a heterosexual male from the age of 16-29, you would at least make a pass at ONE of them, at least, right?

But however, quite the opposite end result occurs in the two series, Tenchi Muyo! and Tenchi Universe (after a lengthy thread between myself, Sheamon, and others, I've decided to keep my comments limited to shows that I have seen over 95% of the episodes. Therefore I am leaving out Tenchi in Tokyo, which I have not seen all of, but am told that he does eventually date a girl. I'm sorry, but I gave up after they decided to change the plot line for a third time. And cripes, those monsters!!). In these series, our boy Tenchi Masaki is surounded by 5 (or 6) sexy ladies who all want to get their gear off and get it on, and yet, he does nothing (*sigh* a sad story for all "man"kind). In fact, he actually seems like he's avoiding the girls as much as possible, and looks awfully uncomfortable around any one of them (but looks cool as a cucumber near that big, ugly looking guy at his school). So I have a question for all of you Tenchi fans; is he a homosexual (I'm assuming that because you all watch Adult Swim, you are at least 17 years of age and shouldn't be offended by this topic)?

"Not that there's anything wrong with that" as Jerry would say. Hey, to each his own, I always say. As long as the unlikely event that Tenchi somehow is imbodied in a real person and begins to make a pass at me never occurs, I'm perfectly comfortable with whatever his lifestyle may be. So let's not let this turn into some kind of ethical dispute, just a simple question.

I don't buy the excuse that "They weren't his type." Come on! Nearly every type of woman was on that show (then again, maybe Tenchi was into Goth chicks the whole time?), the ditz, the princess, the wild one, the smart one, and the shy down to business type. And then there's Sasami. Yes, I realize she's like half his age, but if we're not about to judge the guy according to his sexual preferance, how can we hold the idea that he would be a petifile against him?

I get the idea that his family knew what he was up to as well. His Grandfather sees what's up and decides he better set the boy straight (once again, we've already decided that Tenchi's decision is fine with us, regardless of what it is, but Grandpa just wants great-grandkids). So he willingly gives him the key to the prison of the beautiful Ryoko, hoping that things might work out for the two of them (sorry grandpa, strike 1, and 5 more are on the way). I think his father was perfectly fine with the idea. In fact, all the better, for him ("Hey, if Tenchi doesn't want em, SOMEBODY should give take the initiative"). Ever notice how sometimes he makes a pass at the girls?

But alas, our dear boy takes 3 whole series to catch on and fall in love with a woman, and of course by then I'm so sick of the show I can't watch it.

Anyway, feel free to post your opinions. And don't feel that no one will read your reply because so many others already have replied (if that unlikely event occurs). I'll be sure to read what everyone of you has to say, regardless of how pig-headed and ignorant you may be.

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TylerL
03-14-2002, 03:03 AM
First of all, your demographic doesn't match with Tenchi's. He's 14-17 (I think 16?)

If you notice in the series, he really only has about two friends and lives with his father and grandpa (no mother anymore, remember).
He's not used to people, let alone the kind that make no sense to him (the female variety).

The advances the girls make scare the hell out of him because he doesn't know how to react. He doesn't know the proper way to show affection (if he even is attracted to any of them).
Speaking from experience, when I was his age, my "skills" with women were...less than spectacular. I had many more guy friends than female-type friends. I was oblivious to all dropped hints, and I was in shock for about three days after my first kiss.

Tenchi's a shy, inexperienced little boy.
You'll notice that he DOES grow up as the series moves along though.
Not everyone matures at the same speed. Labeling someone as a homosexual based on their relative maturity is quite unfair.

Lonestarr
03-14-2002, 09:11 AM
won't someone lock this thread?!

DJRed
03-14-2002, 09:22 AM
unfair label? I suppose. Blatantly obvious idea? yes indeed.

Is he gay? eh... maybe it's a japanese culture thing... damned if i know. Besides even if he is just uncomfortable around women... well hell, who said he need to make a move? I think Ryoko does enough of that for everyone. I mean she's only naked around him oh.... just a dozen or so times. He should sit back and let her have her way. It's just that easy.

I'm pretty sure i remember hearing a while ago that another tenchi series is in the works. A continuation of tenchi muyo (no universe or tokyo thank god) and in it he'll finally choose one of the girls.
Actually my bets are on Sasami, or rather Tsunami. Her grown up form.
She's the only sane one. She doesn't look half bad. and hey, she can cook!!
What more could a man want? Straight or Gay.

