C&C - "G.I. Joe Resolute" [4/25]

[Mugen]

Well, its been a while, but have an action movie airing on AS. This time, its G.I. Joe Resolute, a 90 minute DTV movie that will be making its world television debut tonight. Described as a "more mature" take on the series, there will be actual violence to soldiers and they will stay dead. So, watch tonight at midnight and see if you like this new take on the franchise.

[clipeuh]

This time, its G.I. Joe Resolute, a 90 minute DTV movie that will be making its world television debut tonight.

Actually it aired yesterday on Teletoon, so it's not really a world television debut...

It was pretty good :anime:

[LordTerminal]

This is supposed to be on Adult Swim Video after it airs on TV right? Maybe I'll catch then. Don't get me wrong. I'm kinda interested in this. Problem is, I have a hard time staying up past 1AM.

[Kitschensyngk]

All together now...
COBRA! RETREEEEEEEAT!!!

The G.I. Joes are back, and this time they can actually hit the broad side of a barn.

And the first scene is of a bloody corpse. Hoo boy.

Ohh, Stephen Jay as Duke! This oughta be fun. :)

Sounds like Cobra Commander finally went through puberty.

[Vyse]

Wow. Cobra's not playing around. At least it was Moscow.

[Kitschensyngk]

"Where's his grenade belt?"

Hup. Found it.

Shouldn't they have put those fires out by now?

[{Shadow}]

This is supposed to be on Adult Swim Video after it airs on TV right? Maybe I'll catch then. Don't get me wrong. I'm kinda interested in this. Problem is, I have a hard time staying up past 1AM.
The first 10 parts are already up on ASV. The final part should be on there by Wednesday, so you'll be able to watch the whole thing then.

[Kitschensyngk]

Not bad design work...considering it's from the people who make Metalocalypse.

[warnerbroman]

Actually it aired yesterday on Teletoon, so it's not really a world television debut...

Canada dose not count

[Vyse]

"Greatest threat Cobra has ever produced," Duke? Because they finally gained the cajonnes (sp?) to kill people for once on an animated project?

Either way, this is good. Flint (my favorite Joe) sounds good, but I love Duke's voice.

[Kitschensyngk]

Cobra Commander just said "crap". He is not screwing around this time.

Ladies and gentlemen...The Baroness 2.0.

Destro's been working out.

[Paul_Cousins]

"Greatest threat Cobra has ever produced," Duke? Because they finally gained the cajonnes (sp?) to kill people for once on an animated project?

Either way, this is good. Flint (my favorite Joe) sounds good, but I love Duke's voice.Try 10 million.

And Cobra Command stated he cut Major Blood's heart in half in front of his men.

Cobra has finally reached the Not so Harmless (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NotSoHarmless) category. :evil:

What Genndy Tartakovsky did for Star Wars, Warren Ellis is doing for GI Joe and it ROCKS!!! :cool:

[animePWNS]

Nice take on the series so far.

I'm guessing that's how Snake Eyes lost his voice (at least in this version).

And of course, no G.I. Joe story would be complete without Snake Eyes vs. Storm Shadow...:)

[FlyByNite77]

Man just how many characters in this thing is Blum voicing? I'm half-expecting Lady Jaye to show up and him to be using his leeron voice from Gurren Lagann as her :anime:

[Kitschensyngk]

Hey! A Joe just shot at someone! ...and didn't miss! ...and with live ammunition!

Just a regular date for Duke and Scarlett.

Ladies and gentlemen...Zartan.

Do Joes hire redshirts now?

OT: When was the last time they ran a Saturday ad? And did they get Moribito back or something?

[animePWNS]

Man just how many characters in this thing is Blum voicing? I'm half-expecting Lady Jaye to show up and him to be using his leeron voice from Gurren Lagann as her :anime:

According to this Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gi_joe_resolute) (which is very small and doesn't even give a short summary), there are four listed voice actors doing around five voices each. Could be more, though.

Uh, no anime from 1-1:30a tonight, AS, Joe's still on. Speaking of which, I wonder if Gode Geass will get a final episodes promo like FMA? Maybe that's asking too much.

[Vyse]

Looks like Cobra's health and life insurance companies are going to love today. You know, with the Joes killing all those blueshirts, the Cobra equivalency of redshirts.

[animePWNS]

Let's see, G.I. Joe franchise still rocks. Alvin and the Chipmunks? Not so much now...:sad:

[RedNinja84]

:eek: I can't believe I just saw Roadblock mow 20 people down with a real gun.

[Kitschensyngk]

Sensei always liked you best!!!!

[Paul_Cousins]

Stormshadow to Snake Eyes, "So many years. So many fights. So. Much. Hatred."

This movie is pure awesome! :cool:

Their fight is brutal.

[johnny139]

You know, for one of the most AMERICA YEAH shows out there, G.I. Joe really tends to put a lot of focus on the incredibly Japanese ninja subplots.

Just sayin'. :p

[animePWNS]

Sword through the hand?!:eek: That's gotta hurt.

[Kitschensyngk]

No such thing good student. Only good teacher.

WINNER: SNAKE EYES. FATALITY.

[FlyByNite77]

The more things change the more they stay the same... Cobra still can't shoot for uh yea

[NelStone]

My headphones are on and I'm hardly watching, but what I saw of that sword fight just now was pretty badass.

[animePWNS]

No such thing good student. Only good teacher.

WINNER: SNAKE EYES. FATALITY.

And a bloodless one. Where's the fun in executing that?

[Kitschensyngk]

Snake Eyes and Zartan should get together sometime. :rolleyes:

*bang*

Oh. Never mind.

Better get Duke some medical attention before he "goes into a coma".

KISS HER YOU BLOCKHEAD!

[warnerbroman]

hearing grey cuss twice in a row (she said once in two peisode of HB) is still weird

[Vyse]

Who's keeping track of the kill count here? I know we're at over 10 million dead, but I want the specifics! Also, Scarlett's a tease.

And, those gun scenes in the base rule.

[Paul_Cousins]

You know, for one of the most AMERICA YEAH shows out there, G.I. Joe really tends to put a lot of focus on the incredibly Japanese ninja subplots.

