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Kenshirou
03-10-2002, 08:32 PM
Click here to review "History"! (http://adultswim.toonzone.net/episodes/episodes-hm23.php)
Click here to review "Wanda Moves Up"! (http://adultswim.toonzone.net/episodes/episodes-bb10.php)
Click here to review "Day in the Life of Ranger Smith"! (http://adultswim.toonzone.net/episodes/episodes-yogi1.php)
Click here to review "BooBoo Goes Wild"! (http://adultswim.toonzone.net/episodes/episodes-yogi2.php)

IkeTheMachine
03-10-2002, 10:29 PM
WOW!
I can't believe all of that action and hilarity was in ONE home movies. The music, the comedy...

*sigh*

That was orgasmic.
A+++

randomguy
03-10-2002, 10:36 PM
Oh good lord, that was TERRIBLE. Sorry, but that's my least favorite HM episode ever. It was the first to actually dedicate more screentime to Brendan's movie than the real world (about a 3:1 ratio or so), which isn't a bad idea, but the movie wasn't funny enough to hold up that much time. Brendan's films work best when they're short segments that hold up the rest of the episode, not the other way around. There wasn't much plot, no screentime for the regulars (though McGuirk and Paula did get in a good line or two), and Brendan's movie was jarringly overproduced. Did anybody else here notice that it was full of studio caliber special effects? There were enormous backdrops and laser effects and editing which is damn near well impossible without proffessional equipment. It didn't jive with the under budget crappy look of most of Brendan's films. Anyway, just a way boring episode overall, with a paper-thin premise and sub-par humor. I don't know if it was just that I was watching Denis Leary's "The Job" beforehand (which happens to be the best and funniest show on television right now), but this episode just didn't seem up to HM standards. I give it a D.

IkeTheMachine
03-10-2002, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by randomguy
Did anybody else here notice that it was full of studio caliber special effects?

It was that zaniness that made it work wonderfully.

Detra
03-10-2002, 10:44 PM
Another terrific episode, a bit different though. The starboy movie was great, the "Mr. Pants" song was hilarious. McGuirk's "odd" historical knowledge was funny aswell. My one nitpick is something that randomguy said aswell, the special effects. Alot of the humour in Brendon's movies is the fact that they're so crappily made. Go back and watch "The Dark side of the Law", and then watch this one. BIG differance.

Galaxia
03-10-2002, 10:57 PM
::sniff:: I...missed....it...and everyone's saying how good it was! :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( U_U

Starboy
03-10-2002, 11:02 PM
In the Coyote vs. Roadrunner cartoons, when the coyote goes over a cliff, he doesn’t fall until looks down and realizes it. That’s not realistic at all... Then he is given a couple of seconds to look into the camera, wave, and maybe even hold up a sign. I find this totally incongruous with what I see in real life.

And when a Looney Tunes character gets hit in the head with a hammer, he doesn’t die of blunt trauma to the head. Instead, a bald hairy lump, about six inches tall, sprouts from his head.

And when Daffy gets shot in the face, his bill is simply misplaced, which he fixes. He doesn’t die like he would in real life.

And when they mishandle explosives, they end up smoldering, naked, flesh-colored, and gathering their fur or feathers from the ground. In real life, they would’ve died. End of cartoon. And they wouldn’t be able re-attach their fur and feathers.

Get over it. It’s a friggin’ cartoon. As long as it’s funny, nothing else matters.

ZorBrak
03-10-2002, 11:07 PM
Frankly, I did not like this HM episode, it was decent but it was not up to the normal level of hillarity....HEY I JUST HIT MY 500TH POST YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

randomguy
03-10-2002, 11:08 PM
You're missing the point. Looney Tunes and Home Movies are totally different shows all together. Looney Tunes is a lighthearted childrens show (clever, yes, but still a kid's show) and Home Movies is a sitcom. One is real-life, one isn't. That's why you expect Home Movies to have at least some sort of continuity. It's difficult to keep that suspension-of-disbelief-thing up with Brendan's movie in this ep., and that's important. There's more to the show than comedy alone (which Brendan's Choice and The Party proved), so you can't just fling realism out the window in the name of laughs. And besides, how can you say that it doesn't have to be realistic because it's just a cartoon? Would you expect to see stuff that jarring in Cowboy Bebop? Course not. Realism may or may not exist in an animated shows world, but once you've made that decision, you gotta stick by it.

IkeTheMachine
03-10-2002, 11:12 PM
The whole point was that this movie had so many props and over-the-top bg's. The argument was that he was spending too much time on his movies. See, it's on purpose.

Plus, the special fx were pretty shoddy and funny anyway.

Jack
03-11-2002, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by randomguy
Looney Tunes is a lighthearted childrens show (clever, yes, but still a kid's show)
Gads, when did it become a childrens show?

Mibbitmaker
03-11-2002, 12:08 AM
My sympathies are with Jack here.

Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies were made for a general audience back in the '30s-'60s. Kids AND adults. More for the people who made them than anything.

How 'bout that Spumco, huh? :) :D

...and :o :eek: (in a good way)

Matt Hazuda
03-11-2002, 12:28 AM
Well in case you missed it, they're re-airing tonite's Home Movies right now.

Calhoun07
03-11-2002, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by MDawg957
Well in case you missed it, they're re-airing tonite's Home Movies right now.

Actually, I am mad about that. I wanted to see a repeat, if not of an earlier episode from this season then at least a classic episode from last season. Grrrrrrr...

Tonight's episode was OK, but I feel it was the weakest episode so far. This is the episode that made me wonder if they could sustain the humor for season three. But I am confident this is just a bump in the road, and as a whole, the series is awesome.

JTurner954
03-11-2002, 12:38 AM
Home Movies: ROFL. LOLOLOLOLOL

Oh, man this was so funny. It was as if the crew who did Space Ghost Coast 2 Coast and The Brak Show came up with it.

My favorite two scenes:

The first involved "Picasso" (cut off his ear in a shaving accident;sent it in the mail to his ex-girlfriend).

The second was McGuirk talking about Area 52 ("It's also a porn movie"). Overall grade: A (tempted to say plus)


Baby Blues: Well, it was ok. It was pretty obvious that Darryl and Wanda would go back to their original roles, but they involved the neighbors more often so I was ok with it (loved the Howard Stern gag). Overall grade: C

Ranger Smith: Why oh why was this on here?? I did not find anything funny there. I'm not a fan of ATHF, but at least they were going for jokes (and some were funny). This has nothing funny going on at all. This has got to be the worst Adult Swim show I have ever seen. OVerall grade for both shows: F

The Jetsons: Pretty much same as above. This time they tried jokes, but again it failed. I immediately knew that the shaving device would go hayware. Take this emotion :o and take out the rosy cheeks and that's how I felt watching this and Ranger Smith (no expression). Another F grade for this show too. Note: If they put these shows on because of most of my negative comments of Welcome to Eltingville, then PLEASE BRING BACK WELCOME TO
ELTINGVILLE. Eltingville is so much better.

ATHF and Sealab 2021: You know, I've only seen Adult Swim for maybe 2 months and I'm sad to see a repeat of both of these shows. But as long as there is no more Jetsons or Ranger Smith, I am happy.

Home Movies at 12:30: YAYYY, they repeated tonight's earlier episode.

One last note: They have got to put Home Movies on DVD (Same for Sealab 2021). Everytime I see these two shows, they get better and better.

Karva
03-11-2002, 12:43 AM
...

Come on, that Home Movies episode was the best ever. It was funny from begining to end and never let up.

You people... You don't know quality when you see it.

But... Yeah.

Anyway, I didn't watch Baby Blues...

But onto the Spumco shorts:

I liked them all! They were all well animated and funny... What more do you need?! And for what was originally flash episodes for the web, the Jetsons shorts were very well done. I couldn't have asked for more, really. Plus Jane had really well defined and big breasts... I just wanted to mention that.

But no Judy?! What was Spumco thinking?!

Anyway, overall great night of Adult Swim.... And oh yeah, Baby Blues.... Right.

livingfruitvirus
03-11-2002, 12:51 AM
We did find out tonight that Brendon has digital movie editing software. So it may have had sfx capability. Maybe he has Flash. Hehe.

Calhoun07
03-11-2002, 01:05 AM
Oh, man this was so funny. It was as if the crew who did Space Ghost Coast 2 Coast and The Brak Show came up with it.

You know, there were a couple songs in tonight's episode...I forget how they went now...that really reminded me of Brak's songs.

JTurner954
03-11-2002, 01:15 AM
Karva: Look at my first post.

Calhoun: Yes, those songs reminded me of Brak. I liked how Jason was "the captain from Outer Space" yet Brendon's character made all the decisions. Also, when they went to see where hot dogs were made, it almost felt like something Monty Pyhton would do (same things goes for killing the humans with rocks).


Hey, did anyone else enjoy the homage to Superman 2 at the end??

BADBATZ
03-11-2002, 02:02 AM
Originally posted by JTurner954

Hey, did anyone else enjoy the homage to Superman 2 at the end??

Yeah, and it feels like I was picking up on it happening even before the end, cause was I was feeling the evil Kryptonian three vibe from the villians through the whole thing. The Phantom Zone rip just sealed the deal.

Superman 2 references = Maximum fun.

Scythemantis
03-11-2002, 04:58 AM
For some reason my favorite thing in the entire HM episode was the music during the early scenes of the villains. Everything the villains said was hilarious, too...funniest episode yet.

Ranger smith was funny, but I already saw it ages ago, and the jetsons seemed pointless... not much really happened other than replacing elroy with a robot. Mwahaha.

spectre316
03-11-2002, 05:34 AM
Darn! I missed HM! I can't believe I did this... I fell asleep at 9:30. 30 MINUTES BEFORE THE EPSIDODE AIRED! God!

