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zoombie
08-04-2009, 11:40 PM
Talking about the Flintstones Kids on another thread, and remember the babyfication craze of the late 80's with not only the Flintstones Kids, but Pup Named Scooby Doo as well, and later some babyfication attempts with Yogi Bear, did HB ever think of doing a babyfication Jetsons series?

How close did they come, of doing a series with George, Jane, Spacely, and the other adult characters on the Jetsons as kids? Maybe even a babyfication version of Astro, though he was a puppy when he first appeared on the Jetsons. Just like they did with Mr Slate on FK, Henry would probably magicly be the same age of George and friends.

I am glad they didn't, besides unlike the Flintstones and Scooby Doo, a babyfication Jetsons would eleminate half of the main characters. The Jetsons without Judy and Elroy, just wouldn't be the Jetsons.

Off topic, I recall an episode of the 80's series, which had a flashback of George, Spacely, and Cogswell as children, am I imagining things? I defentely recall an episode with that. Or was it some device that turned them into children?

Blackstar
08-05-2009, 09:03 AM
I'm also glad this didn't happen. A Jetsons Kids series would've been a failure all across the board.

For one thing, as was noted above, in order for any Jetsons project to be called a Jetsons project, all 4 principle characters would be needed: George, Jane, Judy and Elroy. A Jetsons Kids show would automatically mean no Elroy or Judy, so it technically wouldn't be The Jetsons. It would just be George, Jane, possibly Astro, Spacely and maybe Cogswell, and a bunch of OC's.

Add to that the fact that George and Jane Jetson are, let's face it: pretty bland characters. They're nowhere nerar as interesting or dynamic as Fred and Wilma Flintstone. And without the 'boss' angle, Spacely would lose his character; both he and Cogswell are older than George, so they wouldn't be George's peers, and Spacely's character wouldn't work if he wasn't lording over George.

A Jetsons Kids show just wouldn't be a good idea, no matter how you slice it.

hobbyfan
08-05-2009, 09:10 AM
I think the whole premise of de-aging characters jumped the shark with the failure of Yo! Yogi! (1991). Baby Looney Tunes was the last one to try to establish some sort of time frame to show established characters as children, and that famously bombed also.

Looneytunes
08-05-2009, 02:47 PM
Despite Elroy and Judy, they still could have done it. After all, "the Flintstones Kids" did not have Pebbles or Bamm Bamm, did it?

Looneytunes/Disneytoons

zoombie
08-05-2009, 03:08 PM
Despite Elroy and Judy, they still could have done it. After all, "the Flintstones Kids" did not have Pebbles or Bamm Bamm, did it?

Looneytunes/Disneytoons

That is different, Pebbles and Bamm Bamm as well as Scrappy Doo in the case of Pup Named Scooby Doo were not essential main characters to their shows? There was a Flintstones before them, they are mere supporting characters that were added on to already estalished series, Pebbles and Bamm Bamm were what I call bonus characters, it is nice if they are there, but you can do without them. Elroy and Judy was there from the beginning, and their absense would be felt more.

It would be more like doing a Flintstones series without Barney and Betty.

Blackstar
08-05-2009, 05:14 PM
Despite Elroy and Judy, they still could have done it.

...And the series still would have failed. Judy and Elroy were among the core group of characters on the show, and The Jetsons didn't have any significant friend or neighbor characters who could pick up the slack in the kids' absence.


After all, "the Flintstones Kids" did not have Pebbles or Bamm Bamm, did it?The key difference being that The Flintstones ran for about 3 years before Pebbles was added, and Bamm-Bamm didn't arrive until a season after that. Judy and Elroy, by contrast, were part of The Jetsons since it's very beginning, and their absences would have been felt much more than those of Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm. The Flintstones could survive without Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm, as long as it still has it's core players: Fred, Barney, Wilma and Betty.

zoombie
08-05-2009, 06:03 PM
...And the series still would have failed. Judy and Elroy were among the core group of characters on the show, and The Jetsons didn't have any significant friend or neighbor characters who could pick up the slack in the kids' absence.


The key difference being that The Flintstones ran for about 3 years before Pebbles was added, and Bamm-Bamm didn't arrive until a season after that. Judy and Elroy, by contrast, were part of The Jetsons since it's very beginning, and their absences would have been felt much more than those of Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm. The Flintstones could survive without Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm, as long as it still has it's core players: Fred, Barney, Wilma and Betty.

I agree, that is basicly what I said previosly, so we are on the same page of thinking.

Anyway I think I know the episode that had George and Spacely as children. I believe it was the Christmas Carol episode, when the ghost of christmas past showed Spacely his childhood. Though for some reason I remember Cogswell was turned into a little kid in an episode.

Dr.Pepper
08-05-2009, 07:14 PM
I can clearly see why they didn't make this one, but when I was younger I always wondered why there was a Jetsons kids.

Rick Jones
08-05-2009, 07:43 PM
As a kid, I used to think about it but I knew there was no way it would work. The Jetsons really didn't have enough regular adult characters to babify. Now that I think about it, I guess Rosie and Astro would have been able to fit into the format but without Judy and Elroy it's not the Jetsons. If anything, I could picture an Elroy Jetson spinoff that was more youth oriented than the family sitcom format of the Jetsons.

zoombie
08-05-2009, 07:52 PM
Another thing, the premese of the Jetsons is to be in the distant future, a babyfication series would move it closer to the present, if anything a more likely show that takes place further into the future, with George and Jane being older, Judy as adult and Elroy as either an adult or teenager, that is more likely to work in a Jetsons series taking place in a different time period.