Just sayin'. :pActually, the original GI Joe comic, "silent" (no dialog) issue fight between Snake Eyes and Stormshadow is credited as creating the "ninja" entertainment crazy.

[FlyByNite77]

Scarlet shoulda went with Snake Eyes... After reading wikipedia on the comic history of GI Joe they were the couple, only the old cartoon got Duke and Scarlett together... and maybe it's because I was never into the X-men until after I watched GI Joe as a kid looking back and now seeing the couple I just keep seeing Cyclops/Jean Grey... Another couple which just completely irritates me.

[Kitschensyngk]

hearing grey cuss twice in a row (she said once in two peisode of HB) is still weird

And Grey DeLisle voiced Frankie Foster with that mouth?

"He probably made the Baroness' undies out of plastic explosives!"
There's something to think about.

And Tunnel Rat becomes the first guy in this film to deploy a parachute.

"WE KILL COBRA COMMANDER!"
Now there's something he's never considered before.

[FlyByNite77]

OMG. Cobra Commander has teamed up with Montgomery Burns? :anime:

[Kitschensyngk]

Err...WHICH Springfield?! Missouri? Illinois? Ohio? Wherever The Simpsons takes place?

Whoa. A Charlie Adler character just killed a Stephen Jay Blum character.

[John Dorian]

Duke, if you see The Simpsons in Springfield, tell them I said hi.


Man. I miss Charliie Adler's voice.

[Vyse]

OMG. Cobra Commander has teamed up with Montgomery Burns? :anime:
I can't believe that, until I saw the "Springfield, USA" line on-screen. C'mon. Just say it's Missouri. We don't mind.

Also, the main Cobra base is underneath a generic Wal-Mart. Evil synergy.

[Kitschensyngk]

THANK YOU JOES. I hate Wal-Mart.

Snake Eyes friggin ROCKS.

[animePWNS]

Man. I miss Charlie Adler's voice.

He's also the voice of Starscream in the Transformers movie. Reminds me of the old days when both characters had the same voice too (the late Chris Latta, BTW).

[John Dorian]

[quote=Kitschensyngk;3232415]And Grey DeLisle voiced Frankie Foster with that mouth?[quote]

There are other woman voice actors who said the dirty words (Tara Strong, Cree Summer, Kath Soucie)

[Kitschensyngk]

There are other woman voice actors who said the dirty words (Tara Strong, Cree Summer, Kath Soucie)

I know. Just being funny. ;)

Duke's girlfriend isn't the only thing Scarlett in this movie.

[John Dorian]

Cobra: K.I.A.

Rest in peace.

[Kitschensyngk]

Cobra is dead. Nothing left to do now but rebuild Moscow.

[FlyByNite77]

That ending was a wee-bit on the anti-climatic side.

[warnerbroman]

"curse you G.I joe!!!"



who is G.I Joe anyway?

[Paul_Cousins]

Cobra is dead. Nothing left to do now but rebuild Moscow.Actually, he shield room was "absent". Leaving the door open to a sequel.

All in all, GI Joe Resolute was VERY GOOD. Ten out of ten stars. It lived up to the AS ad hype and then some.

[animePWNS]

That's it? We've still got some extra time left 'til Geass.

Next week, new Bleach returns, a Geass rerun, and a new Geass (can't wait!).

[johnny139]

That's it?

*scratches head*

Alrighty then.

It seemed to me like Cobra escaped... somehow. Maybe his little super booth thing, like, shot out into an escape pod or something. Oh come on! It totally makes sense. Vaguely. :p

Not bad overall. Kinda disjointed, to be honest, but it delivered some good action and the plot was engaging. I'd love to see more!

[Kitschensyngk]

Only four voice actors?

Ed Bighead, Mandy, Spike Spiegel and Adult Party Cartoon Stimpy?

[Vyse]

4 listed voice actors. Plus, "Joaquin Dos Santos Approved" and "Created by Titmouse" for that gratuitous amount of stylized, no-nonsense action...GUARANTEED!

Anti-climatic ending was anti-climatic. Who thinks Cobra Commander survived?
EDIT: Nevermind. Still good, though. 8.5/10, maybe higher if I paid attention more.

Back to Sportscenter. I'll be back next week for new Bleach, then abandon y'all for SC.

[JTurner954]

For TV-14, this was pretty intense. Definitely not the version I grew up with in the 80's. I really liked the character designs, especially "druid Zartan". One question though: Why were Destro's eyes green?

I could have done without the constant text telling us where they were, especially when it's the same place. Other than that, I was pleased with this. Best thing to air on Adult Swim this year so far.

Summary: B

[kid rabbit]

had my doubts after stigma 6 but the anime style works this time

[Rick Jones]

I think I've waited for something hard hitting from the Joe franchise for years. Well honestly, I've just been waiting for something halfway good. In 60 minutes, they've made up for my years of abuse.

It's so odd that we get good american adult action animation nowadays.

[FortressMaximus]

I feel the same way. It just...ended. No note of the fallen heroes on the Joe side or if they were rebuilding Moscov (I know some things are 'for sure' but still, they had a few minutes left they could have provided a better wrap up and such)

My main disappoitment? No 'YO JOE!"

Being darker, edgy and more adult is fine...hell, it's about the Military! But having a GI Joe cartoon, no matter the form, and not a single rallying cry of YO JOE just seems...wrong.





That's it?




*scratches head*

Alrighty then.

It seemed to me like Cobra escaped... somehow. Maybe his little super booth thing, like, shot out into an escape pod or something. Oh come on! It totally makes sense. Vaguely. :p

Not bad overall. Kinda disjointed, to be honest, but it delivered some good action and the plot was engaging. I'd love to see more!

[PickHut]

That was mostly boring as hell.

I almost drifted off at the start when all they did was talk and investigate. I know every show or movie has to build up to something, but they were sure taking their time. And it wasn't even interesting or cool to sit through, too. It was just generic.