Zorakfan
03-11-2002, 06:25 AM
Wow, I'm actually loving this new season. Too bad season 1 turned me off so much. Sundays episode was he BEST. HM. EVER.

Get them, Mr. Pants!

*And no Josie. Yipee! Go Yatta!

Jimmy Kustes
03-11-2002, 07:03 AM
I thought the video game company, Rare, owned the rights to"Mr. Pants". Anyone play that Star Boy game on www.adultswim.com?

I always like Adult Swim Comedy so I'll just say what I thought of the commercials:

Best new commercial: Suncoast
Worst new commercial: Shell

Sisto Kid
03-11-2002, 10:20 AM
Dear fellow posters, (and you know who you are)


In reading the negative reviews of last nights HM episode, I constantly have to keep reminding myself of our country's constitutional right of free speech and that everybody has a right to their own opinion.

Ahem...that said, here's mine...

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? "HISTORY" WAS QUITE POSSIBLY THE FUNNIEST EPISODE OF HOME MOVIES SO FAR, AND ALL I READ ARE A BUNCH OF DRONING ABOUT HOW IT WASN'T VERY GOOD, HOW IT DOESN'T BODE WELL FOR THE SHOW'S FUTURE, YAK, YAK, BLAH, BLAH,...

WHAT KIND OF CRACK ARE YOU GUYS SMOKING? IF YOU DIDN'T THINK THAT LAST NIGHT'S EPISODE OF HM WAS FUNNY, THEN YOU'VE GOT SERIOUS PROBLEMS NOTHING SHORT OF A PREFRONTAL LOBOTOMY WILL CURE!!!

(note to moderators: yes, I know I'm shouting. Sorry. Just excercising MY constitutional right of free speech.)

dolphin917
03-11-2002, 01:29 PM
Home Movies:
A very funny episode. I enjoyed it thoroughly. Again, the new direction of the show is much more entertaining. Coach McGuirk: Always funny. Grade: A

Baby Blues:
I love this show. I really do. I just wish they wouldn't go to extremes with the situations like they do sometimes. The napping store was a bit much, I think. Grade: B

Ranger Smith:
Aside from a couple of moments of hilarity, this show fails spectacularly. It was, for the most part, unfunny. Is it really necessary to drive every single gross-out gag right into the ground? This guy has no sense of timing whatsoever. A couple of the sight gags were funny, and the BooBoo/Yogi thing was pretty funny. Aside from that, it just sucked. Please, no more. Grade: F

The Jetsons:
Again, a moment or two of hilarity, 20 minutes of clock-watching. This wasn't as bad as Ranger Smith, but it still wasn't very good. I felt relieved when ATHF came on. I thought "I'm glad that's over with. No more, no more. Grade: D

Killtacular
03-11-2002, 02:12 PM
You may have the right to free speech, but the rules say to not insult the other posters' decisions. So don't.

skojoe
03-11-2002, 03:18 PM
Home Movies- missed it the first time around

Baby Blues- missed

Ranger Smith- I personally did not enjoy this program and I think that it might be better off as a part of CCF or something rather then AdultSwim which I think should be cartoons that people under of the age of 18(as they say) should not watch not things that are Y-7... but as long as some people out there enjoed it.

Jetsons- everything I said for Ranger Smith goes for the Jetsons as well... not really bad but not really funny in my opinion.

Aqua Teen Hunger Force- You can not ever be disappointed with a classic episode such as RABBOT.

Sealab- not my favorite sealab episode but still very funny and entertaining

Home Movies- This has to be one of the best episodes yet... it was nonstop laughter for the entire episode... the part about the rocks... and The History lessons in general from Coach McGuirk Mr. Lynch and even the History lessons that they talked about in the movie... and the thought of George Washington as being evil... all in all this one was on the ball.


overveiw: not the best AS night ever but not the worst either home movies and ATHF/Sealab saved the day.

Cactusjack1999
03-11-2002, 03:21 PM
Home Movies - Not a bad episode. Though one thing bothers me, if Paula doesn't have a job how the heck would they afford a professional video editor with CG effects? Those things cost like aroud $3000. The superman 2 reference was a classic too. FINAL GRADE - B+

Baby Blues - Pretty funny episode. THe Jimmy Walker alarm clock was pretty kewl. But the whole thing with 3 K's kinda ruined it for me (If you don't know what this means you didn't pass high school) Still a pretty good episode. FIANL GRADE -B-

Spumco Block
---------------------------
A Day in the life of Ranger Smith - I've seen it before so it's nothing new to me. FINAL GRADE C

BooBoo Gone Wild - God I saw this before and it sucked. I saw it again and guess what? FINAL GRADE D-

Father and Son Day - The only reason I can see now is cause I couldn't find a sharp object to jab into my eyes after seeing this. FINAL GRADE - F

Bad Son - After seeing 5 seconds of this I wish I owned a shotgun cause I wanted to blow my brains out. I swear to god this is the worst cartoon ever made. Hey Matt can I grade this lower than an "F"?? Well to hell with it FINAL GRADE Z-

Sisto Kid
03-11-2002, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by Matt Wilson
You may have the right to free speech, but the rules say to not insult the other posters' decisions. So don't.