Evil Dr. Reef
03-14-2002, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by Lonestarr
won't someone lock this thread?!
I'm actually suprised it made it this far.

DJRed
03-14-2002, 09:44 AM
hey silly, stupid, unimportant questions have a place in this world to.

oh and immature. don't forget that one.
kinda makes me glad that i posted with my ideas......

DR. BELCH
03-14-2002, 09:50 AM
As noted many times, Asian culture is very different from ours. In Japan, the girls are reserved, and a man won't even publicly comment on a woman's appearance or how attractive she is. Tenchi's the prototypical gentleman, but Ryoko's about as far from the blushing, shy Japanese girl as one can get. I'm afraid of her, and I usually like when a woman makes the first move. Aika's a princess--an upper-class girl, and crossing those lines between social strata never works, trust me. Kiyone's a cojones-crushing workaholic, Mihoshi's a frigging ditz, and Tsasami's underage (though when she's older, maybe; I agree that she's the one with the least emotional bagage). Lil' Washoe may be of age, but she looks like a ten-year-old, and that is too weird (although I admit I might give her a tumble; she's intelligent and she only looks that young!)

Sisto Kid
03-14-2002, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by DJRed
hey silly, stupid, unimportant questions have a place in this world to.

oh and immature. don't forget that one.
kinda makes me glad that i posted with my ideas......

Uh,...an honest question with no malice or homophobia behind it? What's the big deal? :confused:

I have to admit the points made by SpaceClub have made me scratch my head a time or two wondering. Nothing I obsess about, but jezzus-christ-on-a-crutch, considering Tenchi is surrounded by girls who are falling all over him and he feels he has to run from them like Satan was chasing him with a pitchfork, what's wrong with asking the question? Besides, how do you know the series creator didn't plant that as a small afterthought to make people tune in and go,...hmmmm?

If it was true, it wouldn't make me stop watching. God, I think it's because of our LACK of honest communication about what we're thinking is why we humans are so screwed up sometimes.

DJRed
03-14-2002, 11:07 AM
I only said that in responce to the people who thought this thread should be closed. I think it's a good question to. But it's still kind of silly stupid etc. and so on.
I personally would like to slap the basterd around a bit.Get him to his senses or somehow steal his identity and have myself a jolly good time in that hot tub of theres... but uh.... eh hem.... I don't really know what my point is here
other than to say that you've really mis-read my post.
It's an honest question just a somewhat silly one.
This is only a show after all. That can be a weak argument, but still.

Sisto Kid
03-14-2002, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by DJRed
I only said that in responce to the people who thought this thread should be closed. I think it's a good question to. But it's still kind of silly stupid etc. and so on.
I personally would like to slap the basterd around a bit.Get him to his senses or somehow steal his identity and have myself a jolly good time in that hot tub of theres... but uh.... eh hem.... I don't really know what my point is here
other than to say that you've really mis-read my post.
It's an honest question just a somewhat silly one.
This is only a show after all. That can be a weak argument, but still.

Point taken, DJ, my bad. I guess I had my "anti-politically-correct" radar on hyper-sensitive. ;)

And you are right. It's just a show. But then again, isn't the point of truly trancsendent art/entertainment to spark debate, especially considering something that's such a socio/political hot-potato?

Sorry. Went on a tangent there. :D

Professor Sisto signing off for now. :rolleyes:

i miss katy
03-14-2002, 12:52 PM
I think Tenchi is just a) too shy and embarrassed by all the advances, b) too annoyed and exhausted by Ayeka and Ryoko, c) genuinely cares about Ayeka and Ryoko and doesn't want to hurt them by pursuing any one girl, and d) AFRAID of what Ayeka and Ryoko might do to him if he did.

The only relationship that has hints of homosexuality is in Tenchi Universe between Kiyone and Mihoshi. I don't know that they're supposed to be, but it definitely has that flavor at times. As was mentioned earlier, showing same-sex friendships that seem awkwardly close in US culture is commonplace in anime (and other cultures as well), and showing same-sex lovers is also not a big deal. Malachite and Zoicyte were lovers in Sailor Moon, and that's a much younger audience than Tenchi. (Zoicyte was changed to a woman in the US version of Sailor Moon, and I must admit he/she looks more like a flatchested woman than a man).