When they finally got somewhere... it was a train wreak. Four completely different things were going on at the same, and it showed. Because of that, the pacing was really off and disjointed, completely throwing me out of the mood at times. Shoot, I forgot all about the guy in space until they bothered to go back to him in the end. It comes as no surprise that the main highlight was at the end, when they were actually concentrating on one location for more than 2 minutes. Another highlight was when Snake Eyes fought the other guy who's name escapes me at the moment. They could have sped up their back stories, as I felt they were going at it pretty slowly for filler. I wasn't too thrilled about Cobra Commander's lack of screen time, though, only showing up at the beginning and end. It just ended up making him come off as some generic bad guy. The voice wasn't helping, either.

Overall, the whole thing came off really generic.

[Freedom Fighter]

So this is what happens when G.I. Joe's made more realistic, huh? Truth be told, not bad at all.

The body count was eerily impressive, though somewhat surprisingly I was more shocked by the tons of nameless Cobra grunts that were killed than the 10 million citizens of Moscow all being killed in one humongous blast. The nameless good guys weren't completely immune... see the two who went up with Tunnel Rat, for instance.

Favorite moments: Snake Eyes vs. Storm Shadow, the badass Cobra Commander (up until Duke outwitted him in the end), Duke taking out Zartan to save Scarlett (and the accompanying banter between the two about escaping or not).

They did this with only four voice actors? Okay, granted, four experienced veteran VAs, but wow... a little cheap there, guys.

I agree this was a little disjointed, and I still think the envelope could've been pushed a little bit more in terms of violence without getting too excessive. Still, glad to finally get the rugged toughness to go with the heroic patriotism that's always come with G.I. Joe.

G.I. Joe Resolute - 4/5.

[Paul_Cousins]

That was mostly boring as hell.That movie was boring to you... :eek:

What do you consider exciting? :sad:

[PickHut]

What do you consider exciting?
Something more exciting than this (yeesh, no matter how I reword this sentence, it still sounds rude). The biggest thing this movie had going for it with viewers was that it had G.I. Joe characters in it. Remove the fan service, and you got something pretty basic.

[MetroSparkster]

My main disappoitment? No 'YO JOE!"


Forget that! What about no "COBRAAA!'?

[wayne]

all i can say is wow. i have always been a Joe fan.

[ajac]

Who all wants an adult swim transformers based on g1 now? COME ON LETS SEE THOSE HANDS YOOOOO JO!!!!

[macattack]

I can't believe that, until I saw the "Springfield, USA" line on-screen. C'mon. Just say it's Missouri. We don't mind.

Also, the main Cobra base is underneath a generic Wal-Mart. Evil synergy.

My money's on Springfield Illinois, aka Blago-ville.

[g-whiz]

the lack of voice actors kinda killed it for me. steven is great but he can only do so much. is there a reason behind the small voice cast? it looked nice and had good action sequnces but the writing was a so-so for my taste. ya all those people dyin was a shock. i remeber when i watched old eps of gi joe and see no one dying, but they set the tone pretty fast in this. is it me or has the snake eyes and shadow storm rivalry been hyped a lot in some of the gi joe shows and movies in the past few years? was it like that in the original series?

in the end i give it a 7 out of 10

[Paul_Cousins]

I found the GI Joe Resolute movie to be the logical next step in character developement (Duke and Scarlet acting like couple, the finality of Snake Eyes and Stormshadow's rivalary), (violent and more mature undertones of content) and plot (Cobra actually killing and destroying cities) that the original 80's GI Joe series was not allowed to do.

Also, whomever thought up Cobra's particle cannon for the plot in the movie and how it works is by bouncing the energy beam against the ionosphere, did their homework. Nikola Tesla (a legend in electrical research a century ago) had a similar theory. Tvtropes considered him to be a real life mad scientist (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NikolaTesla) (and they are probably), because one the theory to what caused the The Tunguska Event (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheTunguskaEvent) is that Nikola accidently used his real life Death Ray in a similar way in the movie Cobra used it's particle cannon on Moscow. :eek:

[maczero]

who is G.I Joe anyway?I believe it's what soldiers were called during WW2 or maybe it was the Korean War. In the comics, he was the character Joe Colton who looked like the 60's Joe action figure.

One question though: Why were Destro's eyes green?Lenses built into the mask.

The nameless good guys weren't completely immune... see the two who went up with Tunnel Rat, for instance.Not sure about that. We see at least two other parachutes landing alongside Tunnel Rat's.

is it me or has the snake eyes and shadow storm rivalry been hyped a lot in some of the gi joe shows and movies in the past few years? was it like that in the original series?Nope. Oddly enough Spirit was Storm Shadow's rival in the old cartoon.
Actually, the original GI Joe comic, "silent" (no dialog) issue fight between Snake Eyes and Stormshadow is credited as creating the "ninja" entertainment crazy. As much as I enjoyed "Silent Interlude", I have a hard time believing it started the "Ninja Craze" during the 80's. Ninjas had started to seep into American pop culture during the 70's with Kung-Fu flicks and James Bond.

[Paul_Cousins]

As much as I enjoyed "Silent Interlude", I have a hard time believing it started the "Ninja Craze" during the 80's. Ninjas had started to seep into American pop culture during the 70's with Kung-Fu flicks and James Bond.The best way to put it is "Silent Interlude" brought the the ninja sub-genre into focus and lit a match under it that created a firestorm.

And two side notes. The Baroness' glasses had green HUD display, so it makes sense that Destro upgraded his mask too. And I am glad those two survive.

And I wonder what ever happened to the "Cobra Twins".

[FightingDreamer]

The ending was kinda abrupt, but overall that kicked a lot of posterior. I definitely wouldn't mind seeing more.

[warnerbroman]

There are other woman voice actors who said the dirty words (Tara Strong, Cree Summer, Kath Soucie) ture I got use to Kath and Tara(a little) but Cree just...*imagine foxxy loves voice in Abigail Lincoln's mouth*

[Supernovametalstar]

Baroness: "What are they doing?!"
Destro: "Killing themselves."
Blows up entrance.

I must say if we saw this type of Cobra in the tv series, then maybe they would have actually succeeded. I like how they had Cobra Commander justify acting like a cowardly baffoon to, as he put it "force his people to think". But now realizes that was a mistake and adopted the if you're not with me, I'll kill you philosophy.