Fine, Matt. I'll take my man-pill and apologize.

Seriously, though, I don't and WON'T apologize for saying that last night's episode of Home Movies was funny as hell.

I DO apologize for calling those who don't agree with me a bunch of lobotmized crack-heads...even if it IS true...
:D

That was a joke, Matt. Lighten up. ;)

Shnay
03-11-2002, 03:43 PM
I really fail to see how this could be considered the "BEST HM EPISODE EVER" by any stretch of the imagination. I came to this board expecting people to be relentless in their reviews of this episode, and I find that most of the people love it. I'm going to give my arguement about why this show was the weakest Home Movies episode yet, and I have yet to hear a convincing arguement that says otherwise, so if you disagree, please tell me why.

Home Movies has never placed its focus solely upon Brendan's movies. This episode was driven only by his movie, which added nothing to any of the characters, and failed comically. One of the reasons that his movies normally work is that we get to see the interactions between Brenden, Melissa, and Jason. We see confrontations, complications, confusion, and sometimes, disapointment. The movies work to develop the characters as well as providing comedy that is different from the main story.

Now, I'm not saying all humor has to be character driven or that it has to make sense. I love The Brak Show and ATHF, but they both don't use one strange joke over a half an hour show. The comedy in Brenden's movies, which is usually different from the comedy when he is interacting with adults, is best in short, focused incrimints.

But, in theory, one of his movies could be the focus of a show, if it was good enough. This one was not. The Starboy movie was weak to begin with, and was only saved by the scene with the band. So, they chose to extend this into a near half hour show, making something that wasn't that great to begin with even worse by extending it for so long.

Also, without the cheap production values, the movie loses its charm. Yes, the graphics and sound effects were cheesy, but there is no way that Brenden should be making movies using an editing machine.

And finally, as I said before, some of the best parts of his movies are seeing what goes into them, not the final product. We didn't see any of the other characters discussing this "odd" project, which left the movie with an "empty" feel.

I would have been kinder in my review, but I just can't stand by idly while people call this the best episode ever. I'm all for expressing opinions, so if someone wants to dispute this, please be my guest.

skojoe
03-11-2002, 03:58 PM
I understand why you could say that because thinking about it this was an entirely different kind of episode with the primary focus being the Star boy and the Captain of Outerspace movie. I think that the reason that this episode was so loved and almost equally hated is because it was different. When things change there are always those who think that it was better and those who do not agree with the change (even if they did not really realize the change until now). I personally liked the new episode but fully realize that all the episodes can not primarily focus on the movie but I think that it was a good change even if it is just this one time. but that is just how I see it.

Shnay
03-11-2002, 04:08 PM
I also see your point, skojoe, that it could be considered just a fun little one time thing. But, for me, it just failed to deliver the usual level of comedy in the movies. And if they're trying to make an entire show out of one movie, they should be sure to make it a good movie. And, while some obviously think it was great, I thought it really fell flat.

Also, I'd like to take this time to review the rest of the shows.

Baby Blues: This episode went far beyond any past episode in terms of quality. While I enjoyed past episodes, this was the first one, in my opinion, that was funny throughout. This was the first time I ever enjoyed Baby Blues more than Home Movies.

The Spumco Cartoons: They're pretty much what I expected. Which isn't meant exactly as a criticism or a complement. It was just...I don't know, decent.

Sealab/ATHF: Good, oldskool Adult Swim comedy. These were the first episodes most of us saw, and while we definately need some new content, it's still great to see these very funny first episodes.

Scythemantis
03-11-2002, 04:08 PM
Um...everyone, the ranger smith cartoons are in no way a new series or pilot. They premiered as a special presentation on cn YEARS ago... and this was just a special re-airing. The ones they played are the only ones that ever have/will exist!

And oddly enough, I didnt notice a SINGLE gross-out joke in the entire spumco block... What did you all think was "gross?" I think i`ve been too desensitized to understand :P

Anyway Shnay (heehee. That`s fun to say.) I fully understand your reasoning why the episode stunk, but those are all the reasons I liked it. I wouldnt like the show to do this all the time, but i`m sure they don`t intend to. I thought the movie was more than funny and weird enough to be his "big" project... yes, a lot of the fun is how his SHORT films are integrated into the plot, but it was cute to see his attempt at "big budget" as a whole episode.

livingfruitvirus
03-11-2002, 04:15 PM
Who wants a song? Download here (950 kb). (http://omnimation.keenspace.com/Home Movies - Mr. Pants.mp3)

Shnay
03-11-2002, 04:20 PM
First off, I'd just like to say that I'm glad most of us are staying civil in discussing our opinions.