Probably my favorite episode in the Tenchi series is "No Need For Resident Officers!", which entirely focuses on Kiyone and Mihoshi, and shows how much they care about each other. I'd say it could go either way as far as those two.

randomguy
03-14-2002, 04:53 PM
I've been told he has sex in the last movie, "Tenchi Forever" (I think that's the title. Sure is cheesy). So, hey, guess that answers that question. Me, I always thought Ayeka and Ryoko had a thing for each other.

SpaceCub
03-14-2002, 05:14 PM
I'll try to list these responses in order that they were posted.

Tyler, my apoligies for the demo messup (although I did hit the tail end of the spectrum). But what I was trying to get at was that regardless of Tenchi's age, he should have acted a little more interested. Yes, I admit, I had the same trouble with missed cues at his age too, but the girls seem to come on a LITTLE more strongly than what I experienced.

DJRed, of course silly, stupid, and unimportant questions have a place on these boards. If someone can run a thread on why Funi shouldn't have cut out Gohan's butt so often, can't I start a thread which may redefine the entire way we look at a show? I realize you were actually trying to help me out, I just want everyone to realize that we shouldn't ignore such crucial elements of a series, regardless of how gray they may be. Thanks for the support, same goes for Sisto.

And Dr. Belch, sorry, but I can only agree partially with you here. Yes, I know that Asian culture is different than ours, but as I stated, he could have nearly any type of girl he desired, even one that would fit his culture. Washoe (or technically Sasami) would be, I think, the best match. However, I never really thought she looked ten (nor 20,000 for that matter). Yes, she could act like a child when it meant she could get out of work, but she always seemed very intelligent and mature to me (except when she wanted to be flattered, as most geniuses do).

I miss katy does bring up some excellent points, but they don't seem convincing enough, IMO. Now your second paragraph DOES really make me think. To be honest, the idea never crossed my mind. But now it seems to hit me like a ton of bricks (kind of like when a friend first pointed out Bert and Ernie's way of life). I mean geez, they live together, have the same job, and one is extremly dependent on (perhaps even obsessed with) the other. I can see how some people would argue that young children shouldn't be exposed to such circumstances, but hey, that's why we have Adult Swim, right? So maybe CN was justified in putting Tenchi on late hours (although I feel Big O or 8th MST deserves the spot more).

But the real question is, why does everyone call me SpaceClub?

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"Well, either that or 'John.'"

Sora Takenouchi
03-14-2002, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by randomguy
Me, I always thought Ayeka and Ryoko had a thing for each other.

Time and Space Advetures anyone?

Sisto Kid
03-14-2002, 05:49 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SpaceCub
But the real question is, why does everyone call me SpaceClub?

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Oops! Sorry! I can't speak for anyone else, but for me, this is what happens when you are in such a hurry to post that you get a brain fart and don't pay attention to small details! :o

Sorry, Cub! :cool:

But may I say thanks for having the guts to post a legitimate question, something I have kinda wondered, but never said for fear that, (surprise surprise) people would take it wrong!

AgentMaxX
03-14-2002, 06:00 PM
Altho Tenchi appears gay, and altho I wooda made a move the moment Ryoko showed interest, he is not gay. He proves this in Tenchi Universe in the last episode, where all he can think about is Ryoko, and when she finally appears and holds him, he doesn't pull away as he normally would. I guess he was just scared to have girls trying to pull moves on him and when he finally got used to it, he acted the "normal" way to act.

Anyone00
03-14-2002, 07:31 PM
Not every strait guy is a horn-dog that will jump the bones of any-and-all remotely attractive females.
Some care about tradition, some care about making sure it's the right women first, and some are just plain shy and/or awkward.

Andy Mancini
03-14-2002, 08:15 PM
I'm sorry, but the "Is Tenchi gay" arguement has about originality as the "Is Future Trunks harbouring a sectret crush for Goku" arguement from "Dragon Ball Z". Sorry to be so blunt, it's been done before. The Ryoko and Aeka "lesbian" angle brought up in this thread, however, is different. That one is news to me.