The battle of Snake Eyes vs Stormshadow was pretty awesome and much more brutal than I could have guessed.

Nice to see that Cobra grunts still can shoot a target. There must have been at least half a dozen of them shooting at Duke and Scarlett in an open room and they didn't get hit.

I can understand the boring analysis though. I watched most of it at 12am, and I was nodding off at some points. There wasn't much pizzazz in the movie like the 80's series would have brought, but that is what happens when you have realistic depictions of military operations. A good effort though and I can only hope the live action movie coming out in the summer will be able to meld the two together well.

[soundmonkey44]

This was a very good movie, I'll deffinantly buy the DVD when it comes out.

Snake eyes fight was the best part.:D

[HEATXZ]

Awesome movie
I like the Snake Eyes Fight :anime:

[Lord Mawdryn]

Warren Ellis actually surprised me. Not with the high bodycounts--that's kind of normal for him, IMO--but with the little bit of nods towards the general G.I. Joe mythology culled from both the comic books and the original animated series (Scarlett and Snake-Eyes were a couple in the comics, but it was Scarlett and Duke in the original animated series). Ellis made Cobra Commander a total bad-ass by not only willing to kill at the slightest whim, but by acknowledging that in the past he played the bumbling idiot to encourage others in Cobra to step up to the plate.

Me likely this.
:cool:

[Beat]

As cool looking as it was, I kinda wonder what the point is. This seems like another Korgoth with a license. Great writing and animation, loved by most, no season order because Tim and Eric want to air their latest crapsterpiece.

[soundmonkey44]

As cool looking as it was, I kinda wonder what the point is. This seems like another Korgoth with a license. Great writing and animation, loved by most, no season order because Tim and Eric want to air their latest crapsterpiece.

Cobra Commander should just take em out! who wants crud like T&E when we can have awsome shows like Resolute! AS needs to fire those 2 whos so called comedy isn't even good enough for run-down new york night clubs!:evil::evil:

[macattack]

As cool looking as it was, I kinda wonder what the point is. This seems like another Korgoth with a license. Great writing and animation, loved by most, no season order because Tim and Eric want to air their latest crapsterpiece.

I have an odd feeling that CN is intending to slowly strangle AS the same way they strangled Toonami. And if AS is able to subsist the same way Toonami did then they'll just kill it outright and weather the outcry. I don't know, but the fact that the only new shows that have premiered this year are cancelled comedies is pretty telling.

Titmouse outdid themselves. There was only one shot (of Zartan) that looked like it was done Metalocalypse-style. Other than that the animation matched Madhouse's B-team, which means they did a pretty decent job animating the production. I hope Titmouse gets to do more projects like this, I could see Titmouse being "our" Madhouse if more projects like this are done. That will only be a good thing for action cartoons everywhere.

I think this movie's canon status depends solely on whether a series comes out of this. If they make a series done in this vein the movie will not be canon. If there is no series, this movie is canon.

AS said that a lot of their future plans depend on this movie doing well ratings-wise so let's hope people tuned in.

[ABrown]

Very nicely done. I guarentee this is better than the live action GI Joe movie is going to be. Between the Marvel comics pg-13 animated movies, the DC Universe pg-13 animated movies, and now this, these pg-13 animated action movies are getting big.

[Raidon Makoto]

Who all wants an adult swim transformers based on g1 now? COME ON LETS SEE THOSE HANDS YOOOOO JO!!!!
Lol, I had just thought of that. That'd kick ass.
I have an odd feeling that CN is intending to slowly strangle AS the same way they strangled Toonami. And if AS is able to subsist the same way Toonami did then they'll just kill it outright and weather the outcry. I don't know, but the fact that the only new shows that have premiered this year are cancelled comedies is pretty telling.
I don't think that you want to start anything, Mac... :P

Anyways, I loved this movie and I hope that Resolute gets a series. :D

[Michael24]

I caught the final half-hour or so last night, and man, that was . . . bad. I was definitely disappointed after hearing all the build-up for this series and seeing the preview that was shown at ComicCon last year. I didn't really care for the anime-inspired style and would have prefered a more traditional look. I also thought it seemed to be trying way to hard to take an older series known for its light-heartedness and make it "mature."

The voice acting was passable, though I didn't care for Cobra Commander's voice and--who I guess was--Cover Girl. (It was hard to tell since I think "Flint" was the only name I actually heard during those thirty minutes.) Duke and Scarlett were alright, but I really miss the voices of Michael Bell, Bill Ratner, B.J. Ward, Chris Latta, etc. They all had such distinct personalities to their voices. And like others have said, the ending was terrible. They flee, Springfield is blown up, we get a Duke mission report voice over, and that's it?

If this was to lead to a new G.I. Joe series, I probably wouldn't bother watching. I'll just stick with the original Sunbow series.

[Mugen]

AS said that a lot of their future plans depend on this movie doing well ratings-wise so let's hope people tuned in.

Actually, they meant that if the movie did well ratings-wise, they would consider turning Fridays into movie night.

[Paul_Cousins]

Here is the speech Cobra Commander gave to his men. It is a crowning moment of awesome (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfAwesome?from=Main.CrowningMomentOfAwesome) in of itself.

Cobra Commander, "And this is how I win the world. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BigBad) This juncture, of course, is usually where the wheels come off. But not this time. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GenreSavvy) Cutting the traitor Major Blood's heart in half right in front of you. Right here in this very room. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TookALevelInBadass) Should have gotten the point across. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NotSoHarmless) It suited me once to appear weak and cowardly, because it motivated you people to think. But today is a new day. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DiabolicalMastermind) There will be no moves to take over my command. There will be no mistakes. There will be none of your crap! None of it! Work with me, and I will give you the world in less than twenty-four hours. Work against me and I will gut you like a fish, right here." (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YouHaveFailedMe)

This movie turned Cobra Commander from a joke villian into a serious badass villian in his own right. :evil:

[Beat]

Reaction on the official AS board seems universally negative, unlike Korgoth. Does that mean we will see a series? Or will this be a colossal waste of money dumped in favor of some lame Britcom?