Originally posted by Sting chameleon
Anyway Shnay (heehee. That`s fun to say.) I fully understand your reasoning why the episode stunk, but those are all the reasons I liked it. I wouldnt like the show to do this all the time, but i`m sure they don`t intend to. I thought the movie was more than funny and weird enough to be his "big" project... yes, a lot of the fun is how his SHORT films are integrated into the plot, but it was cute to see his attempt at "big budget" as a whole episode.

I think I would enjoy a "big budget" picture of Brenden's more if he had plans to make something that big, but ran into tons of problems in his execution. I think there would be more comedy in watching the kids attempting to construct a crude wire device for flying, rather than actually watching them use it in the movie.

Also, I'm not against everything in the movie. It definately had it's moments, but I just felt that there were many things that could have been greatly improved upon here.

atf487
03-11-2002, 04:27 PM
Home Movies: Random. Very Random. I saw no point to this episode, but It was very funny. Really, it was funny. Brendon singing is just really humerous, and you know it. Lack of plot though, so it gets a B. And it is a show. Not to be taken that seriously. It wasn't made for some of the stuff you implied, it was a comedy show....

MR PANTS.

Behonkiss
03-11-2002, 04:33 PM
I wasn't expecting a lot from HM after its simple promo, but man....I don't care what others say, I just loved it. When my brother and I heard the following, we laughed for about 5 minutes:

"The question was, 'Who was the first president?' You put Yes. And then for 'Who wrote<Some novel, forgot it>?' and you put, 'The Pope's cousin, Count Popula, a magical monster with pencils for ams.'"

:D

JTurner954
03-11-2002, 05:04 PM
LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Over 16 hours later and that Home Movies episode is still funny. I think this is the only time that I found Walter and Perry funny. I think they proved enough that Brendon put more time intio the movie than his class work. But, for those who said that it would have been funnier if they showed how they made it, look at it again. There are MANY parts were they are just improvising(especially the people dropping into the pit). Doesn't it prove that they made it up while it went along (Complement song, The second Mr. Pants song ["kitty, kitty,kitty"], interlude to the making of hot dogs )?

I wish someone would post a poll asking who loved yesterday's Home Movies episode. This was just too funny. I laughed more in this episode than any other. Does it make me think it's the Best Home Movies episode?? Hmm, I don't know (not being sarcastic).

Ok, I'm going back to laughing just thinking of that episode. LOL......

Shnay
03-11-2002, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by atf487
And it is a show. Not to be taken that seriously. It wasn't made for some of the stuff you implied, it was a comedy show....


Yes, I understand that it is "just comedy," but just becuase I didn't find something that funny doesn't mean I'm taking a show too seriously. I thought this show had some great moments (particularly "Count Popula") but I just didn't like the majority of the episode.

Also, let me say again, that I love random humor. The Brak Show, ATHF, Sealab, Space Ghost, these all use very random humor, and these are some of my favorite shows. I just didn't think this episode had particularly good random humor. But, I'm obviously in a very small minority here.

Calhoun07
03-11-2002, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by Sisto Kid


Fine, Matt. I'll take my man-pill and apologize.

Seriously, though, I don't and WON'T apologize for saying that last night's episode of Home Movies was funny as hell.

I DO apologize for calling those who don't agree with me a bunch of lobotmized crack-heads...even if it IS true...
:D

That was a joke, Matt. Lighten up. ;)

We can lighten up on the boards, but nobody can pick up on how you intend a post to be read when you post things like this. All caps, some rather hateful statements....I was gonna delete it but saw Matt addressed it.

This isn't to just you, but to anybody on the boards. USE SMILIES! That doesn't give you the right to flat out insult other members of this board because they may not agree with your reviews, but if you use smilies when you are joking around, it helps convey when you are just joking.

And I'm sorry, but for the past several weeks, every episode of Home Movies has been the "best ever!" Are you just saying that or do you mean it? :)

Sisto Kid
03-11-2002, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by Calhoun07


We can lighten up on the boards, but nobody can pick up on how you intend a post to be read when you post things like this. All caps, some rather hateful statements....I was gonna delete it but saw Matt addressed it.

This isn't to just you, but to anybody on the boards. USE SMILIES! That doesn't give you the right to flat out insult other members of this board because they may not agree with your reviews, but if you use smilies when you are joking around, it helps convey when you are just joking.

And I'm sorry, but for the past several weeks, every episode of Home Movies has been the "best ever!" Are you just saying that or do you mean it? :)

Ok, ok, ok, guys, I've eaten my crow with a side order of humble pie! :o

And yes, IMO, (almost) every episode of Home Movies has been pretty kick-ass so far. And I didn't say that "History " was the best episode ever (that honor still belongs to "Mortgages and Marbles" with the one about the school nurse ranking a close second.