William C. Maune
03-14-2002, 08:22 PM
[indent]Not every guy jumps in bed with the first girl who comes on to him. Plus, if he did choose to have, er, relations, with one of the girls he would probably alienate the others. He likes them all and does not see any reason to disrupt how things are. Sure, he will probably choose one of them some day, but there is no reason he has to rush in doing so.

SirLemming
03-14-2002, 10:37 PM
In the "Tenchi in Tokyo" series, we can finally understand him a bit more. Once he's alone, things start to make more sense. He's definitely put off by their eagerness -- it's just too much for him. In fact, Ryoko and Ayeka definitely need mental therapy! Especially later on in the shows, you'll see how absolutely ridiculous they get, and Tenchi's just like... whatever. But I think a defining quote from Tenchi in Tokyo, when he's finally alone in his own place, is when he says, "Finally I'll be like a kid again without all these women!" (not a direct quote, but close) I guess he just doesn't feel ready for it -- they're complicating things way too much.

To defend him much more obviously, when he's in his new environment he meets a girl named Sakuya who makes advances on him, and although she also puts him off at first, he seems to be falling for her now.

So there! Tenchi in Tokyo answers your questions!

Momijii
03-15-2002, 02:34 AM
I don't Tenchi's gay just not overly full Testosterone.

randomguy
03-15-2002, 02:30 PM
Nah, Tenchi ain't gay. But Ayeka and Ryoko are lesbians. At least I think so. Watch the whole series very, very carefully.

Momijii
03-16-2002, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by randomguy
Nah, Tenchi ain't gay. But Ayeka and Ryoko are lesbians. At least I think so. Watch the whole series very, very carefully.

Humm makes you think...would that make Nagi a les as well!

VinceA
03-16-2002, 07:45 AM
I love it when discussions of sexual orientation pop up...

Anything examined under a microscope will yield the results you're looking for :)

randomguy
03-16-2002, 02:57 PM
Anything examined under a microscope will yield the results you're looking for

This is true.

SpaceCub
03-16-2002, 07:55 PM
In response to the "Tenchi isn't gay, he just doesn't want to 'jump their bones'" posts, I never said Tenchi had to have sex with any of the girls. I said if he were straight, he'd make a pass. Tenchi doesn't even look interested IMO throughout the 2 series, in fact, he looks scared to death (kinda like what I would look like if I lived in a house with 6 homosexual guys who were all hitting on me). Yes, I understand that he might not want to alienate the others if he just dated 1, but he doesn't even take 1 girl aside and explain that he really likes her, but just can't commit for fear for his life.

And DJ_Gir, if this is such a lame post, why did so many people respond? It must have seemed interesting enough to get 20+ replies.

Momijii, yeah, I got that idea about Nagi too...

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"Yes, I'm aware of that, sir"

William C. Maune
03-16-2002, 11:49 PM
[indent]Why does he even have to "make a pass" or pull one aside and tell them they are the one? He has not even known any of them all that long. Isn't he allowed to get to know them. There is no reason he has to make any choices any time soon. The kid is still in school. It's not like the girls are going anywhere anytime soon. Give Tenchi a break, he is taking his time and there is no reason he should have to make any choices right now. Anyway, even if he did pull one of them aside and reveal his feelings do you really think it would remain a secret longer than a few hours, if not minutes? Anytime Tenchi does anything for any of the girls they flaunt it to the others the first chance they get.

Andy Mancini
03-18-2002, 11:50 AM
Anything examined under a microscope will yield the results you're looking for
THAT is what I was trying to say. Using the logic of this thread, you can easily say that Master Roshi from "Dragon Ball" (not DBZ as much) and Happosai from "Ranma 1/2" are pedophiles. After all, didn't Master Roshi want (and get) a look at teenage Bulma's "private areas" in the first couple of episodes? (On Toonami, he saw her belly button. In the uncut version, I hear, he saw something more... personal, if you know what I mean.) In "Ranma 1/2", Happosai is always trying to get a glimse of the teenage Ranma female, especially after he/she tries to put a stop to his panty stealing ways. Now, I know that both characters are meant to be your run of the mill "horny old bastards", and not meant to be looked into like that. Still, if you want them to be that, they can.

SpaceCub
03-19-2002, 01:15 AM
Of course Roshi is a pedophile, and there's no "way of looking at it." An old man that looks at naked teenages is a pedophile, that is a definition, not a "way of looking at it."