[Paul_Cousins]

Reaction on the official AS board seems universally negative, unlike Korgoth. Does that mean we will see a series? Or will this be a colossal waste of money dumped in favor of some lame Britcom?Care to post some of their quotes then, because except for a handful of people here, the reaction here on this forum thread seems to be universally positive for GI Joe Resolute.

Let's see what the ratings and dvd sales for GI Joe Resolute are before the jury concludes.

[Beat]

Care to post some of their quotes then, because except for a handful of people here, the reaction here on this forum thread seems to be universally positive for GI Joe Resolute.

Let's see what the ratings and dvd sales for GI Joe Resolute are before the jury concludes.

Most of it is the "get anime off my Adult swim now!" talk that hits every last discussion.

Face it, Adult Swim and action are incompatible.

[macattack]

Most of it is the "get anime off my Adult swim now!" talk that hits every last discussion.

Face it, Adult Swim and action are incompatible.

The hilarious part is that it isn't Japanese-animated.

[Tobias]

Outside of killing off some major characters (I'd have loved to see more of Zartan if they did more of these), I loved this. I hope they do the upcoming live actionmovie half as much justice as they did here.

[Dark Moridin]

Well, being that I was a kid when the original series came out (the hovercraft toy kicked *****), I would have to say this was a nice bit of brain candy. For those who are asking for a series of this, it would be a very limited mini series, as people dieing left and right would run thru the whole gambit of characters pretty quick, (loved Corbra Commander's insand trigger finger with that blade of his.)
Still, other than Bazooka being killed, any of the other named Joe's get killed? And how is it that those two Joes who got knocked off that satellite thing so long before the last one parachutes off, and yet they are all seen paracuting at the SAME TIME at the end?
Loved the Baroness and Destro update. I mean, it makes sense that a headshot won't kill him (not like the earlier blue shirts, brain guts for the win!!) the part about the undies, and their love....for killing hostages. Very nice.
As much as I liked the Snake Eyes/ Stormshadow battle, two things that were a little below par. One, actually killing a cool character like Stormshadow would make a sequel to this a little boring, and the same blow killing Stormshadow just knocked Snake Eyes back against a wall. How was that the Seventh Step if they both knew the same move??

Oh, and Snake Eyes killing all the Blue Shirts in the walmart parking lot with only his short blade? How did he not win the war by himself already?
All together now...
COBRA! RETREEEEEEEAT!!!

The G.I. Joes are back, and this time they can actually hit the broad side of a barn.

And the first scene is of a bloody corpse. Hoo boy.

Ohh, Stephen Jay as Duke! This oughta be fun. :)

Sounds like Cobra Commander finally went through puberty.
Not only hit the broad side of a barn, but put a few holes in a few melons (*cue Dominic Santiago's famous line, "SUP B!+<#&$!!!!).

:eek: I can't believe I just saw Roadblock mow 20 people down with a real gun.
Not just mow them down, but an evil smile while shooting them IN THE BACKS!!!!! Very Malicious

[Beat]

The hilarious part is that it isn't Japanese-animated.

True, but it's an action cartoon and according to ASMB, one action cartoon is one too many.

So I again ask, what was the point of commissioning this? As a movie tie-in? No one will see it. As a pilot for a new Joe series? Adult Swim will sooner get Tim and Eric's latest piece of unfunny drivel or a cheap acquisition over something that would cost time, money, and resources to animate for their forgotten night. As a way to bring in more action? AS is phasing out action, not bringing more in.

Of all of Adult Swim's decisions so far this year, this is the most quizzical. You could see the logic in all their decisions, from getting KOTH, to filling up space with zero cost Britcoms, but this, this makes no sense.

[Tobias]

Well, technically, AS only aquired this movie. They didn't pay a dime to have it animated or produced, so there's really no big loss. It was like airing 'The Room' on April Fool's Day or 'Saved By The Bell' and 'Pee-Wee's Playhouse'.

AS is going to aquire and air whatever they want as long as they can afford it. If another mini series/movie were produced, AS would probably end up airing that as well.

[Master Moron]

Actually, they meant that if the movie did well ratings-wise, they would consider turning Fridays into movie night.

But, what type of movies would they air? Didn't they already say they wouldn't air anime movies? Do we really need to see more Marvel and DC movies? I'd hate to see Fridays turned into Action Flicks 2.

Most of it is the "get anime off my Adult swim now!" talk that hits every last discussion.

Face it, Adult Swim and action are incompatible.

But, wouldn't they be airing anime in this slot anyway? Well, I guess Clone Wars normally airs at midnight. Don't tell me they're upset that Clone Wars isn't on?

Well, being that I was a kid when the original series came out (the hovercraft toy kicked *****), I would have to say this was a nice bit of brain candy. For those who are asking for a series of this, it would be a very limited mini series, as people dieing left and right would run thru the whole gambit of characters pretty quick, (loved Corbra Commander's insand trigger finger with that blade of his.)
Still, other than Bazooka being killed, any of the other named Joe's get killed? And how is it that those two Joes who got knocked off that satellite thing so long before the last one parachutes off, and yet they are all seen paracuting at the SAME TIME at the end?
Loved the Baroness and Destro update. I mean, it makes sense that a headshot won't kill him (not like the earlier blue shirts, brain guts for the win!!) the part about the undies, and their love....for killing hostages. Very nice.
As much as I liked the Snake Eyes/ Stormshadow battle, two things that were a little below par. One, actually killing a cool character like Stormshadow would make a sequel to this a little boring, and the same blow killing Stormshadow just knocked Snake Eyes back against a wall. How was that the Seventh Step if they both knew the same move??


Stormshadow didn't know the Seventh Step. He only knew up till the Sixth Step.

[Wolf Boy2]

Err...WHICH Springfield?! Missouri? Illinois? Ohio? Wherever The Simpsons takes place?
C'mon y'all, everyone knows it's Springfield, Virginia. ;)

[Rick Jones]

So I again ask, what was the point of commissioning this? As a movie tie-in? No one will see it. As a pilot for a new Joe series? Adult Swim will sooner get Tim and Eric's latest piece of unfunny drivel or a cheap acquisition over something that would cost time, money, and resources to animate for their forgotten night. As a way to bring in more action? AS is phasing out action, not bringing more in.
I think Hasbro created it to help get older fans interested in the Resolute toyline or to help keep the hype for the live-action flick, and the franchise in general, going or something else.