But it WAS FUNNY! The songs, the whole "Starboy" movie, the "tutoring" session with McGurk! Say what you will, it was FUNNY!!! (Yes, Shnay, I'm talking to you) And you gotta understand, I wrote my post at 7:45 am when I got into work this morning (I always arrive 15 min. early, just in case) and when I pulled up the site to see what other people had to say, all I saw was nag, nag, nag, rag, rag, rag.

And I was tired, I didn't have my cup of coffee yet, and I just felt like doing a little venting. Yes, I know, maybe I went a little too far, but from I've seen, I haven't been the WORST offender on this board. Not only that, at least I was erring on the side of positivity (because I liked the episode, not because I wanted to make other people feel like crap because they DID like it, like I have seen far too many times on this board.)

So can we officially say Sisto learned his lesson and move on? Please? :D

P.S. On a DIFFERENT note, did anyone check out Mr. Pants (Dwayne, looking very stylish in a cat-man outfit) doing his break-dancing routine? I guess those choreography lessons with Cynthia paid off, eh? ;)

Calhoun07
03-11-2002, 07:01 PM
I think the Mr Pants sequences were the strongest in the episode, IMO. I just loved those.

And it's all good, Sisto. I told ya it was to all that thing about the smilies. Sometimes we get a batch of new people in here and we just have to toss a reminder out there now and then to remember to use those lest you be taken wrong. Heck, even I have failed to use smilies in the past and found I inadvertedly stepped on toes, so don't get all worried about it! I've had to eat my share of humble pie, as well! :D

Shnay
03-11-2002, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by Sisto Kid
Say what you will, it was FUNNY!!! (Yes, Shnay, I'm talking to you)

Yes, I know that most people who are talking about how great it is are talking to me. I've never been in this position on this board before, being the only one on a side of a debate. I thought someone was going to get my back in this discussion, but I guess not.

I really hate to sound negative about the show since I really do love this show. In fact, it's because I love it so much that I was so disapointed with the last episode. Oh well, there's always next week...

(Now I know how all the Pilot Candidate fans feel. :D )

Calhoun07
03-11-2002, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by Shnay


Yes, I know that most people who are talking about how great it is are talking to me. I've never been in this position on this board before, being the only one on a side of a debate. I thought someone was going to get my back in this discussion, but I guess not.

I really hate to sound negative about the show since I really do love this show. In fact, it's because I love it so much that I was so disapointed with the last episode. Oh well, there's always next week...

(Now I know how all the Pilot Candidate fans feel. :D )

Don't feel alone, Shnay...I didn't care that much for this week's HM as much as I liked previous weeks. There were some good moments, but I would not put it up there in the best ever category!

dolphin917
03-11-2002, 07:54 PM
Now I know how all the Pilot Candidate fans feel

No, you don't. Pilot Candidate fans are a rare breed of human who are so disillusioned with themselves and so anxious to be the said "expert" on ANYTHING, they'll watch crap like Pilot Candidate and think it's good. I verbally pummel Pilot Candidate fans because they so richly deserve it. Very few animes are as bad as this one.

The thing about Home Movies is that you either like it or you don't. The people who like it (like me) can be somewhat... rabid at times in defense of this show. Those who don't like Home Movies don't just dislike it, they hate it. Home Movies is not for everyone. Some people just can't jive with it for whatever reason.

Shnay
03-11-2002, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by dolphin917
[comments deleted-Calhoun07]

Whoa. That's pretty harsh. Maybe you should read Calhoun's post about joking on the board.

Calhoun07
03-11-2002, 09:27 PM
Maybe it's time for some posters here to read the RULES (http://forums.toonzone.net/misc.php?s=&action=showrules) .

There is room here to disagree, but don't bash fans for their views. Flame wars will not be tolerated here. Now, let's get back on topic.

Eddy
03-11-2002, 09:36 PM
I loved that episode of Home Movies! I don't see whats with allt his "real life" stuff. I loved it anyway.

dolphin917
03-12-2002, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by Shnay


Whoa. That's pretty harsh. Maybe you should read Calhoun's post about joking on the board.

I wasn't aware that excessive humor and biting sarcasm were banned from this forum.

Calhoun07
03-12-2002, 12:18 AM
The post he is referring to is the post about using smilies. It can be found here. (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?postid=194115#post194115). Also check out the rules and about respecting posters. What may be humor to one is an insult to another, and since these boards are shared by others, what looks like an insult to others will be deleted. There is no reason to attack fans of a show as it is, even in the guise of humor. People say insulting things all the time and the defense "I'm just kidding" doesn't fly very well when feelings get hurt. And I don't think sarcasm is the best kind of humor to use on the boards. I have learned from personal experience that sarcasm is never taken well.

Now...back on topic please.