And I don't believe we need to look at the situation under a microscope to get the idea that Tenchi is gay. Any time a girl gets close to him he looks like he's about to have an aneurism. There is a difference between being shy and not being interested, and it doesn't take a homophobic to see how Tenchi feels.

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"What?"
"He means 'gay'" -Blast From the Past

William C. Maune
03-19-2002, 02:40 AM
"And I don't believe we need to look at the situation under a microscope to get the idea that Tenchi is gay. Any time a girl gets close to him he looks like he's about to have an aneurism. There is a difference between being shy and not being interested, and it doesn't take a homophobic to see how Tenchi feels."

[indent]First of all "Not that there is anything wrong with that" (as Seinfeld or George would say), but in Tenchi's case:

You mention he looks like he's about to have an aneurism. To me this is a distinct sign that he is not gay. Take Fred in Outlaw Star for instance. When we first see him he makes a big deal about saying hello to the two guys and then he basically brushes off Melfina as if she wasn't there. If Tenchi were gay he would probably just brush it off "anytime a girl gets close to him", as you put it. What guy hasn't gotten really nervous when a girl gets close to him, he likes her, or he wants to ask her out, etc. Especially the first time, this is important. Tenchi is a kid who spends most of his time at his grandfather's shrine and as he mentions in the first episode about the only girls he sees are old ladies. Not only is this the first time he has had real contact with a girl his own age (well, relatively speaking), and that is also interested in him, but there are 4 of them. Of course he is going to look like he is about to have an aneurism. Sure, we would all like to think we could play it cool in that situation, but that just isn't going to happen. Finally, the reason they all are interested in him, and continue to remain interested in him, may just be that he does treat them all well, he isn't a player, he's honest, and he is actually getting to know them.

Chuckles
03-19-2002, 03:47 AM
You are all forgetting something important:
NOT ALL CHARACTERS BEHAVE REALISTICLY!
That is, you can't expect everyone in cartoons to behave as any real person would. Any real (straight) guy in his postition would have jumped in bed with all the girls at once, even at age 16. Just because the characters in anime look realistic doesn't mean that they are, its called fantasy.

Morgan Sloat
03-19-2002, 03:50 AM
Well I can honestly say I would have Romper Room going on in my house if I were Tenchi... maybe I am just a sick bastard tho...

Kesh
03-19-2002, 11:50 AM
I think it's mostly a reflection on our society that this is even a question. If a guy isn't interested in a girl/girls, what's the first thing people comment? "Oh, he's probably gay."

It's an American assumption that men just take any opportunity to have sex with women, or at least flirt with them. In reality, there are men who are more interested in romance or a commitment than random passes, or quickies. And there's plenty of guys who are just plain shy & awkward around women.

But, many of these guys have to deal with comments questioning their sexuality, when really they're just not ready yet or wanting to take their time. We're so used to the idea of a guy taking control and making the first move that anyone who doesn't "must be gay." :rolleyes:

Tenchi just seems like a young guy who is shy, inexperienced and looking for something serious. Plus, there wouldn't be nearly as much of a show if he just slept with Ryoko the first time she got him alone, would there? :wakko:

DR. BELCH
03-19-2002, 12:21 PM
SpaceCub:
Dr. Belch, sorry, but I can only agree partially with you here. Yes, I know that Asian culture is different than ours, but as I stated, he could have nearly any type of girl he desired, even one that would fit his culture. Washoe (or technically Sasami) would be, I think, the best match. However, I never really thought she looked ten (nor 20,000 for that matter). Yes, she could act like a child when it meant she could get out of work, but she always seemed very intelligent and mature to me (except when she wanted to be flattered, as most geniuses do).
It's her height that threw me. I mean, she's what, about five feet tall? Maybe less? Adult woman or not--I'm six-one--the difference'd make me a bit nervous. Any attempt at intimacy would have to be carefully juxtaposed to avoid injury to her. Plus folks'd think it odd she'd have to stand on a chair to kiss me...still, if she's got an nice personality I can overlook the little inconveniences, so to speak.
I try to be a gentleman. I'm willing to just shake hands on the first date, if that's all the girl wants. Plus if Tenchi wants a serious girl, he'd do well to avoid the pirate and the princess. They'd bore of him, or he of them, inside of six months. Go for Washoe, or wait till Tsasami's legal. They're stable girls (though Washoe's cooking skills are lacking...but I'll handle the kitchen duties and let her make household repairs. Sort of throw traditional gender roles around a bit.... ;) )

SpaceCub
03-19-2002, 10:58 PM
Okay AFX, I'd like to reverse the situation on you; suppose six homosexual guys started hitting on you and get all physical, how would you act? Would you just brush it off and act natural? Hell no, you'd look like you were about to have an aneurism, you'd look like Tenchi when the girls are near, you'd look like Jim when Fred gives him a big hug.