Whatever reason it was, I'm sure not mad that they did.

[Dark Moridin]

Stormshadow didn't know the Seventh Step. He only knew up till the Sixth Step.
My point was it was the same hand gesture/move that was used by both, while it was the 6th move for Stormshadow, it was the 7th for Snake Eyes. A semi-closed palm to the forehead.

I think Hasbro created it to help get older fans interested in the Resolute toyline or to help keep the hype for the live-action flick, and the franchise in general, going or something else.

Whatever reason it was, I'm sure not mad that they did.
It would make sense that this was commisioned by Hasbro as a pack in DVD of some sort, and with the movie coming out, probably made buisness sense to Hasbro. This while also showing it on the most likely TV channel (one that would air an mature cartoon that most americans would have) also probably meant AS got a nice deal on it, lol.
Either way, anything that prolongs anime on AS should be applauded (that is, unless you don't like anime, then boo and hiss;))

[Captain Highwind]

Oh Cobra Commander, I had forgotten why you used to make me laugh. I saw the lock incident coming a mile away, which made it all the more enjoyable to watch when he kept thinking it wasn't going to work for Duke. And then Duke just walks away. Hilarious.

And what was up with Springfield USA? Although hiding in the Simpson's hometown would make sense for a secret headquarters, since it moves around on a regular basis so it can't be pinpointed.

[GWOtaku]

True, but it's an action cartoon and according to ASMB, one action cartoon is one too many.

So I again ask, what was the point of commissioning this? As a movie tie-in? No one will see it. As a pilot for a new Joe series? Adult Swim will sooner get Tim and Eric's latest piece of unfunny drivel or a cheap acquisition over something that would cost time, money, and resources to animate for their forgotten night. As a way to bring in more action? AS is phasing out action, not bringing more in.

Of all of Adult Swim's decisions so far this year, this is the most quizzical. You could see the logic in all their decisions, from getting KOTH, to filling up space with zero cost Britcoms, but this, this makes no sense.

Well, this could be taken as an attempt to actually do something relevant with action again. Hardly the hallmark of a revival, but still. That, or there was a hope that they could cash in on adult nostalgia--the most likely possibility in my book. The movie has to be a part of the reason, I'd think.

I have no idea how much Williams Street listens to the ASMB, but if the ratings were positive I can't see the negative opinions over there counting for much.

[Beat]

In the comics, the town of Springfield was actually Cobra's base of operations in the US. The whole citizenry worked for Cobra in some way.

[spidl]

Overall I enjoyed the movie. I thought the beginning was a little stronger than the end, I would have liked a bigger fight to end the movie. Outside of the Scarlett/Duke relationship I thought they did a good mix of bringing in the comic and the old cartoon into an interesting updated mix.

[macattack]

In case anyone's curious who handled the music: it was Stephen Barton, who composed the music for Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare.

Yeah, the producers of Resolute definitely meant business.

[email2003]

C'mon y'all, everyone knows it's Springfield, Virginia. ;)
What's so special about Springfield in G.I. Joe? Didn't they have a 2 part episode of Springfield in the original G.I. Joe series?

Also can anyone name all the Joes and Corba characters that were in this movie?

G.I. Joe:

Duke
Snake Eyes
Scarlett
Flint
Road Block
Rip Cord
Gun or Gung-Ho?
Beach Head
Tunnel Rat
Bazooka - (Dead)

Corba:
Cobra Commander
Destro
Barroness
Storm Shadow
Zartan
Major Blood - (Wasn't he the dead guy in the start of the movie?)

[ABrown]

Also can anyone name all the Joes and Corba characters that were in this movie?

Did I hear the girl claim that her name was "Dialtone"??? I thought that was what I heard her identify herself as.

Was there a female in the comics who went by Dialtone? I'm only familiar with the male Dialtone character from the original series.

[Beefy]

I spy Engrish.
-Tunnel Rat uses a pcwer surge to overload the stratellites.
-According to the credits, Steve Blum voices a character called Dune, not Duke.

Overall I was quite pleased with this movie.
Early on I said to myself it would be pretty stupid of Cobra to have only one particle cannon. Turns out they did have a backup. Good planning.

I haven't read any of the comics. Was Snake Eyes being silent the result of an injury or did he just take a vow of silence as a ninja? I liked how this movie explained it.

Finally a G.I. Joe that has people dying and some actually competent characters.

[spidl]

Did I hear the girl claim that her name was "Dialtone"??? I thought that was what I heard her identify herself as.

Was there a female in the comics who went by Dialtone? I'm only familiar with the male Dialtone character from the original series.

The old series had male character named Dialtone. In the new IDW G.I. Joe reboot they have a female character named Dialtone. She is essentially a new character.

[spidl]

I spy Engrish.


I haven't read any of the comics. Was Snake Eyes being silent the result of an injury or did he just take a vow of silence as a ninja? I liked how this movie explained it.

In the comic he can not speak due to an accident during a mission.

[The Overlord]

I spy Engrish.
-Tunnel Rat uses a pcwer surge to overload the stratellites.
-According to the credits, Steve Blum voices a character called Dune, not Duke.

Overall I was quite pleased with this movie.
Early on I said to myself it would be pretty stupid of Cobra to have only one particle cannon. Turns out they did have a backup. Good planning.

I haven't read any of the comics. Was Snake Eyes being silent the result of an injury or did he just take a vow of silence as a ninja? I liked how this movie explained it.

Finally a G.I. Joe that has people dying and some actually competent characters.

Its not Engrish, the series was made in America. Someone is just a bad proof reader.

[Beat]

Engrish isn't necessarily made because of bad Asian translations.

[The Overlord]

Engrish isn't necessarily made because of bad Asian translations.

I'm pretty sure that's what Engrish is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engrish

Otherwise its just bad English and someone just forgot to proof read. Bad English and Engrish are two different things.