DJRed
03-12-2002, 07:50 AM
Wow.... I have nothing to say about the shows

just jeeeeeeeeez. Am I in the army all of a sudden? I've been reading this debate going on.... wow who knew that a message baord would need to be so strict...

hahaha... but I laugh at the anger of others so bring it on people!

DJRed
03-12-2002, 08:05 AM
oh and i fogot to add that everyone should relize that sarcasm is all about the delivery. At least that's how i see it. I use sarcasm all the time but when you write it... well i've had quite a few problems beacause people misread my sarcasm. If they don't read it they way i write it then the whole joke is lost forever.

but uhh... right... back on topic.

I always love all of Adult Swim.
But God do i HATE HATE HATE those damn spumco works of garbage. Why can't they be creative like Williams Street? Why do they take these charcaters and just make it all so ugly. Couldn't they try to draw well. I suppose it was on purpose. Which just makes it worse. How in the hell is goerge jetson, yogi bear, and the flintstones (on the rocks), supposed to be funny. It just a dumb character making an ass of itself. It's so.....eck. I hate it. I'm not great at explaining it but i know it's terrible. I'm glad to see that many agree.
Stuff like this was done very well on ren&stimpy but witht his it's just the sight gags and nothing more. and site gags suck when you can't stand looking at them.
I guess that's simply it.
eh....

Sisto Kid
03-12-2002, 11:27 AM
I was glad to hear of John K. coming out of semi-exile back into maistream TV again. The creator of Ren and Stimpy and the guy who forsaw the GOOD version of Mighty Mouse (along with Ralph Bashki)is gonna be on Adult Swim? Cool!

But after seeing the re-workings of Yogi Bear and the Jetsons, I was thoroughly dissapointed. Not because I saw those characters as sacred cows, mind you, but because they just weren't funny. I don't mind irreverence, I don't mind gross-out sight gags. IF THEY'RE FUNNY!!!

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

Rabbot
03-12-2002, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by IkeTheMachine
The whole point was that this movie had so many props and over-the-top bg's. The argument was that he was spending too much time on his movies. See, it's on purpose.

Plus, the special fx were pretty shoddy and funny anyway.

Good call, IkeTheMachine. I was really unhappy with "History" until I realized I realized the very same thing! The fact that the ep was so heavily slanted toward the movie itself was the gag! Christ, I felt dim when I finally got that...

--Z

Shnay
03-12-2002, 03:12 PM
I'm going to make what (I hope) will be my final responses. I know I've said more than my fair share here, and I hope everybody isn't sick of me. If you are, I apologize.

Originally posted by dolphin917

I wasn't aware that excessive humor and biting sarcasm were banned from this forum.

There's nothing wrong with sarcasm. In fact, I use it frequently and think that it's really the best kind of comedy. But, when you say something along the lines of Pilot Candidate fans deserving violent beatings (these comments were deleted) on a board where you know people like the show, you should realize it's only going to cause problems. I don't like PC. But rather than involving barbed wire, (also deleted) you can either discuss why you don't like it, or give some indication that you are joking, since there is no way to hear someone's delivery. I just took this as a joke, but with a comment like that, you should realize that some people won't.

I was really unhappy with "History" until I realized I realized the very same thing! The fact that the ep was so heavily slanted toward the movie itself was the gag! Christ, I felt dim when I finally got that...

I understand that was the gag, but...I guess that I just thought the gag itself was kind of weak. The promo for next week's show look's really good though. I'm looking forward to Miguirk's drunken antics.

That's all from me on that...Now, let's get a new topic going.

Anybody have anything to say about Baby Blues? I thought this was the best episode yet, and that it unfortunately got overshadowed by this "debate" and the John K. cartoons. Anyone else like this episode?

Cactusjack1999
03-12-2002, 03:13 PM
No, you don't. Pilot Candidate fans are a rare breed of human who are so disillusioned with themselves and so anxious to be the said "expert" on ANYTHING, they'll watch crap like Pilot Candidate and think it's good. I verbally pummel Pilot Candidate fans because they so richly deserve it. Very few animes are as bad as this one.

I'm a PC fan so shut the heck up. I claim to be no expert on anything, I just watch anime cause I like it. It's called freedom of choice.


Will a mod please delete that topic cause I find it personally offensive

Rabbot
03-12-2002, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by Shnay


I understand that was the gag, but...I guess that I just thought the gag itself was kind of weak. The promo for next week's show look's really good though. I'm looking forward to Miguirk's drunken antics.


Hey, Scnay, different strokes for different folks, y'know? :) And speakin' personally, I'm certainly not sick of you. I think all of your posts on this subject have been well thought out and a pleasure to read, and even when things got a little hairy here, you maintained a level head.

And on a lighter note, how can I not look forward to more drunken McGuirk? :D

--Z

J-chan
03-12-2002, 05:15 PM
I'm just going to ignore all the chatter and arguing for now, 'cos this is my first chance to review since Sunday and gosh darn it, I don't want to be influenced by comments. So I'm not backing anyone up or putting anyone down, okay?