And Dr. Belch, I'd hate to get off topic, but look at it this way. I'm 6 foot myself, but I actually prefer short women. Physically, in proportional terms, they are... err, "easier to please" intimately, hehe.

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Guy 1: "Ahhh, I got my finger stuck between two pillows"
Guy 2: "That's not two pillows"
Guy 1: "That's okay, that's not my finger"

TylerL
03-19-2002, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by SpaceCub
Okay AFX, I'd like to reverse the situation on you; suppose six homosexual guys started hitting on you and get all physical, how would you act? Would you just brush it off and act natural? Hell no, you'd look like you were about to have an aneurism, you'd look like Tenchi when the girls are near, you'd look like Jim when Fred gives him a big hug....and to reverse it prematurely, if 6 homosexual guys were hitting on you constantly, wouldn't you tell them outright that you weren't interested? :p

William C. Maune
03-20-2002, 12:05 AM
First, I'll second what TylerL said.

[indent]Next, besides all the other arguments I have made I would like to submit as evidence Tenchi Muyo episode 3, particularly the scenes with Tenchi and Ayeka. The entire part where they are caught in the rain together shows the mutual interest between the two. Plus, there is the part earlier in the episode when Tenchi comments "red blood" upon seeing Ayeka's injury. He had been wondering if anything was even possible with these girls since they were from space and the red blood showed they were at least fairly close biologically.

dawnyoshi
03-20-2002, 12:29 AM
Oooh goodie! I love opinionated posts! :)

First of all, Tenchi is not gay. If you realize it, during the bath house episode of Tenchi Muyo (just on), his nose bleeds after getting a face full of nude Ryoko and Ayeka. If anyone has ever read the laws of anime (I'll try to get it posted sometime), this means he "likes" what he sees, catch my drift? Notice their nose bleeds when they get eyes full of drawings from perverted artists with no lives in Japan?

lol

Basically, he can't react. These girls are from space. One is two-sided, one blows things up, one is a sweet girl, and one is a flakey cop. I am not counting Kiyone or Waschuu, as they show no real interest for Tenchi (Waschu does at times.) So, I think I proved my point decently.

Note: In the end of Muyo, he's more for Ayeka, and it shows.
In Universe, I think he has more of a crush on Ryoko.

VinceA
03-20-2002, 08:06 AM
Washuu shows a lot of interest in Tenchi but a lot is edited out of the Toonami/AS showings. I just got the OVA 'box' set (3 discs) and the show is funnier unedited. Some of the scenes where Washuu is experimenting on Tenchi (while she's wearing a nurse's outfit) are classic :)

StrangerAtaru
03-20-2002, 10:46 AM
I think that the situation that is present is that all of these girls forced themselves into Tenchi's life, all fall for him, and Tenchi wants to know them but chooses not to decide in thinking it will hurt the others. This is probably one of the reasons why Tenchi decides to move out in Tenchi IT: he wants some peace and quiet and possibly to mature and make decisions on his own without it all being thrusted on him.

As for the whole Ryoko/Ayeka are really in love angle, I can somewhat see that. Look at Sasami's fantasy in Time/Space Adventure for one thing. And who knows: maybe both of them going after the same boy is really hiding their feelings from each other.

Madman
03-20-2002, 11:45 AM
Here's my two cent's on this...