The Jetsons you want to move as forward as possible, and not good back in time. The Flintstones of course was the opposite. The further back in time you went, the more it worked towards its concept.

Zen Man
08-05-2009, 08:49 PM
As a kid, I used to think about it but I knew there was no way it would work. The Jetsons really didn't have enough regular adult characters to babify. Now that I think about it, I guess Rosie and Astro would have been able to fit into the format but without Judy and Elroy it's not the Jetsons. If anything, I could picture an Elroy Jetson spinoff that was more youth oriented than the family sitcom format of the Jetsons.

There was actually a proposed Jetsons spinoff centering around Elroy, Judy, and Astro. I forgot where I saw it; but the sketches depicted a teenaged Elroy, Judy, presumably in her 20's, as a reporter and an older Astro.

zoombie
08-05-2009, 09:16 PM
There was actually a proposed Jetsons spinoff centering around Elroy, Judy, and Astro. I forgot where I saw it; but the sketches depicted a teenaged Elroy, Judy, presumably in her 20's, as a reporter and an older Astro.

Sounds like from the premise, this proposed spinoff would have been similar to Pebbles, Dino, and Bamm Bamm segment from the Flintstones Comedy Show, in which they would solve mysteries.

Atoon
08-05-2009, 11:30 PM
There was actually a proposed Jetsons spinoff centering around Elroy, Judy, and Astro. I forgot where I saw it; but the sketches depicted a teenaged Elroy, Judy, presumably in her 20's, as a reporter and an older Astro.
Not sure if related but still.
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4914/jetsonspresent.jpg

http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2007_02_28.html#013028

zoombie
08-05-2009, 11:39 PM
Not sure if related but still.
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4914/jetsonspresent.jpg

http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2007_02_28.html#013028

I don't know who that boy is suppose to be. According to the link, they weren't sure who they wanted him to be, weather it was an older Elroy or an OC, but he looks like Fred Jones.

Steve Carras
08-06-2009, 12:31 AM
There was actually a proposed Jetsons spinoff centering around Elroy, Judy, and Astro. I forgot where I saw it; but the sketches depicted a teenaged Elroy, Judy, presumably in her 20's, as a reporter and an older Astro.


AnimationNation.com had a thread that mentioned that as one of the reasons along with the Partiridge Family being planned for the Partridges to be in outer space...the topic? The Partridge Family. [AnimationNation, totally unassociated with Toonzone, Scott Shaw![sic] modern day comedy writer, made the comment.].

Boy, they'll mutate ANYTHING for a show, won't they?:D

Steve Carras
08-06-2009, 12:39 AM
I don't know who that boy is suppose to be. According to the link, they weren't sure who they wanted him to be, weather it was an older Elroy or an OC, but he looks like Fred Jones.


I just clicked the link. He does look like Freddy Jones..:) BTW that nephew of Astro's looks like Boo Boo. Surpisingly no mention of its supposed semi-evulotion into the Partidges in space, while the Jetsons characters were spared the aging [Judy is mid-teen in the originaL and ten yrs. would be added, making her mid-20s!][And I like the comment that Makr Evanier posted on that blog of his, "The Freudian possiblities were endless"!]

Steve Carras
08-06-2009, 12:45 AM
I'm also glad this didn't happen. A Jetsons Kids series would've been a failure all across the board.

For one thing, as was noted above, in order for any Jetsons project to be called a Jetsons project, all 4 principle characters would be needed: George, Jane, Judy and Elroy. A Jetsons Kids show would automatically mean no Elroy or Judy, so it technically wouldn't be The Jetsons. It would just be George, Jane, possibly Astro, Spacely and maybe Cogswell, and a bunch of OC's.


Astro came along when the show was just starting....and given the lack of logic in TV in general, who's to say that the Jetsos babies with all four main characters at least wouldn't work? The Flinstone kids had one thing against it...the Flinstones & Rubbles never met till they were younger adults..Otherwise I concur with everyone..

Tobias
08-06-2009, 02:37 AM
Astro came along when the show was just starting....and given the lack of logic in TV in general, who's to say that the Jetsos babies with all four main characters at least wouldn't work? The Flinstone kids had one thing against it...the Flinstones & Rubbles never met till they were younger adults..Otherwise I concur with everyone..

:eek: What kind of activities are you suggesting Li'l George & Jane are up to that would allow Elroy and Judy to be apart of such a show? Even by cartoon laws of physics, that'd be a heck of a stretch of logic.

Zen Man
08-06-2009, 08:50 AM
Not sure if related but still.
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4914/jetsonspresent.jpg

http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2007_02_28.html#013028

Yup, that's the same sketch I saw.

hobbyfan
08-06-2009, 09:16 AM
There was actually a proposed Jetsons spinoff centering around Elroy, Judy, and Astro. I forgot where I saw it; but the sketches depicted a teenaged Elroy, Judy, presumably in her 20's, as a reporter and an older Astro.

I've read something to that effect. It eventually evolved into Partridge Family 2200 AD for some reason. Not as if they didn't already flood the schedule with Scooby clones.......

Steve Carras
08-08-2009, 03:19 AM
:eek: What kind of activities are you suggesting Li'l George & Jane are up to that would allow Elroy and Judy to be apart of such a show? .

Well, rest assured that none of MY ideas..would be impossible for ME to imagine, but you know how the networks are...