Home Movies: I liked it, I really did. I loved the movie, loved Mr. Pants, loved the villains' dialogue, loved the songs. ^^ I wish I'd taped the episode for my sister because she would have really gotten a kick out of the songs. I just wish there'd been a bit more McGuirk, his ideas in the ep were funny. I confess that sometimes I'd like to see more of the movies than the rest of the show, after this one I think I'm set for awhile.

Baby Blues: This is actually one of my favorite shows on Adult Swim, falling just short of ATHF and Sealab 2021. It was nice getting the neighbor's wife (I forgot her name ^^;) more involved in plot.. I would have bought a novelty clam! It did seem really unrealistic that the business would grow so much, though. Kenny brought in a few nice moments. I like him, always has something funny to say or do.

Range Smith/Jetsons: I'd seen the Boo Boo Runs Wild cartoon once before, and it was nice to see the others. I wasn't as fond of the Jetsons ones as the Ranger Smith ones, but then again I never really liked the Jetsons in the first place.. *shrug* I've always been a Spumco fan anyhow. I don't think they should show any more of these on Adult Swim though.. it doesn't really have the same humor.

ATHF: Meat bridge and the Jambox. "Slow down, you wanna get us all killed? Is that what you want?" First episode I ever saw, and it's still one of my favorites. The only one I like better is the Bus of the Undead.

Sealab: Not my favorite, but it didn't suck. Murphy's moustache thing is always funny. ^^ And it ends so randomly. I like random. Lots.

Now.. back to waiting until NEXT Sunday.

Bebop2168
03-12-2002, 10:02 PM
HM: great ep , funny , invetive. excellent. : A+ :D



Baby Blues: funny , but not as good as some other eps. still great. : A- :)



Ranger Smith : stupid, pointless. i clicked it off like 5 min into it . bad bad badddddddddddd. : F! :eek:


JEtsons: see ranger smith review : F! :eek:

chibilain
03-12-2002, 10:10 PM
I can post now....I rejoice. *weeps...for means of rejoicing*
A-hem.
As you may or may not have noticed, I'm new here, and this board has a few more...rules than I'm use to. Please be patient with lil ole me, but I promise, I'm a good girl. -(^o^)-
In any case, I just want to comment on the John K. shorts. To be honest? As much as I adore Spumco's stuff, i was actually quite disappointed with these. (Shh! Don't tell them at the spumco boards! I go there too, and, there's currently a bit of a debate/blood bath going on about whether they were fine or awful. And, i like my pride and organs being intack.) The first Ranger Smith one did have its funny points("A great companion is my log....cabin."), but admittedly it wasn't the laugh out loud funny that I normally expect from Spumco. The second one was also funny/strange(I snickered as Yogi removed Ranger Smith's hand from his leg), but still, I was kinda hoping for a bit more. Due to homework requirements (I finished THAT essay in a record 15 minutes!), i missed the first Jetsons short and only caught the last few minutes of the second one. Maybe I missed something vital, but boy oh boy that was strange. A short, fat Elroy sitting in his briefs in a jar of goo? Now, I'm all for strange and random (Bizzaro Santa. Need I say more?)but it was just...not very funny.
The only other thing I got to watch last Sunday before I went to bed was ATHF, and that one always amuses me. Frylocke: "Why is there hair growing on these pants?" Shake: "Why is anything anything? That's the style now...In LA...where my agent lives."
Hehehe...always great laughs.
Ja!
~CL

BlueAngelGal
03-12-2002, 11:10 PM
I thought HM was really good...but it's a very downloadable episode, meaning that now I really want some downloads. An mp3 of Mr. Pants? Some avs? Maybe even downloads of the "compliments" song? *drool* Must have! :) :)

TerdFergusson
03-13-2002, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by Detra
Alot of the humour in Brendon's movies is the fact that they're so crappily made.
I totally agree with you. I think what they were aiming for in this episode is that he spends way too much time working on his movies (recall his conversation with Paula). But they should at least have the blurry static between scenes. They tried to add errors (like some of the star backgroun could be seen between scenery, but that didn't seem enough. Although I loved this episode. Sure the plot line was really bad, but this is an episode where we got to see more of the movies, an we always wanted to. The limited McGuirk material was some of he best and those two songs are some of my favorite ("Your hair looks nice. Are you losing weight? Now lick my hand and paint that crate!" "Okay" "You fell for it" "oh"). Brendon's lack of history knowledge was humorously shown.

BlueAngelGal
03-13-2002, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by TerdFergusson

The limited McGuirk material was some of he best and those two songs are some of my favorite .

I agree, and it was neat that McGuirk was actually sorta likeable in this ep. -- "excuse me for caring," he says to Brendan, makes you almost go "aww" :). He tried to help...but unfortunately, his knowledge of history is limited to pop culture mixed with alcohol (hence his knowledge of Samuel Adams :) ).