From what I've heard about the upcoming 3rd OAV series to Muyo, Tenchi has already choosen which girl he wants. From that interview it was stated that He made up his mind about who he wanted very early on in the series. I think he's holding back as not to hurt the others feelings, plus I think that regardless of how he acts towards them, he does like having them around. He may like Ryoko, but from the way things went in the first episode of the OAV, he's also terrified of her too (which is very understandable). He likes Aeka also, but he may think she's only interested in him because of his Royal Blood. Sasami he likes too, but more so because she isn't constantly throwing herself at him (can't argue that, he does act more civil towards her than any of the other girls). Mihoshi, well... he thinks she's attractive, I don't see him really having any romantic leanings to her. And then there's Washu, with her "experiments" has probably turned him off with her sexual advances thinly veiled as scientific inqueries. As I said before, it is fact (and that's from the creator of the series) that Tenchi has choosen one of them, its just he hasn't had either courage or found the right moment to tell her (whoever she is). Also since its been stated that he will make his choice known in the next set of OAVs. I think that the real question isn't weather Tenchi is gay or not, but more about who will he pick?

OK, I'm done rambling, later peeps :D

SpaceCub
03-21-2002, 01:49 PM
Tyler, haven't you ever heard of a closet homosexual? Tenchi doesn't want to tell anyone which way his door swings becuase he's afraid his dad would kick him out or something. This is why he never tells the girls.

And in repsonse to your reversal, I've never heard of a closet hetero. If 6 guys started hitting on me, I'd tell them that I wasn't interested because I don't think anyone would think less of me to know that I was straight.

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Beat
03-21-2002, 03:27 PM
The last episode of the OVA will have Tenchi coming out of the closet. It's only been suggested a billion times.

SpaceCub
03-21-2002, 04:26 PM
As I stated in my original post, I was only commenting on TM and TU, not Tokyo, not the Movie, and not the friggin' OVA. They don't keep the same plot line, so it can be argued that Tenchi isn't even the same guy.

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VinceA
03-21-2002, 07:13 PM
TM is an OVA (as seen on Toonami it's two OVAs together: episodes 1-7 are the first OVA while episodes 8-13 are the second). It's that plot that will be extended by the the next OVA.

SpaceCub
03-22-2002, 12:33 AM
Sorry Vinny, fogot that TM was an OVA

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Andy Mancini
03-23-2002, 12:21 PM
Man, we must really be bored if 45 people have responded to a "Is Tenchi gay" thread. Well, anything to keep us occupied until we can start making fun of tonight's episode of "Pilot Canidate" is a good thing I guess...

Eikichi
03-25-2002, 11:06 AM
*lloks in thread* *sighs* *shakes head* Im not even gonna answer this.

Spooky05
03-26-2002, 07:15 PM
ok, just because he isn't acting on his attraction to any of the girls dosen't mean he's gay. i am going to bring up the whole 'diffrence in cultures' defense, again.

in japan, its normal to see two girls or two boys walking together hand in hand. that just means they are good friends. BUT for a girl and a boy to walk hand in hand, it isn't as common. if you were born and raised in that culture, you would view things that way as well. its just a diffrent way of living. the lifestyles in japan are reflected in the entertainment they produce, including anime.

randomguy
03-26-2002, 10:25 PM
That's very true. When I lived in Japan, people on the street would just STARE at you if you walked hand in hand with a member of the opposite sex. Kiss and they'd really freak out. Public displays of affection simply aren't taken as casually over there... in fact, even within the family, signs of romance are kept to a minimum. It's simply a different cultural climate over there.

PPRyan
03-28-2002, 02:43 AM
This thread has been hilarious! :D Thanks for keeping me entertained for a while. I wish I only knew how long I've been reading this.

PPRyan
03-28-2002, 02:45 AM
One more thing... this is such a newbie question, but what does OVA mean?

Joe Tully
03-28-2002, 05:25 AM
Originally posted by PPRyan
One more thing... this is such a newbie question, but what does OVA mean?

It means that the series was made as a direct-to-video release.

SpaceCub
03-28-2002, 05:41 AM
Wow, this is still going? That rocks. I feel like I've made a difference in the world.

Anywho, why is it that the girls haven't given up? I mean, Tenchi's just a dork anyway. He's got a pony-tail for cripes-sake (only bikers and Jedi Knights can wear those and be straight btw). His personality is lousy, his granddad has more hospitality. He's unemployed, future plans are priesthood (yes, I understand Shinto priests can marry, but sounds like a boring life to me), and can't even drive a car. He gives them no positive feed back for all their emotion they throw upon him, and like I said, doesn't even seem interested, why don't they give up? Maybe that's why Mihoshi, Kiyone, Nagi, and Ryoko are lesbians (probably)? Either way you slice it, Tenchi's a dork.