[Wolf Boy2]

What's so special about Springfield in G.I. Joe? Didn't they have a 2 part episode of Springfield in the original G.I. Joe series?
Larry Hama introduced Sprinfeild in GI Joe #11 (Marvel Comics), in 1983. The cartoon incorporated Springfeild in the 1985 season 1 finale. Both were LONG BEFORE the Simpsons premeired in 1987.

The Simpsons and GI Joe were both referencing Father Knows Best, taking a satyrical stab at the idyllic, 1950s American Dream.

Major Blood - (Wasn't he the dead guy in the start of the movie?)
Yes, he was. Scarlett even said, "Major Sebastian Bludd."

[macattack]

Somebody revived an old GI Joe Resolute thread over in General Animation and it turns out that Resolute is indeed a pilot for an animated series that is contingent on Resolute's popularity online (this was before the TV deal).

[Shawn Hopkins]

Warren Ellis did a great job with this script. He claims he had never seen a G.I. Joe before he was asked to write it. True or not, he did a good job of including elements from the old Larry Hama comics including Springfield and Snake Eyes/Storm Shadow. I'm okay with the Duke/Scarlett pairing I guess, but I liked the comic version better. He got some of his usual big concept action moments in there, like Tunnel Rat hanging off a balloon miles above the earth and Cobra's overall plan. The dialogue was mostly good except in places where it seemed to be intentionally cheesy, like some of the kung fu speeches that seemed ripped straight from the 70s.

I really liked that they included the support staff like Dialtone. That just makes sense. The G.I. Joes may be mostly jocks, but they're smart enough to keep some nerds around to do their homework for them.

Some things were weird. Did Duke actually destroy an American city and everyone in it, including people who presumably don't work for Cobra, just to get Cobra Commander? He could have fired the cannon into the ocean or a desert. Did Beachead die in that explosion with Destro and the Baroness? I didn't see him after that.

The limited blood was dumb. There should have been much less in the way of bloodless wounds. The animation style was all right with me, a little too anime and cheap looking in places but better than most action cartoons by far. It still had the reddish and blue lasers and no Cobra goon could shoot straight, even just a few feet away in an open room on full auto. All the Joes are deadeyes now, though, apparently, and they racked up an impressive nameless goon body count.

It seemed a little like starting at the end, I guess, with some of the main rivalries ending. But it could work as a pilot with a little rejiggering.

But it's still at its heart a toy commercial, and a very, very odd one because some of Warren's almost nihilistic darkness crept in around the edges in the form of thing's like the Baroness's sadism and the fact that some of the Joes now seem to be closer to kill-crazy action junkies than the paragons of virtues they used to be. I'm not sure that's what a toy company wants in a toy commercial. I'm glad they gave Ellis creative freedom to do it his way, but I figure if it goes to a series they might catch on and it will be a little more conventional.

[Kitschensyngk]

Some things were weird. Did Duke actually destroy an American city and everyone in it, including people who presumably don't work for Cobra, just to get Cobra Commander? He could have fired the cannon into the ocean or a desert. Did Beachead die in that explosion with Destro and the Baroness? I didn't see him after that.

I think that "Springfield" was a COBRA base made to look like some town in the Midwest, and that the only people in it were COBRA blueshirts.

[Paul_Cousins]

I think that "Springfield" was a COBRA base made to look like some town in the Midwest, and that the only people in it were COBRA blueshirts.I think so, given the parking lots were completely empty in the panned shots of the city right before the battle.

[soundmonkey44]

True, but it's an action cartoon and according to ASMB, one action cartoon is one too many.



...The People at ASMB our pretty much sound like, well how do I put this nicely, jerks! Get rid of anime no action cartoons! Don't tell me theres people dumb enough to like tim & eric & those other silly AS origionals more then anime & movies like resolute! Whats the world coming to! oh lord help us ALL!!!:p:sweat::sweat:

OK I overreact but seriously what are all those crazy collegekids/adults thinking!

[Ultra8]

Not the Greatest but definitely a good watch. Liked the references to the old show, toys, and comics(T.A.R.G.E.T. jet packs, Alley Vipers:D). Kind of felt like it was rushed in places, plus a bit to much of the same voice-cast but the action and fanfare made up for some of these pitfalls.
Can't say if I'll buy it or not but if they make a series or a sequel, count on it being watched.
I'm hoping for BATS and some more of the Cobra rogues like FireFly, CrocMaster, and the Twins(assuming CC didn't off them prior to the begining) for the sequal.

[rmarti3926]

Finally, a G.I. Joe animated series I've been waiting most of my lifetime for...

Real bullets, real death, Cobra Commander being a baddass and not a goofball comic relief.

I was a little disappointed about G.I. Joe not having any more casualties other than Bazooka and some crew members, and a helicopter being wiped out by a tidal wave in the beginning of the finale, but other than that this franchise starting with this series and hopefully the upcoming live-action movie has redeemed itself for the sins of its' past (i.e. several post-Sunbow animated incarnations up until now.)

Good work G.I. Joe. You deserve a medal.

P.S. First Spike Speigel, then Roger Smith, then Jamie from Megas XLR, then Wolverine, and now Duke? Steve Blum is becoming the pop culture fan's favorite voice actor. :D

[Captain Highwind]

In the comics, the town of Springfield was actually Cobra's base of operations in the US. The whole citizenry worked for Cobra in some way.

And as was pointed out before, it was Walmart all along.

So what was he complaining about again? He already had all the money... >>

[Rick Jones]

P.S. First Spike Speigel, then Roger Smith, then Jamie from Megas XLR, then Wolverine, and now Duke? Steve Blum is becoming the pop culture fan's favorite voice actor. :D
he makes for a pretty cool Green Goblin too

[macattack]

I didn't really care for the anime-inspired style and would have prefered a more traditional look. I also thought it seemed to be trying way to hard to take an older series known for its light-heartedness and make it "mature."

The voice acting was passable, though I didn't care for Cobra Commander's voice and--who I guess was--Cover Girl. (It was hard to tell since I think "Flint" was the only name I actually heard during those thirty minutes.) Duke and Scarlett were alright, but I really miss the voices of Michael Bell, Bill Ratner, B.J. Ward, Chris Latta, etc. They all had such distinct personalities to their voices. And like others have said, the ending was terrible. They flee, Springfield is blown up, we get a Duke mission report voice over, and that's it?