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TylerL
03-28-2002, 10:43 AM
Well, a show with him acting "normally" wouldn't be as fun to watch...unless you're into kinky cartoons.

Gyro
03-28-2002, 02:24 PM
Sounds to me like Spacecub has something against Tenchi. Could he be jealous? :)

SpaceCub
03-28-2002, 02:34 PM
Hmmmm, excellent point TylerL. Next series "Tenchi Does Tokyo"

Gyro, I'm more disappointed in Tenchi than jealous or pissed off at him. He's got all these women throwing themselves at him and he does nothing. That's just sad. Same goes for Spike. In the last ep Faye is like "Spike, I want you" and Spike's like "Yeah, I gotta go see if I'm awake, seeya" *Sigh*

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Gyro
03-28-2002, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by SpaceCub
Gyro, I'm more disappointed in Tenchi than jealous or pissed off at him. He's got all these women throwing themselves at him and he does nothing. That's just sad. Same goes for Spike. In the last ep Faye is like "Spike, I want you" and Spike's like "Yeah, I gotta go see if I'm awake, seeya" *Sigh*You missed the point of that entirely. First of all Spike never had any feelings toward Faye, Julia was his woman. Secondly that scene was to show you how Faye's character has evolved over the course of the series. It means that in the end she did care for her comrades after all, not that she "wanted him."

Also I don't feel like replying to the statement about Tenchi because I beleive it has already been covered by the posts above.

Scythemantis
03-28-2002, 06:28 PM
Actually none of them are quite MY type either. Maybe washu, maybe. But that`s stretching it.

WHY do they all like tenchi though!? I`m a hetero male but I DO know a good looking and intelligent/interesting guy when I see one and tenchi is extremely mediocre in every way, particularly personality. Most boring character ever. What`s so special about him!?

Anyone00
03-28-2002, 06:54 PM
Tenchi= Normal guy you're (more likely if you're Japanese) suppose to identify with.
Guy with witch you identify with ends up having super powers and beautiful women chasing after him.
Figure it out.

Gyro
03-28-2002, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by Sting chameleon
WHY do they all like tenchi though!? I`m a hetero male but I DO know a good looking and intelligent/interesting guy when I see one and tenchi is extremely mediocre in every way, particularly personality. Most boring character ever. What`s so special about him!? I've been wondering that for a while now, and have come to the conclusion that: Tenchi is one lucky bastard.

Dark Spider
03-28-2002, 09:55 PM
My take on this is that Tenchi is not gay, but he simply not interested in either of the girls. I'm suprised this topic has turned into a multi-post debate. You are just comparing Tenchi to yourself when you say that when there's 6 women around you, you have to get with them. Tenchi is not your screen representation! He is an idea thought up by someone, based off a personality type. So what if its not your personality and you can't relate to his ideals. Thats not the point of Tenchi. He was meant to entertain, not to represent the majority of the male population.

Now as for Kiyone...
I've been hearing some stuff about her in this thread. It seems some of you think that she may be a lesbian do to relationship with Mihoshi. Well, I hate to break it to you, but she is married to me, so she can't possibly be that way (I should know). But seriously, they are just partners in law. They stick with each other because that's all they have.

Kesh
03-29-2002, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by Gyro
I've been wondering that for a while now, and have come to the conclusion that: Tenchi is one lucky bastard.

Well, I think he's cute. So there. :wakko:

SpaceCub
03-29-2002, 04:51 AM
Gyro, I got the whole point in TRFB #2, but I still find it depressing. I know Spike never had feeling towards Faye (eh, there may have been some chemistry between the two) but using the old "If I were him" ploy, it's not so hard to see why I get so frustrated. As for Faye wanting to be more than a "comrade" with Spike, personally I think she's had the hots for him since they first met, and would have been perfectly happy playing house for the next 50 years (of course what kind of cheap-ass ending would that have been?).

Argh, Tenchi is not cute. Your TV must be out of focus. He's a dork with no special characteristics (except for being luckier than a Lepracaun beaten to death with horse shooes). As suggested by someone else, he's supposed to be like your average guy who had all these unaverage things happens to him. Some say that makes it more interesting, but for me it's just depressing.

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