I think you're bringing up an interesting viewpoint here that no one else, whether here on TZ (who say "I can has moar?") and the ASMB (who say "actn toons are teh suck") has brought up. Is GI Joe truly better off this way, by becoming darker and edgier? It's been mentioned that Warren Ellis' writing for this movie got dark in places (10 million people killed at the very beginning, for example) and I think it's a legitimate question to ask whether that is something GI Joe should have? I have seen maybe 15 episodes of the original series when SVES was running it and I wasn't impressed with the 'toon, but I LOVED this because it did what all of us kids did for years with the toys: kill COBRA troops by the dozens and maybe off one or two Joes to make things "fair".

Personally, I always killed Dusty off.

The voice acting I thought was very good, conversely. Steve Blum couldn't make Ripcord and Duke sound different for the life of him but other than that I thought the voices were distinct and realistic. Cover Girl did sound a little forced and false but considering she had maybe two distinct lines at the most I'm not going to criticize Grey DeLisle's inability to go deep too much. I find the 80's VAing insufferably cheesy (especially for the women) and I don't find that a good thing. Michael Bell and company are storied VAs but I find they make good "cartoon" actors, but not good "character" actors like what was asked for here. Grey DeLisle tried to make Dial Tone, Baroness, and Scarlett sound like real women and I think she succeeded in that. And I thought Adler made his Cobra Commander a good homage to past performances but he also succeeded in giving Cobra Commander a darker twist that actually gave the guy a bit of actual menace.

Though I wouldn't have minded Bell & company getting cameos if they had been able to fit them in somewhere. Bell as General Hawk or the President?

[Rick Jones]

Bill Ratner as Flint would have blown my mind.

[FightingDreamer]

I think you're bringing up an interesting viewpoint here that no one else, whether here on TZ (who say "I can has moar?") and the ASMB (who say "actn toons are teh suck") has brought up. Is GI Joe truly better off this way, by becoming darker and edgier? It's been mentioned that Warren Ellis' writing for this movie got dark in places (10 million people killed at the very beginning, for example) and I think it's a legitimate question to ask whether that is something GI Joe should have? I have seen maybe 15 episodes of the original series when SVES was running it and I wasn't impressed with the 'toon, but I LOVED this because it did what all of us kids did for years with the toys: kill COBRA troops by the dozens and maybe off one or two Joes to make things "fair".

Personally, I always killed Dusty off.

The voice acting I thought was very good, conversely. Steve Blum couldn't make Ripcord and Duke sound different for the life of him but other than that I thought the voices were distinct and realistic. Cover Girl did sound a little forced and false but considering she had maybe two distinct lines at the most I'm not going to criticize Grey DeLisle's inability to go deep too much. I find the 80's VAing insufferably cheesy (especially for the women) and I don't find that a good thing. Michael Bell and company are storied VAs but I find they make good "cartoon" actors, but not good "character" actors like what was asked for here. Grey DeLisle tried to make Dial Tone, Baroness, and Scarlett sound like real women and I think she succeeded in that. And I thought Adler made his Cobra Commander a good homage to past performances but he also succeeded in giving Cobra Commander a darker twist that actually gave the guy a bit of actual menace.

Though I wouldn't have minded Bell & company getting cameos if they had been able to fit them in somewhere. Bell as General Hawk or the President?

I agree with pretty much everything you said here.

[Michael24]

I know the Marvel comic was decidely "more serious" compared to the cartoon, though I've never read them. I've been a fan of the original cartoon my whole life and while I can accept change, this just didn't do it for me. Like I said, I thought it just seemed to be trying too hard to be "more serious" and distance itself from the original toon. (Heck, I thought SpyTroops and Valor vs Venom were ultimately more entertaining and more Joe.)

Another problem I had is that this was merely a webseries broken up into 5 or 6-minute installments, where the pacing and story structure is going to be a lot more haphazard when you put it all together. The final half-hour that I saw just seemed to jump around like crazy and rush through everything. I imagine it might have worked better had it originally been designed as an actual movie or pilot instead.

Michael Bell and company are storied VAs but I find they make good "cartoon" actors, but not good "character" actors like what was asked for here.

I suppose one could argue that was a result of how the original cartoon was approached. I'm sure most of those guys (Bell, Ratner, Latta, Rob Paulsen, Frank Welker, etc.) could have easily handled it in a serious manner if the the material had been played more straight.

I don't know. I think there's potential there to tell a G.I. Joe story that is perhaps (for lack of a better) "more grounded" but still maintain the sense of fun and adventure that the original had. But Resolute just didn't have that for me. :(

[Captain Highwind]

Am I the only one that thinks this movie wasn't anime-inspired? Does streamline = American animation? Designs that are actually fleshed out is a breath of fresh air to me.

And for the record, Snake Eyes' decent onto the island was one of the most beautiful pieces of storyboard and animation I've seen in a while.

[Nemesis Wonder]

Am I the only one that thinks this movie wasn't anime-inspired?

Nope, I agree with you. Anime actually never came into my mind.

[AlphaPrime]

Bell could have handled a serious Duke no problem(havn't any of you played Legacy of Kain games and know of Raziel?) course he prolly wouldn't have been Duke Road Block Ripcord and Zartan heh.

[v1cious]

this was cool, but it ended way too abruptly. it needs to be a series.

[Hypestyle]

will this be an ongoing series? will they eventually release a DVD with all the shorts together as one story?

This should definitely continue.. use Joe vs. Cobra, also bring in other villains from the comics, invent new ones.. kill off some low-tier joes along the way.. (i.e., psyche-out, outback)

[kaine23]

This was good. This was darn good.

[GWOtaku]

In retrospect, my opinion of it is a bit less positive. It did a lot of things right, but it dropped off a bit toward the end since Cobra Commander turned out to be something of a joke still. I was expecting some kind of good confrontation, but instead all he does is basically seal his own defeat at the end.

I suppose the point is that tyrants are often compensating for being unstable, small, pathetic people, but I think it'd be best to just reimagine him as a sinister mastermind that at least doesn't commit really dumb mistakes. He was a 1980's villain in a current action animation adventure.